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Week 12 Match-up Breakdowns #2 Minnesota (Vern Gagne, 7-4) vs. Notre Dame (Lando Griffin, 8-3) - GAME OF THE WEEK Min: Clemson, Tulsa, Colorado State, Iowa, Oregon State ND: South Carolina, San Jose State, Air Force, Wisconsin, Oregon Tiebreak Answers: 43/43, 188/158 #1 Virginia (Edwin MacPhisto, 8-3) vs. West Virginia (Loaded Glove, 4-7) #3 Syracuse (Canadian Chris, 9-2) vs. Maryland (MarvinisaLunatic, 7-4) SU: Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Troy, Tulsa, Oregon State MD: Maryland, Clemson, MTS, San Jose State, Oregon Tiebreak Answers: 28/27, 205/180 #4 UCLA (phoenixrising, 6-5) vs. USC (Cartman, 5-6) UCLA: Clemson, Kansas State, Virginia, UAB, Navy, Troy, Missouri, Arkansas, Iowa USC: No point for MD/VT, South Carolina, Iowa State, Army, Rutgers, MTS, Kansas, Mississippi State, Wisconsin Tiebreak Answers: 41/na, 205/na #5 Washington State (bravesfan, 6-5) vs. Miami (Spaceman Spiff, 3-8) Wazzu: No point for MD/VT, Troy, Arkansas, Tulsa, Colorado State, Wisconsin, Oregon State Mia: MTS, Mississippi State, San Jose State, Air Force, Iowa, Oregon Tiebreak Answers: na/55, na/235 #6 Ohio State (Gert T, 6-5) vs. Michigan (Mad Dog, 4-7) OSU: Kansas State, Rutgers, Tulsa, Iowa Mich: Iowa State, Navy, San Jose State, Wisconsin Tiebreak Answers: 44/42, 235/215 #7 Oregon (nogoodnick, 6-5) vs. Tennessee (Kotzenjunge, 3-8) OR: Oregon Ten: Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 31/34, 195/225 #8 LSU (teke184, 8-3) vs. Oklahoma (Damaramu, 4-7) LSU: Clemson, Iowa State OK: South Carolina, Kansas State Tiebreak Answers: 55/35, 175/134 #9 Hawaii (Will Scarlet, 5-6) vs. Arizona State (Spicy McHaggis, 4-7) HI: Kansas, Iowa ASU: No point for MD/VT, Missouri, Wisconsin Tiebreak Answers: 45/na, 150/na #10 Stanford (Bored, 8-3) vs. Boise State (Vern Gagne/*dead team*, 5-6) Stan: Georgia Tech, Oregon BSU: Virginia, Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 41/43, 162/188 Texas (Flyboy, 5-6) vs. Boston College (HarleyQuinn, 5-6) Tex: no point for MD/VT, South Carolina, Kansas State, Virginia, UAB, Kansas, Colorado State, Oregon State, Florida BC: Clemson, Iowa State, Georgia Tech, Army, Missouri, Air Force, Oregon, Florida State Alabama (AlwaysPissedOff, 6-5) vs. Auburn (Agent of Oblivion, 5-6) AL: Iowa State, Michigan, Central Michigan, Alabama, Oregon, Florida Aub: Kansas State, Ohio State, Ball State, Auburn, Oregon State, Florida State Tiebreak Answers: 38/56, 247/221 Penn State (therealworldschampion, 3-8) vs. Michigan State (teke184/*dead team*,4-7) PS: Kansas State, Army, Mississippi State, Air Force, Oregon State MS: Iowa State, UAB, Arkansas, Colorado State, Oregon Tiebreak Answers: 58/55, 210/175 Georgia (A_MikeSC, 9-2) vs. Rutgers (the pinjockey, 4-7) UGA: Kansas State, UAB, Central Michigan, Arkansas, Oregon Rut: Iowa State, Army, Ball State, Mississippi State, Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 50/50, 205/210 Kent State (JHawk, 5-6) vs. Bowling Green (iggymcfly, 7-4) KS: Maryland, South Carolina, Virginia, Ohio State, Ball State, Rutgers, MTS, Wisconsin, Oregon, Florida BG: Virginia Tech, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Central Michigan, Navy, Troy, Iowa, Oregon State, Florida State Tiebreak Answers: 40/36, 200/134 Florida (Agent Bond34, 3-8) vs. Florida State (2GOLD, 4-7) UF: Clemson, Iowa State, Colorado State, Wisconsin FSU: South Carolina, Kansas State, Air Force, Iowa Tiebreak Answers: 62/44, 226/125

