Bored

Just a note that there are games on Tuesday and Wendesday next week but I've decided to skip them and just go with the regular Thursday deadline for the remainder of the season. Week 9 Final Results #9 Oregon (nogoodnick) 12, #1 Virginia (Edwin MacPhisto) 11 #2 Minnesota (Vern Gagne) 14, Auburn (Agent of Oblivion) 11 #3 Washington State (bravesfan) 13, USC (Cartman) 11 Penn State (therealworldschampion) 13, #4 Ohio State (Gert T) 12 Rutgers (the pinjockey) 12, #5 West Virginia (Loaded Glove) 10 Kent State (JHawk) 13, #6 Notre Dame (Lando Griffin) 9 #7 UCLA (phoenixrising) 12, Stanford (Bored) 12; UCLA wins by tiebreak #8 Syracuse (Canadian Chris) 13, Oklahoma (Damaramu) 11 Boise State (Vern Gagne/*dead team*) 14, #10 Hawaii (Will Scarlet) 11 LSU (teke184) 12, Texas (Flyboy) 12; LSU wins by tiebreak Arizona State (Spicy McHaggis) 10, Alabama (AlwaysPissedOff) 8 Maryland (MarvinisaLunatic) 15, Florida State (2GOLD) 13 Georgia (A_MikeSC) 10, Florida (Agent Bond34) 8 Boston College (HarleyQuinn) 12, Miami (Spaceman Spiff) 10 Michigan State (Dangerous A) 11, Michigan (Mad Dog) 9 Bowling Green (iggymcfly) 11, Tennessee (Kotzenjunge) 0; Tennessee forfeits Conference Standings (conference record, overall record) Pac-8 1. UCLA (4-0, 5-4) 2. Oregon (3-2, 6-3) 3. Stanford (2-2, 7-2) 3. Washington State (2-2, 5-4) 3. Boise State (2-2, 3-6) 6. Hawaii (2-3, 3-6) 7. USC (1-3, 4-5) 7. Arizona State (1-3, 3-6) Big MAC 1. Bowling Green (3-0, 7-2) 2. Notre Dame (4-1, 7-2) 3. Minnesota (2-1, 5-4) 3. Kent State (2-1, 4-5) 5. Michigan State (3-2, 4-5) 6. Ohio State (1-3, 5-4) 6. Penn State (1-3, 3-6) 8. Michigan (0-4, 2-7) Mid South 1. Georgia (4-1, 8-1) 1. LSU (4-1, 7-2) 1. Auburn (4-1, 5-4) 4. Alabama (2-1, 4-5) 5. Texas (2-2, 4-5) 6. Florida (1-4, 2-7) 6. Tennessee (1-4, 2-7) 8. Oklahoma (0-4, 3-6) Big Atlantic 1. Syracuse (3-1, 7-2) 1. Maryland (3-1, 6-3) 1. Boston College (3-1, 4-5) 4. Miami (2-2, 3-6) 4. Rutgers (2-2, 3-6) 6. Virginia (1-2, 6-3) 7. West Virginia (1-3, 4-5) 8. Florida State (1-4, 3-6)

It wouldn't be an offseason without Peter Gammons' rumors: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=1912558

NBC has to be happy with the Florida State loss as that likely kills their BCS chances and knocks them into a big ratings Gator Bowl against Notre Dame. The Gator Bowl is the only bowl game NBC has and since the Big East is so terrible this year it's likely Notre Dame will be chosen over any Big East team for their #2 slot.

Additional match-ups decided by Ohio/Kent State and Florida/Georgia: Arizona State (Spicy McHaggis) def. Alabama (AlwaysPissedOff); Spicy holds tiebreak Georgia (A_MikeSC) def. Florida (Agent Bond34) Three games left tonight and four match-ups to be decided.

Okay maybe not so fast, Michigan recovers an onside kick and Braylon Edwards makes a crazy touchdown catch and Michigan pulls within 7 with 6:12 to go.

Looks like Michigan State is going to solve a big headache for the Big Ten and upset Michigan. Florida State pulls within three of Maryland with under eight minutes to go.

