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I was going to do the notes for yesterdays Hot Stove Report but a trade just reported between the A's and Padres. Damn I know Beane has always had a hard on for Kotsay but fuck Ramon had such a great year last year and is great at handling the pitching staff. Thrilled they dumped Long's salary but damn Ramon was a fan favorite so there will be some pissed off people. Ugh liking this trade even less...Kotsay hit .266 with only 7 homeruns last year. Ramon hit .273 with 21 homeruns. What is Beane thinking on this one? Okay this was the guy that looks like a genius on almost every trade but the A's should have asked for more than Kotsay.

You will notice...if you join the COLLEGE BOWL PICK 'EM run by me, coming soon to this board!!!

The ACC is tied to the Humanitarian Bowl so they'd have to take it if that is all that is left. Although of course would have the option of turning down the invite and not going to a bowl game all together but I think the ACC might frown on one of their schools rejecting a bowl invite.

Yes what's the point of even having a women's thread?

Bored's Bowl Projections OR Everyone Elses Version 3.0 You know the drill. I jumble together espn.com's four seperate bowl projections, si.com, collegefootballnews.com, and collegebcs.com's projections just to give you an idea of who may or may not be going to each bowl game. No Sportsline this week as they don't have them up yet so fuck 'em. Again since any number of match-ups could end up happening in the Orange and Fiesta Bowl so I just list everyone being picked there. Oh and by winning the horrible Sun Belt conference yet again, North Texas has wrapped up the prestigious New Orleans Bowl bid so they get the bold treatment. December 16 New Orleans: North Texas vs. Memphis/Louisville December 18 GMAC: Southern Miss/TCU/South Florida vs. Miami (OH)/Bowling Green December 22 Tangerine: Georgia Tech/N.C. State/Virginia/Maryland vs. Missouri/Kansas/Texas Tech/Navy December 23 Fort Worth: Houston/South Florida/Louisville vs. Texas Tech/Connecticut/Air Force/Colorado State/Tulsa/Boston College December 24 Las Vegas: New Mexico/Air Force vs. California/UCLA/Oregon/Oregon State December 25 Hawaii: Louisville/Southern Miss/South Florida vs. Hawaii/Tulsa December 26 Motor City: Bowling Green/Miami (OH) vs. Wisconsin/Michigan State/Northwestern Insight: West Virginia/Virginia Tech/Pittsburgh vs. UCLA/Oregon State/California December 27 Continental Tire: Virginia Tech/West Virginia/Pittsburgh/Miami vs. Clemson/Georgia Tech/Virginia December 29 Alamo: Iowa/Wisconsin vs. Oklahoma State/Nebraska/Kansas State December 30 Houston: Missouri/Texas Tech/Colorado/Kansas/Colorado State/Connecticut vs. South Carolina/Houston/Toledo Holiday: Washington State/Oregon State/Oregon vs. Nebraska/Oklahoma State/Kansas State Silicon Valley: Fresno State vs. California/UCLA/Navy/Boston College/Northern Illinois December 31 Music City: Auburn/Arkansas vs. Michigan State/Wisconsin Independence: Texas Tech/Missouri vs. Arkansas/Auburn Liberty: Southern Miss/TCU/Louisville/Memphis vs. Utah Sun: Oregon/Oregon State/California vs. Minnesota/Iowa San Francisco: Colorado State/New Mexico/Air Force vs. Syracuse January 1 Outback: Purdue/Minnesota vs. Tennessee/Georgia Gator: Virginia Tech/Pittsburgh/West Virginia vs. Maryland/N.C. State Capital One: Ohio State/Michigan/Purdue vs. Florida/Tennessee/Georgia/LSU Rose: Michigan/Florida State vs. Washington State/USC/Texas Orange: Miami, Florida State, Pittsburgh, TCU, LSU January 2 Cotton: Kansas State/Oklahoma State vs. Mississippi/Georgia Peach: Clemson/N.C. State vs. Florida/Tennessee/Mississippi Fiesta: Texas, LSU, Georgia, Ohio State, Florida State, Miami, Washington State January 3 Humanitarian: Boise State vs. Virginia/Georgia Tech/Toledo January 4 Sugar: Oklahoma vs. USC/Ohio State/LSU

Okay I've never actually bothered to watch MNF halftime this year but I wanted to so I could see Ronnie Lott's number retired. So they show Doug Flutie and some other guy playing with Nickleback and the Bare Naked Ladies? WTF WAS THAT???? At least saw a cool moment with Eddie DeBartolo at the end but caught only about 40 seconds of the whole fucking ceremony! FUCK YOU ABC! God I hate network television.

Like I said if there were any standout candidate A-Rod wouldn't have won so it that sense is the exception to the rule. Stick A-Rod in the NL and there is no way he wins it over Pujols or Melon Head because they played on winning teams. I will say this though no DH should EVER win the award so I wouldn't agree with Ortiz winning.

Difference was that Ohio St. team had Maurice Clarrett, that team was undefeated, that team at least had some dominating performances against quality opponents, that team actually had an offense that could score a touchdown, and that team played Michigan at home. Last year's team was disrespected but this year's team just isn't as good as its record and they are not as good as USC.

