Bored

AlwaysPissedOff (Alabama) is late with their picks although still have a couple of days to get them in before a forfeit.

National television schedule for this week. Only one regional timeslot for ABC. I'm not going to try to figure out if everyone actually can see every FSN game listed. No real marquee match-up this week (Iowa/Michigan probably would have been it but both are limping into this one) but we are starting to get into regular conference play. THURSDAY #4 Miami at Houston, 7:45/4:45 PM, ESPN FRIDAY Bowling Green at Northern Illinois, 7:00/4:00 PM, ESPN2 BYU at #21 Boise State, 10:00/7:00 PM, ESPN SATURDAY N.C. State at Virgina Tech, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN Kentucky at #16 Florida, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN2 Boston College at Wake Forest, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN2 (regional?) Washington at Notre Dame, 3:30/12:30 PM, NBC Iowa at #18 Michigan, 3:30/12:30 PM, ABC* Clemson at #8 Florida State, 3:30/12:30 PM, ABC* Washington State at Arizona, 3:30/12:30 PM, ABC* Alabama at Arkansas, 3:30/12:30 PM, CBS Texas Tech at Kansas, 3:30/12:30 PM, FSN Penn State at #20 Wisconsin, 5:45/2:45 PM, ESPN #1 USC at Stanford, 7:00/4:00 PM, TBS Rice at #5 Texas, 7:00/4:00 PM, FSN Northwestern at #19 Minnesota, 9:00/6:00 PM, ESPN2 Oregon State at #22 Arizona State, 10:15/7:15 PM, FSN (local only?)

PM'd picks LSU (teke184) WEDNESDAY Miami of Ohio at Marshall THURSDAY Pittsburgh at Connecticut Navy at Air Force FRIDAY Utah at New Mexico SATURDAY Arkansas at Florida West Virginia at Virginia Tech North Carolina at Florida State Texas Tech at Oklahoma Purdue at Notre Dame Miami at Georgia Tech Michigan at Indiana Colorado at Missouri LSU at Georgia California at Oregon State South Carolina at Alabama Kansas State at Texas A&M Auburn at Tennessee Ohio State at Northwestern Arizona State at Oregon Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Utah/New Mexico game? 50 Tiebreak #2: How many yards passing with UConn's Dan Orlovsky have against Pittsburgh? 252 Hawaii (Will Scarlet) WEDNESDAY Marshall THURSDAY Connecticut Navy FRIDAY Utah SATURDAY Florida West Virginia Florida State Oklahoma Purdue Miami Michigan Colorado Georgia California South Carolina Kansas State Tennessee Ohio State Arizona State Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Utah/New Mexico game? 38 Tiebreak #2: How many yards passing with UConn's Dan Orlovsky have against Pittsburgh? 250 Minnesota & Boise State (Vern Gagne) WEDNESDAY Miami of Ohio at Marshall THURSDAY Pittsburgh at Connecticut Navy at Air Force FRIDAY Utah at New Mexico SATURDAY Arkansas at Florida West Virginia at Virginia Tech North Carolina at Florida State Texas Tech at Oklahoma Purdue at Notre Dame Miami at Georgia Tech Michigan at Indiana Colorado at Missouri LSU at Georgia California at Oregon State South Carolina at Alabama Kansas State at Texas A&M Auburn at Tennessee Ohio State at Northwestern Arizona State at Oregon Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Utah/New Mexico game?45 Tiebreak #2: How many yards passing with UConn's Dan Orlovsky have against Pittsburgh? 315 Ohio State (Gert T) WEDNESDAY Miami of Ohio at Marshall - Marshall THURSDAY Pittsburgh at Connecticut - UConn Navy at Air Force - Air Force FRIDAY Utah at New Mexico - Utah SATURDAY Arkansas at Florida - Florida West Virginia at Virginia Tech - Virginia Tech North Carolina at Florida State - Florida State Texas Tech at Oklahoma - Oklahoma Purdue at Notre Dame - Purdue Miami at Georgia Tech - Miami Michigan at Indiana - Michigan Colorado at Missouri - Colorado LSU at Georgia - Georgia California at Oregon State - California South Carolina at Alabama - Alabama Kansas State at Texas A&M - Texas A&M Auburn at Tennessee - Tennessee Ohio State at Northwestern - Ohio State Arizona State at Oregon - Arizona State Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Utah/New Mexico game? 50 Tiebreak #2: How many yards passing with UConn's Dan Orlovsky have against Pittsburgh? 300

Tim Hudson is getting shelled tonight so it's looking like it's going to be a tie in the West. Just for more salt in the wound I see the Assholes by the Bay are going to tie up the Cubs in the Wild Card. Just wonderful. I hate baseball. So much for hoping the A's would clinch on Friday night when I'm at the game. They'd need to win the next two and the Angels to lose the next two for that to happen. Hopefully I won't be there to see their season end.

