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Yes, many times. But I don't want to say anything more than that because it may spoil something. But ya, I have several times.

Before I get to the interview, I want to give a quick apology for not posting the next part of this interview until now. From now on, the parts will be posted much more quickly, like one part every month or even less. I've just been so busy contacting people to contribute to a retrospective about the history of XPW, which is described above. Anyway... Over the past year, I’ve been fortunate enough to receive a number of opportunities to chat with former-independent wrestling managerial luminary “Devilish” Lee Handsome a.k.a. GQ Money. Until March 2003, GQ had been employed for more than two years by the ever so controversial XPW (Xtreme Professional Wrestling) promotion in Southern California. In XPW, GQ gained nationwide publicity as one of the most charismatic managers on the US indy wrestling circuit. He was the mouthpiece of XPW’s memorable “Enterprise” faction, with whom he has worked among an impressive entourage of pro wrestling superstars, including The Sandman, Shane Douglas, Chris Hamrick, Danny Doring, New Jack, Bill Alfonso, UK sensation “Wonderkid” Jonny Storm, and Sean “Syxx-Pac/X-Pac” Waltman. However, GQ didn’t just play a fundamental role in XPW in its ring; rather, he worked behind-the-scenes for much of his tenure with both XPW and it’s parent company, adult entertainment corporation Extreme Associates. As an employee at E.A., he directed a number of adult films and interacted on a daily basis with two of the most controversial figures in the realm of pro wrestling – Rob Black and Lizzy Borden, who were indicted on federal obscenity charges early last year. As a vital member of the backstage team of XPW and E.A., GQ was introduced first-hand to a number of the most discussed incidents on the US indy circuit in recent years, including XPW’s controversies with other federations such as EPIC, ROH, and CZW, its fallout with New Jack, and the much-talked-about Chihuahua/snake incident. Since leaving XPW, GQ has toured the US indy circuit, working with the likes of The Messiah, Christopher Daniels, and Scott Hudson in promotions such as NWA-TNA. GQ was remarkably candid during the many interview sessions he had with myself. We discussed a vast variety of topics that cover his whole career, ranging from his childhood as a pro wrestling fan to breaking into the business as a wrestler to performing as a manager in XPW and other promotions. Many of the subjects that GQ discusses have yet to be talked about by XPW officials, and I wouldn’t be exaggerating in stating that the depth of our conversations are comparable to RF Video’s acclaimed “shoot” interviews, which is why I will be posting our dialogues in segments, rather than in whole. The fragments of this interview will compound a much larger project that I am in the process of constructing, one that explores the controversial history of XPW. Granted – in the end, XPW failed, and eventually folded in 2003. However, during its existence (from 1999 - 2003), Southern California's Xtreme Professional Wrestling produced possibly the most avid debate the world of United States indy wrestling has witnessed in recent years. It all started with a pornography mogul named Rob Black and his associate, Tom Byron. Along the way, names such as Sabu, The Sandman, Shane Douglas, Chris Candido, Jerry Lynn, and Abdullah the Butcher made their presences known in XPW rings. At one point, XPW possessed a nationwide TV deal (via satellite) with America One and its home videos were distributed across the country even before those of ECW were. Even with all of these advantages, however, XPW eventually shut down, but not even it's bankruptcy has curtailed the mutterings about it. In the next half a year, learn about the formation, the rise, and the ultimate fall of a promotion that at one point had everything going for it. You've heard the utterings about Rob Black's association with ECW's Paul Heyman, but for all intensive purposes, it was all the way back in 1989 when the true roots of XPW began to take shape. Even before the XPW name was concepted, what could be considered precursors of the promotion existed, including: Verne Langdon's Slammers Wrestling Federation (Slammers/SWF); Dynamite D, Kevin Kleinrock, and Patrick Hernandez' Southern California Championship Wrestling (SCCW); and Doc Marlee's United Independent Wrestling Alliance (UIWA). Long before they were appearing across the United States on XPW home video, XPW's homegrown names were crafting their ability on the So-Cal independent circuit. Exactly one-third of the competitor's who performed on XPW's debut live event back in July 1999 credit their initial training to a man named Verne Langdon. Trained by The Fabulous Moolah and Tor Johnson many years ago, Langdon enjoyed a number of occupations before entering the world of pro wrestling. At one point, he was a highly acclaimed sculptor of monster masks, and is still regarded as one of the most celebrated "monster-makers" - as the occupation is termed - to this day. Monster-making also led to some exploration into the field of the makeup artistry. Langdon was also a very talented magician and magician, but wrestling was certainly one of his hobbies. So, in 1989, he established the "SLAM U" Wrestling Gym in Southern California and, two years later, the Slammers Wrestling Federation. Langdon is one of several names who've agreed to contribute both historical information and textual quotations to this retrospective. Other contributees will include XPW homegrown