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Week 5 Prediction Thread -- Braves/kkk
Kurt Angle Mark replied to kkktookmybabyaway's topic in Sports
Minnesota Vikings @ Atlanta Falcons-ATLANTA FALCONS Cincinnati Bengals @ Buffalo Bills-BUFFALO BILLS New Orleans Saints @ Carolina Panthers-CAROLINA PANTHERS Oakland Raiders @ Chicago Bears-CHICAGO BEARS Arizona Cardinals @ Dallas Cowboys-DALLAS COWBOYS Seattle Seahawks @ Green Bay Packers-GREEN BAY PACKERS Denver Broncos @ Kansas City Chiefs-KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Tennessee Titans @ New England Patriots-TENNESSEE TITANS Miami Dolphins @ New York Giants-MIAMI DOLPHINS San Diego Chargers @ Jacksonville Jaguars-SAN DIEGO CHARGERS Washington Redskins @ Philadelphia Eagles-PHILADELPHIA EAGLES Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers-DETROIT LIONS Cleveland Browns @ Pittsburgh Steelers-PITTSBURGH STEELERS Indianapolis Colts @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers-INDIANAPOLIS COLTS -
The delay in Raw ratings is due to a problem in that the original numbers given didn't include the overrun. The rating as things stand is a 3.4, which is the lowest in a long time. It may go up to a 3.5 depending on how the overrun did. Credit: Dave Meltzer ***Edit** lowest rating since the June 9 show if rating is a 3.5 lowest rating since the April 04 show if rating stays at 3.4
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HHH v. Steve Austin - No Way Out 2001?
Kurt Angle Mark replied to Nevermortal's topic in The WWE Folder
IMO The Rock vs. Angle and the Eddie/Benoit/Y2J/X-Pac matches on the same PPV were better than the Austin/HHH match. I just happen to hate brawls, which is why I never thought greatly of HHH's run because all his "great" matches were brawls. I mean how much much skill does it take to hit guys with chairs, sledgehammers, bats and other junk. -
Scott Carnegie sent this report. Thought I'd let you know some details on what happened with Eddie Guerrero on the Smackdown house show in Winnipeg tonight. I was a camera operator at the show and had a very good view. During the Los Guerreros and Basham Brothers match, Eddie was thrown against the railing. The fan in the front row who was directly behind him poured beer on him after about 2 seconds. Eddie was very upset and jumped the rail to go after the fan. The fan, a male who looked to be about 45 years old, started to take off. Eddie went after him and threw a couple of punches, not really landing any solid ones. While this was going on Chavo and the Bashams went into the crowd as well, staying back from the scuffle. Agents Arn Anderson and Jack Lanza came out to see what was happening. Security took the man away and Eddie came back to the ring. The whole timelasted about 2 minutes. They were all standing around for a while not quite sure how to proceed, after a minute they continued with the match. Afterwards, Eddie asked for the house mic and apologized to the fans in Winnipeg for his actions. He said because of his past problems with alcohol abuse, he was really angry that the fellow did that to him. He then ripped on the guys friends that were still sitting in the front row, saying how they urged their friend to pour beer on him and how the fan laughed as he was being taken away, that they didn't realize the seriousness of it. Eddie was over HUGE, even before this happened. After the fight fans cheered "Eddie" very loud and were solidly behind him. Later I was talking to the referee (not sure who he was) and he commented on how they weren't sure what to do afterwards, whether he should stop the match. The office gave the signal to keep going and they continued the match. In the back Chavo said that Eddie was still very upset and had went outside to cool off. I talked to one of the WWE production guys (Mark) and he said that Eddie is a very strong Christian and felt bad for having attacked the fan, and that's why he wanted to apologize. Apparently Eddie had turned his head to look up (he was crouched down at the railing) to see who was talking about pouring beer on him, and when the fan poured the beer on him he got a mouthful of it.