Bunch of games just ended so here are the match-ups decided so far today: Bowling Green (iggymcfly) def. Tennessee (Kotzenjunge) by forfeit #9 Oregon (nogoodnick) def. #1 Virignia (Edwin MacPhisto) Boise State (Vern Gagne/*dead team*) def. #10 Hawaii (Will Scarlet) #2 Minnesota (Vern Gagne) def. Auburn (Agent of Oblivion) Rutgers (the pinjockey) def. #5 West Virginia (Loaded Glove); pinjockey holds tiebreak Kent State (JHawk) def. #6 Notre Dame (Lando Griffin) #8 Syracuse (Canadian Chris) def. Oklahoma (Damaramu); Chris holds tiebreak Maryland (MarvinisaLunatic) def. Florida State (2GOLD) Boston College (HarleyQuinn) def. Miami (Spaceman Spiff) Michigan State (Dangerous A) def. Michigan (Mad Dog); A holds tiebreak

If you search through a couple of the early season TWiCF threads we went over Baylor's placement in the Big XII. Indiana upsets Minnesota 30-21. Michigan and Florida State are both losing at halftime. Score updates for the many non-t.v. games in the pick 'em contest this week: Syracuse 42, Connecticut 30 Final Central Michigan 24, Western Michigan 21 Final OT Iowa State 13, Kansas 7 Final Mississippi State 22, Kentucky 7 Final Wyoming 29, Air Force 6 4th New Mexico 23, Colorado State 14 4th Cincinnati 21, TCU 10 4th East Carolina 24, Army 14 4th Middle Tennessee State 21, Utah State 0 Final Kent State 28, Ohio 10 Half

I thought he had to go to work.... Anyways score updates for the many non-t.v. games in the pick 'em contest this week: Syracuse 42, Connecticut 30 Final Central Michigan 24, Western Michigan 21 Final OT Iowa State 13, Kansas 7 Final Mississippi State 15, Kentucky 7 4th Wyoming 19, Air Force 6 3rd New Mexico 16, Colorado State 7 3rd Cincinnati 21, TCU 7 3rd Army 14, East Carolina 10 3rd Middle Tennessee State 21, Utah State 0 3rd Kent State 21, Ohio 10 2nd

Oh shit I completely forgot. Well now I'm going to put my division lead in jeopardy unless I get the fluke win.

Yup this thread was perfectly fine for a couple of games but it degenerated into the usual crap. There really needs to be a OaO Red Sox/Yankees Offseason Thread.

Purdue's season has fallen apart as they lose their third straight, this time to Northwestern 13-10. Kyle Orton was apparantly benched late in the game. Nebraska now emerges as the favorite in the pathetic Big XII North as they are up 24-3 late against Missouri.

Hey you wanna create a OaO thread for the remainder of this game? I only didn't create one because you said you wouldn't be here.

A's Free Agents: Jermaine Dye - they had a mutual option of $14 million on him and no shock at all they didn't pick it up. With Nick Swisher waiting in the wings there's little chance the A's would bring him back. I expect him to end up with the Giants. Damian Miller - I think the A's were really happy with him last year and would like to bring him back. But they have to rest him more early in the season as he just hit a wall the last two months of the season. I expect him to be back. Chris Hammond - Had an okay year as a two to three inning guy. No real idea if the A's will bring him back. Jim Mecir, Mark McLemore - both retiring. Arb Eligible Erubial Durazo - there is little doubt in my mind Beane will try to ink him to a long term deal. He was the A's best offensive player over the entire season last year. He hasn't provided the power they expected when they traded for him but he is a very good hitter. On a related note I think they will trade Scott Hatteberg and have Dan Johnson take over first. Octavio Dotel - not expecting a long term deal here, or necesarrily wanting one, but I think he'll be back unless Beane has another idea at closer. After the Arthur Rhodes debacle I think Beane will be less likely to take a chance at closer and just bring Dotel back on a one-year deal. Chad Bradford - really struggled this year and has become a ROOGY. Macha and A's fans were deathly afraid to see him against lefties the last two years. He'll be cheap so he might be back unless they think he's declined too much to be useful anymore. I think Eric Byrnes might be arb eligible but don't officially know if that's true. Possible contract extension Tim Hudson - This is really the A's #1 priority this offseason as he's a free agent after next year. With the struggles of Zito and now the huge questions about Mark Mulder after his collapse at the end of the season Hudson seems to be the one of the TAFKA Big Three that the A's will make a real effort to keep. Problem is of course, as always, is ownership. Steve Schott might use not making the playoffs as a reason to be even cheaper than normal as he lost out on a chance to gouge his fans on ALDS tickets and get his precious postseason revenue. Really it all is in his hands if Beane can sign Hudson to a long term deal unless Hudson makes some outrageous demands. I think $12-13 million a year is likely.

