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Looks like somebody figured out who the wikipedia editor is and corssreferenced the IP's other names through facebook and, maybe, figured out who it was.
http://spring.newsvine.com/_news/2007/06/2...e-before-policeThe user who made the Benoit Wikipedia edit also made a several changes dating back to May 16th of this year. In one edit to the page on Naugatuck, Connecticut page, he replaces the name of the town's mayor to Marc Dagz, adding Visar Tasimi as the deputy mayor and also adding the name Burton Barnes to the page.
When these names are cross-referenced on the social-networking website facebook, it is revealed that both Dagz and Barnes are friends and current UConn students, whose hometown is, unsurprisingly, Naugatuck, Connecticut. A check to Tasimi's facebook and MySpace pages shows he is also a friend of the other two from Naugatuck and attending UConn. All of the three recently finished their first year of college. While not knowing which person made the edits for certain, given the specific nature of the other edits and corroborating evidence, it seems almost certain the edits were made by either Marc Dagz, Visar Tasimi, or Burton Barnes (and one might lean towards Dagz, given that he made himself the mayor of his own hometown).
The guy who made the wikipedia edit issued a "statement".
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit_m..._coincidence%22Hey everyone. I am here to talk about the wikipedia comment that was left by myself. I just want to say that it was an incredible coincidence. Last weekend, I had heard about Chris Benoit no showing Vengeance because of a family emergency, and I had heard rumors about why that was. I was reading rumors and speculation about this matter online, and one of them included that his wife may have passed away, and I did the wrong thing by posting it on wikipedia to spite there being no evidence. I posted my speculation on the situation at the time and I am deeply sorry about this, and I was just as shocked as everyone when I heard that this actually would happen in real life. It is one of those things that just turned into a huge coincidence. That night I found out that what I posted, ended up actually happening, a 1 in 10,000 chance of happening, or so I thought. I was beyond wrong for posting wrongful information, and I am sorry to everyone for this. I just want everyone to know it was stupid of me, and I will never do anything like this again. I just posted something that was at that time a piece of wrong unsourced information that is typical on wikipedia, as it is done all the time.
Nonetheless, I feel incredibly bad for all the attention this got because of the fact that what I said turned out to be the truth. Like I said it was just a major coincidence, and I will never vandalize anything on wikipedia or post wrongful information. I've learned from this experience. I just can't believe what I wrote was actually the case, I've remained stunned and saddened over it.
I wish not to reveal my identity so I can keep me and my family out of this since they have nothing to do with anything. I am not connected to WWE or Benoit at all in anyway. I am from Stamford as the IP address shows, and I am just an everyday individual who posted a wrongful remark at the time that received so much attention because it turned out to actually happen. I will say again I didn't know anything about the Benoit tragedy, it was a terrible coincidence that I never saw coming.
I hope this puts an end to this speculation that someone knew about the tragedy before it was discovered. It was just a rumor that I had heard about from other people online who were speculating what the family emergency Chris was attending to. I made a big mistake by posting this comment on his page, since all we had were what we thought was going on and nothing about what actually was going on yet, and sadly what happened turned out to be my speculation at the time. I assumed wiki would edit out my information, which they did, so thats why I didn't go back to edit it out myself.
I know I keep repeating it but I feel terrible about the mainstream coverage this has received, since it was only a huge coincidence and a terrible event that should of never happened. I am not sure how to react, as hearing about my message becoming a huge part of the Benoit slayings made me feel terrible as everyone believes that it is connected to the tragedy, but it was just an awful coincidence. That is all I have to say, I will never post anything here again unless it is pure fact, no spam nothing like that. Thank you, and let this end this chapter of the Benoit story, and hopefully one day we will find out why this tragedy ever actually happened.
That Wikipedia deal is really weird, and I believe one of us here at TSM (cant remember who though) posted that stuff WAY before media reports leaked about it, actually on Monday night IIRC.
