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I'm amazed nobody has mentioned Terry Funk. Guy jobbed to CM Punk and Johnny Webb. He's the first person who came to mind. I also nominate: 1. Al Snow. There's a reason not one person has had one thing bad to say about him. 2. Owen Hart. See Al Snow. 3. Dory Funk. Jr. Often viewed in the shadow of his brother Terry, but has helped develop the careers of so many great wrestlers. Here's some wildcards, but... 4. Chris Candido. He's had his demons, but he was all for the betterment of the business. 5. Sabu. See Candido. He is controversial and his motives have been questioned but he is one of the last few links remaining to to the TRUE kayfabe era of the biz (before it got commercialized and self-centered). He has been extremely respectful to the artform and to the history. As far as Dreamer, everybody has their critics (Corino in this case) and from firsthand experience I can say that Dreamer in one instance was slightly unprofessional with me but other than that he was extremely and the utmost professional even in a particular situation where he didn't really have to be. He's a good guy in my opinion.

Thanks for posting these Decembrists.

Thanks for posting these Decembrists.

More Rockers, More Rockers, More Rockers, please give me More Rockers matches!

The man focus is not on pushing music talent; the main focus is on the wrestling and the wrestlers

Jericholic, you're aware that Wrestling Society X will be airing every Tuesday 10-10:30 starting January 30 on MTV, right? They got tons and tons of former-XPW guys.

They also got Cabana, Teddy, Evans, Sydal, Genki Horiguchi, and YOSSINO.

Thanks for posting these Decembrists.

Thanks for posting these Decembrists!

Can somebody tell me what Sal Rinauro's "What-a-Manuever!" move is? He used to use it in NWA Wildside. I believe its either a Half Nelson Fireman's Carry Slam or a Michinoku Driver II but I'm not sure of which. Can someone confirm what it is?

Thanks for posting these.

Thanks for posting these.

Why don't we make a new thread for 2007 predictions?

That Joe/Angle segment where Angle breaks the girl's ankle was so totally illogical it's not even funny. Joe doesn't have to give him a rematch anymore because he's already broken her ankle. He said that he'd give the rematch to get him away from the girl. God that whole thing reeks of Russo, and I'm not even one of those people who really hate Russo all that much.

She wasnt at either. AVN doesn't know wrestling, they know porn.

Already been done. And it collapsed Lizzy Borden's lung. And to add to the discussion - think about the possibilities of a Shooting Star Rana.

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I actually just minutes ago watched an XPW video for the first time in many many months (it was Hardcore Conception). Revolution Will Be Televised is totally different than Hardcore Conception. HC focuses on Webb, D, Chronic, Supreme, Jimmy, Pitbulls, Big Dick, and Steele while RWBT focuses mainly on Candido and Douglas. What are the extras on Hardcore Conception and Revolution Will Be Televised? Doesn't one of them have some sort of bonus footage like titan trons (entrance videos) or something along those lines?

Sweet. Best of the E is a real good production, although its too bad they didn't have the DVD cuz the DVD extras are awesome.

So did I win?

Thanks for posting these. As far as Tazz goes, listen to his latest commentary on ECW.com and he is livid at the rumors of him planning to leave WWE.

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Lizzy quit drugs back in like '98 or '99. Her only drug now is Starbucks coffee.

Gone.

