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Rebel talks about it at http://www.prowrestlingunplugged.com/radio/rebel.m3u. For anyone who has criticized me as someone who doesn't know what they're talking about Rebel's relationship with Zandig, this confirms everything I've said all along. Zandig has been pulling tons of shit like this for the last year and a half and Rebel has always been the guy that's had to step up in order for them to keep their license. To the guy that questioned 3PW's wet t-shirt contests, Rebel addresses that and tells why Zandig's been so unprofessional with his relationship with the athletic commission.

If anyone missed the show and wants the clip of Viscera/Gangrel's return, IM me on Piratez4v3go2 and I'll hook you up in .asf format.

Smackdown V Anniversary Special So they're saying they're gonna bring those two in for the show? Am I getting that right?

What was the commercial? Austin and Hogan? WTF? Someone explain.

As I said, not too surprising. Zandig and Rebel's heat probably had a lot to do it, although I don't know for sure. XPW did the same thing with a chick at Exit Sandman, and it was only Sandman that got penalized because he brought her into the ring, but I guess this is different since she was an official valet.

Indeed. Plus, Rebel and Zandig have had tons of heat over the last year and a half, so this probably just set it all over the edge. This thing is really sounding too much like XPW's Philly invasion - RF rescinds on his license deal and they get a backup promoter in HWA's Joe Blackburn, etc. etc.

The footage was shot backstage at XPW New Year's Revolution in January 2002. I've seen some of the footage on Backyard Criminals and on some of the pre-released versions of the Shooting Range, and the interviews are in fact damn good, especially Vampiro's - in real life, Vamp is the most intense guy you'll find (when he was in WCW, he ran around the arena like 4 times before a show, sometimes - depending on the arena's size - the equivalent of a mile or 2 or even 3), but he's COMPLETELY out of character here, except for having his face paint on. Really speaks like you've never seen him before - no kayfabe or anything, and that's something you don't usually get from Vamp - hell, most of the wrestlers can't even break through the wall with him. So ya, from what I've seen, the documentary is recommended.

I'll send it to you over AIM if u want.

At least a month. Probably quite a bit more. The next two, possibly three parts will be slow coming out. After that, I promise it'll start picking up to substantially to a faster pace. Thanks much for your interest in it.

Coming in the next week or two (give or take...shouldn't be any more than a month): A short trailer showcasing what you can expect from the upcoming XPW: 5 Years Later music videos, and also from the written retrospective itself. Just a quick taste of what you can expect. The trailer will be about a minute long.

I entirely respect your opinion, but at least have the courtesy of achknowledging some of my comments. I just went out of my way to clarify some of my points before and achknwoledged all of your guy's comments. I don't expect a cookie or something like that, I'm just saying - what do you see in Mondo/Messiah from EPIC that was any better than Messiah/Supreme from Go Funk Yourself? Am I right or wrong about my aforementioned comments regarding Mondo's bump timing, the blatant spotfest-oriented mentality and lack of psychology towards the end, Mondo's insanely fake-looking weak kick to the head, etc.? Do you see where I'm coming from here? (Jay, PsychoDriver, etc.?) I disagree with many of Jay's points, but I entirely respect them. He said the brawling brought it down a bit. I think the brawling brought it down a lot, and unlike with Messiah/Supreme from GFY, the brawling didn't mean a damn thing. At GFY, Messiah and Supreme built up the brawling. The wrestling in Messiah/Supreme was far superior to Mondo/Messiah, surprising as it may be. Messiah and Supreme were doing Snap Suplexes, a Quebrada, a Davey Boy Smith powerslam, etc. The Superplex Suicida spot was built up far better than any of the spots in Messiah/Mondo, and in fact Messiah/Mondo didn't have any oen spot that REALLY stood out more than any of the others. Where's the climax in it. The climax in Messiah/Supreme is undoubtedly when you see Supreme superplex Messiah off the top buckle and onto a ringside bed of barbed wire, and the camera moves closer to see Messiah screaming as if he's just been shot a thousand times. They did some teriffic Irish whip reversals early in before starting to use the thumbtacks, barbed wire, and nails. Supreme actually bought some wrestling to the table in that match (i.e. the leg takedown in the beginning). What about Messiah's horrible attempt at a springboard onto the top buckle, something even non-wrestlers can do? Messiah/Supreme wrestled the match of their lives, so much so that it almost caused Messiah to retire from wrestling. It drained him. So, anyway, I think we had a pretty good discussion going about the logistics of the match and were really going beyond the surface, so to just stop and ignore anyone's points is dumb when we've come this far. I've tried to respond respectively and comprehensively to your guys' good points - do you see my perspective here? What is so special about Mondo/Messiah compared to Messiah/Supreme, any of the IWS guys' matches at TOD3, the JC Bailey/Nate Webb series, etc.? I truly don't understand, and it's not for lack of trying. Jay, have you even SEEN Messiah vs. Supreme from GFY?

