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    Syndicated Info

  2. Adam

    Booking for the 5/4 HeldDown

    Bobby, I want to punch you sometimes. Hoff's promo is edited in. We have a commerical break in the middle of a post, but no matter. HOW AWESOME IS THIS SHOW? SERIOUSLY?
  3. Because I looked at a map, and Ohio was next to Indiana.
  4. Adam

    School's Out booking thread

    Tom, you never fail to entertain me.
  5. Adam

    Feedback for 5/4 HD

    Wow. That show was great, top to bottom. Seriously. It reminded me of one of those rollercoaster-ride RAW's from 2001. Everything came off great. Zack's angle with the SWF guys, Hoff and Drek as the bastard heels, PK continuing his quest to regain the title. Everything worked this week. Well done guys. The next couple of weeks are going to be incredible, I'm telling you right now.
  6. Adam

    Booking for the 5/4 HeldDown

    Wait... they're killing off ANOTHER character on the OC? We only get the "Johnny Attempts to Fly" episode next week!
  7. Adam

    Booking for the 5/4 HeldDown

    I happen to know that everything has been recieved... except Hoff's match. BLAME HOFF IF THE SHOW IS LATE! BLAME HOFF IF THE SHOW IS LATE!
  8. Adam

    School's Out booking thread

    Send everything to me. That is, Adam.... by the 27th. I want everyting on saturday evening your time, Sunday morning my time. I've got classes at 10am Monday morning, which is about 6pm your time. So, send your stuff early, we can get it posted on the Sunday night, and everything will be lovely. If you want to, you can even start sending me stuff now. Just make sure we don't have a repeat performance of LA.
  9. Adam