veterans such as GQ Money, Leroy The Ring Crew Guy, "White Trash" Johnny Webb, Carlito Montana, Steve Rizzono, and several others. Mainstream wrestlers who've competed for the company, such as Chris Hamrick and Mike Modest, will also speak about their time in XPW. As of now, there are a number of other former-XPW wrestlers and employees being contacted, and in the coming weeks and months, more names will be announced as playing a role in this retrospective. From the beginnings of Rob Black to his friendship with ECW's Paul Heyman, from the formation of XPW to the signings of stars such as Sabu, Shane Douglas, and Chris Candido, from the interpromotional agreements with ECW and FMW to the TV deals with America One, KJLA, and WGTW, from the creations of indy stars like The Messiah, "The Rock Superstar" Kaos, and "The Hardcore Homo" Angel to the controversies of Supreme's injury, Vic Grimes' 40 foot fall, and the New Year's Revolution 2 scandal, from the invasion of Philadelphia to the eventual folding - it, and so much more, will all be presented in "Five Years Later - The Roots, The History, and The Controversy of Xtreme Pro Wrestling." Featuring-insightful contributions from XPW alumni such as GQ Money, Leroy The Ring Crew Guy, Carlito Montana, and "White Trash" Johnny Webb, along with words from Verne Langdon, who helped break The Messiah, Johnny Webb, Homeless Jimmy, Angel, Damien Steele, Dynamite D, Carlito Montana, and others into the business. Plus - NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN, pre-XPW photos (straight from the Slammers Wrestling Federation's archives) of the XPW stars such as The Messiah, Johnny Webb, Kaos, Homeless Jimmy, Supreme, and Angel; and a great deal more. More names will be added to the list of those contributing. I'm currently negotiating with one major name to contribute, and a couple of other less well-known ones, who also had roles in XPW. A special thanks goes out to Roland Alexander and Verne Langdon for helping me get in touch with a couple of these guys. And now…part four of my interview with former-XPW worker GQ Money, known to some as “Devilish” Lee Handsome… The following part of this interview was conducted on Thursday, May 22, 2003. ME: Let’s discuss the infamous New Year's Revolution 2 ordeal . What the hell happened with the surprise that will shock the wrestling world and the new X-Girls and all of that stuff? Since the hype obviously wasn't fulfilled, do you think that people who bought tickets to the show were robbed or ripped off in terms of their expectations? GQ: I don't remember anything about new X-Girls, but the surpise? That sh*t was great. Truthfully, that was all me and Rob. Kevin was dead set against it, but Rob and I were into having fun. There never was a set name we were going for. We figured we had heard that the WWF was going to be releasing people, so we figured (that) if they did, we'd be able to pick that person up, but we also knew that the way we worded our little thing (that) we would be protected in terms of our statement. After all, this was wrestling and one of the things you do in wrestling is push buttons and play with people's emotions. The statement was, "Come witness the shocking debut you never would expect, and hear an announcement that will change wrestling forever." Here's where we fucked up...the announcement. As far as the shocking debut - in my mind, I'll always think we delivered. That shit was funny as hell because you never would have suspected two bums. "The announcement that would change wrestling" - yeah, that part was too much, but the shocking debut...(that) goes down as one of my favorite moments in XPW. (It was) Pure comedic brilliance. Robert Thomas and Perry House were two legitimate bums. We found them out in front of the building. In terms of people being robbed or ripped off? Absolutely not. The show was great. The battle royal was entertaining. Chris Hamrick made his debut. The matches were really good; it was a really strong show. It's funny because people were expecting these big things, somewhat based on my "Dirt Bert" columns (that were posted on XPWrestling.com during the hype period for the show). But, what people never realized is that those columns always hinted that the debut wasn't who they expected. It was a "read between the lines" thing. Bert would make comments about former champs calling the (XPW) office, all of which was true, but he never said it was relating to the debut. Then, in the weeks leading to the show, there were always comments made by Bert steering people off the idea that it would be a former champ. It was the fan boards that jumped on the former champ stuff, never based on what we hyped. We hyped a shocking debut, and we delivered. Plus, we delivered a great new talent (Hamrick) and a solid show. In terms of who called (he office)... lots of people - Shane (Douglas), some other WWE guys who were friends (I won't give names to protect those guys) , more so calls based out of personal friendship; nothing really business related. But we had fun embellishing. Mean Gene (Okerlund)'s been doing that for years on his hotline. Joey Styles (is) the same way. We teased and we built intrigue, but in truth we never lied. I never felt it was a false publicity stunt. Fact is, it was wrestling. It's (false hype and over hype has) been done for years. The fact that people got excited means we did a good job. The fact that people felt they had been let down is ridiculous. And something else was on that show that I can't remember, but in no way should people have felt let down. Like I said, the comedy element of the situation was brilliant, as it established the Enterprise as the company's top heel group. The debut of Hamrick (was a positive), too. If you watched the show start to finish, it was very good...