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    Dusty Rhodes wants credit for Flair DVD

    That's almost as weird as watching Starrcade 83 and seeing Flair and Steamboat being best of friends.
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    Dusty Rhodes wants credit for Flair DVD

    From the Wrestling Observer website: http://www.liveaudiowrestling.com/wo/news/...lt.asp?aID=9234 Dusty Rhodes interview by Alan Wojcik Please credit Alan J. Wojcik of http://alanwojcik.com when using thank you. Not much needs to be said except this is Alan Wojcik’s interview with “the American Dream” Dusty Rhodes conducted via telephone. Alan Wojcik: Many of today’s fans might not remember that you began your career as a villain/heel with “Dirty” Dick Murdoch in the team known as the “Texas Outlaws.” Dusty Rhodes: I think it’s important we note that heels as well as babyfaces are terms that came about from the internet and people who thought they know everything, present company excluded. I prefer the good guys/bad guys terminology. I thought it was advantageous to have begun that way. Dick and I are still together even after his death. He was my best friend. For performers in the industry going the route I did makes you a better good guy. You get a better understanding of the people. You are right in saying we were hated, maced, rioted and rocked. I loved every minute of it. AW: What led you to the Florida territory and for what promotion was it with? DR: My mentor, who I mention in so many chapters of my book that I am writing, was Eddie Graham. He was the smartest man in the business even to this day. Dick and I were working in Detroit under the Sheik and his booker Jack King. I went in to see them and gave my notice. Back then wrestling was a blueprint of the mafia with all the territories and you never ran in someone else’s turf. It was sacred, chilling and violent at times. I wanted to go on my own and try something different. Dick followed me in the room and gave his notice without knowing what I was going to say. But I told him we had been on the road 300 days and I needed a change. We gave notice, which was four weeks when you had a title. When you didn’t have any titles or TV engagements you g! ave two weeks. Well we had been to Florida in 1970. 1973-74 I became the American Dream under Eddie’s tutelage and the rest is history. AW: Wrestling historians I consulted for this interview felt your feud with former NWA world champion Jack Brisco turned you into a good guy. DR: I speak on this match in my book, which is so important in my life. The book won’t be a cookie cutter style book. I wrestled Jack in Miami Beach with the legendary announcer Frank Freeman there. He announced Ali boxing contests. Angelo Dundee was the Miami promoter for Eddie’s group, Championship Wrestling from Florida. You could feel the rumble in the fans through my interviews. I didn’t change my style that much but they felt like I was one of them. Jack was the golden boy who I learned so much from. I never told hi! m because I didn’t want to make his ego any bigger. He meant lots to me and the industry. That match was a one hour match and around the fifty minute mark, the crowd changed a little bit. I hit him with the big elbow and went for the pin. Well the referee got to two and said to break it. I thought I won the title. The fans were hitting the ring with deafening boos. I turned to see Jack’s leg on the bottom rope. That was all that happened and it was that easy. In saving the title the fans turned on him and they were solidly behind me for the rest of the match. After the match Eddie was waiting for me and he said to me, “That’s another lesson about the business, that’s how simple it is”. Pak Song and “Playboy” Gary Hart changed wrestling with our feud. As far as not having to be a body builder and promos became 75% of it. It was the Korean assassin against the American Dream. AW: During this time period of territories, wrestlers moved freely. The first one I wish to ask you about is former WWWF world champion “Superstar” Billy Graham, who was one of the most hated wrestlers. DR: We were a match made for all times. He was an unbelievable bad guy with the best body and could talk his ass off. It was when Ali, Gordon Solie and I were hot. Graham had those tye dyed shirts. We sold out all the places we worked including the Garden. In MSG we would see Andy Warhol who became a dear friend, Halston and George Steinbrenner. They came to see the show not like Pete Rose in a chicken suit. New York and Florida belonged to us. Billy was an exciting performer and we have a lifelong friendship. AW: Another champion you have faced on many occasions was multi-time NWA world champion Harley Race. I found somewhere