    Axel segments for HeldDown

    Try and put this after the Main if you can. But if not, just put it near the end of the show. *We cut to Josh Matthews, who is still outside the Board meeting* J-MATH No sign of any movement yet guys, but what a revelation earlier tonight! Bill Watts, resigning? That’s a major shake-up to the OAOAST! I’ll be updating you on OAOAST-dot-come throughout the ev- Just as J-Math is signing off, Axel bursts through the door in a state of ANGER~! J-MATH Axel! Axel! What was the result of the meeting? Can you give us any comment on the future of the OAOAST? Axel looks at Josh, snatches his mic, and SHOVES him down like a rag doll! AXEL What was the result? WHAT WAS THE RESULT? Because of the idiocy, because of the unprofessionalism displayed by certain members of the OAOAST Roster at Living Angleously, and because of the Pay Per View being suspended for two days, guess what? I just got relieved of my position as General Manager of HeldDown. You know what that means? Not only am I pissed off, but I’m a member of the active roster again. And whoever it is that the board find to run this damn company, I’m going to make sure that they have a Presidency that’s never forgotten. Show over. Axel throws the mic at Josh’s fallen form and walks out of the shot, as HeldDown goes off the air.
  10. This one is just being edited in to the top of the show... The GM appears at the entrance way, not with a inviting smile, not with a look of sadness, and not even with a look of horniness. Instead, Axel is very serious tonight. He acknowledges the fans on the way down to the ramp, something he very rarely does. The Columbus crowd is about 80-20 for the General Manager, and while the boos win out; you can still hear faint cheers from those that have followed Axel all his career. BUFFER Ladies and Gentlemen please welcome a former two-time OAOAST Champion, and current General Manager of HeldDown…. AAAAAAAAAAXXXEEEEEELLLLL!!! Axel walks up the ring steps and enters the squared circle. A mic already in his hand, the monkeys in the truck (© Chris Jericho) cut his music, and he begins to address the crowd. AXEL Now, most of you are probably wondering why I’m out here right now instead of at the very, very special OAOAST Board Meeting tonight. Well, I’m about to leave this arena to attend that meeting. But first, I wanted to address two things regarding what turned out to be last Tuesday night, at OAOAST Living Angleously. Last TUESDAY night. Two days after the advertised date. Now, I, along with the Board of Directors, put together one hell of an April Pay Per View for you fans. I’m not in charge of Pay Per Views, but I sure as hell had input in this one. I booked matches, I promoted the event, and it was on my ass that it went off without a hitch. Now, some members of the roster decided to hold off on giving you fans what you paid to see. Some guys in the back decided to show up late for Living Angleously. “BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!” AXEL As a result of that, the Pay Per View had to be cancelled, and held Two. Bloody. Days after the advertised date, screwing not only the fans in Indianapolis, but screwing this company as well. As a result of that, the members of the locker room who decided to show up late, will be punished. They will be punished severely. Not one. Not two. Not five. Not ten. Fifteen Thousand Dollars each. For a couple of those guys, that’s more than they made actually showing up. For the others, that’s not much of a hit, but its enough that they know who they’re screwing with. So congratulations boys, that money will be coming out of your pay packet immediately. Well done. COLE Strong words from the GM, and even stronger punishments! COACH We can’t reveal who the offending roster members were, but I can assure you, they’re in the back right now, and they’re absolutely fuming! AXEL Now, on to the second matter. You see, a little over two weeks ago, I conducted an interview with Josh Matthews, where I announced two matches for Living Angleously. A HI-YAH Tag Team Championship that went ahead without a hitch. And another match, a singles match that I spent WEEKS preparing. I spent WEEKS negotiating with HI-YAH to have this singles match, and I promoted it as a ‘Dream Match’. You know the one I’m talking about. The former Twenty-Four Seven Champion, Tha Puerto Rican, versus the greatest X-Division Champion of all time, and a good friend of mine, AJ Flaire. Mild cheers for the mention of Flaire’s name, as Axel continues. AXEL Now, AJ showed up earlier than most. He showed up in the early afternoon Sunday. He was ready, he was eager, and he was damn excited about wrestling on Pay Per View again, especially in such a high profile match, and one that I knew would be a classic. AJ was ready. I then get a call. Not from PR himself, oh no. I get a call from a member of PR’s management firm. The guys that handle his bookings, his money, that sort of crap. Now, PR has a history of being late to, well, pretty much everything. But this was different. The manager then informed me that not only was PR not going to be at Living Angleously to give EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU what you paid to see, but he was taking up an offer to perform elsewhere. Well Rocky Lite, you have NO. IDEA. Who you just screwed over. Not only did you screw over AJ Flaire. Not only did you screw over HI-YAH for providing AJ Flaire. Not only did you screw EVERY SINGLE OAOAST FAN!!! COACH Joey Styles eat your heart out guys! CABOOSE Give up. Now. Axel pauses, as the fans start to actually cheer his revelations. AXEL …you screwed me. Big Red X. You want to ruin a match I booked? You want to ruin a month’s work? You don’t even have the common *bleep*ing courtesy to inform me yourself? Let me tell you, four weeks ago, I called PR. I said ‘PR, what do you think. Tha Puerto Rican versus AJ Flaire at the Pay Per View. Are you in?’ And he said ‘boss, I’m honoured. I can’t wait. The contract is signed; it’s faxed to you now. I’m ready boss, give me the ball. Give me the opportunity to step up.’ And I said ‘Well PR, here it is. Like me, like many before me, you get the chance to step up a notch with a win at Living Angleously. Don’t disappoint me.’ And that was that. I announced the match, it was all set. You want to go back on your word to me? You don’t even want to show up when the Pay Per View is cancelled and done two days later? Well, you made a mistake. You disappointed me. You screwed me. So, I’m doing this for your own good as much as anyone’s, because I know if I see your sorry 50 finisher ass in the hall in the next few weeks, I swear to god it’ll be on. PR, since you didn’t want to show up for these fans last week, then you won’t be showing up while the calendar says ‘May’. You are hereby suspended for a month, without pay. And when you come back, if you don’t improve, if you don’t show everyone here the respect they deserve by showing up to your matches, showing up to your interviews, and showing up to your appearances, a suspension will be the least of your worries. COLE …WOW. AXEL And with that out of the way, I have a meeting to attend. Let those two matters be an example to anyone else who decides to screw with who’s in charge; you will pay. “I’m on a High” hits, and Axel exits the ring, adjusting his suit, and walking back up the ramp. Exiting the arena quickly, the crowd try to take in what they just heard. COLE Well that was certainly unexpected, but you have to give the GM credit for being honest with the fans on those matters and getting them out in the open! He’s not taking any shtick from the boys in the back! CABOOSE Hey, some guys did the wrong thing, and they got punished. It’d be the same in any other working environment. Axel did the right thing here, and it was clear that he took those matters personally because of his involvement. COACH But come on guys, no PR for a month? That’s a travesty! That’s awful! Unheard of! Shocking! JR GOOD GOLD ALMIGHTY AXEL IS A CRAZY SON OF A BITCH! COLE …well that was random. We’ll be back! And there will be another one coming in a short amount of time.
  11. Adam