(and that's the) bottom line! And if people felt so let down, why was the next show an even bigger crowd? ME: Is the rumor that XPW tried to call Messiah up right before the show in hopes of getting him, but they found out he wasn't in So-Cal at the moment true? GQ: Absolutely not. ME: What did you think of the BattleZone Match, which you surprisingly won that night? GQ: It was fun, but pretty "gay." Everyone was low blowing everyone non-stop, people's trunks were being pulled down...the match was fun, exciting, and all that. It was just very "gay." The match was fun, exciting, and all that. The end (of the bout) kind of got delayed and played out too long because people eliminated wouldn't leave the ringside area. So, Rizzono, Hamrick, and I are waiting to do the finish and no one would get out of the way. Kraq threw a chair into the ring that hit Hamrick in the back of the head...some other stuff, too. We were just like, "get out of our way already." But the finish was cool - Hamrick hit his leg drop off my shoulders. I loved that shit...and then the broomstick up the ass of Rizzo (like I said, very "gay"). He did that move because of me. When I first met him that day, I asked him about that move (the flying leg drop) because he used to do it in ECW. He wasn't sure if he was going to do it, and I was like, "Do it up...it's sweet." So there it was (in the match). Everyone thinks I booked myself to win so I can (could) get over, and that's like the furthest thing from the truth. Rob wanted me to win because it meant me vs. Webb would continue the "Webb as a paper champion" thing (angle/storyline). Obviously, I wasn't a credible world title contender and that was the joke. ME: Before we move to Free Fall, I want to ask you quickly about GQMoney.com. Why was it started? Who ran it? etc. GQ: I did it all, just as a hobby, promotional tool, and everything. It was all mine. I did what I wanted. I promoted my comedy shows on it, my game show appearance, my songs. I always had interest and career ambitions out of wrestling, so that was my venue to express those things. Before wrestling I was big on my hip-hop career. I did tons of shows in Colorado, had done a battle in LA, did a lot of radio things. I was working on my demo, and my computer crashed, causing me to lose tons of songs. I lost over a year's worth of work and that's when I stopped doing music. I was frustrated, passed my radio show on to some hungry friends, and started my wrestling career. I'm working on getting back into music again. I did the new H.I theme song, which I'll put up on the site soon (shortly after this interview took place, the Hollywood Inc. faction broke up and their site, HollywoodIncDotCom.com, stopped getting updated), and I've got a bunch of other songs I'm working on. ME: The next XPW show was Free Fall. What were your thoughts on the climax to the Grimes/Jack feud? GQ: GQ: Freefall....shiiiiiitttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That shit was crazy! It was scary! And it was also exciting. BUCK NAKED! Truthfully, Veronica was completely buck naked, but the lights...that was the intent from the beginning. Once again, anyone who really believed there wasn't going to be some gimmick was incredibly naive and stupid, for sheer legal reasons alone. But...VC (Veronica) was naked when she ran to the back. It just continued the heat on the E. It's what wrestling is all about - it built the E to become despised. Shit, that promo I cut after that match drained me. I wasn't expecting to do it (I was preparing for my match with Webb) and then I was being yelled at to go out and cut a promo on the crowd. It totally took me out of my zone and drained my energy and that's one of the reasons why the match with Webb wasn't so hot! Everyone calls it one of the worst matches in XPW title history and while I know it wasn't great, I've never thought it was as bad as people always make it out to be. ME: They do call it bad, but in all honesty, it wasn't that bad, in my opinion. I thought it was decent. Now, onto the XPW TV segments of The Enterprise (E-TV), the guest commentaries on matches, etc. God, I loved those segments! GQ: So did I. E-TV was great! My favorite time in XPW. Rob gave me full reign of those things, and I had a blast. The lead up to E-TV was great, too, with the midget and the fat chick and all that. They were both porn people - Bridget the Midget and Sindee Williams. Rob gave me the ball to write funny shit for the E, and I did. I'd give him ideas, he'd give me ideas, and we had a blast doing it Shablowme and Teninch was a great episode, as was "Right On." Yep...we just did our thing and improved everything. W e had tons of fun doing all that. That's when The E. was really on fire and when Kaos and I were really clicking together. That time period did wonder for building Kaos' "acting" and promo skills. ME: Many people say that the three E. members (Veronica, Kaos, and yourself) were closest around that time. Would you agree with that statement? GQ: Definitely. We knew we were the main faction, and we loved being in that spot ME: Was Veronica really close friends with you guys? GQ: At that point, yeah... ME When and why did TJ Rush leave XPW? GQ: When was it? Uh...I don't remember exactly...He was my roommate and all, but we had been drifting away from each other, so I'm not sure. He worked full time in the office and he had a fallout in terms of his normal work. He got fired, quit, whatever. Seems to be a common ending for most