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Thanks to 411 reader Micah Distel for sending in this report. The area of the Fargodome they held the show in held about 15,000, but it was maybe 1/3 full. Rico(w/Jackie) and Spike went to a ten minute draw, but Spike wanted five more minutes and got it, then pinned Rico with the Dudley Dog. Test(w/Stacy) pinned Tommy Dreamer with a big boot, catching Tommy coming off the second turnbuckle. Mark Henry and Rodney Mack(w/Theodore) defeated Hurricane and Rosey when Henry pinned Hurricane following the World's Strongest Slam. Randy Orton pinned Lance Storm following the RKO. The Dudley Boyz defeated Rob Conway and Renee Dupree in a tables match for the belts after Bubba powerbombed Conway off the middle turnbuckle through a table. There was an intermission after that match. Christian pinned Rob Van Dam in a match for the IC Title with a rollup and his hand on the rope. RVD then destroyed Christian afterwards, finishing him off with the five star. Lita and Trish Stratus defeated Victoria and Jacqueline when Lita pinned Victoria after a Twist of Fate. Val Venis was the special guest referee. Shane McMahon defeated Kane in a streetfight, pinning him following the Van Terminator. Kane then got on the mic and said he was never coming back to Fargo, but after getting booed, he changed his mind and vowed to return.
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The One and Only Angel Season 5 Thread
Kurt Angle Mark replied to Steve J. Rogers's topic in Brandon Truitt
Well since this is the Angel thread, I thought I might share this. Today they were shooting a scene of the show in the street where I work at. However I didn't get to see any of the stars of the show, not that i would recognize many since I don' t watch the show. They were filming at the other end of the street and they had all the production trucks and trailers at our end of the street. Two of those trailers that the stars get to relax in or "star wagons" as they had written on them , were parked directly in front of the warehouse I work in. One had the name "Spike" on the door, and the other had "Gunn". There were also some portable dressing rooms with each room having a name tag such as "Angel""Angel's driver" and "Aztec Warrior". They filmed the scene around 5 am so as everyone made there way back it was was hard for me to get a clear look at anyone since it was dark and I made sure not to get too close and bother anyone. I know its not much but I felt like sharing it. -
From Wade Keller There's also a rumor among midcarders that Stephanie has decided to stop the ongoing storyline on Heat where Stevie Richards claims to be the GM of the show. This was pretty much agreed on because a key part of the angle was Coach and especially Al Snow selling it in the commentary and Al doing goofy skits with Stevie, but now that they're supposed to be hated heels and Bischoff stooges it just wouldn't work to have them play into it like they did. It's worth mentioning, though, that this story could have risen up on it's own just because Stevie wasn't on TV the last few weeks until he came back on the pre-PPV Heat. He'll be back in the saddle this weekend, which will be the first chance to see if Coach and Al make any mention of his angle. But the part of the rumor that's got midcard panties in a bunch is that somewhere it came out that Stephanie doesn't even watch Heat, which upset lower card guys who have dreams of being so impressive on the B-shows that they catch fire and get shot up to Raw or Smackdown. Most of the top executive type people don't go back and watch the B-shows as they're run on TV, but they do see things when they happen at the tapings.
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Smackdown rating slowly slipping
Kurt Angle Mark replied to OldSchoolWrestling's topic in The WWE Folder
Then it should also be noted that Smackdown that day had the Edge/Eddy ladder match and Benoit/Rey/Angle triple threat match going for it. -
Speaking of a waste of time, How about that Brock/Angle feud? Honestly tell me one good thing that came from it. The matches were just ok, their was no chemistry between them, neither guy came off looking any better than they did before. As an Angle fan I felt he wasted 6 months of his career. I don't mind the Angle/Cena feud because if booked correctly it has a chance of being something the Brock/Angle feud never was, entertaining.