Absolutely. And the wikipedia.org folks should think about chaning their infrastructure to allow only registered users to edit articles. Would have helped in this case, considering how uninformative vague a single IP address and hostname can be.
On MSNBC, Metlzer isn't presenting his side very well. Marc Mero's actually doing a better job right now about the real pressures of being in the wrestling business than Dave is.
Geraldo is such a jackass, bringing up the crippler nickname story. Way to screw that one up. How did he ever get a job a FOX NEWS?
For the record, I still have a lot of stuff from the early IGN days stored away in the bowels of an old drive. I've got a large chunk of the Scoop Slam Post, the original threads of the first two years of PPVs, 2001 and 2002 IGNWF Awards, the last ML show, and a bunch of other random things that may or may not be useful.
There's also the source code and images from at least three versions of the website that we've had in the past (the original IGN themed one, the terrible orange one that followed it, and the one from about three years ago during my second run. Basically the three I made and, against all reason and logic, tried to maintain.
If anybody wants to go through it all and pick out what should go in the wiki, let me know.
Might as well come out of the shadows for this.
Don't forget how this whole thing started sporadically as one massive thread. Once IGN gave us a forum, everybody was so excited to be a part of something new that there was a lot of drive to be a part of something special. It was the new thing at the time, and considering the era (end of the wrestling and internet booms) e-feds were hot. We were innovative and creative enough to draw the masses.
That isn't the case anymore. E-feds in general are down. Places like IWO and FWLnet.com don't exist anymore, and what does exist isn't nearly as popular. Peoples' attention has shifted since this started. Facebook, Myspace, and Youtube weren't around. The basic idea a of what a blog is was just taking shape. Seven years ago, when message boards (particularly IGN's) were booming, people finally had a channel to express themselves on the internet that didn't involve building a geocities website. There was a novelty to it that made it special. Now the idea of a community on the internet is huge, and very ego-centric. Why would you put in the time and effort to write a 5000 word match when you can film yourself sitting in front of your computer talking to your dog, and get instant feedback and attention?
A lot's changed since then. The average age of the active writers here is at least five years above what it was in the beginning. The activity in chat, on the boards, and message boards in general has gone down. There was a time when you couldn't go an hour without checking the board for something new. These days, it's common to see a day go by without a post. Even the popularity of wrestling has been relatively flat since the WCW Invasion debacle, in large part due to a lack of true competition. The quality of writing itself has gone up here, as Divefire mentioned. Why bother when you're hitting singles and everyone else is hitting home runs?
But the fed hasn't changed much since the beginning, and the fact that it hasn't adapted to the things that have changes is a large part of what's led it here. People came and went, show names and schedules have changed, and feeder leagues opened and closed. But by and large, the system that worked seven years ago hasn't been altered. That's not altogether bad, but it clearly doesn't contribute to any sort of growth or sustained success.
Advertising, moving, building yet another website is no solution. It may help in the short term, but the long term problems will continue to be there. Think about what you would do if you were to start a new e-fed today. Consider everything that the web is now: myspace, wikis, youtube, facebook, blogs, video, web 2.0 in general, etc. Utilize them and form a concept that can be a mold for a new and successful SWF. Take the ideas that have been mentioned like lowering word limits, booking newbies in some easy matches, providing some channels for instant gratification, etc. Retain the foundations of competitive match writing, wrestling knowledge, character building, a forum and an active community. Think outside the boards. If you want this to continue, then use the things that motivated you to participate in this project in the first place, and build something new with them.
I'd hate for this thing to go out with a whimper, so I'm happy to help in any capacity. If you're folding up in October, I have a lot of matches, promos and resources archived from the days when this all started that may come in handy. I don't have the time or skill to be active on a weekly basis, but if you're rebuilding the fed or restructuring in some way, I'll gladly lend a hand to that endeavor as well.
If you want to go back to the origin of the original title(s), they go like this:
US: Up for grabs in the finals of a tournament at the original IGNWF Genesis on 10/29/2000, won by Outcast over Spike...