people at the office - (being) fired or wanting to quit. He just stopped having the fire to get better...Never wanted to practice. He worked in the Extreme Associates warehouse. ME: Do you still talk to TJ? GQ: No, I stopped speaking to TJ when I moved out of our apartment into my own place. This part of the interview was conducted on June 4, 2003. ME: Why did The Sandman join The Enterprise at Free Fall? He didn't seem to fit in at all. GQ: That was something Rob wanted to do. He wanted Sandman to be heel and using The E. was the best way, especially since he was wrestling Supreme (who was an arch-rival of The E.). ME: You debuted a new look at the show. Where did your new look come from? Why did you make the change your look? Do you think it was a good idea for your character, etc.? GQ: 100% Clockwork Orange. I wanted to shave my head at Free Fall, and Rob thought it was a cool new gimmick. It was a gimmick they were originally going to use me in if I was a full time wrestler when I debuted. I was originally going to be part of a tag-team called "Ultra Violence" (when I debuted in XPW), but I wanted to manage and not wrestle full-time. ME: What did you think of the match itself? There was lots of chaotic stuff, such as the Gory Guerrero Special/Flying Leg Drop you did with Kaos and your fall off the top of the cage. Were you nervous about the fall? How secure was the cage? GQ: That match was great! Fun as hell! Scary as hell! Remember, we were expecting the cage to have a full roof and we never got to go on top pre-show to even check it out, so it was a bit scary. The Gory Guerrero Special/Flying Leg Drop was cool and I loved the catapult splash from one ring to the other. I remember a point where me and Angel were brawling, and he says to me, "There's no roof!" and I was like, "Yeah, there is - over there!" and that started his climb. The cage had NO SECURITY. We thought that shit was going to collapse, especially when we were on top. I remember when both Angel and I were up top, and one of us threw a punch, and then we heard some of the fasteners snapped. I nearly shit my pants on that one. Angel and I thought we were going to be doing bumps up top and actually wrestling, but it was way too scary. So, then Kaos starts climbing up and I'm motioning to him not to, but he keeps coming. I didn't think the cage could hold all 3 of us, so Angel and I are panicking and Kaos keeps coming. So, I'm yelling to him to stay on the edge and finally...BOOM...I toss Angel, and then jump off after. After the match, Kaos told me that he thought when we were yelling at him, we were pussing out of the bumps off the cage and we were like, "Fuck, no!" We just didn't want the damn thing to collapse. The following part of the interview was copnducted on July 3, 2003. ME: When Gary Yap launched EPIC Pro Wrestling, how did XPW management react? GQ: We didn't care, but we did (both at the same time). We knew it wouldn't affect us, but at the same time we knew it would. We knew it would have an effect on talent, but we also knew the company would go out of business. They were offering guys a lot of money and it was up to the guys if they wanted to do it. We just said - or I should say Rob and Kevin just said - that "If you did that show, you weren't gonna' be doing XPW." We were amused by the whole EPIC thing, but at the same time, (we) didn't really care too much. I had spoke(n) to Gary online a few times and joked around with him. ME: Did it take a lot of convincing to stop Psychosis and Mexico's Most Wanted from working the debut EPIC show? GQ: I don't think so....like I said, we told them that most likely they would get a couple to a few shows with EPIC, but we would be going much longer. ME: Onto Liberty or Death and the Raw Sewage Match pitting Angel & Lizzy vs. you and Veronica. What were your thoughts on that bout? GQ: One of my favorites of all-time. Angel worked with Veronica and Lizzy...he taught them some stuff, and they did well. ME: You and Angel took a big fall into...well…what was that pool made up of exactly? GQ: Raw Sewage. [chuckles] OK, in truth, the concoction was nasty - mud, water, baked beans, creamed corn, chocolate powder, and toilet paper! The shit was gross, for real! I was puking backstage after the bump because it went up my nose. The tables broke perfectly. We hit dead on and it was nuts. When we went off, I saw the stars above and they just got farther away real fast like reverse hyper-speed...then....BOOM!!!! It was a long free fall. Man, I feel sorry for Vic (Grimes) because his (fall) was even bigger and while I should just let the bump be embellished, it wasn't actually 37 feet...In truth (which I probably shouldn't say) it was...27 feet. ME: There was also a "landmine" that went off during the show and caught Lizzy. What'd you guys use for that (if you're willing to reveal)? GQ: 100-% licensed pyrotechnic. In the next two weeks, expect an interview with Leroy the Ring Crew Guy, and also even more names to be announced as contributing to the retrospective. If it's OK with the mods, I was planning to post updates on the retrospective in this thread every few days, but unlike - for example - what happens on TSM during a PPV, where there's supposed to be only one thread for the show, but then five people make another thread about some guy turning heel, another five about someone debuting, etc., I'm going to keep it strictly to this thread. If that's not OK, please let me know and I'll stop posting the updates in this thread. But as I said, I'm keeping it completely to this thread, much like I did a few weeks back with the previous GQ Money interview, so hopefully that's OK.