you wrestled him for the title in MSG? DR: Actually Harley couldn’t defend the belt in MSG even though Vince McMahon Sr. was on the board of directors of the NWA. Vince Sr. was the godfather of the north as Edie Graham, Sam Mushnick, Jerry Jarrett, Bob Geigel and Jim Crockett were in control of their regions of the country. The Garden is the one place I would wrestle my last match in along with the old Tampa Armory, which we used to call the Garden of the south. Everyone came through Florida to reach their fame. Harley is a top 5 guy I made the most money and was a tough opponent. We did many consecutive one hour draws for Crockett sometimes six in a week including two matches on Sunday. Harley was the baddest SOB walking during that time. Neither! of us took time off saying I got a hang nail and need six months off while making nine million. AW: Two of you three NWA World title reigns came courtesy of Mr. Race. What went through your body when you won the title in Tampa? DR: It was such a rush as a performer and entertainer. You need charisma to succeed no matter what the field, football, baseball or basketball. We know pro wrestling is entertainment but with athletes like Wahoo McDaniel or Dick Murdoch you had great athletes who never wore the NWA World title, the emotions become full blown shoot. I remember looking across the room in my hotel that night. My body trembled looking in my bag seeing the NWA World title belt, for that second I couldn’t believe I was the NWA World champion. 800 guys across the country and I have the belt. Your peers including Sam Mushnick who was the NWA president at the time had the confidence in me to carry the title. AW: Former NWA world champion Terry Funk is still a competitor to this day. How much does the Terry of today with the hardcore matches differ from the Terry you wrestled in the 1970’s? DR: Not at all. I invented the Texas Bullrope match just as his family invented the Texas Death match. Those matches were hardcore before there was hardcore. Hardcore defined by your generation is simple, jump from a balcony into four tables. That’s not hardcore. 45 minute bullrope or death match with about 20-30 falls, one guy can’t hardly stand and is bleeding. Some fans have jumped in since there are no rails around the ring. Flying off stuff is not hardcore. Its great athletes doing great stunts. I cannot do some of this. No way could I be tossed off a cage. I am glad for them. I love the Dudley Boys to death, since Bubba does the flip flop fly. But I tell you that’s got to be painful going through those tables. But back to Terry, he hasn’t changed one bit except he’s older. He is still drawing money, putting people in the! seats. Our rivalry will last until one of us is gone. AW: Another hated rival is the monster known as Abdullah the Butcher. DR: He’s the toughest pound for pound fighter. We had the biggest feud in Florida. There is much respect between us. AW: Have you eaten at his Atlanta based restaurant? DR: The food is tremendous. He has the best ribs in town and he also has Chinese food to boot. I can’t figure out when the Chinese food is made do the Chinese people come and do the brothers come in to make the ribs? Whoever he’s got it’s the best. I grew up in a black neighborhood and my brothers and Latinos were with us. I was one of two white kids on the football team. They know I’m not being racist when I’m talking about black people cooking great BBQ. Just like white people cook great chicken fried steak. The only thing in his restaurant I am afraid of is him dressed in that white suit looking like a black Sidney Greenstreet eating up all his profits. AW: During the 80’s you and Kevin Sullivan along with his manager the infamous Abudadein had a tremendous feud. How much did Abudadein bring to Sullivan and how much was Sullivan? DR: It’s was just Kevin. When they were with Purple Haze Mark Lewin it was crazy. There was an eerie feeling about them. I had seen a group of people get their van burned because of him. They had a cult following. They believed he was the devil. In Orlando at the Eddie Graham Sports Stadium we would draw 5-6,000 people that were a mix of brothers or cowboys. They would attack his fans. I had never seen that before. When was the last time you had a fan try and jump into the ring and attack him? Today of course there are barriers and tons of security. That’s some real hatred there. One night in Jacksonville I had a 115 pound woman pull me ou! t from underneath Pak Song, holding me in her lap screaming at him, don’t hit him again. Those are great times I will never forget. AW: There is one match between you and Kevin Sullivan the fans remember. Christmas night in Tampa where Santa attacked you and it was revealed it was