SuperJerk

What's this "they" shit? "They" had it imposed on them. To use a metaphor, we broke their legs and are now mad at them for not being able to walk.

Rush Limbaugh You mean like God bless Hillary. Her underdog fight even made me grow to like her a bit. I'm going to miss her. First, did you REALLY just call Hillary Clinton the underdog? Second, that ad is the kind of stuff I was afraid of, and Bill Clinton especially should have known better than to trash Obama's level of experience, given that Obama was a senator for two years when he became a candidate, not one, and by the time he assumes office he'll have been one for four years. So let me make this point about his experience. There's no magic formula that tells us how long you need to have held elected office before assuming the presidency. Compare Lincoln, FDR, and Wilson to James Buchanan, Nixon and LBJ. And what of his other relevant experience besides elective office. Should we not consider his years as a professor of Constitutional law? His time as a community organizer? What about his time as a state legislator...surely any work in a law-making body is relevant government experience, given that state legislatures are structured almost exactly like the U.S. Congress. And is experience the only qualification to be president? If it were, then Bill Richardson should have been the nominee, not Bill Clinton's wife.

I say we white folk adopt Obama as our own due to half of his lineage. Not so much because I like the guy or want him as President, I'd just find it humorous for us to take THAT away from black people too. Why can't he just be an American? I know re-vo-fuck-ing-lution-ary thought right there. Because his nomination is evidence that the racism in this country is no longer absolute. Because when Barack Obama was born, African-American oppression was still legal. He grew up in a time when African-Americans were only first beginning to have the rule of law on their side, for the first time in 400 years. And even though the legal oppression finally came to an end in 1965, social oppression still remained for a great number of years. The last signs of Jim Crow have been swept away, but the social impact of that oppression remains with us because of the impact it had on the psychological make-up of the black community. The belief that the law was not on your side, and that black people were going to have to face an uphill climb where ever they went, was passed from parents to children for centuries. Fortunately, we live in an age where today's black parents are the first generation of African-Americans to have not faced legal oppression, and the message that in America everyone has an opportunity to achieve their dreams is more likely to be taught to those children. The subconscious distrust of whites which many blacks still have now (and vice versa), which manifests itself in how blacks and white socialize and stick together, has a real chance of disappearing forever within our lifetimes. But, make no mistake about it, that has not happened yet.

Fun video of the collective punditry mocking McCain's speech from hell the other night. So...a younger, energetic and charismatic candidate running against generationally older, oratorically impaired, war hero. I'm having flashbacks from 1996.

If you think that's what I was accusing you of, then you missed my point completely. How so. You just said that I was only glad she stayed in because she damaged B.O. Hussein's chances in November. No, I didn't. I didn't say "only." I know you had 3 reasons, and one of them was "do you really think I'm sorry, even if the Republican in question is McCain, given that the alternative is B.O. Hussein". That shows me you don't care if the Democrats win or not. Your reasons for wanting her to stay in aren't the same as the reasons Clinton gives for staying in. This isn't about why YOU think she should or should not have stayed in, because this isn't about you. This is about getting a Democrat elected in November, which is not something you care about but she supposedly does. And if that was her goal, then she should have dropped out a long time ago. Since you don't want the Democrats to win, your opinion doesn't have anything to do with what's best for the party. Hillary staying in the race hurt Obama for several reasons: 1) It encouraged a contigency of supporters, who probably agree with Obama on most of the issues, to not support him because they feel their favorite was "screwed" out of the nomination. 2) It gave the Republicans extra time to define and advertise their general election message. 3) By constantly parrotting this "she won the popular vote" nonsense, she casts doubt on the legitimacy of Obama's nomination. 4) Every minute Obama spent defending himself from her attacks, was a minute that would have been better spent contrasting himself with the Republicans. 5) On several occasions, Hillary Clinton publicly highlighted the percieved weaknesses of Obama not just as a candidate, but as a possible president. Because these criticisms came from a fellow Democrat, this is ammunition the Republicans can use in TV ads later in the campaign. If she dropped out when it became mathematically impossible for her to overtake Obama's delegate lead, this could have been avoided.

Unless you still want the Democrats to win, then the fact that you changed your registration just to vote for one person is a moot point.

Your point would be? I have a black ancestor myself, but I'm still listed as "Caucasian" on my firearms license. (The only federal ID which still lists your race, btw. Fun little fact.) My point was that being black has less to do with how many African ancestors you have, and more to do with what society sees when they look at you. A point you demonstrated that you missed when you brought up your one black ancestor.

I never said that B.O. Hussein had a monopoly on hypocrisy, and I've never been any fan of the Clintons. I just liked the way she campaigned, and how hard she bruised him. Even if that's all true, so what? 1) She can easily afford it, 2) do you really think I'm sorry, even if the Republican in question is McCain, given that the alternative is B.O. Hussein? And 3) I don't care why she did it... I'm just glad that she did. You are glad she stayed in because you want Obama to lose in November. Supposedly, Mrs. Clinton wants the Democratic Party to win, and her staying in the race past her campaign's expiration date was not good for that goal.