There's a reason why only five players on losing teams have won and it because losers don't deserve the MVP and A-Rod was on the 2nd worst team ever to have an MVP. No one put a gun to A-Rod's head when he signed with that shitty organization. Fact is there was no strong candidates this year so A-Rod almost won by default. If anyone had come on strong late in the season, like Teajda did last year, A-Rod wouldn't have won. I will say that he was robbed for real in '96 so guess we'll call it even and he can the award this year.

Here is the new BCS Top 25 from collegebcs.com. 1. Oklahoma 1.80 2. Ohio State 7.52 3. USC 7.71 4. LSU 12.21 5. Texas 16.35 6. Georgia 16.73 7. Tennessee 18.15 8. TCU 19.27 9. Michigan 19.73 10. Washington State 21.03 11. Florida State 24.25 12. Miami 24.70 13. Florida 26.91 14. Miami of Ohio 30.53 15. Mississippi 34.11 16. Purdue 35.10 17. Virginia Tech 36.07 18. Iowa 37.52 19. Kansas State 45.55 20. Bowling Green 47.27 21. Oklahoma State 48.94 22. Nebraska 50.61 23. Boise State 50.69 24. Utah 51.38 25. Pittsburgh 52.48

She weighs 153? I haven't seen recent pics of her but damn she sure doesn't look it from what I've seen.

That pisses me off more than the USC/OSU thing. Apparently the NY Times computer has TCU down somewhere in the twenties, behind some teams with THREE losses. It's disgusting. Actually the lowest computer ranking is thrown out and TCU isn't ranked lower than 9th in any of the other computer rankings. Their problem is strength of schedule which is 90th. Although the New York Times did cost USC the #2 spot because they dropped from 3rd to 5th in their rankings. Considering the New York Times is hardly known for sports coverage I think it needs to be dropped from the BCS formula. One note on Ohio State that I hadn't realized is that they've played 8 of their 11 games at home. The BCS doesn't factor winning at home on the road which is probably something that should be changed.

Interesting notes from the voting. Alex Rodriguez had the most 3rd and 4th place votes and had one 9th place vote. Carlos Delgado had the most 2nd place votes. Shannon Stewart and Manny Ramirez both received votes in every place. Somebody actually gave Jason Giambi a first place vote. Derek Jeter was on two ballots and one of them voted him 2nd, the other 10th. AL Voting Points (1st place votes) 1. Alex Rodriguez (6) 242 2. Carlos Delgado (5) 210 3. Jorge Posada (5) 194 4. Shannon Stewart (3) 140 5. David Ortiz (4) 130 6. Manny Ramirez (1) 103 7. Nomar Garciaparra (1) 99 8. Vernon Wells (1) 84 9. Carlos Beltran 77 10. Bret Boone 65 11. Miguel Tejada (1) 49 12. Bill Mueller 45 13. Jason Giambi (1) 36 14. Garret Anderson 35 15t. Keith Foulke 20 15t. Frank Thomas 20 17. Eric Chavez 18 18t. Carlos Lee 16 18t. Magglio Ordonez 16 20. Alfonso Soriano 15 21. Derek Jeter 10 22. Pedro Martinez 7 23. Ichiro Suzuki 6 24t. Esteban Loaiza 4 24t. Jason Varitek 4 24t. Aubrey Huff 4 27. Mariano Rivera 3

Its called having a good agent. Speaking of which what cut does alkeiper get out of A-Rod's MVP bonus? Bleh, he still shouldn't have won.

Should note along with USC/Ohio St. flip, TCU is expected to drop from 6th to 8th in the new BCS rankings.

I saw this posted in the Week 11 thread but figured it deserved its own topic. The players are Bill Romanowski (SHOCKING!!!), Barrett Robbins, Dana Stubblefield, and Chirs Cooper. Four Raiders might face THG suspension

I've actually made it noted in a couple of posts and that's Stanford. No I didn't go to Stanford, which people probably could figure out, I just grew up following them and stuck with them. Hey if they beat Cal and Notre Dame they'll be going to the historic Silicon Valley Bowl! Besides I've really become a diehard college football fan and can talk about almost any team. Definently partial to Pac-10 football for obvious reasons.

Woo hoo after losing my first 4 of 5, I've won my last 4 of 5. I'm still in the playoff hunt...um are we having playoffs?

I'm going to object to Texas in the Fiesta Bowl. For one, who the hell did they ever beat convincingly? KSU was a close game, Tech was close. Do they get points for blowing away OSU? or Rice? or Tulane? Does the computer give Texas some SOS since they played Oklahoma? even if OU whupped the bullshit out of them? Go A&M! Hey I wouldn't want them there and before they blew out Oklahoma State I wasn't even sure if they should even be ranked. Their fans travel well so they will be taken. Oh and a response to another post another reason to have 16 teams is because of a team like Miami of Ohio which I think probably would beat TCU. You put them in a tournament and they might pull an upset or two and people LOVE the Cindarella story. That's what makes the basketball tournament so great, rooting for the underdog, and of course filling out your brackets.