TOMMY DREAMER & BLUE MEANIE join “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job,” Lizzy turns 30, new XPW DVD in stores, and more! DECEMBER 2006 The Blue Meanie recently agreed to participate in “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job.” Meanie joins fellow ECW legends Tommy Dreamer, Shane Douglas, and Jerry Lynn, as well as world-famous adult film icon Ron Jeremy (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KF2BRGPB) who have already involved themselves with “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job.” “Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” meets The BLUE MEANIE Perennial fan favorite The Blue Meanie approached “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” wanting to participate in the historical retrospective and his offer was quickly accepted. Meanie intends to set the record straight on several topics. As the promoter of 3PW, Meanie saw first-hand and wants to set the record straight on what transpired when XPW started running shows in the Philadelphia area in August 2002. Meanie also had a lot to get off his chest about his ex-girlfriend, porn star extraordinaire and XPW diva Jasmin St. Claire. Meanie’s comments - as well as first-hand accounts from Shane Douglas and Christopher Daniels - will play a major part in the section of “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” which focuses upon the real-life downfall of inaugural XPW World Heavyweight Champion and John Cena trainer “The Real Deal” Damien Steele. “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” is honored to add the involvement of former-ECW and WWE star The Blue Meanie - who was in WWE TV main events with John Bradshaw Layfield (JBL) just one year ago - to the list of notable luminaries who are participating in the retrospective. HAPPY 30th BIRTHDAY to LIZZY BORDEN! On Wednesday night, December 21, XPW’s “Queen of Xtreme” Lizzy Borden celebrated her 30th birthday with a totally insane party which was hosted by “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job”’s own Ron Jeremy. For an article about the event, visit http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary_Navig...ntent_ID=281040 and to view photos from the crazy night, go to http://www.avn.com/gallery/view_album.php?...izzy-s-birthday. XPW AFTER THE FALL DVD released by BIG VISION ENTERTAINMENT Big Vision Entertainment - operated by former-XPW Vice President Kevin Kleinrock - has announced the release of the newest XPW DVD, “After the Fall,” which features not only cover art to die for, but also some of the best matches in XPW history, including: *the death-defying tornado (literally!) tag with Messiah & Vic Grimes vs. Sabu & Homeless Jimmy *Jerry Lynn vs. Super Crazy in one of Lynn’s greatest matches EVER (and that’s saying something!) *the epic Vic Grimes vs. Little Guido vs. Altar Boy Luke elimination match that had the rabid Viking Hall crowd on the edge of their seats *Raven vs. Vic Grimes in a one-time only encounter “XPW After the Fall” is currently available for purchase at BigVisionEntertainment.com and Highspots.com. DEVON STORM TALKS XPW Devon Storm (Crowbar in WCW) discussed very candidly his 2002-2003 XPW run, including - but not limited to - topics such as his thoughts on Rob Black and Lizzy Borden, his XPW gimmicks (“Judas” and later “Salem”), he and Altar Boy Luke’s storyline that was developing in XPW, the role of religion in his real-life, and his relationships with Shane Douglas, Altar Boy Luke, Vic Grimes, and Daffney (Lucy). Perhaps the most insightful part of the interview was Storm’s commentary about his late friend, Jerry Tuite (The Wall/Malice/SNUFF). FULL SUMMARY OF RON KILLINGS INTERVIEW Ron Killings wrestled two matches in XPW, both of which were tag team matches. He was paired with Shalid Jihad and Raphael Mohammed to form The New Panthers, which were based on the real-life Black Panthers group. Killings did not like the gimmick itself, but he made the best of it. At the hotel and on the road, he hung out primarily with The Sandman, Chris Hamrick, Steve Rizzono, and Pogo, and although he only had two matches, Killings holds the claim to fame for cutting one of the funniest promos in the history of XPW. Mercilessly, he ripped into the XPW fans at Liberty or Death in ways that must be seen to be believed, and up until now has yet to be released publicly. As special thanks to you Xtreme supporters of “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job,” here is the fancam version of “Ron Killings: How to Bond and Make Friends with XPW Fans.” http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L1VJ4FVQ (special thanks to Slava Siderman for the footage) Killings’ interview focused on Liberty or Death and Baptized in Blood 2: Night of Champions, the two XPW shows which he was a part of. Killings does not recall who contacted him about becoming a part of XPW, but he was very positive about everybody who he met while a part of it. He never had a problem with bosses Rob Black, Tom Byron or Kevin Kleinrock (“I love Kevin.”). He never had any of his checks bounce, unlike some wrestlers in XPW. Killings said that there were plans to continue bringing him back to XPW and move him away from The Black Panthers so that he became more