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To clarify: You're right...kinda - I used the wrong phrase in "isn't ready." He is ready. The problem is that it wouldn't be in the best interest of his career. So, from that perspective, he's NOT ready for the big time yet because it wouldn't be in the best interest of his career; that's what I meant.

I attempted to contact Sabu for an interview through a friend of his, but - as I expected - he doesn't do interviews except in very rare situations. However, this retrospective WILL feature quotes from the hardcore legend himself from a VERY rare interview he did in 2000 where he discussed working for XPW. Also, New Jack is a remote possibility when it comes to those contributing, although nowhere near definite. More names to be added soon. So, the current list looks like: Hamrick, Modest, M-Dogg, J-Pro, Johnny Webb, Pogo, Verne Langdon, Leroy, GQ, Rizzono, Carlito, Rebel, and Grimes. You can expect at least one or two more XPW homegrown guys to contribute, a number of So-Cal indy workers who've worked for XPW, and (hopefully) at least one big-name superstar. Feel free to still drop questions for Pogo or Grimes, and also Carlito, as I'm trying to set up another interview with him that'll focus on XPW (we mainly talked about his pre-XPW career when I spoke to him last).

What the hell makes any of the people posting in this thread - hell, on the Internet - have the credentials to be able to say, "[insert name here] is ready for the WWE." Are you so obsessed with me over an issue that's been long gone for over a year that you're willing to make yourself look dumb? Because that's what you're doing by blaming me for something everyone on this board does. BTW, to answer your question - I, like most everyone else in this thread and on this board, am a fan of pro wrestling. I - with the help of millions of other fans - decide who is ready for WWE. If I don't think they're ready, I don't watch their matches when they come on WWE TV and they get fired because WWE realizes they're useless.

Joker indeed looked pretty good in that match, and pulled out some nice moves. Rave - on the otherhand - really looked out of it, for some reason. I don't know why, but he just wasn't himself. Joker and Chris Hero have wrestled one-on-one???????? Check out the bio I compiled of him here: http://obsessedwithwrestling.com He toured for NOAH in Japan for a short while. He's had a few TNA shots. He's a very good worker, in my opinion. He's got an awkward kinda look (specifically, the hair), but his workrate makes up for that.

