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Al your support of A-Rod this year is odd because Carlos Delgado is having the better year and Manny Ramirez (who IS on a winning team) leads the A.L. in ops. Fact is A-Rod numbers are slightly down this year so if he doesn't win it last year he certainly shouldn't win it this year. I'm starting to get a vibe though since no one has broken out like Tejada did last year that A-Rod might get a sympathy MVP this year.

For the first time in like for I don't remember how long I'm actually going to try to avoid the Smackdown spoilers as I would like to just watch the Ironman unfold without knowing what happened. Yes I know I'm in the spoiler thread right now but not like they'll be up anytime soon.

Bah...the Canadian bias on Halladay! Okay time to show my bias...where is the Keith Foulke love? Not that I want him to win because then the A's definently won't be able to sign him. I can't imagine though he won't get some first place votes.

Here is YOUR college football national television schedule for this week. ABC regional games are marked with an asterisk and all times are Pacific (West Coast bias!): Thursday Texas A&M at #8 Virginia Tech, 4:30 PM, ESPN Friday Hawaii at UNLV, 6:00 PM, ESPN2 Saturday #12 Tennessee at #17 Florida, 9:00 AM, CBS North Carolina at Wisconsin, 9:00 AM, ESPN Texas Tech at N.C. State, 9:00 AM, ESPN2 Marshall at #6 Kansas State, 9:30 AM, FSN Michigan State at Notre Dame, 11:30 AM, NBC #7 Georgia at #11 LSU, 12:30 PM, CBS #3 Michigan at #22 Oregon, 12:30 PM, ABC* UCLA at #1 Oklahoma, 12:30 PM, ABC* Colorado at #10 Florida State, 12:30 PM, ABC* #16 Arizona State at #18 Iowa, 3:00 PM, ESPN2 #2 Miami at Boston College, 4:45 PM, ESPN Not as many games as usual on Saturday. For some reason ABC only was one regional game slot this week, Fox Sports Net only has one national game, and no game on TBS this week.

A's win again, Mariners lose again. Four and a half game lead with 11 to go so its pretty much over. A's got some bad news though that Jose Guillen has a broken bone in his left hand and might be out for the season but at the moment he's going to try to play with it some how. He's going to sit out their current series with Anaheim (he's already back in Oakland) and try to see if he can play this weekend when they are home to play Seattle. Sounds like a long shot he can go but my guess is they'll have him sit out for the rest of the regular season and then they'll see if he can play the postseason. Amazingly they are 21-7 since Mulder was lost for the season so who knows maybe they'll just pick it up even more if Guillen is gone.

Let's see Test jobs and gets beaten up after the match. WWE even steven booking means....STEINER IS GETTING IT UP THE POOP SHOOT THIS SUNDAY! Smellllllllllllllllllllllll they buyrate! *sniff* Ew.

I guess I'll do this every week now...here is the Unofficial BCS Top 25 and Bottom 10. 1. Miami 7.13 2. Oklahoma 7.53 3. Michigan 8.58 4. Ohio State 12.31 5. Georgia 12.50 6. USC 17.11 7. Kansas State 21.75 8. Iowa 24.32 9. Virginia Tech 29.70 10. Nebraska 35.07 11. Tennessee 35.46 12. Florida State 35.74 13. Arkansas 40.14 14. Notre Dame 41.04 15. Pittsburgh 43.64 16. Washington State 46.21 17. LSU 49.51 18. Florida 51.47 19. Oregon 51.63 20. TCU 51.87 21. Texas A&M 54.74 22. Bowling Green 58.02 23. Purdue 58.20 24. Colorado 59.43 25. Washington 61.04 Bottom 10 117. UTEP 121.65 116. SMU 117.54 115. Eastern Michigan 116.81 114. LA-Monroe 116.07 113. Army 115.91 112. Vanderbilt 113.36 111. Baylor 110.20 110. Idaho 108.26 109. Rice 106.64 108. Temple 105.94 Credit goes to collegebcs.com (also is collegerpi.com for basketball which is used by ESPN) which is a pay service that compiles these rankings and ranks all Division I-A teams from 1 to 117 instead of just the Top 15. Four of the seven computer ratings in the BCS formula are not available yet and that is why these rankings are unofficial. Official rankings don't come out until October 20th but still fun to look at how the BCS is shaping up at this point.

New feature! Anyways every month now I'll post old results from every PPV from this month. For WCW/NWA I'll post them the week the PPVs normally happened during this month. For WWE/WWF I'll post them the Saturday before their PPV. This month is Fall Brawl month for WCW featuring many mediocre WarGames. September 19, 1993 Steven Regal def. Ricky Steamboat to win the Television Title Charlie Norris def. Big Sky 2 Cold Scorpio & Marcus Bagwell def. Paul Orndorff & The Equalizer Ice Train def. Shanghai Pierce The Nasty Boys def. Arn Anderson & Paul Roma to win the Tag Team Titles Cactus Jack def. Yoshi Kwan Rick Rude def. Ric Flair to win the WCW International World Title Sting, Davey Boy Smith, Dustin Rhodes, & The Shockmaster def. Vader, Sid Vicious, & Harlem Heat in a WarGames Match September 18, 1994 Johnny B. Badd def. Steven Regal to win the Television Title Kevin Sullivan def. Cactus Jack in a Loser Leaves Town Match Jim Duggan def. Steve Austin to win the United States Title Pretty Wonderful def. Stars ‘n’ Stripes; Tag Title Match Vader def. The Guardian Angel (1st match) and Sting (2nd) in a Triangle Match Dusty Rhodes, Dustin Rhodes & The Nasty Boys def. Terry Funk, Arn Anderson, Bunkhouse Back, & Col. Rob Parker in a WarGames Match September 17, 1995 Johnny B. Badd def. Brian Pillman Sgt. Craig Pittman def. Cobra Diamond Dallas Page def. The Renegade to win the Television Title Harlem Heat def. Bunkhouse Buck & Dick Slater to win the Tag Team Titles Arn Anderson def. Ric Flair Hulk Hogan, Sting, Randy Savage, & Lex Luger def. The Dungeon of Doom in a WarGames Match September 15, 1996 Diamond Dallas Page def. Chavo Guerrero Jr. Ice Train def. Scott Norton in a Submission Match Konnan def. Juventud Guerrera; Mexican Title Match Chris Benoit def. Chris Jericho Rey Mysterio Jr. def. Super Calo; CW Title Match Harlem Heat def. The Nasty Boys; Tag Title Match The Giant def. Randy Savage Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, & “Sting” def. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Lex Luger, & Sting in a WarGames Match September 14, 1997 Eddy Guerrero def. Chris Jericho to win the Cruiserweight Title The Steiner Brothers def. Harlem Heat Alex Wright def. Ultimo Dragon; TV Title Match Jeff Jarrett def. Dean Malenko Wrath & Mortis def. The Faces of Fear The Giant def. Scott Norton Lex Luger & Diamond Dallas Page def. Scott Hall & Randy Savage in a No-DQ Match Kevin Hash, Syxx, Konnan, & Buff Bagwell def. Ric Flair, Chris Benoit, Curt Hennig, & Steve McMichael in a WarGames Match September 13, 1998 Davey Boy Smith & Jim Niedhart def. Disco Inferno & Alex Wright Chris Jericho def. “Goldberg” (midget) Ernest Miller def. Norman Smiley Scott Steiner NC Rick Steiner Juventud Guerrera def. Silver King; CW Title Match Saturn def. Raven Dean Malenko def. Curt Hennig by DQ Konnan def. Scott Hall Diamond Dallas Page wins a WarGames Match September 12, 1999 Eddy Guerrero, Rey Mysterio Jr., & Kidman def. Vampiro & The Insane Clown Posse Lenny def. Kaz Hayashi; CW Title Match Brian Knobbs & Hugh Morrus def. Shane Douglas & Dean Malenko in a No-DQ Match Rick Steiner def. Saturn; TV Title Match Berlyn def. Jim Duggan Harlem Heat def. The Windham Brothers to win the Tag Team Titles Sid Vicious def. Chris Benoit to win the United States Title Goldberg def. Diamond Dallas Page Sting def. Hulk Hogan to win the WCW World Title September 17, 2000 Elix Skipper def. Kwee Wee; CW Title Match Cpl. Cajun, Lt. Loco, & Sgt. AWOL def. Three Count The Harris Brothers def. Kronik in a First Blood Chain Match Lance Storm def. General Rection; Canadian Title Match The Filthy Animals, Big Vito, & Paul Orndorff def. The Natural Born Thrillers in an Elimination Match Shane Douglas & Torrie Wilson def. Billy Kidman & Madusa in Scaffold Match Sting def. Vampiro and The Great Muta (pinned) in a Triangle Match Mike Awesome def. Jeff Jarrett in a Bunkhouse Match Scott Steiner def. Goldberg Booker T def. Kevin Nash in a Cage Match to win the WCW World Title