Loaded Glove, Cartman, bravesfan, Spicy McHaggis, and Flyboy are all late with their picks. The message board clock is about 20 minutes ahead so Damaramu and Mike both were in time. PM'd Picks LSU/Michigan State (teke184) THURSDAY Maryland at Virginia Tech SATURDAY South Carolina at Clemson Iowa State at Kansas State Virginia at Georgia Tech Michigan at Ohio State UAB at Army Ball State at Central Michigan Rutgers at Navy Middle Tennessee at Troy Kansas at Missouri Arkansas at Mississippi State San Jose State at Tulsa Colorado State at Air Force Auburn at Alabama Wisconsin at Iowa Oregon at Oregon State Florida at Florida State Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Maryland/Virginia Tech Game? 55 Tiebreak #2: How many yards passing with Maryland's Joel Stathan have against Virginia Tech? 175 Minnesota/Boise State (Vern Gagne) THURSDAY Maryland at Virginia Tech SATURDAY South Carolina at Clemson Iowa State at Kansas State Virginia at Georgia Tech Michigan at Ohio State UAB at Army Ball State at Central Michigan Rutgers at Navy Middle Tennessee at Troy Kansas at Missouri Arkansas at Mississippi State San Jose State at Tulsa Colorado State at Air Force Auburn at Alabama Wisconsin at Iowa Oregon at Oregon State Florida at Florida State Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Maryland/Virginia Tech Game?43 Tiebreak #2: How many yards passing will Maryland's Joel Stathan have against Virginia Tech? 188 Alabama (AlwaysPissedOff) Virginia Tech South Carolina Iowa State Virginia Michigan Army Central Michigan Rutgers Troy Arkansas San Jose State Colorado State Alabama Florida Iowa Oregon Missouri TB#1: 38 TB#2: 247

Texans - 24 points Arizona Dallas Denver Detroit Indianapolis Cleveland Pittsburgh San Francisco Buffalo Tennessee Miami San Diego Atlanta Washington Houston New England

Sounds like love to me.

They're pussies.

My picks Virginia Tech Clemson Kansas State Georgia Tech Michigan UAB Central Michigan Navy Troy Missouri Arkansas Tulsa Colorado State Auburn Iowa Oregon Florida State Tiebreak Answers: 41/162

Hmmmm...

Tigers have signed Troy Percival to a two-year, $12 million. Good contract length but waaaaaay too much money for a closer who's best days are far behind him. I'm starting to think the "market correction" of the last two years is over. Not good news for low revenue/cheap ownership teams.

Jim Bowden is back with a vengeance! "Washington-first in war, first in peace, last in the National League"

1. Vladimir Guerrero (21) 2. Gary Sheffield (5) 3. Manny Ramirez (1) 4. David Ortiz (1) 5. Miguel Tejada 6. Johan Santana 7. Ichiro Suzuki 8. Michael Young 9. Mariano Rivera 10. Ivan Rodriguez 11. Curt Schilling 12. Joe Nathan 13. Derek Jeter 14t. Mark Kotsay 14t. Alex Rodriguez 16t. Johnny Damon 16t. Paul Konerko 18t. Hank Blalock 18t. Melvin Mora 18t. Mark Teixeira 21t. Torii Hunter 21t. Victor Martinez 23t. Erubiel Durazo 23t. Francisco Cordero 25t. Lew Ford 25t. Carlos Guillen 25t. Travis Hafner 25t. Hideki Matsui 25t. Chone Figgins 25t. Eric Chavez 31. Jason Varitek Melvin Mora gets just one more vote point than Torii Hunter. Um okay.

Al needs to show some outrage over Bobby Abreu showing up on only two ballots and they were just a 9th and 10th place vote.

http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...topic=45168&hl= And I started the thread! I hate Bonds but there is no legitimate argument for him not winning the MVP this year.

I can't find the complete voting yet (Top 5 went: Bonds, Beltre, Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds) but apparantly one voter voted Bonds 3rd.

I'm gonig to continue to try to keep this from now spreading into four different threads. Here are Dama's last posts in three other threads so please let's reply to them here:

Okay Dama's madness is spreading in multiple threads again and this thread was created to avoid this. I'll get the conversation started back up in here...OKLAHOMA IS TEH SUC!!! Discuss.

The latest from Gammons: Oh that Scott Boras is just wacky I says! So $65 million is how much the Red Sox soul costs... Baseball Primer's Transaction Oracle on the Omar Vizquel signing:

