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The Road Warriors will be at RAW tonight in Philadelphia. The original plan was for them to work a dark match as WWE wants to evaluate them for a possible return. However, rumors backstage have it that the Road Warriors could appear on TV and put over Kane & RVD. Credit: WrestlingObserver.com

Ummm okay but I'll just do Smackdown since Heat is such an insignificant show now.

Fairly eventful week in Raw history as we come up on the 10th anniversary of one the best Raw's ever which featured two HUGE upsets. May 17, 1993 The Smoking Gunns def. Glenn Ruth & Tony Vadja The Kid def. Razor Ramon Tatanka def. Scott Taylor Yokozuna def. Kamala Marty Jannetty def. Shawn Michaels to win the Intercontinental Title May 16, 1994 Bam Bam Bigelow def. Sparky Plugg; KOTR Qualifier Diesel def. Mike Moraldo Owen Hart def. Tony Roy Earthquake def. Yokozuna in a Sumo Match May 15, 1995 Yokozuna def. Nick Barberry & Bill Weaver in a handicap match Man Mountain Rock def. Iron Mike Sharpe Bob Holly def. Mantaur; KOTR Qualifier Bam Bam Bigelow def. I.R.S. May 13, 1996 Ahmed Johnson def. Zip Vader def. Duke Droese Justin Bradshaw def. Aldo Montoya Shawn Michaels def. Hunter Hearst Helmsley May 12, 1997 Ahmed Johnson def. Hunter Hearst Helmsley by DQ; KOTR Qualifier Scott Putski def. Leif Cassidy The Legion of Doom def. PG-13 The Undertaker def. Savio Vega by DQ Rob Van Dam def. Jeff Hardy Owen Hart & Davey Boy Smith def. Doug Furnas & Phil LaFon (1st elimination), The New Blackjacks (2nd), and The Headbangers (3rd) in a four-way tag team elimination match May 11, 1998 Vader def. Barry Windham Skull (with 8-Ball stealing the pin) def. Hawk Faarooq def. Jeff Jarrett by DQ Sable def. Marc Mero Hunter Hearst Helmsley NC Owen Hart Kaientai def. Terry Funk & 2 Cold Scorpio by DQ The Rock & D’Lo Brown NC Steve Austin & Vince McMahon May 17, 1999 Road Dogg, X-Pac, & Kane NC Mr. Ass, D’Lo Brown, & Mark Henry Val Venis & The Godfather def. Jeff Jarrett & The Blue Blazer Test def. Meat by DQ The Undertaker def. The Rock in a Casket Match The Hardy Boyz & Michael Hayes NC The Brood The Big Show def. The Big Bossman Steve Austin NC Triple H May 15, 2000 The Dudley Boyz def. Al Snow & Steve Blackman Rikishi def. Kurt Angle by DQ Hardcore Crap Segment: Crash retains HC title after pinning Godfather Ho Hardcore Holly def. Chris Jericho in a hardcore match The Big Show def. T&A by DQ in a handicap match Dean Malenko & Perry Saturn def. Eddie Guerrero & Chyna Edge & Christian def. The Acolytes and The Hardy Boyz (pinned) in a Triple Threat Match for the Tag Titles Chris Benoit def. The Rock in a Submission Match May 14, 2001 Rikishi def. Kurt Angle by DQ The Hardy Boyz def. Dean Malenko & Perry Saturn Rhyno def. Crash; HC Title Match Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit def. Edge & Christian Chyna & Lita def. Ivory & Molly Holly The Big Show, The Goodfather, & Bull Buchanan def. A.P.A. & Test Kane def. Steve Austin & Triple H by DQ in a handicap match May 13, 2002 The Hardy Boyz def. Brock Lesnar by DQ in a handicap match Eddie Guerrero def. Shawn Stasiak Molly Holly def. Terri Hulk Hogan def. Ric Flair in a No-DQ Match for the WWE Undisputed Title Bubba Ray Dudley & Trish Stratus def. Steven Richards & Jazz in a HC & Women’s Title Match; Trish pins Jazz to win the Women’s Title The Big Show & X-Pac def. Bradshaw in a handicap match Steve Austin def. Booker T in a Lumberjack Match

No it wasn't and it was very well received at first with the occasional WCW run-in. It really did go south and had to change the whole direction of it after the embarassment of the Booker/Bagwell match as it was HUGE mistake to Bagwell in that match and also was in hindsight not a good idea to put as the main event of the show as WWF fans didn't pay to see WCW guys in the main event of Raw. Booker and DDP had a match on Smackdown that same week and it was very good and that would have been the better choice for the first match. They saved the angle for the time being by bringing guys like RVD and bring the ECW side into things but then of course what you said about Vince refused to make any of the WCW or ECW wrestlers seem on the same level as the WWF wrestlers.