Jake Roberts. DR: It was a loser leaves town match. There were seven Santa’s there who were handing out candy and presents. Our match was in a cage. That was the only time I even seen fans want to hang Santa right then and there. Jake handed Kevin a rag of ether. He put me out and I left town for 90 days. We got it on tape showing it was Jake Roberts. They needed a police escort to get him and Kevin out. It was a Kabuki situation going on there. AW: What led you along with Stan Lane, Lex Luger, Ron Simmons and the New Breed (Chris Champion & Sean Royal) to go up to NWA in Charlotte in late 1986? DR: Well the NWA was Florida. The sheik was NWA. Luger and the boys came up in 1986. I was with Crockett in 1983 when I created Starrcade. I wasn’t on the show. I look at it with pride. I used to leave Florida when Jim Barnett booked me around the country as his first golden boy. I remember thinking I needed a break and there was lots of money to be made in the Mid-Atlantic territory. AW: How did you take over the reigns as matchmaker/booker of NWA and were you comfortable doing it? DR: I was destined to make movies or tell stories as I call it. I was destined to make men lots of money and sell tickets. I did some the greatest television and live events with video making. I wrote the TV and was executive producer. Jerry Jarrett and Eddie Graham were the same way. Eddie groomed me for my destiny. During 1974-1986 I was one of the two most powerful men in the industry along with Vince Jr. I’m not through either. I have one or two more creative ideas left in me, whether it is with TNA or Japan. I’m not going to stop. The story is once Dusty Rhodes gets power he becomes powerful. There aren’t many organizations out there. There is a fear of power and saying we need some help. Instead of hiring guys in the smaller terr! itories let’s get the men that helped create the road. Thy will have to pay me. You look at me and see he created all these things why isn’t he in charge somewhere? It is a struggle with the powers that be. I have my own company Turnbuckle Entertainment which you can read about on www.dustyrhodes.net. I’m entranced and taken with NWATNA. I think it has great legs and with the Carter family putting their money in it. The involvement with me is getting them notoriety. I enjoy it and a home run is being hit. AW: Thanks to WWE fans can see on the Ultimate Ric Flair DVD set and the Bloodbath: Best of steel cage matches your legendary feud with the Nature Boy. What is it like to wrestle Ric Flair in so many championship matches including the Great American Bash 1985 when you won the NWA World title for the third time? DR: You can ask Ric what’s it like to be in the ring with Dusty Rhodes. It was a legendary time. You can honestly say this is the Dusty Rhodes three DVD set with all the production I did with the interviews and matches. You think I got a lawsuit against them?? It great the fans can see the Nature Boy. At one time he wanted to go as “Rambling” Ricky Rhodes as my cousin or brother. I told him Rickus you need to be yourself and make your own name and boy did he. There is lots of respect in and out of the ring even tough we have gone different ways. I am glad he’s still making money. I enjoy getting back to the smaller shows and visiting rural America. I am glad the DVD Set is out there. There are many tapes of our stuff out there. I am su! re Vince Jr. will send me my cut real soon. AW: There have been many different incarnations of the Four Horsemen. But during the mid-1980’s Tully Blanchard, Ric Flair, JJ Dillon along with Arn and Ole Anderson ruled the NWA and attempted on many occasions to end your career. What was it like being around those men and how did it feel to have things going right in the NWA? DR: We would drive up to Mr. Crockett’s office it looked like a car lot filled with the elite cars. From Porsche, Cadillac’s, BMW’s and Mercedes. You had Magnum TA who was a young stud, destined to the heir to the throne, plus the Horseman and Ric Flair. The Horsemen were the limo riding guys just like Flair would say in his promos. They were tremendous performers in their prime. My favorite group of the Horsemen was Flair, Tully, Arn and Barry Windham with JJ. Ole was an original and JJ was the fifth wheel. It was an unbelievable time and Hollywood couldn’t write a better story. AW: 1987 was a year with two near fatal car accidents. One involved Magnum TA while the other involved Chris Champion & Sean Royal, the New Breed. For the fans give you feelings on the trio plus anything you know on the current status of Magnum. Many people are seeing him on DVD thanks to the WWE Bloodbath disc with the famous “I Quit Match” with Tully Blanchard from Starrcade 1985. DR: That was one