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An electric chair isn't really to be considered a suplex. It's more of a slam. You got me w/ the Dragon. The ocean cyclone you kind of lift them by their waist, or at least start out doing so. Tiger - you got me there, too. What's a tabletop suplex?

I'm well aware of what happened at COD4. I have the tape, like hopefully everyone else does here who is a fan of indy wrestling. "Not ONCE did I connect the beginning tribute to the ending angle. NOT ONCE." Did I say that you did? "The tribute was an out of character occurance. The ending angle definitely wasn't. Not to mention the incidents had NOTHING to do with one another. They're at two total opposite sides of the spectrum." It's obvious that it was out of character. That doesn't make it right, though. Remember Debra teasing someone with her puppies on Owen is RAW? Again, nobody can say concretely whether something like that or this is right or wrong. However, people can have opinions. I think that what was done in CZW was very distasteful. I stated my opinion quite politely in my first reply and I didn't get that same respect. Obviously Zandig was hung by meat hooks and obviously JC wasn't. However, the connection is still there. In both cases, they were meant to be crucified. Hi-V has been feuding with Zandig and this was their way of turning the heat up a notch. Zandig was lifted above the ground and hung with sharp objects in his skin that supported him. In the Bible, had the nails not been used, JC would've fallen off of the cross. So, the connection is most definitely there. Was it tasteful? I don't think so, but my opinion isn't fact. Was there a connection that one could make between the two incidents without stretching all that far? Yes, there was.

Where did I respond with insults? Ooops...I know where....I don't. When you're doing a tribute for 9/11, you don't have a guy be crucified with hooks as if he's Jesus Christ on the cross just a few hours later. Is it a fact that you don't do that? Of course not. There's no book of rationality that dictates what is polite and not polite in a situation like this. It's common sense that dictates it. I've never thought of Zandig as being impolite, irrational, or anything like that whenever I've talked to him and instead he's always been quite cordial, but his booking last night definitely seems to fall into the category of thoughtlessness.

Dace doesn't seem to be here, but I'm about 99% sure that a suplex is the following...any move where the opponent is lifted by his waist. That means that a standard, vertical, German, belly-to-belly, backdrop, side, gutwrench, etc. suplex would all fit the definition. I think I just solved everyone's question....

No, he's right. London wrestled Cena on Velocity once. He's made two appearances...one vs. Cena, the other vs. Matt.

would you shut the fuck up, thats easily the dumbest thing i have ever seen you post, and you have posted some pretty dumb things before. go back to cutting and pasting "news" because your opinion means dick. Your intellectuality is quite impressive. I hate you, too. "What does a wrestling angle have to do with a 9-11 tribute? Its not like they went out and burned a flag. They did something (albeit a little disturbing) 'ultraviolent' that they've been doing for years now. Shut the fuck up, Barber." Just ask those on DVDR. I'm not the only one. Go bitch at them, too. I know you won't though, because you'll get punked the fuck out. Nah, instead let's just all team up on Barber, even though his logic actually makes sense.

Uhhh...If they're putting on a show like this for just 10K, then they deserve a shitload of respect. CZW and ROH spend much more than that according to someone I talked to and they have virtually no big name guys, unlike Credible, Lynn, etc. who are booked on this card.

As was stated, they might as well have pissed on a picture of the Twin Towers if they're going to have something like what went down occur a few hours after doing a tribute. It's ridiculous.

Did you write that or did they???? Because some of us like the soap opera on Mondays and Thursdays....well, thursdays anyway. Anyway, although this thing aint gonna be my particular brand of vodka, good luck to all involved and all that They did. "Sorry, It's not even in the top 20." Which ones have had more intriguing cards? I mean Lynn vs. f'ing Shocker? Come on.

XPW Retribution, Redemption, BIB2, Hostile Takeover, Fallout, LOD, and NOC were all great.

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I want to buy this, but am not quite sure of the entire match listing. XPWrestling.com lists Kaos/Doring, the death match, Grimes/Douglas, and Shark Boy/Chetti. I've learned that the extras on the DVD are Juvi/Jerry Lynn and the four-way tag team match from the Pittsburgh show. I also know Sandman's segment is on there. Does anyone know if there's anything else on it? MMW/Panthers isn't on it it, by chance, is it? What about Hamrick/Malice (not that I care)? Crazy/Psychosis? Also, does it have any other extras besides the two matches I mentioned above? Thanks.

No, I live in the Northeast. but i'd go if it was near me. That's for sur.

IWA Mid-South Hardcore Wrestling will hold its debut event at the Lincoln Center (located at 2450 Lincoln Street) in Highland, Indiana on Friday night, October 24th. Highland is just over the Illinois border, minutes outside of Chicago. Already signed for the Highland debut is the IWA Mid-South return of Sabu. A lineup of matches will be announced in the coming days. For our Chicago area fans, we have a local IWA Chicago hotline set up, which can be reached at 630-585-3958. In addition to 10/24 in Highland, we will be making an announcement early this coming week pertaining to the date and location of our next show in the Louisville area. Keep checking www.iwamidsouthwrestling.com as well as the IWA hotline at 502-569-1701 for all of the latest information on upcoming events. CREDIT: IWA-MS message board

I'm gonna send in a shoe-in vote for Matt Stryker vs. Tom Carter/Reckless Youth from ROH Doe Or Die. That match was phenominal and much better than anyone expected.