September 20, 1993 Scott Steiner def. Quebecer Pierre Bam Bam Bigelow def. Laverne McGill Mr. Perfect def. Mike Bell P.J. Walker def. I.R.S. September 19, 1994 Lex Luger def. The Executioner Jerry Lawler def. Duke Droese by DQ The Heavenly Bodies def. Mike Bell & Steve King Bob Holly def. Richie Rich Yokozuna def. Phil Apollo September 18, 1995 The 1-2-3 Kid def. Razor Ramon Tatanka & Kama def. Savio Vega & Bob Holly Jean Pierre LaFitte def. Brian Walsh Yokozuna & Owen Hart def. Men on a Mission September 16, 1996 The Sultan def. Jake Roberts Bob Holly & Alex Porteau def. The Smoking Gunns Marc Mero def. Owen Hart Faarooq Asad def. Sycho Sid by DQ September 15, 1997 Ken Shamrock def. Faarooq Taka Michinoku def. El Pantera The Legion of Doom def. Sniper & Recon by DQ Max Mini & Mr. Lucky def. El Torito & Pirita Morgan Brian Pillman def. Dude Love by DQ The Patriot def. Owen Hart The Headbangers def. Bret Hart & The British Bulldog by DQ September 14, 1998 Jeff Jarrett def. Road Dogg The Rock def. Kane Hunter Hearst Helmsley def. Owen Hart; IC Title Match The Undertaker NC Mankind Edge NC Gangrel; double count out Mark Henry def. X-Pac & Chyna in handicap match Sable def. Jacqueline in an Evening Gown Match Steve Austin NC Ken Shamrock; WWF Title Match September 20, 1999 Chris Jericho def. Billy Gunn The Dudley Boyz def. The Hardy Boyz Test & Stephanie McMahon def. Jeff Jarrett & Debra The Rock & Mankind def. The Undertaker & The Big Show in a Dark Side Rules Match to win the Tag Team Titles Shawn Stasiak def. Steve Blackman Hardcore Holly def. The Big Bossman Test & Shane McMahon def. Triple H & Chyna by DQ September 18, 2000 Bull Buchanan & The Goodfather def. The Dudley Boyz Kane def. Chris Benoit by DQ Triple H, Kurt Angle, & Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley def. T&A & Trish Stratus Rikishi NC Chyna Edge & Christian def. Too Cool; Tag Title Match The Undertaker def. The Rock September 17, 2001 The Dudley Boyz def. The Undertaker & Kane to win the Tag Team Titles Lance Storm def. Jeff Hardy Perry Saturn def. Shawn Stasiak Booker T & Shane McMahon def. Tazz in a handicap match The Hurricane def. Spike Dudley; Euro Title Match Christian def. Tajiri by DQ; U.S. Title Match Test & Stephanie McMahon def. The Rock in a handicap match Kurt Angle & Chris Jericho def. Steve Austin & Rob Van Dam September 16, 2002 Rico def. Ric Flair Booker T def. Test Lance Storm & Christian def. Bubba Ray Dudley & Spike Dudley; Tag Title Match Chris Jericho def. Rob Van Dam to win the Intercontinental Title Kane def. William Regal by DQ Triple H def. Jeff Hardy; World Title Match

Recap by KJP: The Smoking Gunns (w/Sunny Gunn-Asad) vs. Bob "Spark(y) Plugg" Holly and Alex "The Pug" Porteau (non-title match) Hmm... "Plugg and Pug"? That's almost catchy. But no time to ponder this, as Sunny has a little gift for the crowd, or at least that part of the crowd not sitting in the wrong sections. The gift: a twenty-five foot high blowup of herself. Admittedly, with a touch more clothing than we're used to, but it is getting into autumn now, and besides, they might just find a market for those. Cut to Bret Hart: "Brian Pillman, you..." -- ad break -- Holly gets the better of Billy Gunn early, but since that's bound to turn around, let's focus on the next pronouncement of Jim Ross: "This is earth-shattering. I guarantee you, right here, ladies and gentlemen, this, and listen very closely to what I am about to say. Here comes the WWF's answer to Richard Simmons," referring to Jim Cornette. With the bombshell thus dropped, Ross continues: "Right here, next week, live on Raw, Razor Ramon and Diesel will be in the ring. They'll be here live, they'll be here next week, we'll be in Hershey, Pennsylvania next Monday night live, and I guarantee you, that "Big Daddy Cool" Diesel and Razor Ramon will be standing right there in the ring, right here next week, and it's going to be live." Oh, and did he mention that they'll be in the ring? And that it will be live? And next week? Meanwhile, turning our attention to current plot twists, Jim Cornette has taken a seat at ring side, along with his stable cornerstones, Owen Hart and the British Bulldog. Cornette is apparently ready for some sort of workout, but all three of them seem to have brought along plenty of beverages. Which brings us into the next topic, WWF Livewire's premiere. Apparently Pettengill's out, and Jim Cornette, of all people, is in. And recall, Sunny is the co-host. Gee, you don't suppose someone's trying to cause trouble around here, maybe? Back at ringside, Cornette and company decide to torment Sunny with their Super Soaker squeeze bottles. This only bothers Sunny for a moment, though, as her team is winning in a walk. So much so, in fact, that they, like everyone else, are concentrating more on the angle developing outside the ring, than the match within. "Lot of pointing, lot of gesturing," as Kelly puts it, or was that a line from the Upperclass Twit of the Year show? Porteau actually avoids defeat by making the hot tag, and Holly gets to do his bit, including that Frankensteiner he's worked so hard on, but a little timely interference from Sunny takes any winning aspirations out of Holly. The Sidewinder soon follows, and... wait! Owen Hart suddenly steps up, that fateful Coca-Cola cup in hand, and starts jawing away. The Gunns quickly foil whatever plan Owen might have had, by slapping the cup out of his hand... or maybe not, as Bob Holly, not so beaten after all, sneaks up and says thank you very much, and rolls up Billy Gunn for the pinfall!

