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You've got to love how Triple H no-sells the lionsault and immediately gets up to chase Earl Hebner. I wish someone would do that to the pedigree, maybe Charlie Haas can since he'll be fired anyway.

Part One of the Team 3D promo from the end of the show. Part Two of the Team 3D promo from the end of the show, includes Spike Dudley ripping up a one night only contract offer from WWE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWPCrvMWZ1U There is a full video of the chairs being thrown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V4i0yMhcGo There is a VERY short clip from the end of the main event. Crowd seemed to have love the event and there is a boatload of chairs in the ring.

A sour end to the show, but everything else really sounds great. I wonder if TNA plans to release this on DVD?

The complaints have merit. For all of the 'stars' TNA have made, who has TNA been built around? Perrenial WWF/WCW midcarder Jeff Jarrett. Who were the guys put in the top mix with him in 2005? Old WWF/WCW guys, like Nash, Page, Waltman and others. Recently, it's been guys like Sting, Steiner, with cameos by washed up WWF/WCW guys like Luger, Bagwell and Rick Steiner. Who is the NWA Champion? Christian Cage, a guy, while talented, was a perpetual midcarder in WWE and lost most of his matches. Sure, Samoa Joe, a fresh, non-WCW/WWE talent was added to the mix recently, but for most of the last 18 months the top stuff has involved guys that are either washed up and past their prime, or guys that, while talented, lackl credibility as main event stars. For TNA to be taken as something new and fresh, it would help to feature new and fresh talent in their main events, and not rely on WCW/WWE retreads. You have to find the right mix of new talent and established talent. TNA has tried to do that throughout their existance, some efforts have been successful and a few have been less than successful. Jeff Jarrett was one of the creators of the company, so of course he would want to be involved in the main event scene. For someone who has as much power as he does, I think he has handled himself alot better than other talent would. They wanted to show people what Raven was capable of and they were very successful. They wanted to show people what Christian was capable of and they were less than successful. You never know when you'll find that comeback story of a "washed-up" talent that completely turns his career around in a new environment. I also think you underrate the contributions of talent like A.J. Styles, Abyss, Monty Brown, Ron Killings, and Samoa Joe who are top-level talent in TNA and guys that TNA helped establish on a national level. Scott Steiner is setup in a feud that should put Samoa Joe over, so it isn't like he has been placed in a main event role where he dominates established TNA stars. Sting seems to be the ultimate team-player and is willing to do what is best for anyone he is put up against in the ring. When I watch a TNA broadcast, I very rarely hear talent gripe about their past employer. Internally, of course that is what they believe but TNA rarely builds a storyline around one talent who has been held back by another promotion. The talent may reference to their past, but we aren't forced to sit through 20-minute tirades about it. Also, let's not forget the hypocrite that Paul Heyman makes himself out to be with that statement. What is the ENTIRE ECW storyline built around? "I've been held back. I wasn't given an opportunity. I didn't get this. I didn't get that, and now I'm going to have it."

Anyone want to tell me what is so great about Mr. Kennedy? I thought he was supposed to be over.

The crowd seems like they REALLY missed Mr. Kennedy, did you hear that pop?

Unless you're WWE, in which case you are able to do it and every other promotion that does it is cheap.

Pretty weak complaints. TNA has made stars out of alot of talent that WWE wouldn't even consider signing. A.J. Styles is a star in TNA, he would've never been more than a cruiserweight in WWE. Christopher Daniels is a star in TNA, WWE has never shown any interest in him. Samoa Joe is a star in TNA, WWE has never shown any interest in him. Raven was a star in TNA, they actually let him work to his strengths and he proved that he could be a top-level player. Ron Killings is in the same boat, as well as Abyss. TNA has made stars out of alot of talent that WWE either didn't take seriously or even consider at all.

What the hell? That is what the ENTIRE new ECW is based off of. We haven't heard the end of the fact that Rob Van Dam would've never gotten a title shot if he hadn't won the Money In the Bank. Paul Heyman is an idiot and Vince McMahon must be having a great time pulling the strings from above.

I suppose A.J. Styles if off Paul Heyman's radar as well. The guy that TNA made a star and the guy who would've likely had never been given an opportunity to succeed if he had signed with WWE. TNA has also made it clear that they plan to push Samoa Joe and he could very well be the future of the promotion. Has anyone seen TNA's house show card for this weekend? It blows One Night Stand out of the water by a long shot.

How much would that job suck? Measure every blade of grass on the field.

I'm not sure what he expects. It isn't like WWE would ever spend the time to buildup a match between Masato Tanaka and Mike Awesome, so of course there isn't going to be much of a story around the match. Since the match was on an ECW show, ECW fans understand the history between Masato Tanaka and Mike Awesome and understand that their matches are always wars of attrition. Neither man will have a ten-minute series of moves centered around a headlock, neither man will spring off the ropes and hit 450 splashes, they just knock the shit out of each other for fifteen to twenty minutes until one of them is knocked out. It was the most entertaining match on the card and more entertaining than anything WWE could hope to produce anytime soon, so Edge really doesn't have much room to talk. All businesses are about making money and to make money you need to draw in new fans. If I'm someone flipping through the television channels and I see two oiled-up bodybuilders on the mat with one another, I'm not going to say "I have to see what this is about." If I'm flipping through the teleivision channels and I see two guys demolishing one another with steel chairs and throwing each other through tables, I am much more likely to stick around and see what it is about.

It turns out that the second dancer initially told the police that the accuser's claim of rape was a "crock" and that she was with the accuser the entire time they were at the house except for a span of five minutes. Fantastic, we have ruined the lives of 45 young men for absolutely no reason.

Speaking of comments that don't warrant a thread. I just re-listened to Forceable Entry which was released like in '04. If you listen to the full beginning of the song that was initially for the Hardy Boyz but would become Matt Hardy's theme song, it pretty much predicted what happened to Matt Hardy in '05.

This is the same guy who made a name for himself in ladder matches and tables, ladders, and chairs matches? Those matches weren't exactly psychological masterpieces.

They're going to burn the Edmonton Oilers?

That was a great spotfest between Clark and Dutt, partially ruined by TNA's insistance that we see Konnan speak.

We really don't need to see Konnan speak, we have ears.

Should be fun to find out who Alex Shelley's selects, I don't know of anyone else of the independent circuit that is like Chris Sabin.

I really didn't understand alot of that promo, except Alex Shelley's Joey Lawrence impression.

Yeah, he didn't seem blown up like he did against Triple H a few years ago.

Is Chris Sabin the next X-Division talent that TNA wants to move to the heavyweight division? A win against Kevin Nash would certainly start his push in the right direction.

How jacked up were Abyss and Ron Killings? Their exchange saved this entire segment.