As Ann said... hypocrites. Have we always been at war with Eastasia. It wasn't too long ago that Hillary was the one arguing that the popular vote shouldn't count. She's the one who kept trying to move the goalposts when it suited her. There's your hypocrisy. Its not hypocritical to point out that the popular vote is meaningless when no one can agree on what the popular vote totals were. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/20...vote_count.html At least in 2000, we had clear numbers to point to. She wasted everyone's time and energy, went millions of dollars into debt, and gave the Republican a head-start in the general election campaign. For what? To feed her ego.

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote the same way the Cincinnati Reds won the 1919 World Series. For her and her surrogates to continue to repeat this "fact" over and over, without acknowledging the dubious circumstances the "victory" was achieved, is intellectually dishonest. And because the popular vote is not the primary determinant of the Democratic nomination, repeating this "fact" serves no purpose except to either feed Mrs. Clinton's ego or make Obama look weaker.

The vast majority of people in this country considered "black" have white ancestors. Obama is 50% white, and still considered black. There are people in this country that have even more white ancestry than that are considered black. Being black has less to do with how many African ancestors you have, and more to do with what society sees when they look at you.

Uh, last I heard they were being seated with half a vote each. The delegates are being seated with half a vote each, but that doesn't mean the rules committee accepted the popular vote as valid. If you want to argue that that's what the delegate apportioment is based on, then you should also agree that she should only get half of the popular vote total she's claiming, and that all of the uncommitted votes were actually votes for Obama. Obama still wins.

Hate Ann Coulter if you please, but that's a knockout punch. Hillary didn't really win the popular vote, because Michigan's votes don't count. Also, the comparison between the Democratic nomination system and the electoral college is not an accurate comparison either, because one is based on proportional representation and one is winner-take-all.

A lot of other business takes place at conventions besides nominating the national ticket. Conventions are also an opportunity to present the party and candidates to the public mostly unfiltered by the news media, and give exposure to up-and-coming leaders in the party.

My thinking is this: Both the campaign and candidate of the Republican Party are fundamentally flawed. There's a HUGE undecided vote in every single one of those national polls for Obama to tap into. I think the undecides will go 60/40 in Obama's favor just based on the fact he is a better campaigner and has a clearer message to hit the Republicans over the head with. Make your own map here: http://www.270towin.com/ ______________________ A couple of good articles about the campaign... Strategy Was Based On Winning Delegates, Not Battlegrounds http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8060304268.html Who Did This To Hillary? http://www.npr.org/watchingwashington/2008...to_hillary.html

I stand behind this prediction. Chris Wallace made a really good point on Fox News earlier tonight. Hillary spent the first 2 months of 2008 doing everything she could to loose what should have been a sure-thing presidential nomination, and spent the next four months doing everything to loose what should have been a sure thing vice presidential nomination. This is really beyond understanding... http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/06/03/2264210.htm

In my view, the nomination has gone from almost kind of be nearly over to kind of nearly over! Whoo-Hoo! http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/...ffe.clinton.cnn Terry McAuliffe denies on CNN today that the race is over, and says the AP story gets in wrong. _________________________________________ Harriet Christian strikes again! "99% of the blacks don't even know why they're voting for him." "I'm hoping that in my lifetime, which I thought this time around, that I would finally see a woman President of the United States." In other words, its not okay to vote for someone just because they are black, but it is okay to vote for someone just because they are a woman.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-qGLDs...y3j3dwD912644G0 Our long national nightmare might almost kind of be nearly over.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ST2008060203019

All signs point to Clinton dropping out tomorrow night. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/02/bi...s-winding-down/ Rumor has it the Obama campaign will be rolling out around 30 superdelegates Tuesday, including 17 U.S. Senators and House Majority Whip James Clyburn. Obama will get a big bounce in the polls once Clinton drops out and endorses him.

Hence the shift in fear-mongering from Iraq to Iran.

Or because the fear of terrorism is the Republican Party's only remaining path to power. They've milked 9/11 and terrorism as masterfully as Nixon and Reagan milked the Cold War for political gain.

McCain is showing either great ignorance or willingness to misinform the public about Iran. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...o-israel-forum/ Point 1: Iran's president is not the actual leader of the country. He does have final say in foriegn policy, nor is he head of the military. Those jobs responcibilities belong to the Supreme Leader. Point 2: Iran's Revolutionary Guard is an official branch of the Iranian military, and is under the command of Iran's Supreme Leader.

In the midwest, we have cheaper gas than the rest of the country, usually. I can remember paying 89 cents a gallon around 1994.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/01/pue...rico/index.html Hillary Clinton: #1 with people whose votes don't count.