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No, Hall could the most over of the bunch. Watch the nWo return. He gets as big of a reaction for his little spiel as Hogan. The fans would love to rally behind him as a face.

I don't really see how you guys can rip apart the Matrix sequels so hard but be 50/50 on Daredevil.

Keyword there was "buddies" Sault. He doesn't have the Nash or Hunter to party with all the time, and he does have people like Angle, Benoit, Eddie, etc who really are encouraging just to be around and see hw hard they work. He will HAVE to work hard to be out there with guys like that, and when you have a guy like Eddie who has been down the road, things could really shape up for him. Hell, even Big Show is getting made to look good nowadays. Hall can if he wants to.

What will be a heel for the Rock to face? RAW: Kane? (If they push him hard and keep him as the top heel, Rock hasn't really had a full blown fud with him) Smackdown: Vince? (never had the one on one feud Vince has had with everyone else) Face it. Rock needs a heel turn.

Problem with Hall is, he just didn't seem so happy to be back when he got signed the last time. you would expect a guy to be busting his ass and trying to bump well and make people looked good. I guess working with a broomstick austin and then moving on to a Bradshaw feud will do it, but still, be glad you're with the WWE. I'd like to see him try things out again and hopefully get a better program, but he really needs to count his blessings and work hard if he gets re-signed.

That's fucking ridiculous. I remember when they brought it in to be a "wrestling oriented title" and wanted it on Eddie to get the division on the right foot and bring good matches to the table to help make it prestigious. What the fuck.

Raw has been excellent the past 2 months.

Ina a nutshell, this match was almost EXACTLY like thier little piece in the royal Rumble 2003.

Downhome, I should just let you speak for me and chime in with a "yeah" everynow and then. I can't ever find anything you say I disagree with. (wrestling wise)

I like Angle as a tweener. when he's a face, he's bland. As a heel, he's a dork. When he's bragging and kicking ass, it's all good. I don't ever remember really liking Jericho as a face, but seeing him work a match as a face again gave me hope.

Same here. hopefully this will garner a bit of respect around these parts for the guy, considering how well he has done since his return. Now that he is working house shows as well, he may be seen as a wrestler and not a sideshow.

HHH/Batista/Orton beat Goldberg 2 weeks ago.

I have a hard time loving that summerslam 4 way when the Eddie/Benoit/Edge/Angle one from Smackdown before Armageddon '02 blows it away (sure it was in 2002, but I'm discussing the principle). Benoit/Rhyno tag matches from when they were both faces and Rhyno was hot of his big return were far better than that. When Rhyno turned heel, his matches went down along with his push, and, IMO, that one was no exception. noot bad by any means, but not very good considering its short length and bland feel. We'd seen all that, just separate.

Yes, I'll agree on the entertainment value. I'd say Jericho is definitely the RAW MVP. but WRESTLER? I mean as far as the matches go (I can't count the week in and week out house shows I don't see), Michaels is just really on.

I fail to see why Jericho is completely dominant on the Raw wrestling side whereas HBK got ONE vote. C'mon, he has had the most consistent string of good-great matches we've seen from people in a while (sans Benoit or Guerrero). Then you have his performance at Survivor Series. Jericho has been good, but better than HBK? I beg to differ. It seems as if most of you forgot he was even around except for WM19's Shawn Michaels vs. CHRIS JERICHO~! Jericho's matches have really gone downhill for me because I can't get over that pathetic crab he uses. it KILLS the match in my eyes. would you enjoy someone working the back all night and finishing things up with a botched vertical suplex?

Cool thing about the Angle/Brock SS encounter is, in viewing the DVD, the botched F5 reversal is edited out. the flow of the match is now great when watching it that way, and it is truly a good match. The actual match really turned me off after that happened, but when I watch the DVD, it's all good.

I don't know whether to laugh at the Dorito stuck in the crack of her thighs, or the fqact that Dorito's magically went back to the old bag style.

I'm guessing both guys napping while Storm drove was the violation? Probably not, but I can't ever catch confidential because of work or bar hopping around that time. Ah well, I'll check out the Velocidential thread.

I thought he's looked this way (maybe not as bad, but close) since Summerslam.

His hair looks fine when it is dry , but anyone who has the slightest hair thinning going on will make it obvious when they soak it wet in water. He looked fat as hell out there and I was laughing my ass off. The guy needs to just rest up for a while and trim down, but most of all he needs to GROW THE DAMN BEARD BACK!

I guess you enjoy your boy getting punked out like a bitch week in and week out. How many slaps will he take before he retaliates with something not resembling a clean loss? Please. Discuss your Orton love on a women's fanboard. This is for grown folk's discussion. I'm pretty high on Orton myself, but you, sir, are not breaking any ground shilling for a wrestler like mad who could give two shits about you. You're pathetic, so stop now. Honestly, the tag team division needs sprucing up NOW. Evolution should not break up yet, because no one will care. How long have the 4 of them been together? Not long enough. These things take time. Have Bookdust reunite with Booker in a sort of Eddy role (MVP of Raw defending tag and IC gold week in and week out) and have Batista/Orton whipping ass in tag too. Then they can build up more established characters and really break free when the time is right.

I personally want to see Kane/goldberg. I'm not to sure on how the match would go, but who knows? Steiner and GB pulled off a great power match a few yyears ago, and I don't see why this couldn't be the same. This also entails HHH losing AGAIN, as well as Kane winning and ending his feud with Shane. I sure as hell hope that is the world title match booked in December.

I'd say the fact that Brock wnet up 5-2 to begin with was big. He made Angle tap QUICKLY to his own finisher, F5ed him for a clean win, DDT'd him for a clean win, etc. angle could have easily done the same thing, and the fact that Cole was too busy pulling a JR (everything Face's do is awesome, if a heel does it he i a bastard) took away from Tazz pointing out that it was genius for Brock to take an early advantage like that. He never cheated to prevent angle from getting a win, he just kicked the shit out of him so he ran out of time. To me, harping on the chairshot is wrong. In WWE style main event (PPV caliber) there are almost always chairshots at somepoint in the match. If you took away wins from people as not being clean because they used a chair at some point in the match, there would be a lot less "clean" wins by your standards. He GAVE Angle a fall as a sacrifice to him getting a leg up on the match. That is a thinking man's victory. If Angle would have been able to get ahead, he could have done the same to ensure Brock didn't make a big comeback. Lesnar didn't allow it.

I owned the BGB and I loved it. Back in middle school I wrestled in a fed with a lot of older guys, and some from indy feds down here. I brought it in to be used and after wrestling with those guys for a couple of years, they let me win it in the final blowoff to the fed. I kept it for a long time and was proud of it, but money got tight after highschool and I sold the sonofabitch to pay off a big bank overdraft.

How would it be the "Heel Look"? It's a variant of the ankle lock, a submission hold. I think the world look is just a typo.