I didn't make that. It was what someone sent to me to put into my XPWTV.com sig and I was fine with it. Kind of like the AFOREMENTIONED Patrick McGovern putting into his CZWFans sig something like "New Jack says he's going to anally rape Jonathan Barber with a knife." But, hey - I'm Barber, so my past is up for contention, right? Pot? Kettle? Black? Hmmm... You're right, though - this thread has suddenly become quite gheay. But as I was saying, Mondo/Messiah was a very solid match, but truly overrated by the vast majority of those who reviewed it. I personally liked their first CZW match with each other substantially more.

That has nothing to do with it. Would I have bothered writing a whole rant about it if I solely had an issue with the reviewer? Obviously not. PsychoDriver, you know me better than most people. I don't usually hold grudges. I truly didn't see anything too special in the match. The execution was OK, I wholeheartedly believe that the psychology was really minimal regardless of what Jay's review says). Mondo mistimed his big bump off the ringpost, and the similar bump by Messiah looked somewhat awkward. Towards, the end, it was just nonstop spots - Fall from Grace, Assault Driver, German Suplex, Crucifix Bomb, etc. Messiah drops off Mondo's shoulders and does a German. Where's the psychology that's spoken of? I agree with Jay that the buildup to the violence was executed brilliantly, but from a purely technical standpoint, the psychology was very minimal. No wrestling sequences to set up those spots. Just the spots done with mostly no transitioning. The same can't be said at all about Messiah vs. Supreme from Go Funk Yourself. In that match, they built up the use of the barbed-wire board and bed of nails to near perfection. That match was as innovative as they come. In the EPIC match, Mondo's kick to the back of Messiah's head in the last two or three minutes was perhaps the fakest, most weakest attempt at a stiff kick I've ever seen (and if you've seen your fair share of Mondo matches, you know well that he tries to kick hard, and often succeeds, but he most certainly didn't here). You're really going to tell me that a match with all of those mistakes is ****+ and better than Messiah/Supreme GFY? Look, I liked the match and all, but it was nothing compared to the hype it gets, IMHO. Not to mention you could see Messiah calling spots clear as day, something I know for a fact his trainer (XPW's Carlito Montana) taught him never to do which makes me all the more disappointed. EDIT: And Jay, the back body drop onto the ladder spot towards the beginning was about as choreographed as they come. I saw from a mile away Messiah was gonna reverse and catapult him over his head into the ladder. Also, the leadup to the spot with Messiah taking the bump out to ringside wasn't executed too good by Mondo. He *walked* into Messiah's back elbow. And then Messiah couldn't even do a damn springboard to the top turnbuckle. I've seen non-wrestlers get in the ring after shows and do that. I liked the match. I really did. But I didn't like it nearly as much as the hype made me expect I would. I'm so popular, Mike Johnson felt the need to come up to me at an ROH show and call me an asshole. I've gotten interviews with wrestlers with little problem thanks to my credentials. Do those count?

Oh, OK. Sorry about the misinterpretation. The heat between XPW and CZW really started around 2000, when Zandig tried to start an interpromotional deal with XPW and Black basically told him to fuck off. The Kaos issue didn't help things, obviously.

Hey, I just realized - at the end of the video, it says NWATNA.com and not TNAWrestling.com. To quote the Hurricane...wuzzupwitdat?!

I just watched a clip of him do it in IWA-MS in 2003 in the Best of IWA-MS 2003 Review MV, towards the end of the MV.

If you want the video, IM me on Piratez4v3go2 and I'll send it to you.

I've definitly seen him do it in IWA-MS a few times. I don't think he uses it much in Wildside.

Then whats the move I'm thinking of?

Chemical Imbalance: stand behind them like you're gonna hump them. Stick your hands through your knees and grab their arms. Lift them up and catch them in a Storm Cradle Piledriver. Basically an Armlock Storm Cradle Piledriver (Ric Blade's version). In Vitro Fertilization: Fisherman's Samoan Drop

It's good to see that Akuma is keeping the NAWF's tradition alive and still defending their title. I got some good memories of his matches with Spider.

Speaking of Messiah, I just saw him vs. Mondo from EPIC in full for the first time (only had seen the MV previously) and to say it was a letdown would be an understatement. Jay Doring rating this match ***** is the biggest joke I've ever heard of...talk about a bad taste in wrestling. Maximum of *** (I guess I can see ***1/2, but ANYTHING above that is ridiculous), and it doesn't even come close to Messiah vs. Supreme from Go Funk Yourself. Truly one of the most overpimped matches I've ever seen. Good stuff, but nowhere NEAR the quality people hype it as, and it's not just my tastes - as a death match, it was nothing more than great, and even that would be pushing it. I don't know what people see in it that makes it more special than some of IWA-MS, CZW, and even XPW's death match stuff.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, it's probably not worth even touching this one.

Well, Grimes is having health problems right now, so there's no way he could've done it. I don't think Webb's doing wrestling anymore since he got married to Veronica Caine, so I'm surprised they didn't pick Angel.

They announced Mongol as the third person? That sucks - I wish it was Angel or someone like that, but the show itself still looks good. AWS seems to be somewhat underrated.