Sorry but Tuesday is just way too early in the week for football. National television schedule for this week. Annoying three time slot, two games for ABC this week. West Coast gets the afternoon Utah game and the rest of the country is split between the two early games. Again this week all discussion of the Oklahoma/Nebraska game should go in the OaO Oklahoma Football Thread. BCS bids on the line this week with Georgia/Auburn and Miami/Virginia. I really have no idea why Boise State/San Jose State is being played at 9 in the morning on the west coast and on national television to boot. Must be some gimmick. TUESDAY Toledo at Northern Illinois, 7:45/4:45 PM, ESPN2 WEDNESDAY TCU at #14 Louisville, 7:00/4:00 PM, ESPN2 THURSDAY #12 Florida State at N.C. State, 7:45/4:45 PM, ESPN FRIDAY Southern Miss at Memphis, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN2 Hawaii at Fresno State, 10:30/7:30 PM, ESPN SATURDAY #23 Boston College at #13 West Virginia, Noon/9:00 AM, ABC* Northwestern at #9 Michigan, Noon/9:00 AM, ABC* #20 Iowa at Minnesota, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN #10 Boise State at San Jose State, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN2 #6 Texas at Kansas, 12:30 PM/9:30 AM, FSN Pittsburgh at #25 Notre Dame, 2:30 PM/11:30 AM, NBC #8 Georgia at #3 Auburn, 3:30/12:30 PM, CBS #17 Miami at #11 Virginia, 3:30/12:30 PM, ABC* #5 Wisconsin at Michigan State, 3:30/12:30 PM, ABC* Texas Tech at #21 Texas A&M, 3:30/12:30 PM ABC* UCLA at Oregon, 3:30/12:30 PM, ABC* Ohio State at Purdue, 3:30/12:30 PM, ESPN #7 Utah at Wyoming, 7:00/4:00 PM, ABC* South Carolina at Florida, 7:00/4:00 PM, ESPN2 Nebraska at #2 Oklahoma, 7:00/4:00 PM, FSN Washington State at #16 Arizona State, 7:00/4:00 PM, TBS Alabama at #19 LSU, 7:45/4:45 PM, ESPN Arizona at #1 USC, 10:15/7:15 PM, FSN

White Sox fans can breath easy...Giants are the winner of throwing away money on Omar Vizquel. http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/7887714 3-years, $12.25 million. Now Vizquel did have a pretty good year last season but at his age committing to a three-year contract to him is fairly stupid. I guess after the horror of having Neifi Perez out there they felt desperate to sign a shortstop.

The conference championship game will typically help you, as long as you win. Last year LSU jumped USC because of playing the SEC title game. Everyone focused on them losing the since thrown away quality win bonus but it was because of playing Georgia a second time that helped LSU's SoS. USC's SoS was actually better than LSU's before the SEC title game.

Oh no he's got a twin now! Anyways those SoS rankings are strictly based on win/loss record. By that method beating Bowling Green is just as good as beating Georgia or Virginia Tech. So let's just say it's a very flawed way to compare schedules. Things will get a bit tighter in those straight up SoS rankings anyways with the remaining schedule of those three teams. BTW since when was the Texas win a road game? The Red River Shootout is a neutral site game. Sure it's in Dallas but the crowd is split 50/50. USC's win over Virginia Tech was more of a road game than that as it was in Landover, MD in front of a partisan Virginia Tech crowd.

Aw dammit I was just going to double check that. I forgot the Top 6 rule was meant to apply to non-BCS conference teams. So okay Texas is the odd team out with Cal and Utah automatically being in. Now I guess they have to hope Michigan doesn't jump them.

The order of choice is Rose, Sugar, Fiesta. The Rose Bowl will take Cal and even if the Sugar takes Miami first the Fiesta is required to take Oklahoma if they are not in the Orange Bowl. It will then bounce back to the Sugar Bowl who would take Texas over Utah and then the Fiesta would have to take Boston College since they have an automatic bid. If Oklahoma goes to the Orange Bowl, the Sugar Bowl would be required to take Auburn with it's pick, then it'd be up to the Fiesta to pick either Utah or Texas. You go to do the math: Eight bids, six conference champs, two at-large teams. Three teams who will not get automatic bids currently are in the top six so that gives you nine teams going for eight spots. Being in the top six does NOT assure a BCS bowl in this current scenerio.

No it doesn't. Look at the automatic bids right now: Pac-10: USC Big XII: Oklahoma SEC: Auburn Big Ten: Michigan ACC: Miami or Virginia Tech Big East: Boston College So that leaves you with the two at-large spots and you currently have three teams in the top six (Cal, Texas, Utah) who would not have automatic bids. If USC does go to the Orange Bowl, we all know Cal will go to the Rose Bowl. Then that leaves one spot left in the BCS between Texas and Utah so one of them will be left out regardless of them being in the top six. If Auburn goes the Orange Bowl and Oklahoma goes to the Fiesta Bowl, the Sugar Bowl will almost assuredly take Texas over Utah. If Oklahoma goes to the Orange Bowl and Auburn goes to the Sugar Bowl then the chances are better for Utah since the Fiesta Bowl has showed a lot of interest. Basically if your Utah you need to root for A&M to beat Texas and/or Oklahoma to hold to the #2 spot.

Yes they were #25 in the Coaches poll, unranked in the AP, and unranked in the BCS which is the only rankings that matter. They'll be unranked in all polls this upcoming week. It's like claiming Ohio State as a Top 25 team. On an unrelated note if USC vs. Auburn is the Orange Bowl match-up and that other team then has to go to the Fiesta Bowl, Utah will not be going to a BCS bowl. The reason why is that would leave the Sugar Bowl with an open spot and they would take Texas over Utah. Even if it's USC vs. that other team there is no guarentee that the Fiesta Bowl would still take Utah. Texas is a very big draw and they're fans travel very well. Utah needs A&M to beat Texas in two weeks or I think they will end up in the Liberty Bowl which as I mentioned earlier in the day would be a tougher match-up for them in Louisville than if they ended up playing Boston College.

Five teams? You sure about that? You might want to take another look. Edited.