I'm assuming you mean AFTER the angle when it didn't get the proper payoff (i.e. Steph leaving HHH for Angle) due to politics. The angle itslef up until the end was great. Oh and it hasn't been fast downturn its been very gradual. I'd say it started to turn downhill after Austin returned and the whole Rikishi heel turn that was a disaster, although I would agree the booking of Fully Loaded (especially the Taker/Angle match) blew but the overall product still remained strong in the months after it. Then of course after that the failure of the Invasion angle and then the failure of the n.W.o. return sped things up.

Chris Kanyon’s new WWE gimmick will be that he just recently returned from Tibet training under “the master” from the tree of woe. This is a gimmick very similar to that of Kevin Sullivan, which spawned the Dungeon of Doom storyline in WCW in the mid 1990s. The twist this time will be that Kanyon will be doing it with his trademarked lisp, making the gimmick a comedy/joke gimmick. credit: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Definitely don't remember this... but it couldn't have been a clean win. Crips interferes? This will come as a shock...ok not really...but your right! Well also Vince had the timekeeper "RING THE FUCKIN' BELL" too. Here is CRZ's recap of the match: CHRIS BENOIT v. LA ROCA in a nontitle submission match - WWF Judgment Day is brought to you by 3DO's Army Men: World War - this Sunday at the sold out War Memorial in...Tommy? "Louisville." Benoit wants at him while he's smelling it but referee "Blind" Tim White holds him back. Before the match starts, TREBLE H & STEPHANIE ONO appears at the top of the ramp. Rock apparently takes a gander in that direction, because when we look back at the ring, Benoit is all over Rock with kicks and elbows. Rock absorbs all of it and punches back - elbow. Benoit with a gutshot, Dragon screw legwhip! Going for an Indian deathlock - Rock grabs the bottom rope. Benoit grabs the knee and drives it into the mat. Benoit picks up the left leg for more punishment, but Rock punches, right, right, Benoit right, off the ropes, gutshot by the Rock, DDT! Rock with a stomp, stomp, stomp, elbow to the back of the head, right, Benoit chops, Rock with a right, into the ropes, reversed, Benoit catches him, knee to the gut, headbutt, Rock with two gutshots, armdrag takeover (!), Fujiwara/Kunze armbar (!!), and Benoit walks backward and laces the bottom rope with his foot. White breaks the hold. Rock stomps, stomp, kneelift, right, into the ropes is reversed, Benoit buries a knee in the gut. Commentators speculate that while Rock KNOWS the holds, he just chooses to never use 'em. Uhh. Benoit stomping. BILLIONAIRE VINCE is out to join the party. Nice snap suplex by Benoit - hell, his snap suplex is ALWAYS nice. Big backdrop driver by Benoit - Benoit going for the Sharpshooter? Got it! Ross calling it the Sharpshooter - now even invoking the name of Bret "the Hitman" Hart - what planet IS this? Rock grabs the bottom rope. Hold broken - Benoit back to stomping, right, into the ropes, reversed, Rock hits a forearm shiver and both men are down. Benoit up first - stomp. Into the corner, sternum first - Benoit grabs him in a waistlock as he backs up - German suplex - holding on for two - Rock elbows out of the third attempt, Benoit tries to grab onto the arm and hook in the Crippler crossface, but Rock punches out of it - spun around, Rock Bottom! Both men are down again. White puts on the count, despite the fact that Ross says we won't get a countout with these rules. Both men up at 8. Rock with "Iblockyourpunchyoudon'tblockmine," again, right, right, right, right, right, NOW KISS THAT RIGHT! Benoit comes back with a gutshot, chop, chop, into the ropes, Rock reverses and catches Benoit in a spinebuster! Rock going for the figure four! MAN that's an ugly figure four - Benoit screaming, but he won't give up. Stephanie up on the apron to draw over White, while behind his back Triple H comes in and grabs a tapping Benoit, pulling him to the bottom rope. White turns around, sees the rope being held, and breaks the hold. Rock is up, over to the apron and decks Triple H with a right hand. He turns back around...and falls into the Crippler crossface! Vince goes into wild gesticulations telling the timekeeper to ring the bell, then forcing Garcia to proclaim Benoit the winner. (6:50) Triple H gets in the ring and he and Benoit doubleteam the Rock - until the Rock manages to block a punch and make a superhuman comeback. Vince gets in the ring...then thinks better of it and slides out. As he starts back up the ramp, we look behind him to see CHRIS MONDAY JERICHO making his way down. McMahon, cornered, backs up - and Rock picks him up and brings him into the ring...but Triple H unloads on Rock from behind before Vince can get over the top rope. Jericho slides in and it's a Pier Four brawl. Jericho gets Triple H in the Walls of Jericho, while Rock hits Rock Bottom on Benoit. Hey, Triple H, tapping out won't help you, I think. Now X-PAC & ROAD DOGG are out...now THOSE DAMN DUDLEYZ are out with a table - it's a Pier EIGHT brawl - the Dudleyz take out DX and follow outside - now Benoit and Jericho are out - H and Rock trading punches - getting closer to the table - now H battles back and they move away from the table - now Rock getting the upper hand and they're moving BACK towards the table - man, they're milking this crowd somethin' fierce - gutshot by Triple H - Rock ducks a punch and catches him in Rock Bottom through the table! Play his music! Give us a replay! Put up the credits and WWF logo! Now switch to MTV!