My picks Marshall Connecticut Air Force Utah Florida Virgina Tech Florida State Oklahoma Notre Dame Miami Michigan Missouri Georgia California South Carolina Texas A&M Tennessee Ohio State Arizona State Tiebreaker Answers: 48, 236

Vern Gagne has volunteerd to take over Boise State. Remember I'll just be using the same picks he uses for Minnesota. He PM'd them so they'll be up when I post the PM'd picks.

Thank you Bob Melvin for intentionally walking the bases loaded with one out. A's win 6-5 and advert this game being known forver as "The Willie Bllomquist Game" among A's fans.

Wilie Bloomquist just hit a three-run homer to tie up the game. WILLIE BLOOMQUIST That might be the water shed moment for the A's meltdown of this season right there.

A's have a 5-2 lead heading to the 7th but they've had plenty of chances to make this game a blow out. I'm not overly concerned about the Angels coming back to win tonight (as long as the A's win tonight) but the Rangers better win tommorrow. If they lose they'd be pretty much done and I'm worried about them tanking the final two games of the series.

Sorry Mike even if it was an hour later I don't allow people to change their picks so you'll stick with Alabama. Have to have the same rules for everyone.

Holy shit that came out left field. Congrats to Conan although I can't help but wonder how much his show is going to be watered down.

Idaho plays at Hawaii this year and teams that play a road game against Hawaii are allowed to schedule an extra non-conference game. I personally hated the 12 game schedule they went to the previous couple of years because of the 6-6 teams being able to go to bowl games.

Okay the A's officially want to choke before the playoffs apparantly. FUCK THIS SHIT!!!! They absolutely have to win the next three games. They have Redman with his home ERA over 7 pitching Thursday and Mark "nothing is wrong with me" Mulder on Friday. The A's don't have the offesne to overcome those two pieces of shit right now. Oh well I wasn't looking forward to spending $35 on bleacher seats for the division series. Fucking price gouging mother fucking A's owners. *AS like rant over*

If Joe Blanton isn't starting for Mulder when I'm at the game Friday I'm going to be severly dissapointed.

Mulder is just horrible on every level. He is DONE. If the A's don't win the division his complete collapse will be the main reason.

Macha better have a quick hook on Mulder tonight. The man has nothing left. He shouldn't be in the postseason rotation, if they get there.

The San Francisco 49ers are now on the clock....

I'll echo the improvement of the Pac-10 this year. Just so much deeper this year and USC really lucks out getting both Cal and ASU at home. Washington appears to be the only truly bad team in the conference (although I'm not very impressed with UCLA either) which is amazing when you consider they were the one consistent winner in the Pac-10 during the 90's and early part of this decade. That program has just fallen apart since the whole Rick Neuheisal fiasco. Now as I say that watch Stanford completely lay an egg against them next week.

If the fucking Cubs let the Assholes by the Bay into the playoffs I will curse them to never winning a World Series again! Oh wait. Mariners hammer the Rangers 9-0 today. If the A's win tonight they'll have division almost locked up. Lose and it gets really dicey going into the final week. I have tickets to Friday night's series opener against the Angels.