I'm going out on a huge limb here and saying Stanford will lose in the 2nd round of the tournament. Although this year it wouldn't be necessarily be a choke as they obviously won't match their 30-2 record of last year.

It's looking like you will. Kotz hasn't posted on the board for 10 days.

Wow, complete 4th quarter collapse by Georgia Tech. Terrible call though on the interception return for the touchdown. That being said Reggie Ball wasn't showing anything to indicate he would have been able to lead them down the field to tie the game if a touchback had been called. After losing P.J. Daniels you had a feeling they wouldn't be able to hang on to the lead.

Week 9 Match-up Breakdowns #1 Virginia (Edwin MacPhisto, 6-2) vs. #9 Oregon (nogoodnick, 5-3) - GAME OF THE WEEK UVA: Georgia Tech, Missouri, Western Michigan, Wyoming, Tulsa OR: Virginia Tech, Nebraska, Central Michigan, Air Force, Rice Tiebreak Answers: 86/75, 115/80 #2 Minnesota (Vern Gagne, 4-4) vs. Auburn (Agent of Oblivion, 5-3) Min: Virginia Tech, Kansas, Colorado State, Cincinnati, MTS, Wyoming, Tulsa Aub: Georgia Tech, Iowa State, New Mexico, TCU, Utah State, Air Force, Rice Tiebreak Answers: 75/38, 87/134 #3 Washington State (bravesfan, 4-4) vs. USC (Cartman, 4-4) Wazzu: N.C. State, New Mexico, Cincinnati, Wyoming, Rice, Ohio, Texas Tech, Oregon State USC: Clemson, Colorado State, TCU, Air Force, Tulsa, Kent State, Kansas State, Arizona Tiebreak Answers: 75/41, 76/124 #4 Ohio State (Gert T, 5-3) vs. Penn State (therealworldschampion, 2-6) OSU: Clemson, Syracuse, Colorado State, East Carolina, Air Force, Kansas State, Arizona PS: N.C. State, Connecticut, New Mexico, Army, Wyoming, Texas Tech, Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 72/69, 145/97 #5 West Virginia (Loaded Glove, 4-4) vs. Rutgers (the pinjockey, 2-6) WV: Kansas, East Carolina, Air Force, Ohio Rut: Iowa State, Army, Wyoming, Kent State Tiebreak Answers: 50/60, 111/80 #6 Notre Dame (Lando Griffin, 7-1) vs. Kent State (JHawk, 3-5) ND: N.C. State, Central Michigan, Colorado State, Army, Utah State, Air Force, Ohio, Texas Tech, Oregon State KS: Clemson, Western Michigan, New Mexico, East Carolina, MTS, Wyoming, Kent State, Kansas State, Arizona Tiebreak Answers: 67/52, 95/94 #7 UCLA (phoenixrising, 4-4) vs. Stanford (Bored, 7-1) UCLA: Virginia Tech, Western Michigan, Connecticut, New Mexico, TCU, Utah State, Kent State, Texas Tech Stan: Georgia Tech, Central Michigan, Syracuse, Colorado State, Cincinnati, MTS, Ohio, Kansas State Tiebreak Answers: 73/69, 110/106 #8 Syracuse (Canadian Chris, 6-2) vs. Oklahoma (Damaramu, 3-5) SU: Clemson, Colorado State, Cincinnati, Wyoming, Ohio, Texas Tech OK: N.C. State, New Mexico, TCU, Air Force, Kent State, Kansas State Tiebreak Answers: 57/52, 85/146 #10 Hawaii (Will Scarlet, 3-5) vs. Boise State (Vern Gagne/*dead team*, 2-6) HI: N.C. State, Connecticut, Rice BS: Clemson, Syracuse, Tulsa Tiebreak Answers: 45/75, 100/87 LSU (teke184, 6-2) vs. Texas (Flyboy, 4-4) LSU: Nebraska, Connecticut, Kansas, Texas Tech Tex: Missouri, Syracuse, Iowa State, Kansas State Tiebreak Answers: 75/65, 70/99 Alabama (AlwaysPissedOff, 4-4) vs. Arizona State (Spicy McHaggis, 2-6) Ala: Colorado State, Florida, Arizona ASU: No point for VT/GT game, New Mexico, Georgia, Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 46/62, 73/NA Maryland (MarvinisaLunatic, 5-3) vs. Florida State (2GOLD, 3-5) MD: Purdue, Nebraska, Syracuse, Iowa State, Mississippi State, New Mexico, TCU, Wyoming, Ohio, Arizona FSU: Northwestern, Missouri, Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky, Colorado State, Cincinnati, Air Force, Kent State, Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 44/48, 100/112 Florida (Agent Bond34, 2-6) vs. Georgia (A_MikeSC, 7-1) UF: Oklahoma State, Nebraska, Central Michigan, Air Force, Florida, Ohio UGA: Oklahoma, Missouri, Western Michigan, Wyoming, Georgia, Kent State Tiebreak Answers: 64/70, 72/100 Miami (Spaceman Spiff, 3-5) vs. Boston College (HarleyQuinn, 3-5) Mia: Boise State, N.C. State, Missouri, Iowa State, Colorado State, East Carolina, TCU, Air Force BC: Hawaii, Clemson, Nebraska, Kansas, New Mexico, Army, Cincinnati, Wyoming Tiebreak Answers: 49/40, 115/96 Michigan (Mad Dog, 2-6) vs. Michigan State (Dangerous A, 3-5) Mich: Oklahoma State, N.C. State, Kansas, Army, MTS, Wyoming, Rice, Oregon State MS: Oklahoma, Clemson, Iowa State, East Carolina, Utah State, Air Force, Tulsa, Arizona Tiebreak Answers: 54/74, 91/95 Tennessee (Kotzenjunge, 2-6) vs. Bowling Green (iggymcfly, 6-2)