Bleh...the NBA should just fold if the Lakers win this series.

Let's see Shaq puts his elbow into David Robinson's chest, misses the dunk, THEN the ref blows the whistle, Robinson fouls out.

No '99 show this week due to the NBA Playoffs. May 15, 1998 Reese def. Chavo Guerrero Jr. Fit Finlay def. Kaos; TV Title Match Goldberg def. Sick Boy; U.S. Title Match Saturn def. Chris Adams Kevin Nash & Dusty Rhodes def. The Public Enemy Randy Savage NC Sting May 17, 2000 Misfits in Action def. The Filthy Animals by DQ Hulk Hogan def. Horace Terry Funk def. The Cat; HC Title Match Scott Steiner def. Mike Awesome in an Ambulance Match Kronic def. Shane Douglas in a handicap match Ric Flair def. David Flair, Crowbar, & Daphne in a handicap match

May 13, 1996 The Steiner Brothers def. The Public Enemy Chris Benoit def. David Taylor Ric Flair def. V.K. Wallstreet The Giant NC Lex Luger; WCW Title Match May 12, 1997 Ultimo Dragon def. Juventud Guerrera; TV Title Match Dean Malenko def. Steve McMichael; U.S. Title Match Wrath def. Scotty Riggs Konnan & Hugh Morrus def. Alex Wright & Ice Train May 11, 1998 Disco Inferno def. Barry Horowitz Kidman def. Juventud Guerrera Scott Norton def. Yuji Nagata Hugh Morrus def. Jim Powers Ultimo Dragon def. Johnny Swinger Goldberg def. Len Denton; U.S. Title Match Saturn def. Jerry Flynn Fit Finlay def. Rage; TV Title Match Diamond Dallas Page def. Lenny Lane Glacier def. Sick Boy Chris Benoit def. Booker T Randy Savage def. Hulk Hogan by DQ May 17, 1999 Rey Misterio, Jr. def. Evan Karagias; CW Title Match David Flair def. Buddy Lee Parker Randy Savage & Madusa def. Ric Flair & Charles Robinson Hak NC Fit Finlay in a hardcore match Rick Steiner NC Sting; TV Title Match Curt Hennig def. Konnan Raven & Perry Saturn def. Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko Kevin Nash def. Diamond Dallas Page by DQ; WCW Title Match May 15, 2000 Sting def. Vampiro in a House of Pain Match Kornic def. Shane Douglas & The Wall; Tag Title Match Terry Funk def. The Filthy Animals in a hardcore handicap match; HC Title Match Crowbar & Daphne def. Chris Candido & Tammy Lynn Sytch; CW Title Match; Daphne pinned Sytch; title would be upheld Kevin Nash def. Mike Awesome in an Ambulance Match Horace def. Billy Kidman and Hulk Hogan (pinned) in a three-way dance Ric Flair def. Jeff Jarrett to win the WCW World Heavyweight Title

Let's see March 24 Raw scores a 3.5, this past week it also scores a 3.5. March 27 Smackdown scores a 3.2, this past week it also socres 3.2. WAR IS HELL PEOPLE!