Well I'd put 16 personally....as I keep saying like every other level of college football. It's the only way you can get all conference champs in and get enough schools from the big conferences to make them happy.

Where have you been? They are ranked #5 in the BCS and barring a bizarre set of circumstances (like A&M beating them) they are a lock for the Fiesta Bowl.

*cough* tournament *cough* Oh well I have confidence that Michigan will beat OHHHio State...just worried about the sledgehammer.

"Recap" by John Petrie of the Michaels/Hart match...sorry only one I could find. Damn those worked concussions after getting your ass kicked by nine guys in Syracuse are a bitch. SHAWN MICHAELS vs. OWEN HART No decision. Referee stopped match. Match ends after Shawn Michaels knocks Owen over the top rope, then collapses in the center of the ring. Referee checks on Michaels, who is lying motionless on the mat. Owen keeps his distance, looking concerned and confers with Jim Cornette. McMahon enters ring. After commercial break, we see Michaels still down in the ring as attendants and medical personnel arrive. McMahon is shown looking very concerned as Lawler stands at ringside. Show goes off the air with Michaels still out on the mat. No commentary of any type is made for the last five minutes of the show. A few shots are taken of fans at ringside nearly in tears. Match itself had been quite good up to the end.

1993 – no show November 21, 1994 Tatanka def. Chris Kanyon Adam Bomb def. Jason Arndt I.R.S. def. Matt Hardy Razor Ramon NC Diesel November 20, 1995 The 1-2-3 Kid def. Hakushi Savio Vega NC Skip Shawn Michaels NC Owen Hart November 18, 1996 Steve Austin def. Mankind by DQ Faarooq def. Savio Vega Doug Furnas & Phil LeFon def. Bob Holly & Leif Cassidy November 17, 1997 Jerry Lawler def. Marc Mero by DQ Savio Vega & Miguel Perez Jr. NC Jesse James & Billy Gunn Mini Nova, Mini Taurus, & Max Mini NC Tarantula, El Torito, & Battalion Scott Taylor def. Eric Shelley Dude Love def. Rocky Maivia by DQ November 16, 1998 The New Age Outlaws & X-Pac def. Kurrgan, Golga, & Giant Silva Val Venis def. Mark Henry Goldust & Steve Blackman def. Jeff Jarrett & The Blue Blazer Ken Shamrock NC The Big Bossman; IC Title Match Gangrel & Edge def. Animal & Droz by count out Steve Austin def. The Rock by DQ; WWF Title Match November 22, 1999 The Hollys def. Mankind & Al Snow Kurt Angle def. Mark Henry Chris Jericho def. The Godfather Edge & Christian def. The Dudley Boyz X-Pac def. Jeff Hardy The Big Show def. Kane by count out Too Cool def. Val Venis & The British Bulldog by DQ Test def Road Dogg; Special Referee, Shane McMahon The Rock & Sock Connection def. The Big Bossman & Prince Albert Triple H def. The Acolytes by DQ in a handicap match November 20, 2000 The Dudley Boyz def. Bull Buchanan & The Goodfather by DQ; Tag Title Match William Regal def. Hardcore Holly in hardcore match The Rock & Chris Jericho def. Rikishi & Kane Road Dogg, K-Kwik, & Billy Gunn def. Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko, & Perry Saturn Ivory def. Molly Holly; Women’s Title Match The Undertaker def. Edge & Christian in a handicap match Steve Austin def. Chris Benoit November 19, 2001 Trish Stratus def. Lita; Women’s Title Match The Dudley Boyz def. Rob Van Dam in a Handicap Tables Match The Rock def. Kurt Angle; World Title Match Kane def. Chris Jericho by DQ William Regal def. Tazz November 18, 2002 The Dudley Boyz def. Three Minute Warning & Rico Lance Storm & William Regal def. Jeff Hardy & Tommy Dreamer Victoria def. Stacy Keibler; Women’s Title Match Christopher Nowinksi def. Al Snow in a School of Hard Knocks Match Rob Van Dam def. Booker T and Chris Jericho (pinned) in a No-DQ Triple Threat Match

New AP Top 25 1. Oklahoma 2. USC 3. LSU 4. Ohio State 5. Michigan 6. Georgia 7. Texas 8. Washington State 9. Tennessee 10. TCU 11. Florida State 12. Virginia Tech 13t. Florida 13t. Miami 15. Mississippi 16. Purdue 17. Iowa 18. Miami (OH) 19. Kansas State 20. Boise State 21. Pittsburgh 22. Bowling Green 23. Nebraska 24. Oklahom State 25. West Virginia Dropped Out: #19 Minnesota, #21t Northern Illinois, #21t Michigan State Other Receiving Votes 26. Minnesota 27. Missouri 28. Arkansas 29. Utah 30. Maryland 31. Northern Illinois 32. Michigan State 33. Wisconsin 34. Oregon State 35. Connecticut 36. Southern Miss 37t. Texas Tech 37t. N.C. State 39. Clemson