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This week's edition of Raw did a 3.6 cable rating, with a 5 share, according to Nielsen Media Research. That is down a tenth of a point from last week. The show did hours of 3.4 and 3.8. While the company often gets a ratings boost on the show after the PPV, last night was the first evening of new programming on the major networks and that appeared to hurt Raw's number. It's interesting to note that the highest rated quarter hour of the show was the 10:00 to 10:15 segment, which featured the women's match and a recap of the Scott Steiner-Test angle. It did a 4.1 rating, After that, the show dropped to a 3.8, 3.7 and 3.5 before the overrun did a 3.8. No matter how you spin it, those are not good numbers. credit: 1wrestling.com
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Here is the official WWE.com preview EDDIE TO DEFEND BOTH HIS TITLES ON THE SAME NIGHT! Sept. 25, 2003 Eddie Guerrero will make history tonight on SmackDown!, which airs at 8/7 CT on UPN. In what is believed to be an unprecedented occurrence, Latino Heat will defend both the WWE Tag Team Championship (with his nephew, Chavo) and the United States Championship on the same night! Los Guerreros are scheduled to defend against Matt Hardy and Shannon Moore. Then, Eddie will put the U.S. Title on the line against Charlie Haas! It'll indeed be a night of champions on SmackDown!, as the Cruiserweight Title will be on the line as well, when Tajiri challenges Rey Mysterio! Speaking of titles, we've got a new WWE Champion: Brock Lesnar! This week on SmackDown!, WWE Chairman Vince McMahon has promised to present the title to Lesnar in an elaborate in-ring ceremony. Plus, Undertaker, John Cena, Sable and much more tonight on SmackDown!
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Here you go Credit: Mike Johnson & 1wrestling.com - A red carpet was put down in the ring for the WWE Championship presentation to Brock Lesnar. Vince McMahon and Sable came out to the ring, but Kurt Angle's music hit, and Angle came out. Vince said he expected Angle to come out and bitch about his loss, and told Angle that he was going to have to work his way back up the ladder if he wants a title shot. Angle said he was there to "kick Brock's ass" and said either Brock could come to the ring, or he could go to the back and find him. John Cena came out instead, and cut a rap on Angle for losing the title, and told Angle that he "sucks". Angle beat up Cena, tossing him from the ring, and Cena retreated. Since Brock would not come to the ring, Angle went to the back to look for him. Angle broke into Brock's dressing room, but Brock was not there, so Angle trashed the room. As Angle was leaving the room, Cena attacked Angle and ran off. When Angle got up, he went off in pursuit of Cena. - John Cena ran from the building, got in a car and left. Kurt Angle ran out, saw him driving off, and commandeered Vince McMahon's limo to follow him. - Los Guerreros defeated Matt Hardy & Shannon Moore to retain the WWE Tag Team Championship when Eddie pinned Moore with a frog splash. After the match, as Chavo was leaving, Matt Hardy gave Eddie the Twist Of Fate onto one of the tag title belts. Chavo ran back in to make the save, but Charlie Haas came in from the crowd and knocked Chavo from the ring. Haas then put Eddie in the Haas Of Pain. - It had been announced earlier that Eddie was going to have to defend the U.S. Title against Haas later tonight. - A-Train came to the ring and got on the mic, ripping on the fans in Philadelphia and even getting in Tazz' face. He said he is tired of hearing how he can't beat Chris Benoit. A-Train ended up beating on the timekeeper before Benoit came out. The two brawled, and Benoit locked on the Crippler Crossface. A-Train broke the hold, standing up out of it, and tossed Benoit to the floor. A-Train then cracked Benoit with a chair, leaving him laying. - Backstage, Eddie Guerrero was in pain from the Charlie Haas attack. The trainer said perhaps he shouldn't wrestle tonight, but Eddie told the trainer not to tell him what