of a singles wrestler, but for whatever reason he did not return after the two shows. Some people have claimed that Killings was booked for XPW’s first show on the East Coast, Hostile Takeover; Killings says he was never booked. On a side note, an interesting tidbit about Killings is that he is such a bad driver that his name is on an actual list with over 20 rental car agencies throughout the United States which forbids him to use a rental car to get around while on the road, because he has either crashed, totaled, damaged, or lit on fire so many rental cars in the past. Steve Rizzono told a story of how he, Hamrick, and Killings were driving in California one time on the day of an XPW show. Killings was behind the wheel and Rizzono says that he feared for his life. TOMMY DREAMER TALKS XPW FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER WWE employee and “ECW on Sci Fi” superstar TOMMY DREAMER recently became arguably the most well-known wrestling superstar to get involved in the “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” historical retrospective. For the first time EVER, Dreamer talked about his adult film cameo (“Whack Attack 5” - also featuring “Brother” Buh Buh Ray Dudley and Alex “Big Dick Dudley” Rizzo). In a funny note (because no XPW retrospective is complete without some humor, considering that that was what so many people loved about XPW TV), while we were speaking, Tommy was on the Internet simultaneously Googling “Whack Attack 5” with the intent of finding the DVD for himself. He was finding results for “Whack Attack 5: BUTTHOLE BUFFET” and kept asking if that was the correct DVD, to which I kept saying, “I’m not sure; I think it’s just called ‘Whack Attack 5’ without any subtitle.” At that point, he joked “You’re writing the thing, you should know.” Finally, upon my mentioning that the DVD cover has an image of Ashlyn Gere, Tommy and I came to the conclusion that he WAS indeed looking at the correct product. Nonetheless, “butthole buffet” will remain a probable candidate for two words that will never come out of Tommy Dreamer’s mouth one after the other, in succession, ever again. While Tommy’s WWE contract does not allow him to OFFICIALLY endorse the “XPW: Bleeding Was ONLY Half the Job” (whereas porn legend Ron Jeremy WAS able to officially attach his name to it as an endorsement, seeing as how he is not under contract to any one company--see http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QKS44NTL for his endorsement video) because he is under contract to WWE/ECW, Tommy did say that he approves of any effort to promote indy wrestling. Tommy did not comment on the HeatWave 2000 incident. The insight that Tommy contributed to “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” is EXTREMEly appreciated. Tommy Dreamer can be seen each Tuesday evening on the Sci Fi Channel. GARY YAP Former-EPIC Pro Wrestling and Pro Wrestling WAR promoter Gary Yap has agreed to participate in “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job.” Yap will discuss in detail EPIC’s dealings with XPW as well as his friendship and his eventual fallout and legal disputes with The Messiah. COMING IN FUTURE “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” UPDATES: *A fascinating list of exactly which former-XPW wrestlers/employees have been put back in touch with each other as a result of the “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” *Exclusive comment from LANCE STORM about XPW *Steve Rizzono discusses his 1996 dark match against WWE superstar John Bradshaw Layfield (JBL) - the match just so happened to be JBL’s WWE debut, and a start to a magnificent run which saw Bradshaw capture the World Heavyweight Title! GENERAL INFORMATION “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” is an independently-produced, ongoing historical retrospective which details in extraordinary depth the fascinating history of Rob Black’s XPW (Xtreme Pro Wrestling). Officially endorsed by adult film legend Ron Jeremy ( http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KF2BRGPB ) as well as by pro wrestler / promoter / trainer / musician / radio host / magician Verne Langdon (http://www.vernelangdon.com/), the retrospective will go behind-closed-doors and detail everything one could ever want to know about XPW. The Objective The phrase, “to leave no stone unturned,” is very common nowadays--so common, in fact, that it is often exaggerated. When “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” vows to leave no stone unturned, it is not exaggerating. On the contrary, “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” is intent on bringing readers dirt that has been concealed among “the boys” since XPW existed and - until now - has never seen the light of day. This fact is evidenced by the involvement of such world-famous entertainers as Ron Jeremy, Shane Douglas, and Tommy Dreamer in the project. “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” has all of the necessary resources at its disposal and plans to use those resources with the purpose of bringing to the reader the roller-coaster experience that was XPW. The Content With over 30 people contributing exclusive comments, it is impossible to do the retrospective’s content justice, but readers