JL: Contested on 10/29/2000 as well, with Fallout defeating Bobby Riley in another tournament final. On 1/26/04 Landon Maddix defeated Alan Clark and unified the European and World Junior League titles. Six days later, at Clusterfuck, he lost to Sacred and the title was unified with the SWF US title, thus becoming the USJL Championship.
Interesting note: In addition to being the last man to win it, Sacred was the third man to hold the JL World title. Later in his career, among other accomplishments, he went on to win the US title over Bobby Riley.
::goes back under his rock::
You feel old? Imagine how I feel. And Sacred. And anyone else who's still remotely around and lurks.
That's fine for me... the only thing is, there are but 4 teams in the league (which is head to head this year). That doesn't really make for heated competition, though there were only about 6 people actually playing last year...
Well when someone throws your one and only rock into the sea, you're left with very few choices.
And thus, back.
As last year's winner, I feel that it's my duty to defend the Fantasy crown...
...lord knows, it's the only thing i've stuck with and won around here...
If you guys lost the files, I still have a copy of the site on my comp here.
/me crawls back under his rock.
If you could possibly throw in a mention of my run as Atlas, and then unmasking myself, that'd definitely be great. Just a short story about a former World Champion making an effort to return and nearly succeeding.
Or at least a sidebar somewhere...
Just so you know, I've been slacking off mostly because of school and work. I now get paid to update my University's admissions site, which takes priority over this. Add to that the amount of work I get from taking 17 credits this semester and I barely have enough time to get things done and still enjoy myself.
The JL site is pretty much dead. I haven;'t touched that for months. The WF site is a bit behind, maybe a couple of weeks. It's still salvageable by whoever wants to update it. Not that it was ever meant to be out flagship site (as I recall, it was a temporary solution until we get version 2 out). The problem with this one, as was with every other one we've had, was that updating it is such a hassle. There's no connection between the boards and the site, meaning whoever does update it has to keep going back and fourth to do it. If a system was implemented that allowed whoever posts the show to dynamically update the site, it'd save people a lot of time.
I've used a total of *one* themes in my career: No Leaf Clover by Metallica...
(Other than the Atlas run, which was done with Heaven's a Lie by Lacuna Coil.)
In addition to my own, I'd nominate Welcome to the Jungle for Neilsen. Definitely one of the more memorable ones we've had here.
Around here, we called it rain. Wasn't anywhere near hurricane proportions.
And the loss of power sucks, Thugg. That's exactly what we had to do when the blackout hit.
Die Hard vs. Prime Evil, Triple cage match from the first 13th Hour. Even thought we lost that one, it should definitely be included.
Comet vs. The Soda Machine
Something from the Neilsen vs. Grimedogg era back in the day.
Can't think of too many more right now...
S-L-B... never mind.
You and merc are the only ones that still get that.
Been 18 since mid-August. Damn, I feel young compared to some of you.
Spike...didn't you do the first Awards Show? I seem to remember you doing that over on IGNWF.
Da "is an old head" H
It was a collaborative thing then too, Thugg. I think the CC board (all... three of us) came up with the nominations back then, and I posted the thread. The voting tabulations were a bit different as there was a new account made strictly for that, so that any member on CC could go in and validate the votes (tabulated by Drew) in case there were any discrepancies. That's all I can remember off the top of my head.
I'm all for doing it like last year (and consequently, the year before). Mainly because I can finally make it into some JL and WF categories.
Yeah, the site is more or less up to date. The updates will usually come a day or two after the show is posted, because my schedule right now is all sorts of fucked up.
I'll post a prominent link to one of the joining threads, probably the one on the JL board, someone just make sure that threads no outdated (one part still says to contact crusen to join, I believe).
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Everything should sort itself out when this breaks in the mainstream news and this guy ends up with his own wikipedia page, complete with vandalizations and all. Poetic justice at its finest. Might even screw with him professionally for a while if this whole story pops up when a potential future employer googles his name and finds this stuff.