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USC will win although with quite the under whelming performance. Might cost them a few first place votes, depending on how the other games go, but they've wrapped up the Orange Bowl bid. Okay maybe it's not over. UCLA just won't die.

But unlike Bonds they weren't tied to a company who distributed steroids. I personally don't think an asterisk is needed. People can make up their own minds on the legitimacy of the 73 homeruns. I do believe Bonds needs to retire as it's the only thing he can do to save face. Can you imagine the fiasco that will be him going for Aaron's record in April of 2006? The entire focus will be on steroids and how the record will be tainted. It will be a p.r. nightmare for MLB.

Dama, I'm putting up a OaO Orangel Bowl thread tommorrow so let's just save that until then especially with not everything decided yet. Weird game. USC has pretty much dominated but only up 20-10 because of poor special teams and were really bailed out by a terrible no fumble call.

Edit: wrong thread.

Navy has their game under control so Virginia (Edwin MacPhisto) are the Big Atlantic Champions. Edwin is on his way to the Bored Bowl. The score to the SEC title game could decide the Pac-8 title game. Big MAC title game won't be decided until late tonight with Hawaii game.

Ron Zook will apparantly be named the new head coach at Illinois. Va Tech scores first on Miami in the 2nd quarter, 7-0.

What the hell are you talking about? If Colorado wins the Big XII title game they are automatically in the Fiesta Bowl. The Fiesta Bowl wouldn't have a choice. Texas' only chance at going to a BCS bowl is to move past Cal. pinjockey if Oklahoma is upset they'll be knocked out of the BCS most likely. They'd likely drop below Cal in the voter polls.

Here you go Damaramu here is your own thread now to talk about Oklahoma football all you want. Any thought on Oklahoma that pops in your head just post it here. Of course everyone else is free to talk about Oklahoma football here as well. BTW the greatest player Oklahoma football history is Billy Sims.

Just his ninth team but his seventh since 2001.

Yes that's what he has admitted to but they had other evidence on Bonds that was presented to him (in the quotes in my previous post) but he denied them. So it's really down to if you believe Bonds or not. Those who have always thought Bonds was on steroids won't believe him and those who always thought he didn't take steroids will believe him. Basically we're back to square one in this debate. That's the same question I had when I first read it. Why would Anderson tell Giambi but not his good friend Bonds? Unless Bonds is lying of course...

Link to the actual article: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...12/03/BALCO.TMP

Edit: Just noticed this is in the offseason thread but this deserves its own. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file...12/02/BALCO.TMP

http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/n...orts-columnists Newsday hit piece on Giambi's lifestyle off the field. Kinda all over the place, goes into his habitual steroid use and his well known all night partying (OMG an athlete drinking and going to strip clubs!) but this paragraph was fairly interesting:

It's bizarre seeing a MAC title game not in freezing weather. Boo-urns on having it in a dome. Looks like Toledo is going to win, up 35-20 late in the 4th.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1917367 I'm lukewarm on the whole idea but early March is definently the best time to hold it and more likely to get strong participation from star players then doing it after the season. 16 countries though? Let's see you'd have United States, Japan, South Korea, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Canada, maybe Cuba, Panama, Australia. That's ten, maybe eleven. I don't know what other countries could field even marginally competitive team and a few of those listed aren't exactly going to be that good as well. I'd go with eight countries.

Big Atlantic Picks Virginia (Edwin MacPhisto) THURSDAY MAC Championship: Toledo SATURDAY Pittsburgh Miami Louisville Navy USC SEC Championship: Auburn California Big XII Championship: Oklahoma Michigan State Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the SEC title game? 42 Tiebreak #2: How many yards passing will Oklahoma's Jason White have against Colorado? 306 Tiebreak #3: How many receiving yards will Toledo's Lance Moore have against Miami of Ohio? 109 Boston College (HarleyQuinn) THURSDAY MAC Championship: Toledo SATURDAY Pittsburgh Miami Louisville Army USC SEC Championship: Auburn California Big XII Championship: Oklahoma Michigan State Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the SEC title game? 48 Tiebreak #2: How many yards passing will Oklahoma's Jason White have against Colorado? 263 Tiebreak #3: How many receiving yards will Toledo's Lance Moore have against Miami of Ohio? 119

Hudson isn't going to be traded before or during the season unless some team makes such an insanely stupid offer that Beane can't pass it up. And the lead candidates are supposedly the Marlins and the Angels??? Yes I'm sure Beane trades his #1 starter to the main competition in the division. Beane loves those first round compesation picks he gets when a free agent leaves the A's and he'll have no problem settling for that after the 2005 season if the A's haven't been able to work out a new contract with Hudson. Really all rumors of Hudson being traded are just wishful thinking by other teams and their fans. Now Barry Zito on the other hand any team could have for the right price.