    Axel segments for HeldDown

    This can go in the middle of the show, that is, unless you wanted to put something else in the middle of the show. One more segment to come. COLE As we said earlier, tonight Axel is involved in a very special meeting of the OAOAST Board of Directors. Our man Josh Matthews is standing by at that very meeting to bring us the latest. Josh? *We cut to J-Math standing in front of a guarded and locked door at what looks like a office building of some description* J-MATH Guys, I’m here about five minutes from HeldDown where the One and Only Anglesault Thread Board of Directors have been meeting all day to discuss the future of this very company. OAOAST President Bill Watts left the meeting around a half an hour ago, and the General Manager of HeldDown entered soon after. I’m told by a member of the board that conclusions will be reached by the end of the night on the future of OAOAST Management. Back to Triple C in the arena. COLE Thanks Josh, and guys, what could the board be discussing? CABOOSE Well Cole, we haven’t really had a meeting such as this in the history of the company, normally things are decided by stipulations in matches and such, but as you may have noticed, in the last few months a lot of things have been happening to make the board believe that perhaps something needs to change. Pay Per Views being held days late, civil wars, invasions, I’m wondering what the outcome of tonight is going to be. As Caboose finishes, the ‘Generic OAOAST Music’ hits in the arena, causing everyone to be somewhat surprised. They are even more surprised to see who’s here though… it’s OAOAST President Bill Watts! COLE The President is here! The crowd cheer the boss, as Watts makes his way to the ring, slapping a few hands, and entering the battle ground. He grabs a mic from ringside, and claps the fans for their appreciation for a second. WATTS You know, I came out here tonight to make a very special announcement. I know I’m not around here much, being back at the office and all, but this announcement had to be said in front of the fans. I’ve been the President of this Company for a long time now, and I’ve seen so many young stars come through this place. From its founders, like CobainWasMurdered. “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAH!” WATTS AngleSault. “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHBOOO!” WATTS To guys Zack Malibu. “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHHH!” WATTS Tony Brannigan and Dan Black, Black T. “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHH!” WATTS And yes, even Hoff and Drek Stone. “BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!” WATTS I’ve seen some great stars. Watts pauses, and looks around the crowd, almost with a sadness in his eyes. COLE What’s this about, guys? CABOOSE Old bastard didn’t mention me. WATTS ..but, as with all things in life, sometimes things just have to end. COLE What? What does Watts mean by that? WATTS I’ve been thinking about this for a while, and after giving the board my thoughts tonight, we came to a conclusion. The conclusion that I will resign as President of the OAOAST. “BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!” TRIPLE C :O WATTS Now, before anyone screams conspiracy, it was my decision. I’ve been doing this for long enough. But, I will stay on as President until the Board appoint a new guy. And that’s up to the Board, and the Stockholders. I don’t know when a new President will be appointed, and I don’t know who it will be. But until that day comes, I’m honoured to continue as OAOAST President for you, the OAOAST fans. “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAH!” WATTS Thank you, goodnight, and perhaps, goodbye. The Generic OAOAST music hits again, as the Columbus crowd stand shocked at the revelation. Triple C are shocked too, they haven’t said a thing since the announcement. COLE …I’m speechless guys. This shakes everything up. Bill Watts resigning? A new President being appointed? This is insane! CABOOSE The next few weeks, and months are going to be a wild ride, that’s for sure guys. COACH Hey, maybe I can be President! CABOOSE Don’t scare me like that. COLE We gotta go to a commercial break! What a revelation! HeldDown will be back!
  12. Adam