If you think Chris Daniels should be in WWE, check out this article I wrote awhile back, basically outlining who he's not really ready yet...http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/news/indy/chrisdaniels.html

M-Dogg 20 tried to do this on Sonjay Dutt at CZW Cage of Death 4, but they messed up the spot and didn't redo it. I don't think it's ever been done successfully. It'd look cool.

Sure, I'll try: At NYR2, XPW hyped that they would unveil a surprise that would change the wrestling world forever. They challenged - by name - Dave Meltzer (who I'm going to try to get to contribute at least a few words to this retrospective, although I can't guarantee it) to cover the event and guaranteed that they wouldn't regret it becausae it'd go down as one of the most historic indy shows ever. What happened was this - they couldn't get Joey Styles, Shane Douglas, Scott Hall, or anyone else they contacted to show up, so they made an angle out of it and picked up two homeless guys who were sitting in front of the building. The Enterprise said that it was all a prank and that the fans were jackasses for believing it, because now all they had to see was...these two bums. The bums came out in street clothes and the fans were livid. The incident - to a degree - sealed the fate of XPW, at least in my opinion. They made the biggest mistake they could've made by trying to turn it into an angle and not bothering to apologize. The BattleZone match at NYR2 was a battle royal. The match at Genocide was a WCW/NWA-style Wargames Cage Match with 5 guys vs. 5 guys, but the cage was really build unsteadily, so it was constantly shaking during the match. A lot of the guys working in the match felt somewhat unsafe, and GQ and Angel were like the only two people brave enough to risk their lives and limbs to step foot on the top. The Buck Naked Match - XPW promoted that they'd have a Buck Naked match between Lizzy Borden and Veronica Caine, and that the winner would be the girl who stripped the other down to absolutely nothing. Lizzy ripped Veronica's panties and bra off, but then the lights in the arena went out before the fans could see anything, and the Enterprise came out and covered Veronica up. Some fans were unhappy, but most knew beforehand that public nudity laws would prevent them from completely going through with it. ALSO: In the upcoming retrospective, CZW wrestler and Philadelphia Athletic Commission representative and promoter's license holder ROCKIN REBEL will tell his side of the story when it comes to the RF Video license controversy when XPW first came to Philly.

In memory of XPW Night of Champions 2002: 21. When the fans start hitting a beach ball around during the main event, you know you've got a problem

I'll be doing interviews in the next week with both former-WWF, ECW, FMW, and XPW star "Vicious" Vic Grimes, and former-XPW and APW star Pogo the Clown. If you have any specific questions you want me to ask them, you can post them in this thread or PM them to me. More names of contributees will be added in the next few weeks, including some relatively big names. I contacted The Blue Meanie and Jasmin St. Claire to refute some very appalling stuff I was told about Jasmin doing when she was in XPW, and they turned down the opportunity to contribute, so they're out of the ballgame.

Undertaker, Kurt Angle, and Rock all debuted at Survivor Series.

Couple more...LOL: Over-the-Shoulder Powerslam Hold (like British Bulldog) into DDT Canadian Back Rack into Inverted DDT Fisherman's DDT Catapult DDT - slingshot over the ropes and into the ring, catching the guy in a DDT You can also do a Suicida and apron version of this, if they're standing at ringside or on the apron (in the latter, you'd DDT their head onto the apron; Frankie Kazarian used this in a PWG match, and I'm sure others have as well.). Shooting Star DDT (M-Dogg 20 had done it, and calls it the Death Star DDT) Back Springboard DDT- Charge under a guy's lariat, jump onto one of the ropes, leap backwards, and catch him in a DDT or an Inverted DDT, depending on whether or not he turns around. Hang the guys legs over the ropes and do a DDT or Inverted DDT. AJ Styles' Quebrada Inverted DDT Ya, there are a lot of versions, to say the least, LOL.

AJ Styles has done this once or twice, I think. Been done in many small indy feds. Here's a couple quick ones: - Torture Rack into Flapjack - If you've seen Vic Grimes do his Powerbomb into a Gory Special, picture him standing on middle buckle with his back facing the ring and he jumps backwards and does the move off the turnbuckles. Never been done and it's very possible, albeit kinda dangerous. - Inverted Sliced Bread #2 - Running Neckbreaker Hold into Backflip DDT (It'd be VERY hard but it's possible) - Fireman's Carry into Sitdown Inverted Powerbomb - never seen it done, but it prolly has been done, actually...