Now you do make a good point about how it can be counterproductive to have so many matches where someone kicks out of a finisher, even if it is Wrestlemania. But the problem is that on that same night you have Kurt Angle kick out of the F-5, becoming the first ever to do so, so what the big deal be if Triple H allows Booker T to kick out and force him to hit another Pedigree? Triple H has been doing the Pedigree for eight years now and at one time when he was just a nobody midcarder it was kicked out of plenty of times but now no one is allowed to kick out of it and your DEAD once he hits it and its the only finisher that currently has that distinction. Point is Booker T kicking out of the Pedigree does NOTHING to hurt Triple H's credibility or the effect of the move and makes Booker T look strong even if he loses. Fact of the matter is in that match Booker T had only one pinfall in the entire match that the crowd bought and that is why people felt he was buried along with the finish and also now that he is back in the midcard with zero direction and fighting meaningless matches.

There is no justice in the world. Hopefully she'll get booed and heckled during her speech at graduation.

I think this poses the question of if Benoit were to wrestle The Big Show and then wrestle a bag filled with 500 pounds of shit, who would he get the better match out of? Also how many pounds of shit could Benoit wrestle and still get a watchable match out of? 1000? 2000?

Wait don't forget the Torrie/Sable bikini contest!

Essentially the object is to strap your opponent to a stretcher...exciting huh?

I direct you to a shameless plug of The Nitro Review on the General Wrestling board. http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...ST&f=30&t=31704 Mike Awesome def. Diamond Dallas Page in a Stretcher Match on May 8, 2000 edition of Nitro.

A stretcher match? Good god Russo is back! Benoit jobs to Big Show...and clean from those spoilers...wonderful.

D'oh just posted it in its own topic.

Eddie Guerrero vs. Matt Hardy Jamie Noble vs. Brian Kendrick Torrie Wilson vs. Dawn Marie Team Angle vs. Rikishi & Tajiri John Cena vs. Rhyno Big Show vs. Chris Benoit

Oh and just for fun here is a list of living IC champs who are not in the WWE for people to speculate the odds of a surprise appearance that won't happen by one of them. Jeff Hardy Chyna Jeff Jarrett D'Lo Brown Godfather Road Dogg Ken Shamrock Marc Mero Ahmed Johnson Shane Douglas Scott Hall Marty Jannetty Bret Hart Ultimate Warrior Honky Tonk Man Ricky Steamboat Randy Savage Tito Santana Greg Valentine Pedro Morales Ken Patera

Korn doing "One" sounds pretty fucking cool but the rest doesn't sound too promising but who knows someone could surprise.

Since somebody is bound to ask here is the list of active workers on the Raw roster who are former IC champs (not including HHH, Nash, or Austin): Kane Chris Jericho Rob Van Dam Test Christian Lance Storm Goldust Chief Morley (if he's reinstated in the storyline) Shawn Michaels Pretty small battle royal and that's if all 9 participate. They will probably go with an even number so figure either HBK or Morley won't be in it. I don't know why they don't just do a tournament. Oh I could see them getting cute and putting in Pat Patterson in the match.

because he just wasn't ready to go over Paul Bearer clean. haha Yes this was during the "legendary" Corporate Ministry/Union feud. Probably could have called it a no contest as it was hardly a match. Here is the recap by CRZ: WELL IT'S THE BIG SHOW v. PAUL BEARER - now THAT'S a chokeslam hand signal! No music - and no Paul Bearer. Big Show doing jumping jacks in the ring. Bearer appears at the top of the ramp and gives the "Nonono" head bob - but COMMISSIONER MICHAELS, back in flak, pushes Bearer down the ramp in comedic fashion and rolls him into the ring. Michaels joins the commentary team as we see Bearer plead for his life, saying "I'm not a rassler!" Big boot from the Big Show. Big elbowdrop. Grabbing the mic. "Excuse me, Commissioner Michaels, sir, I wonder if maybe we could waive that little stipulation and just let that long legged tattoed dead man walk his ass down here and get it capped!" Michaels says okay as we look in the ring and see Bearer lay like a slug. BONG... well here's THE UNDERTAKER. You really think we're gonna get this confrontation for free? Undertaker stops at the bottom of the ramp and does his eyeball trick. Big Show says bring it on, then comes off the rope with another elbowdrop for Paul Bearer. Whoops, here's the rest of the CORPORATE MINISTRY to gang up on him, proving that Big Show is kinda not bright. Fortunately, UNION is out, 2x4's in tow, to put a stop to all this foolishness. "Theme from Big Show" plays... (three minutes or so)