to do. Eddie walked off, determined to wrestle, with Chavo supporting him. - Backstage, Vince McMahon told a production assistant that they would be having the WWE Title presentation to Brock Lesnar tonight. - Josh Matthews interviewed Charlie Haas. Haas said that he took out Eddie Guerrero tonight just like the Guerreros took out his partner Shelton Benjamin last week. He vowed to take the Unites States Title tonight, the same way the Guerreros took his Tag Team Title last week. - In a really good, and long, match, Yoshihiro Tajiri defeated Rey Mysterio to win the Cruiserweight Championship. Tajiri spewed red mist at Rey and delivered a kick to the head for the win. - Jamie Noble & Bradshaw defeated The Basham Brothers by disqualification. Bradshaw hit the Clothesline From Hell on Doug and Shaniqua ran in and hit Bradshaw for the DQ. During the match, Shaniqua clotheslined Nidia on the floor. - Charlie Haas vs. Eddie Guerrero for the U.S. Title is next. - Footage of Rock at his Hollywood premiere for "The Rundown" was shown. - It was announced that there would be an update on Zach Gowen next week. - Big Show defeated Arch Kincaid & John Walters in a handicap match. Show then joined Tazz and Michael Cole to provide commentary. - Vince McMahon was about to have some fun with Sable when Stephanie McMahon showed up in the office and reminded Vince that she won't quit her job as General Manager. - Eddie Guerrero defeated Charlie Haas with a frog splash to retain the U.S. Title. Big Show attacked Guerrero before the match and tossed him into the ringpost back first. The story of the match was Haas working on Guerrero's back. Near the end, Haas tried to use the title belt, but the referee stopped him. There was a ref bump, and Haas charged at Guerrero, but Eddie had grabbed the belt and draped it over a corner. Guerrero sidestepped Haas, who collided with the belt in the corner. Eddie then delivered the splash for the pin. - Smackdown ended with the title ceremony. Vince McMahon presented the belt to Brock Lesnar, who talked about how he is unstoppable. The Undertaker came in, and confronted Brock about their number one contender's match a few weeks ago (which Brock hit Taker with a chair). Undertaker revealed that at No Mercy, he will challenge Brock for the WWE Championship. - Vince McMahon got in Undertaker's face, asking who made that match. Stephanie McMahon came out and revealed that she made the match. Vince threatened to wrestle Stephanie himself if she didn't change the match. Stephanie stood her ground, so Vince McMahon announced that he will wrestle his daughter in an "I Quit" match at No Mercy and force her to quit. - The show ended with a brawl, and Undertaker chokeslamming Brock Lesnar. - So, for No Mercy, we have: * The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar for the WWE Championship. * Stephanie McMahon vs. Vince McMahon in an "I Quit" match.
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Actually the wedding is on the Saturday following the PPV. So I guess the chances of her losing the match are high.
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Final Segment Smackdown ended with the title ceremony. Vince McMahon presented the belt to Brock Lesnar, who talked about how he is unstoppable. The Undertaker came in, and confronted Brock about their number one contender's match a few weeks ago (which Brock hit Taker with a chair). Undertaker revealed that at No Mercy, he will challenge Brock for the WWE Championship. Vince McMahon got in Undertaker's face, asking who made that match. Stephanie McMahon came out and revealed that she made the match. Vince threatened to wrestle Stephanie himself if she didn't change the match. Stephanie stood her ground, so Vince McMahon announced that he will wrestle his daughter in an "I Quit" match at No Mercy and force her to quit. The show ended with a brawl, and Undertaker chokeslamming Brock Lesnar. So, for No Mercy, we have: - The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar for the WWE Championship. - Stephanie McMahon vs. Vince McMahon in an "I Quit" match.