Never heard of '96 recapper (I just google search the RSPW forums looking for the old recaps) but since I prefer to post originals it will do. Fall Brawl '93 by Scott Keith (recapped on 4/24/98) Flair/Rude Fall Brawl '96 by Eric McHugh Benoit/Jericho WarGames WCW/NWA/International/World/Gold Belt Title: Ric Flair v. Rick Rude. Don't even get me started on the title up for grabs here. Rude has Fifi the maid imprinted on his tights to piss off Flair. Flair gets the figure-four very early on. Jesse makes bold-faced misogynistic comments, including the old "barefoot and pregnant" line, so the female sound editor cuts off his mike! The match, meanwhile, is an extended armbar. Then an extended chinlock by Rude. Then some exciting punches by Rude. Then an even more exciting bearhug. There's a lot of that going around tonight. Rude takes control but keeps jawing at Fifi. Flair finally reverses the Rude Awakening into his own, but only gets two. Flair begins going after the leg, but Rude recovers and hits the fistdrop finisher, for only two. Rude keeps hitting on Fifi, and she finally slaps him. Rude pulls her into the ring and berates her, and Flair nails him from behind and slaps on the figure-four. Nick Patrick is busy getting Fifi out of the ring, and Rude pulls an international object out of his tights (NOT THAT ONE!) and nails Flair for the pin and the "World title". *1/2 Worst Flair match I've seen in a long time. With basically no break, we went to this one. CHRIS BENOIT pinned CHRIS JERICHO. Jericho's music sucks. Benoit came out to a huge pop, being we're in North Carolina and all. Horsemen country. Benoit had "4H" on his tights, but I doubt it was for summer camps and hiking. Both men started right out slapping and slugging, and it was said that this was the first meeting of these two in the USA. Benoit hit an early back suplex and spinebuster slam for pops. Benoit slapped on a vertical (with a bend) crab, and it was mentioned that Sting and another guy were in the limo last Monday night. Lots of reversals and counters, and finally Jericho hit a dropkick to the back of Benoit's head. Jericho hit a springboard dropkick to the outside and then came off with something else, but landed on the apron and took about a minute to recover from it. Jericho threw Benoit back in and climbed to the top. When he yelled to rally the crowd, he got booed. Jericho hit a dropkick from the top, followed by a powerbomb for 2. Jericho then hit a double-armlock suplex for another 2. It was a slugfest again for a moment before Benoit back-suplexed Jericho over the ropes to the floor; Jericho landed on his knees. Benoit yelled at Jericho "You wanna be famous?" Benoit dropped Jericho on the top rope, then delivered an elbow thrust. Benoit slapped on an abdominal stretch which Jericho got out of. Benoit hit his swan dive headbutt, which got a delayed 2-count from that inept Randy Anderson (1...2............*kickout*). Jericho was thrown to the floor, but came back in on his own. Jericho hit a small package and a backslide for near falls. Heenan mentioned the "Shell Answerman" and got teased about it, with Heenan even making fun of himself. Jericho reversed a monkeyflip attempt into a pin attempt. Jericho hit a northern lights suplex for 2. It was toe-to-toe again at this point until Benoit's tombstone got reversed. Jericho's lionsault missed but he landed on his feet, delivered a banshee scream that Ahmed Johnson might've even heard, and hit a clothesline. 2-count. Jericho hit a perfect and high top-rope frankensteiner for 2. Jericho climbed to the top again but got pushed from Benoit, who hit a back suplex from the top for the pin. Solid, great match. Good to see Benoit winning on pay-per-view. WAR GAMES. NWO defeated WCW. No surprise there. And, in all honesty, there are reports of blow-by-blow all over the net so you've probably seen what happened. I think I only need to cover the basics. Michael Buffer did the ring announcing and said that both sides had only three of four known names. For the NWO: Nash, Hall, Hogan. For WCW: Luger, Arn, Flair. The head ref had final say...uh-oh, it's Nick Patrick. The last thing I wanted was for a ref-screwjob ending to ruin this event for me. For the first time (and more maximum dramatic effect), the participants would remain in the back until they were to enter the cage at the right time. We then went to the back where Luger and Arn and Flair were ready to go it alone if necessary, when who shows up but Sting. Sting said to hear him out and said it wasn't him. Luger looked right at him and said he didn't believe him. Sting said "Fine. I'll see you in a few minutes." and left. Sting spent months believing in Luger and he was right. Now Luger didn't believe in Sting. I hope the announcers bring that up on NITRO or something, because they didn't at this show and they should have. That's an important piece of the story. So on to the match. Scott Hall and Arn Anderson started out for the opening five-minute period. Patrick mistakenly told AA at one point that he could stop it now if he wanted, which the announcers corrected. NWO won the toss (surprise!) and Nash came out for the next 2-minute period. No blood yet. Luger came out next 15 seconds early. One side of the cage was breaking apart, but it stayed intact enough for the bout. Hogan came out next. I wondered why all of them were in the same ring so much. I liked this better with 10 guys. The crowd erupted with "We Want Flair", knowing he'd be next. Flair came out. Still no blood. Flair came in and called for Hogan and they battled with Flair winning out! He then low-blowed the other Outsiders and strutted. The last NWO man came out, "Sting". I think the crowd was onto it, though, because a "We Want Sting" chant came up soon. Oh, and incidentally, I have it on good word who the imposter Sting was/is: remember Cobra? Thunder? Him. So anyway, "Sting" actually emulated Sting's moves well, even with the chest-pounding thing. I figured Sting would've ran out immediately to clear his name and I wondered why he didn't. So finally, Sting came out for WCW and the place erupted. Sting beat up all four NWO guys on his own and then looked right at Luger. Sting went to the other ring and yelled, "Is that good enough for you? Does that prove it?" Sting was pissed! He gave the universal sign to Luger and left the cage!! The announcers were all begging Sting to come back, saying they were sorry no one trusted him. However, it was 4-on-3 for good now. Luger was eventually put in the scorpion by "Sting" and a simultaneous front facelock by someone else. Luger either gave up or was unresponsive, and both referees were there to call the submission. NWO wins. Luger crawled towards the back and kept getting beaten up. Flair and Arn held the NWO off, and Savage joined in. Savage then took Hogan to the ring and was soon beat up by the other NWO members, including the Giant. "Sting" was gone. Then, in the one complaint I have for the night, WCW has apparently decided to dig up the Savage-Elizabeth thing again, and Liz ran out to protect Savage. Hogan got on the mic and said they made a vow to be together forever and called them two pieces of trash. Hogan played to the crowd chanting "Hogan sucks." Elizabeth's dress, Savage's back, and the ring itself got NWO paint. The NWO took over the annoucers' area to close the show.