    The One & Only Alfdogg Thread

    What was that, GrammarBoy?
  13. Adam

    Help Win This Bet

    I FUCKING KNEW THAT WAS COMING.
  14. Adam

    !~DH 72/4 rof kcabdeeF

    I just got my little segment done. I'll edit it in.
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    I need a cowardly bastard heel

    COLE Welcome back to HeldDown LIVE From Sydney, Australia Ladies and Gentlemen. Living Angleously is coming up this Sunday, just three days away! The Main Event, with the OAOAST World Heavyweight Championship on the line, Alfdogg defending against not only his AngleMania opponent Peter Knight, but Brock Ausstin as well, in a Triple Threat match! Not only that, but… Michael Cole is cut off by the sounds of [i]Renegade[/i] by Jay-Z & Eminem, signalling the arrival of a man hated by fans all over the world, Reject. COACH Well isn’t this a nice surprise guys? Joined by the incomparable former Deadly Alliance member, Reject! COLE I compare him to Randy Orton. COACH Kayfabe, Michael. The former X Division Champion strolls down to the squared circle, a white spotlight following him down to the ring. Walking up the ring steps and into the squared circle, Reject grabs a microphone from ringside, and signals for the music to be cut. COLE I wonder what’s on Rejects mind? Reject pauses for a moment, with the crowd lightly booing him, not knowing his purpose. REJECT You know, ever since I set foot in this stinking country… “BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!” REJECT …I’ve seen nothing but the ugliest women in the world, the stupidest people in the world, and the dumbest animals in the world. I mean, seriously people. And you had a holiday three days ago, what was it called? COLE Uh-oh… CABOOSE Uh, Reject, slamming a country’s people is one thing, this is another completely. REJECT Ahhh, that’s right. ANZAC Day. I didn’t know what the hell an ANZAC was, and then I found out. It’s a type of biscuit. You have a holiday for a weird snack food? The crowd are getting fired up now, with chants of ‘YOU ARE A WAN-KER! CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP!’ filling the arena. Still, Reject presses on. REJECT But seriously, someone told me what ANZAC meant. The Australian and New Zealand Armed Corps. Now I don’t know about you people, but I don’t recall exactly what the Australian army has done that’s worth celebrating. You were Britains bitchboys fo… “BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!” COLE This is gonna get ugly, the fans here are past pissed, guys. REJECT YOU WERE BRITAINS BITCHBOYS FOR A CENTURY PEOPLE! What do you have to be proud of? Huh? You went to the wrong beach and get your asses kicked in the war, and now you have a holiday for it? “AAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS-HOOOOOOLLLLEEE! AAAAAAAASSSSSS-HOOOOLLLLEEE!!!” REJECT Chant all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that your military, along with your country, is nothing but a BIG. PIECE. OF SH… THE LIGHTS GO OUT! “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!” COLE What’s this? With the arena plunged into darkness, the fans go into a frenzy. The drums start up, and the crowd EXPLODES with a huge ovation, as a Big Red X appears on the screen! COLE You don’t mess with the boss’ home country! The drums start up, with Reject being slightly confused by the situation. It is clear that these are the drums at the beginning of Millionaire’s “I’m on a High”. The guitar follows the drum beat, and the hometown boy appears, the GM, appears at the entrance ramp, sporting jeans, a Big Red X T-shirt and his old leather coat, as well as an Australian flag in hand! CABOOSE OH NOES! The music gains momentum, and Axel stops in the middle of the entrance way, flag in hand… [b][color=red]BOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!![/color][/b] …and strikes the crucifix pose, hoisting the national emblem high in the air! Axel, a look of pure rage in his eyes, places the flag in the steel steps so as to keep it upright, removes his coat and slides into the ring as the theme music continues. COLE Wow, he looks PISSED! Axel ascends the turnbuckles, striking the crucifx pose to his crowd, and leaving Reject on the other side of the ring, still flabbergasted by the situation. REJECT Wait a minute! WAIT A MINUTE! CUT THE MUSIC! CABOOSE And now he’s cutting