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Uh, any team who has a logic chain to Florida has a logic chain to Oklahoma, DUCY?

Only thing I can think of is that if Texas scores you can still tie by blocking the PAT. If they had just kicked the PAT they'd be down 24-22 now and a FG would win it. It was an idiotic move. This is completely false and a big part of why Tressel chose to go for 2. It's not just you though, I saw CFN crucifying him for it too. The thing is that if there are two TDs, someone is going to go for two every time. Either OSU goes for two on the first score or Texas goes for two on the second one. So basically, if Tressel thinks (the chances that OSU scores) + (the chance that Texas will miss an XP) > (the chances that OSU will stop Texas on a 2-pt. conversion), then they should go for it. I'm guessing it was close enough that it hardly affected the game either way. Probably only a 1 or 2% difference either way. Really fun game anyway, best of the bowl season thus far. Had OSU won, I would have been first in my confidence pool for $11K instead of eliminated, but what can you do. The Buckeyes played about as well as you could expect them to.

No, they'd be 3-1 overall against the Top Ten. (Using computer rankings at the end of the season, not poll rankings at time of game.) I'm saying if you take out the two games they played against teams that are better than anyone Utah played which they split (the win over Florida and the loss to Texas) and throw those out, then their remaining record against the Top 10 is 2-0 (wins over TCU and TTU) and their remaining resume is better than Utah's resume in it's entirety.

Glad to see I rolled here. (Probably leading the whole contest actually with 22 picks correct.) Just wish I would have stuck with these picks in my money pool. Both of the picks I changed (LT -> NIU, Miss -> TT) ended up costing me. It's a confidence pool and I'm still alive, but it's going to take a lot of luck at this point. Hey, we still do rankings after the bowls, right? I'd like to see if I can climb to #3 (or gasp #2) with my strong bowl performance.

The way I see it, if Oklahoma wins next Thursday, then they deserve to be #1. They would have split with Texas and Florida who are both better than anyone that Utah's played, and if you take those two teams off the schedule, the Sooners would still have a better overall resume than the Utes. (2-0 vs. Top 10, 6-0 vs. Top 30 against 2-0 vs. Top 10, 4-0 vs. Top 30.) Also, the common opponent should count for something as OU blew out the same TCU team that Utah was lucky to get by. On the other hand, if Florida wins the BCS national championship game, Utah deserves to be #1 and get half of the national title. Utah and Florida both have the same number of wins against the Top 10 and the Top 30, and Utah has a slightly better win against Alabama (won by 3 more points despite playing in a virtual road game). Their resumes would be almost exactly the same except for the fact that Florida lost to Ole Miss at home. The Rebs aren't bad or anything, but they're not an elite level team, and winning all your games should count for way more than margin of victory against jobbers when determining the national champion. Also, any AP voters that put Utah behind USC need to be slapped upside the head with a big hairy cock. (Unless they're into that. Then just, uh, smother them with a smelly vagina or something.)

Kind of a mildly interesting concept for an online game that I stumbled across. There's not a ton to do after allocating points and stuff, but they simulate games every two days and it's just starting out so there should be new features added over time. It's super easy to sign up anyway, they don't even verify your email; so it's probably worth the minute or two it takes to check out. If you look into the thread a little bit, people have referral links that you can use to sign up.

Jesus Christ. I'd heard that injury mentioned and I had to see it for myself, and it's even more horrifying than I imagined. Just absolutely disgusting to see someone's leg do that. On the "too many bowls" thing, I agree wholeheartedly. They need to at least cut it down to the point where less than half of the teams make bowls. These are the bowls this year they could easily eliminate: New Mexico Bowl: 7-5 Fresno State vs. 6-6 Colorado State St. Petersburg Bowl: 6-6 Memphis vs. 7-5 South Florida Independence Bowl: 6-6 Northern Illinois vs. 7-5 Louisiana Tech Then, on top of that, they could do some consolidating, eliminating the following teams from the pool: 6-6 Southern Miss (I don't care that they beat Troy, they didn't belong in a bowl) 6-6 Florida Atlantic 6-6 NC State (no, they're not really that bad this year, but it should be tough luck for you when you finish 10th in your conference, especially when said conference hasn't won a BCS game in a decade) 6-6 Kentucky (no team that goes 2-6 in conference deserves a bowl game) That would leave Rutgers/East Carolina in the Liberty Bowl and Central Michigan/Troy in the New Orleans Bowl. The Motor City Bowl and the Papajohns bowl will be eliminated. I know the Motor City Bowl has a little more tradition than the New Orleans Bowl, but I like the idea of a southern bowl for the Sun Belt champ to go to. No one on earth wants to go to a bowl game in Detroit.