Just reminded me...that '98 show was when Ric Flair cut THE promo to end all promos. Arguably the best segment of Nitro ever. Here's the CRZ recap: J.J. DILLON is making his way to the ring, dressed in a tuxedo, Tony is about to burst. "We want Flair" chant. Dillon: "I would like to ask the Enforcer, Arn Anderson to come to the ring!" The Horsemen theme plays, and here's ARN ANDERSON, nattily attired in a black suit with black shirt. Actually, that's almost a priest outfit there. Dammit, if they don't give me Flair in this segment, I'll quit right now, I mean it. I'll never watch another episode of this show. "I had a private conversation with you since you and I last appeared publicly in a ring such as this, and I feel that I owe it - I owe it to you, I owe it to all these great fans, and I owe it to myself to share with them publicly what I said to you privately, and that is the fact that I owe you an apology for the things that I said to you, though my intentions were good, I meant well, quite frankly a friend doesn't say to another friend the things that I said to you, or put you in the position that I put you into, and for that I owe you an apology and hope that you will accept my forgiveness." So YOU forgive HIM? I'll let that go. Arn: "Can you smell it, JJ? Take a breath - can you smell it? When fifteen thousand people blow the roof off a place, that's what a pop smells like. Take a bow. What you said to me is what all those people have been saying to me for a year and a half, and only a true friend would say that. They said 'Arn Anderson, stand up and be a man, like you've always been!' And I couldn't hear those words, 'cause something was in the way and I'm gonna start at the beginning, because you have to start at the beginning because tonight IS a new beginning, for the four Horsemen. Now when I was a kid, like all kids, people ask you 'what do you wanna be when you grow up?' There was no grey area for me, I always knew I wanted to be a wrestler. And when that finally happened for me, it was the proudest day of me life, and in 1986 I started coming to these towns, just like Greenville, South Carolina, as a Horseman. And my life changed forever, and the doors it opened for me I had never dreamed of, and wrestling the greatest wrestlers in the world in a town like this and all across this country showed me who I was, and every day that I woke up since them I tried to uphold the standards that we, you and I and the rest of us set for ourselves. And about a year and a half ago, I laid down on an operating table and when I woke up, Arn Anderson the wrestler was dead, and I thought to myself how could I be a horseman if I couldn't be a wrestler. Well, the fact is I couldn't in my mind..." ["We want Flair" chant it loud and strong] "Trust me, everybody's gonna get what they want tonight, Bischoff. Eric Bischoff. So when I thought I could no longer be a Horsemen, Chris Benoit came to me first and said 'this can all happen' and with that prelude, I would like to bring the other three Horsemen out right now. Steve 'Mongo' McMichael, come on down." His music plays, and STEVE "MONGO" McMICHAEL, formally attired, walks to the ring. "Chris Benoit, come on down!" His music plays, and CHRIS BENOIT, similarly dressed, walks to the ring. "Dean Malenko, come on down!" DEAN MALENKO, also in a tuxedo, joins them in the ring. Everyone's embracing. "Now, before we go any further. Chris Benoit, you got this thing rolling, and I'm gonna go on record as saying, if there's a finer wrestler in all the land than you I don't know who it is. Your intensity, the first time I saw you wrestle, made you something special. You are something special in my eyes, you knew what it meant to be a Horsemen. You will carry that tradition way past the year 2000. Mongo McMichael, you're a hard-headed, lotta times you're hard to be around, but the fact is in my eyes, you're all man, you're certainly All-Pro, and when this is all said and done, if I've got anything to say about it, you will mean to this sport what you've meant to the sport of pro football. Now Dean Malenko, I've been out hear yakking for the last ten years about what it meant to be a Horseman: work ethic, respect for the business, respect for each other, respect for the people that came before us, and while I was yakking the last year, and the last couple of months, you were out there fighting the fights for the Horsmen. You exemplify what a Horseman has always meant: overachievement. Being the very best you could be, each and every day of your life whether you were sick, or hurt, or whatever the case may be, and it makes me proud, now I'm gonna say one more time, I've said that you didn't get it; well, *I* didn't get it, because if there was ever a Horseman it makes me a little misty-eyed and real proud to call on this day the finest thing you can be in this sport of professional wrestling, that's a Horseman. Ladies and gentlemen, through the year 2000, we're gonna do exactly what all of you across this nation have asked: 'Arn Anderson, bring back the Horsemen!' But I feel it fair to tell ya, I'm not gonna be responsible for what happens next. 'Cause we don't wear white hats, we're not nice guys, and I can tell you this: heads are gonna roll! So, I've said it: Be careful what you wish for, because now you have it! Ah, whatagoof! Whatagoof! You know, I get accused of gettin' racked in the head a few times and having a little touch of Alzheimer's...my God! I almost forgot the fourth Horseman, Ric Flair! Get on down here!" "Thus Spake Zarathustra" plays over the PA - a cry erupts in the crowd - and gets louder - and louder - and it is the Man - RIC FLAIR is in the building. As he walks to the ring, you can't help but feel that for this day, for this moment, everything really IS okay, and everything CAN be all right. Flair hugs each person in the ring - first Dillon, then McMichael, Benoit, Malenko. When he hugs Arn the cheers continue and there can't be a dry eye in the house - there CAN'T. "Greenville, I give you the Champ." Another wave of cheering engulfs the house. Fifteen thousand people, and I guarantee you not one of them is sitting. I'm getting chills right now. "My God...thank you...thank you very much...I'm almost embarrassed by the response, but when I see this, I know that the twenty - five years that I've spent trying to make you happy every night of your life was worth every damn minute of it. Now, somebody told me that the Horsemen were having a party tonight in Greenville! Could that be true that the most elite group that Eric Bischoff said was dead is alive and well? Bischoff, this might be my only shot, and I gotta tell ya, I'm gonna make it my best. Is this what you call a great moment in TV? It's wrong, because this is REAL! This is not bought and paid for! It's a REAL - LIFE - SITUATION! Just like the night in Columbia, South Carolina, when you looked at me - tears in my eyes - and said 'God, that's good TV' - it was real! Arn Anderson passed the torch - it was real, dammit! You think Sting was crying in the dressing room like I was on TV if it wasn't real? This guy, my best friend, is one of the greatest performers who ever lived, and YOU - you squashed him, in one night. Then you get on the phone and tell me, 'disband the Horsemen, they're dead.' Disband the Horsemen, me. You know what, I looked at myself in the mirror the next day and I saw a pathetic figure that gave up and quit! And for that, I owe you, the wrestling fans, I owe these guys an apology. Because it won't happen again! [bischoff is coming out.] Bischoff, whatever you think...no, you're an overbearing asshole! That's right! You're an obnoxious, you're an obnoxious, overbearing ass! Abuse of power! You! Abuse of power! Cut me off! Come on! It's called abuse of power! You suck! You, I hate your guts. I hate your guts. You are a liar, you're a cheat, you're a scam, you are a no good son of a (mute). Fire me! I'm already fired! Fire me! I'm already fired!" Flair's coat is off but Bischoff has already walked back. Cut to black. It will never get better than this. Never.