Before I post the match-up breakdowns as I alluded to in the pick thread I want to present two ideas to you guys on how I should handle dead teams. It appears Boise State will forfeit for a second straight week and effectively end any chance of anyone taking over that team winning the contest so I will declare it dead. I do not want forfeits for the rest of the year for Boise State so here are my two ideas: Idea #1: I will have Boise State (or any other dead team) pick the favorites for each game based on the point spread. Idea #2: I will let someone already in the contest volunteer (it would be first come, first serve although not until I make a decision on which idea I use) to take over Boise State. It can not be anyone still on Boise State's schedule and they would have to make the same picks for Boise that they make for their own team. For either idea Boise State will be on "probation" and can not participate in the Pac-8 Conference Championship or any bowl game. Let me know what idea you guy's prefer and I'll make a decision on it this weekend. Week 4 Match-up Breakdowns #2 Ohio State (Gert T, 3-0) vs. #5 Alabama (AlwaysPissedOff, 2-1) – GAME OF THE WEEK Differing Picks OSU: Boise State, Arkansas Ala: BYU, Alabama Tiebreak Answers: 59/36, 205/289 #1 Virginia (Edwin MacPhisto, 2-1) vs. #8 Syracuse (Canadian Chris, 2-1) Differing Picks UVA: Boston College, Arizona State SU: Wake Forest, Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 65/55, 198/338 #3 Hawaii (Will Scarlet, 2-1) vs. Washington State (bravesfan, 3-0) Differing Picks HI: Virginia Tech Wazzu: N.C. State Tiebreak Answers: 42/55, 190/325 #4 Notre Dame (Lando Griffin, 3-0) vs. Penn State (therealworldschampion, 2-1) Differing Picks ND: Arizona State PS: Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 52/58, 260/253 #6 Miami (Spaceman Spiff, 2-1) vs. Bowling Green (iggymcfly, 1-2) Differing Picks Mia: Washington, Arizona, Alabama, Kansas BG: Notre Dame, Washington State, Arkansas, Texas Tech Tiebreak Answers: 48/51, 230/250 #7 Auburn (Agent of Oblivion, 2-1) vs. Oregon (nogoodnick, 1-2) Differing Picks Aub: Boston College, Clemson, Oregon State Ore: Wake Forest, Florida State, Arizona State Tiebreak Answers: 41/45, 236/189 #9 Oklahoma (Damaramu, 3-0) vs. Florida (Agent Bond34, 0-3) Differing Picks OK: Bowling Green UF: Northern Illinois Tiebreak Answers: 42/43, 168/266 #10 Kent State (JHawk, 1-2) vs. LSU (teke184, 2-1) Differing Picks KS: Houston, Northern Illinois, N.C. State, Wake Forest, Arizona, Kansas, Stanford LSU: Miami, Bowling Green, Virginia Tech, Boston College, Washington State, Texas Tech, USC Tiebreak Answers: 64/51, 292/190 Stanford (Bored, 3-0) vs. USC (Cartman, 1-2) Differing Picks Stan: Bowling Green, Wake Forest, Michigan, Arizona, Arkansas, Texas Tech USC: Northern Illinois, Boston Colllege, Iowa, Washington State, Alabama, Kansas Tiebreak Answers: 52/49, 190/280 Minnesota (Vern Gagne, 1-2) vs. Boise State (???, 0-3) Tennessee (Kotzenjunge, 1-2) vs. Boston College (HarleyQuinn, 1-2) Differing Picks Ten: Bowling Green, Boise State, Florida State, Iowa BC: Northern Illinois, BYU, Clemson, Michigan Tiebreak Answers: 38/37, 280/329 Arizona State (Spicy McHaggis, 1-2) vs. Rutgers (the pinjockey, 0-3) Differing Picks ASU: Bowling Green, Virginia Tech, Arizona, Arkansas Rut: Northern Illinois, N.C. State, Washington State, Alabama Tiebreak Answers: 38/40, 271/240 Texas (Flyboy, 1-2) vs. Florida State (2GOLD, 1-2) Differing Picks Tex: Virginia Tech, Arizona, Wisconsin, Arizona State FSU: N.C. State, Washington State, Penn State, Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 43/45, 275/286 Michigan (Mad Dog, 1-2) vs. Maryland (MarvinisaLunatic, 2-1) Differing Picks Mich: Iowa, Oregon State MD: Michigan, Arizona State Tiebreak Answers: 63/31, 236/264 Michigan State (Dangerous A, 1-2) vs. West Virginia (Loaded Glove, 1-2) Differing Picks MS: Virginia Tech, Arizona, Alabama, Wisconsin, Northwestern WV: N.C. State, Washington State, Arkansas, Penn State, Minnesota Tiebreak Answers: 67/27, 220/275 UCLA (phoenixrising, 0-3) vs. Georgia (A_MikeSC, 2-1) Differing Picks UCLA: Boston College, Arizona, Arizona State UGA: Wake Forest, Washington State, Oregon State Tiebreak Answers: 66/55, 275/170

Well since no one seems to be that mad about the rankings, and maybe even like them in a perverse sense, I guess I'll stick with the rankings but here were the three alternative ideas: Win/loss record (.50) + total pick pct. (.25) + strength of schedule (.25) = 1. Ohio State 2. Washington State 3. Virginia 4. Syracuse 5. Minnesota 6. Hawaii 7. Notre Dame 8. Stanford 9. Auburn 10. Oklahoma Win/loss record (.70) + total pick pct. (.20) + strength of schedule (.10) = 1. Ohio State 2. Washington State 3. Stanford 4. Notre Dame 5. Syracuse 6. Oklahoma 7. Virginia 8. LSU 9. Hawaii 10. Minnesota Or a "super poll" which would take the two above formulas and and the current formula and combine them. 1. Ohio State 2. Washington State 3. Virginia 4. Syracuse 5. Minnesota 6. Notre Dame 7. Hawaii 8. Stanford 9. Oklahoma 10. Auburn

Hmmm, maybe I'm just an evil genius? Trust me 2GOLD you don't want to see your ranking.