You're all a bunch of pussies! I thought it was time to turn up the difficulty of this but maybe I'll ligten it a little next week since so many of you have complained. Anyone actually like all these low level games being throw in? I do want to have at least one game from every conference each week on the pick 'em schedule, yes even the Sun Belt. Spicy McHaggis and Kotzenjunge are both late with their picks. Here are the PM'd picks: LSU (teke184) THURSDAY Virginia Tech at Georgia Tech FRIDAY Hawaii at Boise State SATURDAY Oklahoma at Oklahoma State N.C. State at Clemson Purdue at Northwestern Missouri at Nebraska Western Michigan at Central Michigan Connecticut at Syracuse Kansas at Iowa State Kentucky at Mississippi State New Mexico at Colorado State Army at East Carolina TCU at Cincinnati Utah State at Middle Tennessee State Air Force at Wyoming Rice at Tulsa Florida vs. Georgia Ohio at Kent State Texas Tech at Kansas State Oregon State at Arizona Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Hawaii/Boise State game? 75 Tiebreak #2: How many rushing yards will Georgia Tech's P.J. Daniels have against Virginia Tech? 70 Hawaii (Will Scarlet) THURSDAY Virginia Tech FRIDAY Boise State SATURDAY Oklahoma N.C. State Purdue Nebraska Central Michigan Connecticut Kansas Mississippi State Colorado State Army Cincinnati Middle Tennessee State Wyoming Rice Georgia Ohio Kansas State Oregon State Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Hawaii/Boise State game? 45 Tiebreak #2: How many rushing yards will Georgia Tech's P.J. Daniels have against Virginia Tech? 100 Minnesota/Boise State (Vern Gagne) THURSDAY Virginia Tech at Georgia Tech FRIDAY Hawaii at Boise State SATURDAY Oklahoma at Oklahoma State N.C. State at Clemson Purdue at Northwestern Missouri at Nebraska Western Michigan at Central Michigan Connecticut at Syracuse Kansas at Iowa State Kentucky at Mississippi State New Mexico at Colorado State Army at East Carolina TCU at Cincinnati Utah State at Middle Tennessee State Air Force at Wyoming Rice at Tulsa Florida vs. Georgia Ohio at Kent State Texas Tech at Kansas State Oregon State at Arizona Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Hawaii/Boise State game?75 Tiebreak #2: How many rushing yards will Georgia Tech's P.J. Daniels have against Virginia Tech? 87 Syracuse (CanadianChris) THURSDAY Virginia Tech FRIDAY Boise State SATURDAY Oklahoma Clemson Purdue Missouri Central Michigan Connecticut Kansas Mississippi State Colorado State Army Cincinnati Middle Tennessee State Wyoming Tulsa Georgia Ohio Texas Tech Oregon State TB1: 57 TB2: 85 Washington State (bravesfan) THURSDAY Virginia Tech FRIDAY Boise State (I despise this pick, but I can’t see Hawaii getting the upset on the smurf turf.) SATURDAY Oklahoma N.C. State Purdue Nebraska Central Michigan Connecticut Kansas Mississippi State New Mexico Army Cincinnati Middle Tennessee State Wyoming Rice Georgia Ohio Texas Tech Oregon State Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Hawaii/Boise State game? 75 Tiebreak #2: How many rushing yards will Georgia Tech's P.J. Daniels have against Virginia Tech? 76 Alabama (AlwaysPissedOff) Virginia Tech Boise State Oklahoma North Carolina State Purdue Missouri Central Michigan UConn Iowa State Mississippi State Colorado State Army TCU Utah State Air Force Tulsa Florida Ohio Texas Tech Arizona TB #1: 46 TB #2: 73