of the greatest matches that was truly hardcore with no tables and only one chair. Magnum came up on the scene looking like Tom Selleck with such a tremendous ring presence. He had those dark blue eyes. He was the heir to the throne. He and “Hollywood” Hulk Hogan who I call Wood just to warn you, were on par with each other. Magnum could have gone into movies. But when his Porsche hit a telephone pole within 10 feet and paralyzed him. The doctors told me he had a million to one chance to ever feel anything from the neck down and he walked out of the hospital with little assistance. He has power business in North Carolina and he never stopped! working to get back. His story will be told someday. The other two young guys Champion and Royal, they were on the verge of being a great tag team but tragic things happen. Being on the road so much you never know what is coming around the corner. AW: On July 4, 1987 you entered the ominous Wargames: the Match Beyond double ring/roofed cage. Tell the fans the back story that led to that match on the Great American Bash tour. DR: Jim Crockett and I got together. I had Starrcade, the Boogie Woogie man Jam with Jimmy Valiant and the Crockett Memorial Cup. Jim wanted four PPV events. On a drive to Spartanburg to do TVI proposed an idea. I had just seen Max Max: Beyond Thunderdome with the big cage. I asked if Bill Kleinbeck our cage and ring designer could put two rings together and create a roofed cage with a door on each end. The night before I had seen a hockey game and remembered a guy being put in the penalty box. I said why not put two teams together where two guys go for five minutes. Then have a coin toss and the winning team gets a 2 on l advantage for two minutes. Then every two minutes we add a team member. Then after everyo! ne is in have the match end with a submission or surrender. It was a big money draw. The original matches were the best. But it was watered down by WCW and Eric Bischoff. I love Eric and respect him but they changed things up too much. Look at that 1st match on tape and listen to the crowd reaction to the cage being lowered. WWE now has one I think called Elimination Chamber. When we got back from TV we designed the cage on paper and the rest is history. AW: Fans might remember you held the NWA World six man tag team titles with the Road Warriors. Were you a fan of them being turned villain in the late 80’s? DR: I think with them as bad or good guys it didn’t matter. They had a real manager in Paul Ellering. They changed the way we look at tag teams. Same with the Rock n Roll Express with their speed and quickness. They had the apocalyptic look with the paint and spikes on the shoulder pads. Turning them villain didn’t make them different. Being part of the six man team with them, well I loved it. We lost Hawk recently and I think about it often all the guys that are gone. AW: Is there truth to the story that you left WCW in the early 90’s it was partially due to Jim Herd wanting you to become a villain? DR: Yes that is 100% true. Jim Herd was well… I don’t know what he was. He was not a creative man in our industry maybe he was in the pizza business. I always thought he was full of sh#$. Jim Ross used to complain about him like a SOB. I knew what was going on. Herd was running this company that was run by a family that knew the industry. He was running it like something I am not sure how to describe it. My attorney went to see him and there was lots of cash put on the table to make me a bad guy. We turned it down and he couldn’t believe it. I don’t know how he got where he did. He led the ruining of the NWA and only under Jeff and Jerry Jarrett could the NWA be remade and rebuilt. Herd destroyed TBS and WCW. TBS had built it up under our control with Mr. Turner. Even though WWE is a corporation it is run on Sunday morning at the McMahon breakfast table talking about the! ir family owned business. Sure he has brought in people from Princeton and Yale to help them but it is run by a family. WCW was sold into a corporation with so many pieces. Ted used to come down and see the Saturday night show. He made me a star just as I helped make WTBS a national network. Jim Herd ran it and there were nine different guys in to help him with very little wrestling background among them. Herd would come in and say they said you can’t do that. Who in the f$% is they, the guys on the 12th floor of the north tower?? We are driving the Saturday numbers and we were outdrawing baseball. I better cool off or our time will go by fast. AW: During the late 1980’s Ted DiBiase left Mid Atlantic and joined the WWF as the “Million Dollar Man.” He came with a valet named Virgil. Most people might know your real first name is Virgil. Did you see that