You people thought you were pissed last week? BCS Top 10 thru Week 4 1. Virginia - Edwin MacPhisto 5.00 (10/4/1) 2. Minnesota - Vern Gagne 6.33 (10/8/1) 3. Ohio State - Gert T 6.67 (1/1/18) 4. Syracuse - Canadian Chris 7.33 (5/8/9) 5. Hawaii - Will Scarlet 7.33 (10/3/9) 6. Washington State - bravesfan 7.67 (1/4/18) 7. Auburn - Agent of Oblivion 8.33 (10/8/7) 8. Oregon - nogoodnick 9.00 (10/8/9) 9. Oklahoma - Damaramu 10.33 (5/2/24) 10. Notre Dame - Lando Griffin 10.67 (1/7/24) Okay, I'll think about changing the formula if there is enough outrage over this. If a change is made those rankings won't go into effect until next week because I need to the Week 5 thread up ASAP since there is a Wednesday game this week. IF a change is wanted I have three ideas already in mind so no suggestions are needed.

Week 4 Results #2 Ohio State (Gert T) 13, #5 Alabama (AlwaysPissedOff) 11 #8 Syracuse (CanadianChris) 13, #1 Virginia (Edwin MacPhisto) 13; Syracuse wins by tiebreak Washington State (bravesfan) 14, #3 Hawaii (Will Scarlet) 13 #4 Notre Dame (Lando Griffin) 12, Penn State (therealworldschampion) 11 Bowling Green (iggymcfly) 13, #6 Miami (Spaceman Spiff) 9 Oregon (nogoodnick) 15, #7 Auburn (Agent of Oblivion) 12 Florida (Agent Bond34) 13, #9 Oklahoma (Damaramu) 12 LSU (teke184) 12, #10 Kent State (JHawk) 11 Stanford (Bored) 13, USC (Cartman) 11 Minnesota (Vern Gagne) 15, Boise State (Rob E Dangerously) 0; forfeit Tennessee (Kotzenjunge) 10, Boston College (HarleyQuinn) 10; Tennessee wins by tiebreak Rutgers (the pinjockey) 13, Arizona State (Spicy McHaggis) 11 Florida State (2GOLD) 10, Texas (Flyboy) 10; Florida State wins by tiebreak Maryland (MarvinisaLunatic) 12, Michigan (Mad Dog) 10 West Virginia (Loaded Glove) 14, Michigan State (Dangerous A) 11 Georgia (A_MikeSC) 13, UCLA (phoenixrising) 12 Conference Standings (conference record, overall record) Pac-8 1. Stanford (1-0, 4-0) 1. Washington State (1-0, 4-0) 3. Hawaii (2-1, 2-2) 4. Oregon (1-1, 2-2) 5. Arizona State (0-0, 1-3) 5. UCLA (0-0, 0-4) 7. Boise State (0-1, 0-4) 8. USC (0-2, 1-3) Big MAC 1. Notre Dame (3-0, 4-0) 2. Ohio State (1-0, 4-0) 3. Bowling Green (0-0, 2-2) 3. Minnesota (0-0, 2-2) 5. Penn State (0-1, 2-2) 5. Kent State (0-1, 1-3) 5. Michigan (0-1, 1-3) 5. Michigan State (0-1, 1-3) Mid South 1. LSU (1-0, 3-1) 1. Alabama (1-0, 2-2) 1. Tennessee (1-0, 2-2) 4. Auburn (1-1, 2-2) 4. Florida (1-1, 1-3) 6. Georgia (0-1, 3-1) 6. Oklahoma (0-1, 3-1) 6. Texas (0-1, 1-3) Big Atlantic 1. Maryland (2-0, 3-1) 2. Syracuse (1-0, 3-1) 2. Miami (1-0, 2-2) 2. Boston College (1-0, 1-3) 5. Florida State (0-1, 2-2) 5. West Virginia (0-1, 2-2) 5. Rutgers (0-1, 1-3) 8. Virginia (0-2, 2-2)

Actually Mike you have a lot of ground to make up because you took over a team that fofeited one week. Just a note to everyone there is a Wednesday game next week so I'm going to try to have Week 5 thread up tonight although I have to wait until the OSU/ASU game is over.