September 18, 1995 The American Males def. Harlem Heat to win the Tag Team Titles Paul Orndorff def. Johnnie B. Badd Ric Flair def. Brian Pillman September 16, 1996 Rey Mysterio Jr. def. Juventud Guerrera; CW Title Match Diamond Dallas Page def. Ice Train Konnan def. Super Calo Brad Armstrong def. Hugh Morrus Scott Norton def. Randy Savage by DQ Glacier def. Big Bubba Ric Flair & Arn Anderson def. Chris Jericho & Marcus Bagwell Lex Luger def. Chris Benoit & Steve McMichael by DQ in a handicap match September 15, 1997 Dean Malenko def. Disco Inferno The Faces of Fear def. Harlem Heat Rey Mysterio Jr. def. Juventud Guerrera Alex Wright def. Steven Regal; TV Title Match The Giant def. Konnan Diamond Dallas Page def. Stevie Richards The Outsiders def. Wrath & Mortis; Tag Title Match Eddy Guerrero def. Ultimo Dragon; CW Title Match Curt Hennig def. Steve McMichael to win the United States Title September 14, 1998 Van Hammer def. Alex Wright by DQ Saturn def. Kendell Windham Wrath def. Renegade Kidman def. Juventud Guerrera to win the Cruiserweight Title Davey Boy Smith def. The Barbarian Scott Steiner def. Silver King & Norman Smiley in a handicap match The Giant def. Meng Scott Hall NC Lex Luger Goldberg def. Sting; WCW Title Match September 20, 1999 Rey Mysterio Jr. & Kidman def. Juventud Guerrera & Psychosis Goldberg def. Brian Knobs Sting def. Chris Benoit; WCW Title Match Berlyn def. Scott Armstrong Evan Karagias def. Blitzkrieg Perry Saturn def. Eddy Guerrero Lenny def. Shaggy 2 Dope; CW Title Match Booker T def. Kanyon Ric Flair def. Diamond Dallas Page by DQ September 18, 2000 Rey Mysterio & Tygress def. Mark Jindrak, Sean O’Haire, Shawn Stasiak, & Mike Sanders in a Handicap Elimination Match The Franchise & Torrie Wilson def. Kwee Wee & Paisley The Cat def. Disqo Booker T NC Sting; WCW Title Match Team Canada def. Gen. Rection, Lt. Loco, & Cpl. Cajun Jeff Jarrett & Scott Steiner def. Kronik Mike Awesome def. Vampiro in a hardcore match Sting & Vince Russo def. Jeff Jarrett & Scott Steiner

Argh, Sting had that match won! Fucking Hogan... CRZ recap: (THIS IS) STING v. (bill "143-0") GOLDBERG for the WCW World Heavyweight Title - Apparently, Page brought Goldberg to the Power Plant. I don't think we needed Page on commentary to tell us that. Especially when he says things like "He's getting JACKED!" Lockup, Goldberg with a knee to the gut, repeat. Whip into the ropes, slam. To the corner, whip into the opposite corner, Sting ducks out of the way, Goldberg stops himself. Sting with a kick, picks him up, and tries to tie him to the tree of Woe! Suplex! Goldberg pops up like it's nothing. Sting goes outside to take a breather. "Goldberg" chant? We're in the fourth hour! Lockup, to the rope, knee by Goldberg, whip, Sting with a kick coming off. Punch by Sting, no. Punch by Goldberg, repeat, Sting is down. Elbow to the back of the head. Whip into the ropes, reverse, shoulderblock by Goldberg. Whip, leapfrog, dropkick by Sting, both men up quickly. Kick to the gut by Goldberg, leg scissors into an anklelock - Sting grabs the rope. Match is now longer than Goldberg's entrance. Lockup, headlock applied by Sting. Goldberg picks him up and drops him down - but Sting keeps it on! Wrenching it in, Goldberg can't get the elbow off. To the turnbuckle, Sting climbs the ropes but falls off and the hold is broken. Standoff. Test of strength and Goldberg wins. Knucklelock - to the corner. Goldberg breaks at 4. Ref is "Blind" Billy Silverman, by the way. To the centre of the ring, lockup again. To the corner, but Goldberg with the knees instead of a clean break. Piledriver attempt? Sting reverses it and lets a piledriver of his own! Goldberg gets up a little more slowly. Stinger splash to his back! Stinger splash as he turns around! Sting tries to take him out of the corner but he doesn't budge. Another Stinger splash! Stings backs up for a fourth time but Goldberg runs for Sting - but Sting sidesteps the spear attempt and Goldberg hits the post! Sting with the chopblock! Sting's attempting the Scorpion Deathlock! Still hasn't turned him - he's GOT IT! Goldberg powers out - wtf? No, Sting clamps it back on and sits down. Goldberg won't give up. Crowd is going ballistic. Aw, shit, YOU KNOW WHO is out to screw up this match. Kick to Sting's head. Ref missed it, of course. Here's a spear. Sigh. Page has let down his headset, I wonder if he's going to the ring. Jackhammer. 1, 2, 3. (entrance 3:10, match 8:08) Hogan takes it to Goldberg immediately - save is made by BRET HART of all people. On one leg! I don't know WHAT happened to Page. Hart tells Goldberg what happened. Goldberg's music plays as Hart and Goldberg try to roust Sting. Goldberg helps Sting to his feet and we're gone.