as a slap from Vince McMahon? DR: Virgil Runnels is my real name. That was Vince. We understood each other or I thought we did. We were powerful together and it was his way of showing his power. Piss on me and I piss on you. It was fun but being used like that. It was a show of respect. AW: How did the WWF locker room differ from the one you left in NWA/WCW? DR: Not much different. With the WWWF and Vince Sr. it was great; he was the classiest man I have ever been around. I was his star. I ran the biggest company in 1984-85 so I took a year and a half and did what Vince Jr. asked me. Anytime I would say something it was to the wrong person who ran to Vince Jr. and told him everything. They thought I was trying to lead a takeover. I am still opinionated as you can tell. None of this is bitter grapes; it is about how great the industry is today and how much money it has made for me and Dustin. AW: One question on Dustin, did you have any apprehensions when the WWF turned him into the androgynous character Goldust? DR: At the time they did it the character was most unique thing since Gorgeous George. It changed his way of thinking and made him lots of money. He was tremendous at it. He wanted to be his own man. I was not shocked. I was glad for everyone involved. AW: What led you back to WCW in 1991? DR: Money. I wanted to become back in power. I had some unfinished business there and wanted to bring the product back to the high I had it. I had done the year and a half with Vince Jr. I loved making movies as I called it. AW: What was your reaction when Hulk Hogan first joined WCW in 1994? DR: Hogan is such a unique person. He is a movie star and someone I take my hat off to as a business man. Eric had come into power and once he dropped the name Hulk Hogan down it was on. I wanted to kick the crap out of WWF. Eric kept hitting the right buttons with the contracts of Randy Savage and the other WWF guys. They were the key to our success. Hogan tells his own stories. AW: When Scott Hall and Kevin Nash jumped in late May 1996 and Bischoff launched the New World Order did you think here is the point we take WCW over the WWF? DR: Let me say for a minute I love Randy Savage he is a dear friend to me. Hogan and Savage being part of the New World Order made it take off. It was their idea to join. It was the four Horsemen but actually it was the fourteen horsemen. They took it to the different level and kicked WWE’s ass. But it wore off and they tried to rehash it instead of creating something new. AW: Let’s switch gears before you have to go. What’s it like to wrestle “the King of Old School” MLW World and NWA Southern champion Steve Corino? DR: Corino is an American Dream wannabe. He is a clone of Tully Blanchard, Barry Windham and Dustin. He is a tremendous performer and it’s a shame he has to go to Japan to succeed. AW: There have been some rumblings with the WWE releasing Dustin in mid-January that the two of you will be working for Zero-One in the near future. Can you comment on this rumor? DR: As far as Dustin’s WWE deal it’s not my business. If he asks me for my opinion, I will offer it. We love being together on the road. As far as Zero-One I will be there January 4th wrestling for the 1st time in twelve years. I will be wrestling Steve Corino to straighten him out one and for all. I would like to get a couple of times over there with Dustin. AW: What are you feelings on NWA: TNA as a weekly PPV show? Do they need a TV deal to survive? DR: I would want it to happen for these kids to wrestle for this brand that Jeff and Jerry Jarrett have created. The guys are respectful to me. It will not work with just the PPV show. They need a national syndication deal to survive. I would like to do color with Don West and Mike Tenay. AW: You were recently paired with “Wildcat” Chris Harris and “Cowboy” James Storm (America’s Most Wanted) in their feud with Simon Diamond and Johnny Swinger. Do you think those guys and well as former NWA World Champion AJ Styles are a place for TNA to get the TV deal? DR: I talk lots about Storm and Harris. Those guys are some of my favorites in TNA. I call AJ “Opie” because he reminds me of the kid from Andy Griffith. AJ is a tremendous athlete. I have taken a big interest in moving him to the next level. AMW is kind of out of their element. They would have been tremendous in the NWA of the 1980’s. They are going to change the business like the Road Warriors did. Simon Diamond is an old school guy. I can see him wrestling for hours. You can also put Swinger in there with Abyss, Kid Kash and Sonny Siaki who I trained. There is great mixture of talent there for TNA to grow from.
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    The OaO 2003-2004 NBA Season Thread!