They were ranked 5th in the final coaches' poll. The seeding for the playoffs is done completely separately by a selection committee at the end of the season, much like the ones used for the NCAA basketball tournament.

Fuck Richmond. Grizzlies are gonna take it down. Oh, and they're the 4 seed BTW, they were just #5 in the final poll. I used to have UM season tickets from 1994-2003 before I went away to college. I don't follow Grizzly football all that close anymore, but I live about a mile and a half away from the campus, and I know a couple players on the team fairly well from poker. So I'll definitely be getting into the spirit this Friday and cheering big-time for the Griz. Probably will make a large degenerate wager too. (Montana's somehow a 1-point dog right now FWIW.)

I might change the corporate sponsor to an actual sportsbook, but rest assured, it will remain the Degenerate Bowl if I have anything to say about it.

Oh, the degenerate bowl is right up my alley. No way I'm losing this one.

As someone who rooted against the Sooners for years simply because of Damaramu, I've got to say he's 100% right here. The argument being put forth by the mainstream media about Texas deserving the shot over OU is one of the single dumbest arguments I've ever heard in my life. And they're still going on about it days later. Listening to these blathering idiots trying to influence the national title picture is like toddlers telling NASA how to build rockets. The fact that if OU played in the SEC, they could have lost the conference because they won by too many points is mind-boggling.

I spent 5 minutes trying to figure out with this acronym stands for and I have no idea. I checked Google and got no luck there either.

Some of the computer formulas actually release projections based on hypotheticals, and the ones that don't are relatively easy to approximate. Basically, if Oklahoma and Texas both win this week, Oklahoma is likely going to be ahead of Texas in either 4 or 5 of the computer rankings, and at the very, very least will be ahead in 3. That means the only way that Texas could keep their spot, even if the computer rankings treat them better than expected is to pass Oklahoma in the polls. Considering their respective opponents, there's almost no way that could happen. Basically, Oklahoma would have to win a one-possession game on a terrible call or something for it to even come into play. In fact, even if Texas Tech loses to Baylor and Texas wins the division outright, it's still probably better than 50/50 that Oklahoma would go to the national championship.

No, they can't. 11-1 Texas and 11-1 USC would both go over a 12-1 Texas Tech team that won the Big XII title. The pollsters just do not allow teams that were blown out in November to play for national titles under any circumstance. In the old days, they could get overruled by the computers, but the system's been painstakingly re-designed specifically to prevent that from ever happening again. I see you edited. Uh, Oklahoma lost 35-7 IN THEIR LAST GAME in 2003 and went. Nebraska lost their LAST GAME 62-36 or some nonsense and went in 2001. And the computers account for even more of the BCS now. No, they account for less. It was originally over half if you count the SOS+W/L as a rudimentary computer ranking (which it was). Then, they dropped those and made it 50/50 polls + computer rankings. Then, that still wasn't good enough to prevent the computers from holding sway so they made it 2/3 polls and 1/3 computer rankings which is the current system. So if all the computers have Texas Tech over USC and 68% of the voters pick USC while 32% pick Texas Tech, then USC's the team that goes to the national title game. It's literally impossible for Texas Tech to get in now. Not only would USC and Texas go over them, in a pinch I think Penn State and Utah would as well (who are both all done playing).

No, they can't. 11-1 Texas and 11-1 USC would both go over a 12-1 Texas Tech team that won the Big XII title. The pollsters just do not allow teams that were blown out in November to play for national titles under any circumstance. In the old days, they could get overruled by the computers, but the system's been painstakingly re-designed specifically to prevent that from ever happening again.