The night Gillberg was born! You know at first, I thought it was really Goldberg, then I took a harder look and realized he was 1/8 his size, lol. Scott Keith recap: Title v. title: Goldberg v. Chris Jericho. Jericho does the guided entrance thing again. He gets lost again. He finally makes it out to the aisle, but the pyro leaves a lot to be desired. You know, a title v. title match might be the sort of thing you want to build up to. Oh, wait. It's not Goldberg, it's a lookalike midget. Big "bullshit" chant. Jericho finishes it without much effort, of course. What a pile of horseshit for a $30 PPV. -*

Bah all poles are bullshit and none should be voted on until midseason but the AP poll is better than the Coaches poll that is force fed to everyone by ESPN. At least the voters on the AP poll are the actual people voting. You never know if the actual coach is voting for the coaches poll in a particular week or if its a student assitant doing the voting for him.

A's win, Mariners lose. A's up now three and a half games and now in a position to make the final three games at Seattle irrelevent. Mariners probably should concentrate on the Wild Card.

The '94 show is infamous for being the end of Foley's and Austin's careers in WCW. Did they ever do anything else? Time to pull out recaps. Instead of responding to each individual post I'll just pick out the matches that have been mentioned. Since I know a lot of people don't like Scott Keith and since a lot of people have read Scott Keith's PPV rants I'll try to avoid using his although if I can't find any others I'll use Keith's. If the recap wasn't done originally when the show aired I'll note the date it was recapped. Of course only able to find a non-Keith rant for the '97 matches...oh well. So here is the list of matches mentioned so far and who did the reacps and then the recaps themsleves. Fall Brawl '95 by Scott Keith (recap done on 9/1/99) Pillman/Badd Flair/Anderson Fall Brawl '97 by Michael T. Tyler Eddy/Jericho Wright/Dragon Jarrett/Malenko WarGames Fall Brawl '98 by Scott Keith (original) Raven/Saturn WarGames Brian Pillman v. Johnny B. Badd. Badd's character seems have to gotten all the gay out of his system by this point, with the exception of the Badd Blaster, the confetti-shooting gun he still brought with him from time to time. Winner of this thing gets a shot at Sting's US title at some indeterminate point in the future. Pillman gets a small heel pop, despite his sickeningly babyface "California Brian" gimmick that he was stuck with at the time. Badd was literally improving daily by this point. Longish feeling out period to start with not much going on. Headlock, armdrag, etc. Match gets moving about 8 minutes in, as Badd works Pillman's leg, causing a shoving match to erupt and Pillman to dust off the old heel persona from the Hollywood Blonds days. Pillman starts running like a coward and cheating, drawing mad heel heat from the crowd. Badd gets the slingshot legdrop for two. We get the double KO spot, with Pillman recovering first and hitting a cheap headbutt to take Badd down and get more heel heat. I'm in awe of Pillman's in-ring heel turn as we watch. Badd gets tossed, but suplexes Pillman to the floor and hits a pescado (dive over the top to the floor). Nice. Back in the ring, and Badd tries to come off the top, but gets dropkicked in mid-air by Pillman. Badd gets a powerbomb for two. Badd counters Pillman's finisher, the tornado DDT, by shoving him to the mat for two. Pillman with a russian legsweep into an armlock submission move as time winds down. Badd escapes and hits the TOOTY FRUITY PUNCH OF DOOM for two. Pillman hits Air Pillman for two, then a backslide for two as time expires at 20:00. We need a #1 contender, though, so it's overtime. They fight to the floor, then back in as both miss a dropkick. Pillman gets a sleeper, reversed by Badd, which is one of my least favorite moves in wrestling, next to the Indian deathlock when performed by anyone not from Japan. Pillman goes for a superplex, but Badd pushes him off and sunset flips him off the top for two. Badd tries a powerbomb (like earlier in the match) but it's reversed to a rana for two by Pillman. The psychology here is positively All Japan-ish. Pillman with a crucifix, countered into a fallaway slam by Badd for two. Badd hits the top rope rana for two. He tries again, but Pillman reverses to the tornado DDT, this time hitting it for two. Pillman goes to the top, but he's knocked off and to the steel railing where he hits his jaw. He does that spot all the time, and it always looks great. Badd nails the somersault plancha for good measure. Back in, but when Badd tries the slingshot legdrop again, Pillman counters and it misses. I'm really digging the psychology here. Pillman tosses Badd and hits a tope suicida, which is really amazing considering the shape his body was in at the time. He goes for a springboard dropkick, but misses and crotches himself on the top rope. They criss-cross and Pillman tries a cross-body, but Badd uses his weight advantage to fall on top of Pillman for the pin at 29:57. Just a spectacular match. ****1/4 Ric Flair v. Arn Anderson. The resuscitation of the Horsemen was one of the few things WCW did right in 1995. This particular match came about because Flair was becoming more and more dependant on Anderson to help him win matches, and it came to a head as Vader beat of them in a handicap match at the Clash preceding this show, with Flair not pulling his weight. Anderson confronted him with years of pent-up frustration at never getting a shot at Flair's title, and they decided to have this match to get it out of their system. This was such a great storyline. They play mind-games with each other to start, with Flair taking the heel role. They exchange wristlocks, which is the worst thing you can do when wrestling Arn Anderson, because he immediately goes after Flair's arm. Flair tries to take it to the mat but gets nowhere. Arn works the armbar, so Flair reacts the best way he knows -- he chops him down. He attacks the knee, drawing a big pop. Arn gets a high knee off the second rope, then goes back to the arm. Tony and Bobby do a great job of selling the psychology and the history of the Anderson's arm-breaking tactics. Arn actually pulls out a single-arm DDT, something he learned from Bobby Eaton. They exchange shots in the corner, and AA ends up on the floor. Flair comes off the top rope with a double-axehandle, then tosses Arn back in. AA comes back, but a low blow turns the tide. Back outside the ring, as Flair takes a backdrop on the floor, and retaliates with a suplex. Back in the ring for a delayed suplex and more chops, for a two count. Arn comes back and goes for the DDT, but Flair grabs the ropes to block. He flops for good measure. He goes to the top, but AA slams him off and goes for that dreaded move, the Double Axehandle Off the Second Rope That Has Never Hit a Single Person. Luckily for Ric, it misses. I get the feeling that Arn's had that one saved up in him for so long that if he ever hit it, the poor recipiant would be dead. Flair gets the figure-four, but Arn reverses. Flair escapes and tries agian, but gets cradled for two. Now Pillman jumps onto the ring apron and talks smack to Flair, so Flair smacks him. Pillman doesn't appreciate that, and kicks Flair in the head, allowing Arn to DDT his best friend and pin him at 21:53 to the shock and/or delight of the crowd, depending on which 50% of the arena you asked at that moment. That