    Bird's looking to trade him now from what they said at halftime during the Celtics game last night. Carlisle is Bird's guy and he won't keep players who could start a mutiny. No clue where he could go though. Did Artest get along with Isiah Thomas? Because the Knicks would probably take him.
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    Last Saturdays Velocity

    from 1wrestling.com THE VELOCITY REPORT by Matt Zylbert Updated: 12/28/2003 9:45:14 PM WWE Velocity Hosted by Josh Mathews and Bill DeMott Report by Matt Zylbert - [email protected] Missed me last week? Of course you did. My explanation? More VCR problems. Now having started this week's 'five-star' Velocity Report after I found out my Bengals lost today to Cleveland, thus eliminating them from the play-offs, I'm not in the greatest of moods, especially since one, we still haven't made the play-offs since 1990, and two, I kept guaranteeing that the Bengals would make the play-offs all year, and ultimately, the Super Bowl. Guess that won't happen. With that said, and knowing I'm in a bad mood, let's skip the usual intro. Blah blah, I'm Matt Zylbert, blah blah, and THIS is the 'five-star' 1Wrestling.com Velocity Report blah blah blah. There ya go. And for the first time ever, I can no longer send it down to our buddy TONY THE CHIM for our first contest... because there's no matches. Wow, in my four-plus years doing Velocity/Jakked/Metal, I never thought I'd have to recap a recap show. Before the always-great Velocity intro, we get to hear the National Anthem, as sung from this past week's Smackdown: Christmas in Baghdad. From the WWE Studio, aka home of Confidential, Afterburn, Bottom Line (Marc Loyd's show!!!), and formerly Excess, Josh and Bill welcome us to this SPECIAL edition of Velocity, and intro the opening segment from Smackdown, featuring Vince McMahon pretty much breaking character by thanking the troops for all they've done, only to be interrupted by Santa Claus. Santa goes into the crowd to chuck shirts to the troops, before being called into the ring by VKM himself. Vincent is distraught that Santa didn't deliver him any presents, so as a result, whacks him from behind with a CLUBBY blow. We then find out that it was Stone Cold Steve Austin the whole time, and Vince gets a Stunner for his troubles. Too bad Vince didn't bring Savio Vega with him. HE knows how to take a beating from Xanta... err, Santa Claus. A highlights package airs showing how the ring was set-up. I remember they used to sometimes show highlights of the crew building the old steel cage, and time their performance. I forget what the best time was, though. Commercial SLAM of the Week: From Smackdown, Bradshaw shilacks Charlie Haas with the Clothesline from Hell, resulting in a three count for the APA. Bill DeMott uses this time to thank his brother-in-law, Victor, for helping overseas, but sadly, does not talk about his mother Ellis (Or is it Alice?). I say that because over the past few weeks, he or Josh has always managed to mention her in one way or another. As a teaser for Velocity, TUNE IN NEXT WEEK... to find out more about Ellis DeMott! Or maybe we'll discover his father's name. Anyway, Bill and Josh intro a highlights package of the superstars interacting with the troops. Commercial Back from break, Josh hughmorrusly tries to exchange two $5 Iraq bills for one $10 American bill, but Bill declines, not knowing the value. Good idea. They then intro the Eddie Guerrero/Chris Benoit match from Smackdown, which saw Eddie defeat his rival in cheating-fashion. Afterwards, Eddie and Benoit raise hands. One thing I learned during this match was that referee Jimmy Korderes is Canadian. I never knew that. More clips of the superstars with the troops airs. Hey, no DEMOTT'S TURNING POINT~! tonight? Call 911, I've been robbed 150 seconds of brilliant points! Commercial Boot of the Week: From Smackdown, after giving Rhyno a Stink Face, sore-winner Rikishi dances with two of the troops. I see Rhyno's being squashed in Iraq too. "Yeahh, who's your bagh-dad?!" says Josh to welcome us back from break. Josh, I still think your WWE's elite play-by-play man, but stealing lines from a guy who wonders how you "Shuffle your Johnson" on Velocity is unncessary. Heh, that still makes me laugh. Josh and Bill intro the John Cena rap, which was pretty good. However, if anyone is to hold a "Best John Cena Rap of 2003" award, listen to the one where John Cena proclaims Velocity to be the best show on