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From 1wrestling.com A lot of people can speculate about the political situation of the WWE, but GIR had someone on the show this week that really witnessed it. Kevin Kelly, a 7 year WWE employee talked about it all this week right after the boys settled their feud with SD Jones in a heartwarming segment. Listen to the archive at www.getinthering.tv and tune in live every Sunday at 7pm Eastern in NY 540 AM WLIE and streamed live on www.wlie.com. -Kevin Kelly joins the show and right off the bat talk turns to SD Jones, and how the boys just made peace with him. Then Phantom awkwardly asks Kevin if he left WWE or was fired, to which Kevin confirms he was fired on March 21st 2003. He was with the company for 7 years, and Sir Adam says “it sucks” that he got fired. He puts over Kevin as an employee who seemed to contribute a lot to the WWE product, and that there are some others that probably could’ve been let go before him. Kelly says it was one of the things that left him scratching his head, because he saw many people come into the company over the years that didn’t really respect wrestling the way he did. He never said a name, but said “they weren’t wrestling people, I’d say ‘hey did you watch the show last night?’ ‘No,’ ‘well why not?’ ‘I don’t like wrestling’, I can’t tell you how many times I heard that over the years.” -Sir Adam asks what the WWE is looking for when they post job openings for writers, because he feels most of the people who get the jobs are Hollywood b-team players. Kelly says they continue to look for the same types of people, until they get one who fits. “You’re trying to find the right mix of players…they are reevaluating everything constantly.” Phantom asks if his firing was a shock, Kelly replies “the timing was, because we were two weeks out of Wrestlemania, and what I usually did was write the voiceover notes for the announcers, which usually turns out looking like a press kit. Probably 30 pages of documentation, stats on each wrestler, and I noticed the announcers would rely on that heavily, some more than others.” That was one of the things that bothered Kelly, that he didn’t have the chance to do that this year, and he didn’t purchase Wrestlemania this year, “because it was 40 bucks, and I just got sacked”. Phantom talks about how this year the WWE extended invites to all the Wrestling Press for a pre-Mania conference in NY, and says it was the first time he was treated with some semblance of respect by the WWE. Kelly says, that’s the way it should be, invites sent out to all media outlets. Talk turns to the WWE and why they love getting their guys on mainstream media outlets such as the Byron Allen show, and how they don’t allow them to go on fine shows such as Get in the Ring. Kelly says that the “braintrust” in the WWE believes that the core wrestling audience will always be there, “they feel like they could put a WWE logo on the bottom of TV test patterns and wrestling fans will still watch….Listen this is not what I believe, I believe that if you have good quality wrestling first and foremost, then good storylines you have a winning formula, but it’s always about the wrestling.” -Sir Adam asks if Kelly was encouraged to send ideas to the writing department, Kelly said he was always encouraged to do so, but his ideas were never followed up on by the staff. “99.9% of the time, they might be read, and you’d get an email saying thanks for the idea, of course they wouldn’t use them.” Kevin Kelly feels responsible for “ruining the wrestling world” because the one idea he sent in that the WWE did use was the marriage of Stephanie McMahon and HHH, and Stephanie turning on Test several years ago. -Phantom reveals that he once reached out to Kevin because he hated his last day job so much. He felt that Kevin seemed to be the most approachable of the WWE staff, and sent him some ideas and tried to get into the company thorough Kelly. While the Phantom felt that Kelly genuinely wanted the help him, was apprehensive about doing so, and asks “Is Big Brother always watching you there?” Kevin responds, “It’s difficult when you have to deal with anything involving Human Resources….. when it was just strictly, ‘let’s create, let’s have fun, let’s tell some stories and entertain’, easy simple, the more complicated you make the business, through the business structure the harder it is to get things done.” Kelly then explains the red tape involved in getting an idea from an outside source, and how he had to CC so many people and if you forgot to CC one person “you’d get an email saying ‘why didn’t you CC me?’” Phantom then says that Kelly got fired just a few weeks after they traded emails, and at the time hoped it wasn’t because they were conversing, to which Kelly replies, “You are powerful, but not that powerful.” -Kevin Kelly laughs when Sir Adam says that the WWE “obviously puts some money into Byte This”. Kelly says, “the only thing we had was access to great guests”. Phantom brings up the Steve Austin appearance on Byte This before his 8 month hiatus last year, and how fascinating it was to listen to a Superstar be dead honest with the way he felt about the WWE product. “I