should have effectively killed the Horsemen for good, but bigger schemes were in the works at Halloween Havoc that year... **** Eddie Guerrero (frogsplash -> pin) over Chris Jericho to win the WCW Cruiserweight Title. THE MATCH: Fall Brawl starts off with the cruiserweight title match. Eddie didn't disappoint the crowd. A huge, "Eddie Sux" echoes loudly throughout the arena. Eddie covers his ears because he just can't take it anymore. He needs Calgon, so he can be taken away. Jericho starts out with an armdrag and Eddie immediately claims Jericho pulled his hair, funny stuff. Both trade typical opening moment maneuvers until Eddie sells a shoulderblock like crazy. However, Eddie quickly gains control with several devastating European uppercuts. Eddie applies a leglock for several moments before releasing. Jericho reversed fortunes by reversing La majistral and scoring a two count with La majistral. Finally, someone gains a clear-cut advantage when Jericho lands a huge stun gun. Jericho lands a lionsault (moonsault) for a quick two count. Jericho applies an armbar, which Eddie quickly reverses and snaps Jericho throat-first on the top rope. Eddie follows up with a dropkick from behind. At this point, the match still lacked spark, but the action would soon begin and slowly build up to a great finish. Eddie applies several submission moves including a chinlock while pulling Jericho's knees back. It appeared more painful to Eddie applying the move than Jericho suffering from the punishment. Eddie releases and applies an upside down surfboard chinlock. Soon, Jericho reverses the move and powerbombs Eddie. Jericho lands an elbow following up with his patented turnbuckle whips/clothesline charge combo, but Eddie sidestepped Jericho. Eddie climbed the top rope to deliver a hurricanrana, but Jericho trips Eddie, causing Eddie to crotch himself. Jericho straddled Eddie for several moments, providing everyone with a laugh. Jericho executes a springboard dropkick sending Eddie to the floor. To the ring apron, Jericho decides to become original. Jericho tries to powerbomb Eddie from the apron to the floor. But Eddie changes momentum and Jericho executes a stun gun instead, sending both falling to the floor. To see how awesome the move was, you have to see it. They both manage to climb in the ring where Jericho eludes Eddie's patented rolling somersault and returning fire with a German suplex. Jericho wants to powerbomb Eddie, but Eddie reverses into a devastating Wrath-like chokeslam. Eddie delivered the chokeslam with huge power. Both men take their time recuperating with Eddie running into a powerslam. Jericho continues to dominate offense with a variety of huge chestdrops. Jericho pancakes Eddie. Eddie then follows up with la majistral for a two count. Jericho kicks out following up with a double bomb, (I know you're reading this Tenay) but Eddie manages to break a triple bomb attempt forcing Jericho to place Eddie on the top turnbuckle. Jericho attempts brainbuster superplex, but Eddie reverses the move to an inverted DDT variation. Jericho sold big time and Eddie followed up with a tremendous frogsplash for the clean victory. COMMENTS: Very slow beginning match with very nice build up throughout. The last five minutes saw many inventive Jericho maneuvers. However, the ending was sort of rushed which saw of a lot of no selling, which has been a major weakness of WCW in recent times. These types of matches need to last 10-15 minutes longer so the wrestlers can tell a story or continue an angle to get the storyline over. I have to say Eddie is a god in the ring, the man can make anyone look good in the ring. There was plenty of psychology around here. RATING: ***3/4 Alex Wright (German suplex -> pin) over Ultimo Dragon THE MATCH: Oh, my, Gosh, it's Alex Wright and he's even sporting new hand movements in his dance, he must be taking lessons from Hall's hand movements. Alex teases the crowd by pretending to pull his jacket off and the not doing it. Alex poses and Ultimo gains the advantage with a dropkick. Ultimo follows up with a six kick Ultimo Kick Kombo. However, Alex quickly regains control with a stun gun. Alex supplies the cure for insomnia by applying several rest holds. Ultimo regains control by punting Wright twice. Do those kicks hurt or what? And then provide some humor for the crowd by dancing when Ultimo dragon can't pull down Wright during a sunset flip attempt. Ultimo finally pulls Wright down for a two count. Oh, gosh, Wright has a fan. Look about half way up the back and a fan with a Lite beer T-shirt and beer in hand is imitating Wright's dance. This appears to be a hilarious night. Ultimo lands a suicide dive. Back in the ring, Ultimo lands a hurricanrana and both take a nasty spill. Alex and Ultimo finally rise and begin chopping each other like two old men in the late stages of a boxing match. Ultimo climbs the top rope for a moonsault, but Alex trips Ultimo causing him to crotch himself. Alex dropkicks Ultimo to the floor and follows up with a slingshot plancha. In the ring, Ultimo executes a German suplex. Both climb to the top where Ultimo blocks a superplex and executes a superbomb instead. Ultimo scores the two count with a moonsault. Ultimo scores yet another two count with a la majistral. Ultimo follows up with a super hurricanrana. Ultimo goes for the dragon sleeper, but Alex runs to the ropes.. Wright again breaks out the dragon sleeper with a jawbreaker. Wright follows up with what else, a German suplex for the win. COMMENTS: Match paralleled the Guerrero/Jericho match. Wright displayed nice character depth by heavily playing to the crowd. In the early going, Wright looked very sloppy, but immediately turned the execution rate up a hundred notches. Ultimo looked very good. RATING: ***1/4 Jeff Jarrett (Figure 4 -> submission) over Dean Malenko to win a title shot at the US Heavyweight champion at Halloween Havoc. THE MATCH: The match began with Jeff Jarrett playing his usual stalling tactics. Jarrett began by calling a timeout. Eh? Time out in professional wrestling, I don't think so. Jarrett instructs Debra McMichael to watch the match from the back. Jarrett opens with an armdrag and struts as usual. However, Malenko would pay Jarrett back with his own antics. Malenko walks over Jarrett like a dirty rug. Malenko gains early control by dropkicking Jarrett to the floor, but Jarrett applies the sleeper once back in the ring. Malenko breaks the hold and a moment later executes a superplex. Malenko slaps on the Texas cloverleaf, which Jarrett immediately climbs to the ropes to force a break. Debra decides she can't see her man getting his can kicked, so she comes down to ringside. Malenko lands a cross bodyblock sending both wrestlers tumbling to the floor. Debra consoles Jarrett and Malenko is safe at home with a baseball slide kick. (Why didn't Jarrett shrug her off?) Malenko works over Jarrett's knee by kicking it and kicking it while hung on the guardrail. In the ring, Jarrett elbows a charging Malenko. Jarrett begins to work over Malenko's knee. Malenko soon applied the sleeper and Jarrett breaking out with a side suplex. Malenko attempts a figure four, but Malenko reverses into a cradle for a two count. Malenko scores another two count with a backslide. The excitement continues as both wrestlers trade several two counts. The climax arises as Malenko no sells a kneebreaker with Jarrett following up with a chop block. Jarrett applies the Figure 4 for the clean submission victory. COMMENTS: The match displaying the weakness of WCW's booking policies and stacking PPVs with too many matches. By adding Giant vs. Norton, Malenko vs. Jarrett suffered towards the end in what was a very solid match. The classic struggle to reverse or break the figure 4 would have added more excitement. Instead, Malenko immediately submits and loses credibility. A clean pinfall was the more appropriate option, not submission. Looking at the positive aspects, the match didn't really tell a story, but it got the storyline over. Jarrett is an extremely talented wrestler, but needs to get back to his old form Vince ruined Jarrett with the "Double J" gimmick. Look for Jarrett to regain the US Heavyweight Title at Halloween Havoc. Jarrett is the most logical choice as US Champ because there can so many more feuds with Jarrett than Mongo or Malenko could provide. I'd personally like to see Jarrett hold on for six to seven months and develop feuds with Benoit, Flair, Malenko and others. RATING: **1/2 Kevin Nash, Buff Bagwell, Syxx & Konnan (Mongo quits so Flair's throat won't be slammed on -> submission) over The Four Horsemen. THE MATCH: This broken up into 7 rounds. The rules were stated in the Fall Brawl Preview. ROUND ONE: Chris Benoit begins the action with Buff Bagwell. Benoit dominated by suplexing and backdropping Bagwell on the cage. Konan celebrates outside the ring. Inside, Bagwell poses. The NWO wins the coin toss and as usual the heels win the coin toss. Can't the faces ever win a coin toss? ROUND TWO: Konan enters for the NWO. Benoit handles himself well. However, Bagwell kicks Benoit in the gut and Konan follows with a nice neckbreaker. Whoever said neckbreakers were nice? There is a first for everyone. Benoit is tossed around like a rag doll and Konan spits on Flair. That's smart to make Flair angry when he comes in, especially as a fresh man coming in. ROUND THREE: Mongo enters the ring cleaning house. The Horsemen dominate this period. ROUND FOUR: Syxx enters. Benoit manhandles Syxx and tosses Syxx into the cage. Mongo smashes Syxx's head on top of the cage. Meanwhile, Konan and Bagwell beat on Benoit. Outside, Flair loads Hennig's arm sling with a two pair of handcuffs. ROUND FIVE: Ric Flair enters and beats the snot out of Syxx, Bagwell, and Konan. Mongo executes a backbreaker on Bagwell. Flair gives Syxx the old fashion cage smash. ROUND SYXX: Nash enters and immediately executes his patented side salto on Flair. Nash catches a flying Benoit and smashes him into the cage. Nash completes the 5-7-10 split by footing Mongo in the face. A huge "We Want Sting" follows up. Flair soon regains composure by crotching the entire NWO except Nash. However, round seven soon begins and so does the massacre. ROUND SEVEN: Hennig removes his armsling and nails Mongo and Benoit with the handcuffs. Both are cuffed to the cage. The NWO beats on Flair 5 on 1. Nash grabs the mike, "Let's hear it for the boys, you're going to surrender. Football boy?" Mongo says no. Bagwell asks Benoit with Benoit saying no. Nash powerbombs Flair from the top of the cage. Bagwell tells Benoit, "You got one more chance." Benoit responds with the line of the night, "BITE ME!" Mongo finally gives up Hennig threatens to slam the cage door on Flair's head. Stupid move by Mongo, they were going to do it anyway. POSTMATCH: Hennig slams the door on Flair's face. After the PPV goes off the air, Doug Dillinger and WCW Security wipe a towel around Flair's head, which looked like flood of crimson. Flair was left extremely a bloodied mess. COMMENTS: Predictable outcome with strange finish. Since when does Flair use handcuffs? I'm having the horrible sensation the Four Horsemen may be finished. Decent War Games with excellent, but also horrible screwjob finish. Kevin Nash is basically a self-centered hypocrite. I may be offending some people, but that is how I feel about Nash. Only Nash could book such an angle embarrassing the Horsemen saying it is good for professional wrestling. I have no respect for Nash's politics and he is of lower scum than Hogan behind the scenes. No wonder Flair appeared to have something bothering him at the recent WCWSN TV Tapings. Now watch, Mongo won't be kicked out the Horsemen though the Arn trashed Luger because Luger "submitted" last year. RATING: **1/2 Raven v. Saturn. Kanyon is handcuffed at ringside for whatever reason. The usual Raven-Saturn match drags on until the Flock carries a table down to ringside and the Flock comes in. Kidman to the top, and he dropkicks Raven! Saturn with the DVD, but only gets two. Finally the crowd wakes up. Kidman runs for his life as the Flock chases him through the crowd. Saturn with the big comeback, springboard legdrop for two. Mich. Driver for two. Rings of Saturn, but Lodi forces the break. Lodi to the top but Saturn ballshots Raven and a double-whip results in a ref bump. Joy. Kanyon steals the key from the ref's pocket and Flatlines Saturn. Only gets two. Saturn pulls Lodi off the top rope (where he'd been sitting for five minutes) and DVD's him through the table. But Raven catches him with a DDT coming in. Only gets two, DVD, and it's over. One can only hope that this will finally end the feud. **1/2 The "Wargames". Here's another stupid rule change for you: The match can end at any time. DDP and Bret start, no explanation why. Boring 5 minute opening period, then Stevie Ray gets to be the next man in. Yawn. Sting is next and he livens things up a bit. Piper is next and he eyepokes everyone and punches a lot. Luger is next. I'm just overwhelmed with excitement. Kevin Nash is next and he cleans house. But Hogan comes in a minute early with a slapjack and hits everyone. Everyone, including Bret, is laid out and dead. Hogan and Stevie Ray stand triumphant and beat on Kevin Nash...until the smoke of doom fills the ring and the Warrior appears. Hogan decks him and the smoke fills the ring again and when it clears HOgan is left holding the coat. But then Warrior runs in for the dressing room and is officially back. Disciple pulls Hogan out, and Warrior is left to beat up Stevie. Hogan and Warrior stand around and wave their dicks at each other while everyone is out. Warrior kicks a hole in the cage and chases after Hogan. Meanwhile, back in the ring, DDP suddenly recovers and Diamond-cuts Stevie Ray out of nowhere for the pin. What an overbooked pile of horseshit. DUD. The worst Wargames in the history of the gimmick. Easily. There was more time spent with Hogan and Warrior yelling at each other than there was with everyone else wrestling each other. And the wrestling stopped after Nash got in, because the Warrior angle took over. Pathetic. I hope everyone involved in this farce sleeps well tonight knowing that this is what their career has sunk to: Playing dead from smoke inhalation to put over the Hogan-Warrior "feud".

God damn why can't I get someone who scores five? Flyboy and I will tie but he has the tiebreak won.

The give up 12 points and 258 yards in total offense in an overtime game...and they suck? Ummm...k.

Fuck me...Raiders win...fuck fuck fuck. 0-2.

Oh fuck...15 yard penalty on the Bungles...Raiders in field goal range.

MARINERS LOSE! Sorry off topic...come on Bungles!!!!

Holy shit the Bengals might score! Of course this is where Kitna was picked last time.

Cedric Wilson must DIE! I'm goning to tie Flyboy but lose by three points on the tiebreak. Who gives a shit about stretching the page? Like anyone is going to go back and read this whole thread when the day is over.