television. I can never say enough good things about that. We then see the John Cena/Big Show match, in which Cena won with the F-U. By the way, how come they didn't tape any matches for Velocity over in Iraq? They could've had three matches: let Big Show squash Rikishi, John Cena beat Rhyno, and the World's Greatest Tag Team could've had a great match with Eddie and Benoit. More highlights are shown of the superstars with the troops. Commercial Highlights of Vince McMahon being on several news shows this week is shown. In another highlights package, Major Newlander and Sgt. Palmer explain to the superstars what to do in case of an attack. I got an idea, just let Velocity superstar Rhyno gore the enemies to death. Josh, who's wearing a helmet, and Bill welcome us back, as Josh explains how he didn't know how an army helmet could be so heavy. He hurts his hand hitting it (Besides that being a tongue-twister, maybe that's why he wasn't signed as a wrestler), before introducing the first-ever Santa's Little Helper contest featuring Torrie, Dawn Marie, and Sable. Torrie won, and then cleaned house. The only highlight here was that they played the old Val Venis pre-match music that they always used to play on Jakked/Metal during this contest. Brought back great memories. And I'm kidding, of course. I love Torrie and Dawn. Not really Sable. Highlights are presented of the superstars learning how to use a gun. Vince may not want to be near Rhyno during this whole process. Commercial Back from a commercial, Josh and Bill intro us to the final Smackdown recap of the night, that being the segment where everyone breaks character and gets along. Unless: I didn't know Torrie forgave Dawn for killing her father, as evident by them holding hands. I didn't know Shelton Benjamin was friends with the APA, as evident by how he stood with them and not with Haas. I didn't know Rhyno and Benoit were friends again, as evident by how they stood next to each other. The conclusion of all this is Big Show getting another Stunner, and that's that. Before ending the show, Josh announces a Cruiserweight Title match will be taking place on Smackdown this week, as Tajiri defends his title against Rey Mysterio. Wow, breaking news on Velocity! Josh and Bill then thank us for watching this SPECIAL edition of Velocity, and that's all she wrote. We also see that concluding highlights package that summed up the WWE's trip to Iraq. I've heard a lot of different thoughts about Smackdown in Baghdad this week, from "it was a great show, the troops deserved it" to "who cares about the troops? I expected better wrestling." I'm more towards the middle. What Vince McMahon and the WWE did for the troops was a really tremendous act, and for that they deserve a lot of credit. As a result, I didn't expect any great matches or anything, and was just amazed by the whole scene and atmosphere. The only thing I didn't like was how they constantly showed highlights of the superstars breaking character, including the end, and how are they going to explain Steve Austin's return? Week after week, they present storylines and try to make it seem as if it is real, but to have all the superstars getting along and breaking character on the exact timeslot, it kind of ruins the feeling that most viewers want to have. What they should have done is saved all those clips for Confidential, as that's its purpose. You show behind-the-scenes highlights on a behind-the-scenes show, not a main show. As far as Velocity goes, I didn't really expect anything more than highlights, as this was a total throwaway show. Remember how I say that every episode of Velocity is great every week? Not this one. A new streak starts next week. Before I go, let me remind you that the special Outside the Box column announcing the Velocity Award Winners will be up later. You, the readers, have been sending in your votes all week, and I thank you for that. Some pretty surprising winners, including a tie... in two categories. Very weird. I'll see ya later tonight or tomorrow morning for that, but until then, peeeeaaaaace. And screw the NFL play-offs, we all know my Bengals we're gonna go all the way. Matt Zylbert is still pissed about the Bengals' play-off elimination, and vows to one day find Ray Lewis and punch him in the face. He also vows that he will respond to all your e-mail, which can be sent to [email protected].
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    Smackdown Crew Happy About Iraq and other WWE news