Texans - 17 pts. Arizona Atlanta Buffalo Carolina Cincinnati NY Jets Chicago New England San Francisco Tennessee Denver Kansas City Philadelphia Washington Jacksonville Dallas

Something to keep in mind going into Saturday: Cal has only a .0013 lead over Texas in the BCS standings.

Part II of Hardball Times World Cup roster projections. This week they do "European powerhouse" the Netherlands, most of the team being from Caribbean, and surprisngly enough they already do the United States. Click the link for the full article. http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/...he-netherlands/ TEAM NETHERLANDS TEAM U.S.A.

From rotoworld.com

Is saying you hate a sport really a confession? It's impossible to like every sport out there even the major ones. Anyways beyond some memorable meltdowns when I was younger after losses by my beloved A's or 49ers I guess a confession would be missing out on my only chance to go to a World Series. My father and I attended Game 3 of the 1989 World Series...yes the earthquake game. I was so traumatized by what happened that I absolutely refused to go to the game when the series continued ten days later and thus missed out on the A's destroying the Giants. Don't know if I'll ever have the opportunity to go to a World Series game again.

Big MAC Picks Minnesota (Vern Gagne) THURSDAY MAC Championship: Toledo vs. Miami of Ohio SATURDAY Pittsburgh at South Florida Virginia Tech at Miami Louisville at Tulane Army vs. Navy USC at UCLA SEC Championship: Tennessee vs. Auburn California at Southern Miss Big XII Championship: Oklahoma vs. Colorado Michigan State at Hawaii Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the SEC title game? 48 Tiebreak #2: How many yards passing will Oklahoma's Jason White have against Colorado?322 Tiebreak #3: How many receiving yards will Toledo's Lance Moore have against Miami of Ohio? 127 Notre Dame (Lando Griffin) THURSDAY MAC Championship: Toledo SATURDAY Pittsburgh Miami Louisville Navy USC SEC Championship: Auburn California Big XII Championship: Oklahoma Michigan State Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the SEC title game? 43 Tiebreak #2: How many yards passing will Oklahoma's Jason White have against Colorado? 244 Tiebreak #3: How many receiving yards will Toledo's Lance Moore have against Miami of Ohio? 89

National television schedule. Tuesday is still too damn early in the week for football even with a great MAC match-up tonight. I know you'll be up Thanksgiving Day to watch that traditional holiday match-up of UConn/Rutgers. One ABC regional game on Saturday and Notre Dame/USC is nationally televised. TUESDAY #25 Bowling Green at Toledo, 7:00/4:00 PM, ESPN2 THURSDAY Connecticut at Rutgers, 10:00/7:00 AM, ESPN2 #23 West Virginia at Pittsburgh, 7:45/4:45 PM, ESPN FRIDAY Colorado at Nebraska, Noon/9:00 AM, ABC #13 LSU at Arkansas, 2:30 PM/11:30 AM, CBS #19 Texas A&M at #5 Texas, 3:30/12:30 PM, ABC #16 Arizona State at Arizona, 4:00/1:00 PM, FSN SATURDAY Memphis at South Florida, 11:00 AM/8:00 AM, ESPN2 Wake Forest at Maryland, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN #17 Virginia at #14 Virginia Tech, 1:00 PM/10:00 AM, ABC* Syracuse at #21 Boston College, 1:00 PM/10:00 AM, ABC* Missouri at Iowa State, 1:00 PM/10:00 AM, ABC* Cincinnati at #10 Louisville, 2:30 PM/11:30 AM, ESPN2 Georgia Tech at #8 Georgia, 3:30/12:30 PM, CBS #22 Oklahoma State at Texas Tech, 3:30/12:30 PM, FSN #7 Boise State at Nevada, 7:45/4:45 PM, ESPN Notre Dame at #1 USC, 8:00/5:00 PM, ABC

No Florida State is going to the Gator Bowl, accepted the invite yesterday. It will be the loser of the Virginia Tech/Miami game going to the Peach Bowl. Here's the updated list of bowl invites accepted: New Orleans: North Texas vs. Southern Miss GMAC: Memphis vs. Bowling Green Continental Tire: North Carolina vs. Boston College Liberty: Louisville vs. Boise State Gator: West Virginia vs. Florida State Champs Sports: Georgia Tech Las Vegas: Wyoming Ft. Worth: Cincinnati Hawaii: UAB Insight: Notre Dame Alamo: Ohio State Houston: UTEP Emerald: Navy Sun: Purdue Peach: Florida Music City: Minnesota Outback: Wisconsin Capital One: Iowa Rose: Michigan