the General Managers music off. Smart one. COACH I’m sure Axel is just out here to tell Reject what a fantastic job he’s doing with fan relations. Axel jumps off the turnbuckles and faces Reject, REJECT Now, GM, boss, what are you doing out here? This isn’t your time. This is my time. With all due respect, you don’t belong out here. So if you’d kindly vac-AHH! Axel floors Reject with a clothesline out of NOWHERE! “YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!” Reject, reeling from the blow, gets to his feet, runs at Axel… SPIIIIINNNEEEBUUUSSSTTTAAAAAAAHHHHH!!! COLE We’ve waited a while to say this. guys… TRIPLE C ...BETTER THAN HOFFS! Axel, his eyes still filled with rage, looks at the fallen Reject, and then the crowd who roar in appreciation. He points at the fallen wrestler, and the fans roar even louder, wanting their homeland hero to finish the job. AXEL BIG RED FREAKIN X MY FRIEND! Axel makes an X with his arms and then the crucifix pose, grabbing Reject, and bringing him to his feet. Axel hoists the former X Division champion in the air… …AXEL SLAM!!! “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHH!” Reject goes limp after the impact, and the crowd goes crazy! COLE THE AXEL SLAM! AXEL JUST DRILLED REJECT! COACH ABUSE OF POWER! CABOOSE Reject is out guys, he’s out! COLE Axel might not be liked by many in the states, but he’ll always be loved by these fans right here in Australia! Axel’s music begins playing, but he soon asks for it to be cut, before grabbing a microphone. AXEL You know, I’ve been sitting back these last few weeks, not doing a lot about anything. Not coming to the ring, just doing my job, and making everyone happy. That’s fine. I’m not out here to wrestle every week anymore. But that doesn’t mean I can’t still get my hands dirty when I feel its needed. And that right there, that was needed. I can handle someone badmouthing this country to a point. Its called free speech, and it’s an implied right here. But if anyone DARES to come into my country, my home… “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAH!” AXEL …in front of my fellow Australians, and badmouths the ANZACS, the men and women who made this country what it is, the men and women of this country who have fought and died for everything that I believe in, and everything that each and every one of you believe in… “YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHHHH!!!” “AX-EL! AX-EL! AX-EL! AX-EL!” The chants go up huge, and Axel relishes in them, cracking a half grin, before finishing. AXEL …if anyone dares to do that on my show, then they’d better believe I’m gonna kick their *BLEEP*ING ASS! “YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!” AXEL This is the best country in the world. Bar none. And while I might not be respected in the States for what I do, I know I can always come here and gain the respect I deserve. Thank you. The crowd applaud, and Axel begins to leave, but stops… AXEL I almost forgot… AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE! CROWD OI OI OI! AXEL AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE! CROWD OI OI OI! AXEL AUSSIE! CROWD OI! AXEL AUSSIE! CROWD OI! AXEL AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!!!! CROWD OI OI OI! YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHH!! “I’m on a High” starts up again and Axel leaves the ring, but not without grabbing the Aussie flag on the way through and slapping a few hands. The GM walks up the ramp and waves the flag to the capacity crowd at the Sydney Superdome, before exiting, as we go to a… *COMMERICAL BREAK*
  16. One time thing. Heel comes out, cuts usual heel promo bashing town (in this case, country, Australia), Axel comes out, bada bang, bada boom, cuts a 'hometown boy' promo. Axel's over in Aus like Bret was over in CA NA DA in 97. I need a character for this. Hell, give me a cowardly tag team. I don't mind. Suggestions?
  17. Adam

    I need a cowardly bastard heel

    I'll use Reject so you can use Heyross Zack.
  18. Adam

    I'm changing the name of this folder.

    Good idea, I mark for old schoolness.
  19. Adam

    Impact Spoilers

    Hey, if this ends in Joe pinning Jarrett, I'm down. If it ends in the opposite, fuck TNA.
  20. Adam

    TUF 3: The Thread

    Yeah, almost as if he's non-interested, as he knew it was coming.
  21. Adam

    We Need A Leader.