    Is there anything Jericho does/can not do? Well, based on how this angle went to hell, I'd say write a wrestling storyline. Writing a payoff to an angle.
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    The Official MLB Offseason Topic

    With A's pitching coach Rick Peterson heading to the Mets this year, he can help them reach their potential.
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    Gregg Williams and Dick Jauron Fired

    Gruden signed a 5 year contract when he went to TB last year but I don't know if their is a buy-out or opt-out clause.
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    The OaO 2003-2004 NBA Season Thread!

    Ron Artest missed the morning shootaround saying he overslept today. He was benched the second half of Saturday night's game for what coach Rick Carlisle called "conduct detrimental to winning."
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    Gregg Williams and Dick Jauron Fired

    Atlanta is asking the 49ers permission to speak to Jim Mora Jr.
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    Weird t-shird question

    Nope. Sewing it will be too noticeable. Live and learn.
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    Big WMXX update

    Actually, the REAL ending would be that Bischoff would run in and help Vince, and Cole and guest commentator Tony Schiavone would talk about how it's the greatest sight in the sport. Then it would be revealed that Bischoff and McMahon have been working together since 1992 to get back at the other McMahon's and that the Monday Night Wars was all a big work. Bischoff would never be allowed to go over any McMahon. So the only way that would work is if it were revealed that Bischoff is actually Vince's long lost brother Rod.
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    X Files ???

    Episode 12 synopsis and notes: An old Oxford girlfriend of Mulder's asks for his help in an international case concerning the unexplainable execution of several British dignitaries and they encounter an assassin who can produce fire from his bare hands. Notes This is the second episode to provide character development as we learn a bit about Mulder's past: His rocky relationship with fellow Oxford student Phoebe Green (where they shared a certain "youthful indiscretion atop the tomb of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle), and that Mulder is deathly afraid of fire. From tvtome.com/xfiles
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    Cris Kirkwood (Meat Puppets)

    According to the report he had the guy's baton and had already hit him in the head with it. If anything I think he should have either pointed the gun and told him to stop if he had time or shoot him in the leg. If there wasn't time, then I say the shooting was justified.
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    Gregg Williams and Dick Jauron Fired

    I found this on NFL.com, where he writes a column. He is working for the NFL going to colleges talking to players about what they can expect once they join the NFL. He is also doing this now, taken from one of those columns: My title here at league headquarters is Appeals Officer. I work in the Football Operations department, and my job is to preside over the hearings when players appeal fines they received for on-field conduct.
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    What happened to the Shopping/Food folder?

    Post more food crap and bump the general chat crap onto page 2.
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    Weird t-shird question

    My understanding is that they are from zippers on pants that you dry with these shirts. The zippers have sharp edges and flying around in there they make the little holes. Your best bet is to zip and button your pants when washing and drying to avoid this. Next week, I'll cover how to properly starch your shirts.
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    Gregg Williams and Dick Jauron Fired

    Al always seems to include Art Shell in his mix.
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    Gregg Williams and Dick Jauron Fired

    I think Al Davis is going to try and find another Gruden. Someone to turn things back around. Al hopefully realized he shouldn't have let Gruden go.
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    Gregg Williams and Dick Jauron Fired

    :prays for Bill Callahan to be next:
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    Ole Anderson WOL Interview

    http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...ST&f=30&t=47487
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    Big WMXX update

    Of course it will end up in a big screwjob with no winner announced because we can't have any McMahon loosing his heat on the biggest PPV ever, can we ? Vince would definately put himself over the lesser McMahons. He'd win, but then Steph would give him a nutshot, Linda would slap him, and Shane would puss out and say I'm not like you dad, and walk away. And the show would end with Cole saying this was the greatest Wrestlemania ever.
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    wcw saturday night

    Rick Rude/Manny Fernandez vs Rock n Roll Express where Rude/Fernandez won the titles. I loved that match.
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    Things I think about at 5am

    I don't know. He reminds me of HHH in that he wants to be the main focus of every show. He comes out to start almost every show, gets the longest promos, multiple skits each show and goes over whoever he wants whenever he wants. With HHH/WWE, Vince has the final say. With TNA/JJJ, he has the final say.
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    Tag Team wrestling...

    I think they are scared that if they put potential stars in a tag team it will be too hard to get them over as a single. Brock/Batista would have gotten over huge but Vince saw Brock as a quick rise to singles gold and probably the same with Batista if he hadn't gotten hurt so much.
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    The O.C.

    I haven't heard anything about dvd yet but it may be too early since the season runs a few more months. I know Zach and I and probably a few others tape the shows so PM us and I'm sure we can work something out.
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