had to give him the chance to talk his way out of it…give him the opportunity to say he was misquoted…if he said all of that negative stuff, you don’t need me saying ‘well Steve you said this’ no, let him talk about it himself”. Then Kelly talks about how they turned around and used the Byte This content on Confidential “which really made me proud”. Phantom asks if Kelly thinks he was let go because his philosophy of “more insider stuff” was opposite from WWE’s “less insider stuff” philosophy. Pointing to his stint as producer of Confidential and how it seemed like during his watch there was more “inside” subjects. Kelly says he “wanted to do more cross promotion, using the website, Byte This, and Confidential to progress storylines”…Kevin puts over the efforts of the crew of Confidential and says he used to come up with the ideas for shows but names producers and editors that make the show “as good as it is, and it’s a shame not more people watch it.” -Kelly says the talent always responded positively to all of his work in WWE, but says one time he had words with Steve Austin in 1998. During the pre-Wrestlemania hype, Kelly did an article in the WWE magazine about Austin and brought up all the injuries he’s suffered over the years. Austin felt that those injuries wouldn’t be an issue and took offense to Kelly laundry listing them. Kelly explained his point that his win would even be more heroic to the reader when they read just exactly what he had to overcome to get to where he was. Kelly said that there was always a mutual respect between he and the talent, and that he felt a lot of the underused guys would go to him to voice their concerns. He wasn’t known as a “stooge” who would tell the front office when someone was complaining. -Kelly knows that wrestling locker rooms have a tendency to thrive on controversy. “They love the dirt, it’s like a fraternity environment…. Everybody’s in your business, that’s one of the more problematic things that the Superstars have to deal with when their on the road”. Sir Adam asks if radio shows such as GIR are brought up a lot if a Superstar says something on it. “If a Superstar is quoted with saying something that another takes offense to, you will hear about it.” Kelly says that the recent fight between Shane Helms and Rodney Mack is probably going to be the talk of the locker room for a few weeks. “Now Hurricane is 0-2 in wrestling fights, didn’t he get beat up by Buff Bagwell a few years ago?” To which the boys say he hit Buff with a frozen water bottle, Kelly then responds, “Yeah he’s a real tough guy… once everything is settled the fights become a running locker room joke.” -On hazing: “one person can consider these pranks good fun while another considers it hazing. The line changes from person to person…I can tell you in all the time I’ve known Bradshaw he’s never done anything to intentionally hurt someone, it’s always in fun. The thing he does is give you a big Texas slap on the back, it might sting a little bit but that’s just him. If you went up to him and said hey John please don’t do that to me anymore, he’d say fine.” -Kelly talks about “a disturbed young man” who has a Kevin Kelly fansite. “The good thing is that he’s in England and can’t stalk my family”. -Kelly loved when he used to do the hermaphrodite bit with the Rock. It never bothered him, Kevin believes that Rock’s success as a Hollywood actor all hinges upon how well “the Rundown” does at the box office, because when he was successful with the Mummy/Scorpion King wrestling was hot, it isn’t anymore. -Kelly feels it’s a mistake to use the McMahons so much on WWE TV these days. “it’s alienating new fans, and taking airtime away from guys who could carry the company in a few years when wrestling becomes hot again.” Phantom asks if the McMahon kids are forced into the spotlight by Vince or if they actually seek it themselves, Kelly says “With Shane, he’ll do whatever is asked of him but I don’t see him as someone who likes the spotlight. Stephanie seeks it out I really believe she enjoys being Stephanie McMahon, the TV character.” Kelly hated when HHH was handed a championship belt, “I was off the road for a while, but I know when Stephanie took over the creative team, that’s when it started to spiral out of control. I know the creative team tried to get RVD and Kane to be victorious over HHH for the title. HHH vetoed the ideas because he was ‘better than both of them’” Kelly said he might have a point, “but hello it’s fake! It’s a work!” -Kelly still lives in Connecticut and works for New England Championship wrestling, and Jim Kettner’s ECWA Delaware Fed, who he puts over as the “standard to which all other indys are based.” Kelly said the WWE gave him 4 months of severance pay, “so I can’t complain”, Kelly was sent to a resume writing course by the WWE, with another guy who was a WWE accountant, with the company for 20 years, and a guy who was in the TV studio for 15 years. He feels that the WWE had a business model that counted on the XFL being successful and when it wasn’t jobs had to be cut. He thought when Vince attacked Bob Costas after his XFL questions, it was a case of the real person being taken over by his TV character.