    Josh has the most intelligent post in this thread. I don't have the motivation to give an in-depth answer like that.
  22. Adam

    We Need A Leader.

    I'm lost, is Paul turning heel or NYU turning face, or the other way around?
  23. Adam

    OAOAST.com Exclusive!

    We open with a shot of Josh Matthews standing in front of a large ‘OAOAST.com’ sign, a serious, somewhat tense look on his face. J-MATH Ladies and Gentlemen welcome to this exclusive OAOAST-dot-com interview. I’m Josh Matthews, and at this time please let me introduce the General Manager of HeldDown, two-time former OAOAST Champion, Axel. Axel walks into the picture and shakes Josh’s hand, the same weird smile on his face that was present last week in Tokyo. AXEL Good to be here Josh, and its great to be talking to you OAOAST fans over the wondrous internet. J-MATH Axel, firstly, you had an announcement about the upcoming Pay Per View spectacular, Living Angleously. AXEL Absolutely. You may have noticed that one prominent member of the OAOAST roster has been absent from HeldDown this past week. That man is, of course, former Twenty-Four Seven Champion The Puerto Rican. There has been speculation that PR would not be appearing at Living Angleously, but I can assure you fans that this is not the case. Puerto will be wrestling, one on one, in a very special match that I have signed with HI-YAH, involving an individual you were privileged enough to see perform last week. So, in eight days, former Twenty-Four Seven Champion The Puerto Rican will go one on one with a good friend of mine, the man regarded as the greatest X Division Champion of all time, The Phenomenal AJ Flaire. J-MATH Axel, those two men have never met before in a wrestling ring, what made you put them together in the same match? AXEL Simple Josh, AJ’s got his game back after his second back surgery in as many years; and Puerto has always been one hell of a wrestler inside that squared circle. It’s what the traditionalists call a “dream match”, and one I intend to give them at Living Angleously. J-MATH And I believe you’re going to announce a title match here as well, a title match that features two of your young prospects that have been hitting somewhat of a professional snag lately. AXEL True. Christian Wright and Bohemoth have been struggling with their identity in the last few months, and a silly mistake got them disqualified against the Love Doctors last week on HeldDown. I think they deserve another shot, and this time, I’m sure they’ll read the HI-YAH rulebook before hand. Therefore, it is my pleasure to announce that Christian Wright and Bohemoth will challenge the Love Doctors for the HI-YAH Tag Team Titles in eight days at Living Angleously. J-MATH Another event that has to be circled on your calendar is this Thursday’s edition of HeldDown, emanating live from your homeland, Sydney, Australia. Anything you want to reveal about this Thursday? AXEL Josh, its three days before a Pay Per View. You know something interesting will happen. Last time I had the privilege of performing in front of my home crowd, I pinned Zack Malibu. While I can’t promise a repeat performance – because I know Zack wouldn’t step into the ring with me again – I can say that all those Aussies going to the Sydney HeldDown will be part of one hell of a live experience. J-MATH Because that’s what the OAOAST provides. Axel, thank you for your time this evening. Any other points you wanted to bring up? AXEL And thank you for having me Josh. What I will say is this, I had the opportunity to sit down for a great Chinese dinner with OAOAST Executive and financial backer Mr Donald Trump last night, and we were able to discuss some very important matters relating to the product in general, and the future of this company as a whole. It was a very, very productive meeting, and I’d like to publicly thank Mr Trump for his insight and vision. OAOAST fans, watch out. Some interesting times lie ahead, and I’m happy to lead everyone into our sixth year. Thank you, and goodnight. J-MATH This has been Josh Matthews with OAOAST HeldDown General Manager, Axel. *FADE OUT*
  24. ^ Exactly. The Irish Whip defies logic. Walk up to any person you see in the street, grab their left arm and try and throw them against a wall. Unless you're doing it to a midget, its not gonna happen. Now, conversely, if one were to jump up onto anothers shoulders and use their momentum to take the other over, then its more likely to succeed.
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