If the game was in Tempe it'd be on there but with the game in Berkley I didn't think many would bite on the upset. Lots of people coming in late this week it appears. I probably won't post the PM'd picks until tonight.

My picks Georgia Tech Boise State Oklahoma N.C. State Purdue Nebraska Central Michigan Syracuse Kansas Mississippi State Colorado State Army Cincinnati Middle Tennessee State Wyoming Tulsa Georgia Ohio Kansas State Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 69/106

Oh please Al we all know it was the INTAGIBLES~ of Orlando Cabrera that won it for them. I'm sure someone will find some moment in the playoffs where the Red Sox played "small ball" and give all the credit to that. Anyways I'd like to challenge White Sox fans to start martyring themselves like Red Sox fans have for the last 80+ years. Hell they have an obvious "curse" from the 1919 Black Sox and they already had gone one year longer than the Red Sox since winning a world title.

Yup, there's going to be a OaO thread for Oklahoma/Oklahoma State.

This is something I've been meaning to put together to just rank players position-by-position on how they performed in the 2004 season. I take 30 players at each position who made the most starts at that position in 2004 so there can be one more than one player from one team at a position. I use OPS, VORP, Equivalent Average, Runs Created, and Win Shares to rank the players. I've only finished doing catchers so far. Catcher 1. Ivan Rodriguez, Tigers 2. Javy Lopez, Orioles 3. Jorge Posada, Yankees 4. Victor Martinez, Indians 5. Jason Varitek, Red Sox 6. Jason Kendall, Pirates 7. Johnny Estrada, Braves 8. Michael Barrett, Cubs 9. Paul Lo Duca, Dodgers/Marlins 10. Ramon Hernandez, Padres 11. Jason LaRue, Reds 12. Damian Miller, A's 13. Mike Lieberthal, Phillies 14. A.J. Pierzynski, Giants 15. Gregg Zaun, Blue Jays 16. Brian Schneider, Expos 17. Charles Johnson, Rockies 18. Bengie Molina, Angels 19. Rod Barajas, Rangers 20. Miguel Olivo, White Sox/Mariners 21. Toby Hall, Devil Rays 22. Mike Matheny, Cardinals 23. Mike Redmond, Marlins 24. John Buck, Royals 25. Dan Wilson, Mariners 26. Brad Ausmus, Astros 27. Jason Phillips, Mets 28. Gary Bennett, Brewers 29. Henry Blanco, Twins 30. Chad Moeller, Brewers