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Arizona Cardinals at St. Louis Rams-ST. LOUIS RAMS Cincinnati Bengals at Cleveland Browns-CLEVELAND BROWNS Jacksonville Jaguars at Houston Texans-HOUSTON TEXANS New England Patriots at Washington Redskins-NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS Philadelphia Eagles at Buffalo Bills-BUFFALO BILLS San Francisco 49ers at Minnesota Vikings-MINNESOTA VIKINGS Tennessee Titans at Pittsburgh Steelers-PITTSBURGH STEELERS Kansas City Chiefs at Baltimore Ravens-KANSAS CITY CHIEFS San Diego Chargers at Oakland Raiders-SAN DIEGO CHARGERS Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers-ATLANTA FALCONS Dallas Cowboys at New York Jets-NEW YORK JETS Detroit Lions at Denver Broncos-DENVER BRONCOS Indianapolis Colts at New Orleans Saints-INDIANAPOLIS COLTS Green Bay Packers at Chicago Bears (MNF)-GREEN BAY PACKERS
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(9) Eddie Guerrero defeated John Cena to retain the WWE United States Title. Pre-match Cena cuts a great anti-Binghamton promo calling all the women trailer trash and telling us to kiss his a$$ ( didn't bother me, I don't live there...thank god!). Match seemed a bit rushed after Guerrero missed a frog splash and seemed to injure his elbow...must have been legit as the trainer came out almost immediately. They wrapped up quick due to the injury with Guerrero smacking Cena with the U.S. title and getting the win. Post-match, Eddie and the trainer walked back to the locker room with Guerrero holding his arm very low at his side. credit: Pwtorch.com
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Ok for the last time Shane-O-Mac defenders...
Kurt Angle Mark replied to Damaramu's topic in The WWE Folder
This is not the first time Shane has hurt the credibilty of a wrestler, I will give you two other examples 1. Chris Benoit- When The Rock was feuding with Benoit, the storyline wasn't whether or not Chris Benoit could beat the Rock but instead all the focus was placed on Shane. All you heard was "With Shane on Benoit side The Rock doesn't stand a chance." How is The Rock going to overcome Shane's involvement? etc. etc. From the start it was made clear that Benoit had no shot without Shane in his corner. 2. Booker T- After jobbing to The Rock, The WWE books a handicap match Booker T/Shane vs The Rock which made Booker T look like a complete jobber. Finally to make matters worse who gets pinned in the match? Shane? No, Booker T does. -
Ok for the last time Shane-O-Mac defenders...
Kurt Angle Mark replied to Damaramu's topic in The WWE Folder
I guess that 's what Kane gets for missing HHH's bachelor party. -
Actually she said she was wouldn't be interested in a three way
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It's not like the WWE had a choice, that is practically the entire Smackdown roster. The only guy they were missing was Angle.