Who says Candido hasn't faced the same tribulations (drug-related) that she has? OK, I saw Tammy about 13 months ago in XPW and she looked halfway decent, she really did. She looks A LOT different now than she did then. To have changed this much in this little time really is sad. She's not the Sunny she once was.

Yup. They just had a big show a few weekends back that featured a tag team tournament in which AMIL, The DRS, The SAT, Boogalu, and other guys competed. Said to be very good. I'm pretty sure this is either the first or one of the first times they're teaming together. They definitely haven't been tagging together for more than a month, maybe two at the most.

Boogalou? I thought he was shunned by most of these guys for heading to XPW while a part of the Natural Born Sinners in ROH with Homicide. Also, funny how we haven't heard as much from him or Mack on the indies while their respective partners have been involved in some of ROH's more high profile storylines. Boogalu has been a regular in WXW and Connecticut Championship Wrestling over the past year. He's had some very good matches wtih guys like Mean Gene Snisky (sp?), All Money Is Legal, Low Ryda, The SAT, and others. BTW, AJ Styles vs. John Walters has been added to the above ICW card. I plan on attending that show, too.

Tell that to the playaz on the DeclarationOfIndependents.net forums and even the USA Pro board. hehe. Goodman is a controversial dude.

I'm gonna try to go. That's a fantastic card.

The Alternative Wrestling Shop presents it's next Live Event "A New Beginning" Saturday May 1st with a special 1:30 p.m. belltime. In the Main Event... International Superstars collide as El Vampiro meets Nosawa in a No D.Q./ No Holds Barred match. In a 4 Corners Match... Frankie Kazarian vs. Adam Pearce vs. Big Babi Slymm vs. Samoa Joe Originally announced 4th Participant B Boy will unfortunately NOT be able to compete in the match For The AWS tag Team Championship... Hardkore Kidd & Al Katrazz challenge the New (2 time!) Champions Scorpio Sky & Quicksilver The Match is finally set... As King Faviano takes on Super Dragon one-on-one. The Havana Pitbulls square off against Zokre & Phoenix Star (accompanied by the lovely American Jezebel) in tag team action. Rising Son meets the Human Tornado. Former XPW Stars collide once again... As "The Hardcore Homo" Angel teams with Johnny Webb to take on Supreme/Kaos... in a tag team match where ALL the participants are eager to prove themselves in AWS. In a one-one-one Women's Wrestling Match... "The Queen of Hearts" Desire (w/ Diablo in her corner) goes up against the very talented & capable Sara Del Ray. All this plus a Big 10 Man Tag Team Match... & More. Coming to you as always from The Frank & Son Collectible Arena in City Of Industry. 19649 San Jose Ave. 91748. Tickets are available in advance from the Alternative Wrestling Shop (Booth # 801) for $18.00 Adult general admission & $10.00 Kids 10 yrs. old & under. Day of the show $20.00 for Adults & $12.00 for kids. Call the AWS info hotline at (714)-921-4662 or via email at [email protected] for information & updates. Card is subject to change without notice. Also... Sonjay Dutt will return to AWS to face Super Dragon in the Main Event of the NEXT Live Event scheduled for May 29th. More will be announced for that card at the May 1st Show. CREDIT: SoCalUncensored message board Nosawa vs. Vamp could be great if done right. It really could. Vamp isn't awesome like Nosawa, but Nosawa could cover up his weaknesses quite well. Super D./Faviano...meh. Could be good, though. The four-way looks really good, all of the tag team matches look great...AWS's first show in months is looking good. And you can't go wrong if you're gonna bring in Sonjay Dutt, either.

You seem to be in the minority. The show got great reviews on SCU.

It's a simple Emerald Frosion. A Sitdown Over-the-Shoulder Powerslam to the side. Tommy Dreamer used it often in ECW.

Ya, it does indeed sound like a great show. Here are pics of the show: http://www.shanesphotos.com/wrestling/gallery/AWS/index.htm Also, how well did Kaos work? Did he look alright, or was he sloppy?

Whoz Dat Jumpin Out Da Da Sky?!?! R-E-Y! As the guy above said, I'd love to do Rey Jr.'s entrance. Entering the ring and commanding a pyro to go off like Kane would be cool, too. Same with riding Undertaker's motorcycle to the ring as Kid Rock plays in the background.