I received this e-mail from Jamie Eichenlaub of NBC, Inc. and the nature of the cause immediately persuaded me to shill it. Press Release My name is Jamie Eichenlaub and I'm a member of the NPC, Inc. (Claysburg, PA) Relay For Life team, which is teaming up with Keystone Championship Wrestling (KCW) for a pro wrestling cancer benefit show Saturday, October 11 at 7 p.m. at the Frankstown Armory in Altoona. All proceeds benefit the American Cancer Society and cancer research. If you have any questions or need anything else, please let me know. Thanks, Jamie CONTACT: Jamie Eichenlaub NPC, Inc. Relay For Life HOME Phone: (814) 949-6413 WORK Phone: (814) 239-8787, Ext. 1197 E-mail: jamie.eichenlaub@npcweb.com Keystone Championship Wrestling and NPC, Inc. Relay For Life team present pro wrestling cancer benefit show Keystone Championship Wrestling (KCW) and the NPC, Inc. Relay For Life team will combine efforts for a pro wrestling cancer benefit show Saturday, October 11 at 7 p.m. at the Frankstown Armory in Altoona, PA. Tickets are $10 in advance and can be purchased at Battery Warehouse, 1632 Pleasant Valley Blvd., in Altoona, or $12 at the door. The Sandman, former ECW and WCW star and current star on the NWATNA weekly pay-per-view program, along with KCW stars Matt Vandal of Hollidaysburg and Sebastian of Clearfield will headline the show. Other wrestlers confirmed for the show are Dr. Feelgood, Youth Gone Wild (Dave Daniels and Xander Graves) with Taylor, Big Lenny, Zubov, Da Munchies (The Shiek and Dick Trimmins) Mercury Flash with Mystic, and Kasanova Kato. World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. (WWE) donated a variety of t-shirts, visors, pendants and glossy photos for a raffle drawing that will take place during intermission of the show. Raffle tickets are $1 each and can be purchased at the show. Fans who attend the show also will have a chance to win FREE t-shirts courtesy of the WWE. Visit www.kcwzone.com for more information on the raffle prizes and t-shirt giveaway. All proceeds from the show will support the NPC Relay For Life team fundraising efforts that benefit the American Cancer Society and cancer research. NPC's Relay team will donate a portion of the proceeds to assist employee Johnathan "Skunk" Dodson, 19, of Claysburg, PA, who was diagnosed with Leukemia in July. NPC's Relay team participates in the Pennsylvania Blair Region's Relay For Life to help raise money for the American Cancer Society and cancer research. The team has raised nearly $25,000 since 1996. NPC, Inc. (Claysburg, PA) is a full-service, digital and printed document services provider in central Pennsylvania. Operating since 1954, NPC remains a privately held company, employing over 400 people. KCW is a local independent pro wrestling organization that has been operating for two years in central Pennsylvania. The official registration and financial information of the American Cancer Society, Pennsylvania Division may be obtained from the Pennsylvania Department of State by calling toll free within Pennsylvania, (800)732-0999. Registration does not imply endorsement.

Some one w/ a reasonable amount of credibility and who has contact w/ Kaos told me that Kaos did not and still doesn't want to work his match vs. Messiah. I don't know if Messiah feels the same, but Kaos apparently has some heat with Messiah for whatever reason and didn't want to work the match, but gave in after learning that PCW had already begun promoting it to happen, so he didn't want to back out.

Download this week's edition in the News section of MLW.com. Featuring a Jerry Lawler interview, a Terry Funk interview, and clips of Sonjay Dutt vs. Jimmy Yang. I must say, MLW has the worst lighting of ANY promotion in the WORLD, period. It's almost unwatchable, and that's quite sad when there's Dutt and Yang in the ring together.

Thanks for the feedback. I can't wait for the match.

If interested, check out my article about the upcoming MLW match between Mexico's Most Wanted and Los Maximos/The S.A.T. at http://noholdsbarredwrestling.com/columns/.../64619320.shtml Please post any feedback in this thread. Enjoy.

Masanori Horie reports that GAORA (Channel 302 on Satellite SkyPerfectTV in Japan) - which televises AJPW, Michinoku Pro, Toryumon, K-Dojo, GAEA, and JD Star - is negotiating with NWA-TNA to purchase the rights to air its program in Japan.

B-Boy/SD vs. Briscoes?!?!?! Hell yeah!

This isnt the first time CZW/Z1 have had talks. Zandig called Z1 in early 2002 in regards to starting a talent exchange and his call was never returned. I don't know why Z1 is suddenly so interested in bringing CZW wrestlers to Japan. I'd rather see CZW stay here in the US b/c I don't know what a "Toned down version" of their hardcore wrestlers would be like. It could be somewhat fun, though.

And Abby was such a mainstay in those two feds? Not to mention Bruiser Brody, another guy Corino could be compared to. Where was his North American mainstream success? I really enjoy Corino. I thought his ECW stuff was really good and he was one of the best, if not the very best, reasons to watch ECW in it's dying days. His feud with Dusty was excellent. And on top of that Team Corino was great. Both Rhyno and Tajiri got their start as members of Team Corino and got the rub from Corino to start their pushes. Long live the King of the Old School. Abby worked in WCW. Corino didn't. Abby was in the Wargames cage match and some other memorable bouts. Wasn't there for long, but was a key guy while there. You have a point w/ Brody, but Brody was around for MUCH longer than Corino. How long has Corino been wrestling? How long did Brody wrestle before his death?

Check out my recent interview with one half of ROH's Carnage Crew tag team, the one and only referee/hardcore wrestler HC LOC over in the Newsboard section of http://www.NoHoldsBarredWrestling.com. Any feedback can be posted here.