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Here is a more deatailed report form wrestlingobserver.com by Tim Lauria We kick off with Stephanie coming to the ring. Before she can speak, Vince comes out with Sable. Vince tells Stephanie that she should just quit now. She says never. Vince is mad that she booked Brock Lesnar vs. Undertaker in a cage match for tonight's main event. He says he's going to send someone out here to get her out of his ring. The Big Show's music hits, & he comes out. Right when a chokeslam is about to happen, Chris Benoit runs in to make the save, which leads us to our first match. 1) Chris Benoit vs. The Big Show Nice short match. The Big Show is very huge in person if you haven't seen him before. He was out of breathe pretty early. No matter what the critics may say about him, he does what he's supposed to do, and that's look like a dominant big man. Benoit ofcourse was Benoit. The match ended after Show tapped out to the crossface. Winner: Chris Benoit 2) Spanky & Paul London vs. Matt Hardy & Shannon Moore This was a pretty exciting tag match that really got the crowd into the show. London looked really impressive in this one especially. His back flips he does on his dropkicks will really get him over well once he's on TV. Match ended with a Twist of Fate by Matt to London. London & Spanky got a decent ovation when leaving. Winners: Hardy & Moore 3) Funaki vs. Nunzio Nunzio played to the crowd a lot in this one, which really got them fired up. Semi-comedy match that saw Funaki get the win after a fluke rollup. Winner: Funaki 4) The Basham Bros. vs. Ultimo Dragon & Jamie Noble No Nidia or Shaniqua tonight. Dragon got a really good ovation. Match ended after a Basham's double team. Once again, another good ovation for the losing team when they left. Winners: The Basham Bros. 5) Orlando Jordan vs. A-Train This was a total squash match. Albert did his job of being the bruiser heel, & won it with a devistating pump kick. Winner: A-Train 6) Rey Mysterio vs. Tajiri - Cruiserweight Title Match Mysterio got a huge pop from the crowd. Nice cruiser match that looks to be a preview of this weeks Smackdown title match. Mysterio won it after a 6-1-9 to a West Coast Pop. Winner: Rey Mysterio -INTERMISSION- Tony Chimmel pumped the fans up with the T-shirt gun guy coming out as well. 7) Charlie Haas vs. Billy Kidman Haas comes out and tells the fans to respect the greatest. He says that Shelton's surgery was a success, so he'll be back in no time. In the mean time, he's here to take care of business. Nice short match, with Haas getting the pin after Kidman missed a Shooting Star Press. Winner: Charlie Haas 8) Eddie Guererro vs. John Cena vs. Rhyno - US Title Match This match got the biggest pop of the night to thsi point in the show. Eddie was his usual self with his sneaky ways. After the ref was knocked out, Rhyno gored Cena into the belt, knocking them both out. Guererro looked at the crowd & shrugged, threw the belt out of the ring, & gave Cena a frog-splash for the pin. Winner: Guererro SUPRISE OF NIGHT came when Cena got on the mic after the match. He said he just got his BUTT kicked, so he does a free style knocking New York & praising Boston. All of a sudden, Tazz's music hits, & Tazz comes to the ring. Cena is a little scared, & Tazz ends up giving Cena the Tazzmission to a massive pop from his home town crowd. 9) Bikini Contest - Sable vs. Dawn Marie vs. Torrie Chimmel introduces Funaki as the special guest announcer. Funaki then announces two butthole DJ's from some crap station as the hosts. Sable coems out & taunts the crowd about not having to be here tonight. Dawn Marie comes out to a huge pop, being that she's from Woodbridge, NJ, close to my home of Piscataway, NJ, by the way. Torrie then comes out, & all three stripped down. Torrie ofcourse got the win, but Dawn Marie came in at a very close second. Personally, I think Dawn looked the best tonight, although Sable wasn't bad herself. Sable attacks both ladies after the match. Winner: Torrie 10)Cage Match - Brock Lesnar vs. The Undertaker - World Title Match This is under escaping rules. Brock & Undertaker both came out to good pops. Lots of exciting spots in this match, as these two guys shocked me by putting on a 25 minute PPV-caliber match. I was surprised they gave us that much. Vince came out & caused the Taker to lose by holding his boot as Brock escaped. I left after that, so whatever happend afterward is a mystery. Winner: Brock Lesnar Overall, a definatly great house show. I couldn't really judge the pops, so I'd just say Mysterio, Tazz, Taker, & Brock got the biggest pops, while Cena got the most heat.
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I wouldn't say it was because of lack of talent, more like lack of chemistry. Sort of like Austin and Jericho, no one is going to deny that these two are talented but they never clicked in the ring and all their matches were mediocre at best.
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All this means is that it's not a good idea to have an Iron Man Match on Free TV. If wrestling meant nothing then the Angle/Undertaker match would have not gotten the 4.0 rating that it did.
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I would just like to tell you guys that Wade Keller gave the match *****