can expect a major focus on the more controversial aspects of XPW’s history, such as Rob Black’s friendships with Paul Heyman and Buh Buh Ray Dudley and where exactly the negotiations with ECW went wrong, what exactly happened at the HeatWave 2000 riot, drug use in the XPW locker room, and the inside scoop on whether or not the wrestlers got sexual favors from the porn stars. Find out what The Messiah doesn’t want his fans to know about his personal life and his former-relationship with Rob Black and Lizzy Borden. Follow Josh Lazie as he tells stories of his experiences traveling all around the world with Sabu, including how they got jailed together in Mexico (as well as how El Hijo del Santo played into the story). Learn the stories that Jasmin St. Claire doesn’t want you to know about her history of harassing XPW wrestlers. Get the inside scoops on the roles that Hayabusa, Bruce Hart, and Atsushi Onita played in XPW. Plus, each person who did an interview (see the list below) was asked for their favorite/funniest John Kronus story. Kronus - a former-ECW Tag Team Champion as one half of “The Eliminators” with Perry Saturn - is known not only as being one of the most notorious ribbers in the wrestling business but also for doing crazy stunts with the purpose of entertaining “the boys.” Many of these humorous drugs, sex, and alcohol-related stories will be published in “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job.” The Wrestlers The best part about “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” is that it will be told from the accounts of the people who were there to live the XPW experience, among them Tommy Dreamer, Shane Douglas, Jerry Lynn, Missy Hyatt, and tens of others. Virtually every major wrestler who you could think of who wrestled for or were directly associated with XPW have done extensive shoot interviews about his or her XPW runs and their comments will be incorporated into the retrospective with the purpose of providing first-hand testimony. Everybody was asked about their opinion of how they got into XPW, their opinion of Rob Black and of Lizzy Borden, and then of course more specific questions about their particular involvement in XPW, as well as their favorite party/road stories from XPW. The list of people who have done interviews so far include: * “The Franchise” SHANE DOUGLAS (made very candid comments on a number of different subjects---for a full summary of what Douglas discussed, go to http://www.declarationofindependents.net/d...ages/xpwsd.html ) *WWE/ECW superstar TOMMY DREAMER *Jerry Lynn *The Blue Meanie *Missy Hyatt *Chris Hamrick *Ron “The Truth” Killings *Devon Storm (a.k.a. Crowbar) *“The Fallen Angel” Christopher Daniels *Shark Boy *Kevin Kleinrock (former-XPW VP) *Josh Lazie (former-XPW Talent Relations Director, manager of Sabu, and ex-bassist for the world-famous band DANZIG---for a full summary of what Lazie discussed, go to http://www.declarationofindependents.net/d...s/xpwlazie.html ) *Kris Kloss *Larry Rivera *CZW promoter/wrestler John Zandig *Gary Yap *Verne Langdon (the trainer of Homeless Jimmy, Messiah, Dynamite D, Webb, Damien Steele, Angel, and others) *Plus over 20 different wrestlers including - but not limited to - Kaos, GQ Money, Altar Boy Luke, Pogo the Clown, “White Trash” Johnny Webb, Dynamite D, Steve Rizzono, and tons of others Many more to be announced! Those who were contacted for interviews about their XPW tenures but declined include: *Sabu (did not want to do any sort of interview regardless of pay---said he would not do the interview even if he were to be paid $5,000) *New Jack (no interest in talking about XPW) *Evan Karagias (wanted $100 for an interview) *The Messiah (wanted $200+ for an interview) ***Lizzy Borden (has moved on from wrestling and doesn’t wish to comment on it) *Jasmin St. Claire (acted like a prima donna [read: Pre-Madonna], saying she was higher than doing wrestling interviews) ***Although Lizzy Borden did not grant an interview, she was very helpful in supplying rare XPW footage and photographs which will be used to supplement the voluminous information that is presented in the “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” retrospective. More and more people who were formerly associated with XPW continue to be contacted for interviews and updates will be given if anyone noteworthy agrees to get involved. In addition, “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job”’s narrative/written content will be *supplemented* by previously unreleased video footage, photographs, and other exclusive multimedia. To read the editions of “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” that have been printed up to this point, please visit: http://www.declarationofindependents.net/d...xpwhistory.html Be sure to start at the bottom of that page, as the article at the top is the most recent chronologically and the last article is the first article chronologically (assuming you want to read them in chronological order, that is…if not, then dive right in!). For any questions about the retrospective, please e-mail [email protected]. Also e-mail that address if you wish to be added to the “XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF the Job” mailing list. Thanks for your interest.