Well, the 6 games before they played the Citadel, they did just beat 6 SEC teams by at least 28 points each. Oklahoma's played 3 great games in a row, but before that they gave up 35 points to Kansas and 31 to Kansas State. Obviously, I'm nit-picking to criticize Oklahoma though. The Sooners and Gators look to be head and shoulders above anyone else in the country right now and if they played on a neutral field tomorrow, I'd say a fair line would be something like Florida -1.

Here's my new college football rankings with everything sorted out objectively. (Previous week's ranking in parenthesis) 1. Florida 10-1 (2) 2. Oklahoma 10-1 (6) 3. Alabama 11-0 (3) 4. Texas 10-1 (4) 5. USC 9-1 (5) 6. Penn State 11-1 (7) 7. Texas Tech 10-1 (1) 8. Utah 12-0 (10) 9. Boise State 11-0 (8) 10. Ohio State 10-2 (9) 11. Oklahoma State 9-2 (11) 12. Missouri 9-2 (12) 13. TCU 10-2 (13) 14. Georgia 9-2 (14) 15. Oregon State 8-3 (15) 16. Ball State 11-0 (17) 17. Iowa 8-4 (22) 18. Oregon 8-3 (19) 19. California 7-4 (23) 20. Florida State 8-3 (NR) 21. Georgia Tech 8-3 (NR) 22. Michigan State 9-3 (16) 23. Boston College 8-3 (NR) 24. Cincinnati 9-2 (NR) 25. BYU 10-2 (18)

TT beat Texas on a last second play and got violated on national TV by OU. Texas beat OU by 10 and lost on a last second play to TT or they'd still be undefeated. OU destroyed TT at home, but lost by 10 against Texas. The way I see it, if you eliminate TT from the discussion at this point (which you should since they lost by 44), then I look at the head to head as being more significant than a team getting beat on a last second play. OU has the better schedule minus the Texas game, but they lost to Texas and shouldn't leapfrog them and Florida in the BCS because they beat the shit out of a team that probably falls all the way out of the top 10 tomorrow. I just don't like the idea that Alabama/Florida will all but lock up a slot in the title game and assuming they both win out Oklahoma will end up ahead of Texas despite losing to them. This is possibly the dumbest argument I've ever heard. So if Oklahoma had beaten Texas Tech by 20, they'd have a fair case to be in the national championship, but since they beat them by 44, their win doesn't count for as much any more and now Texas gets the spot? Give me a fucking break. The only legitimate argument for Texas is that they lost on the road and OU lost at a neutral site, but after the shellacking the Sooners put on Texas Tech tonight, they definitely deserve to go if they win out. Beat Oklahoma State, beat Missouri, you're in the national championship. Period. End of story. Lose either of those games and Texas is in.

Yeah, can't believe I forgot to submit my picks today. I was so worried about trying to get things done to make sure I didn't miss the kickoff that I completely spaced out that it was the deadline to submit my picks. I don't suppose I can just get default credit for picking Georgia Tech since I'm Georgia Tech and all in the game, can I? I think that would be a good rule in the future. If you miss your team's Thursday night game, it counts like you picked them. Anyway, here are picks for Saturday: SATURDAY Indiana at Purdue Clemson at Virginia Arkansas at Mississippi State Michigan State at Penn State Boston College at Wake Forest Stanford at California Illinois at Northwestern BYU at Utah Oregon State at Arizona Iowa at Minnesota Pittsburgh at Cincinnati Florida State at Maryland Texas Tech at Oklahoma Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the Texas Tech/Oklahoma game? 72 Tiebreak #2: How many rushing yards will Oregon State's Jacquizz Rodgers have against Arizona? 106

Pretty sure Virginia should be 8-4, not 8-3. Not sure if their conference record is right. As for me, I'm glad to still be alive for the Bored Bowl after the bad picks I submitted this week. Thought I would have dropped a couple spots. I guess I'm just going to have to go crazy next week and pick everything right.

THURSDAY Virginia Tech at Miami FRIDAY Cincinnati at Louisville SATURDAY Notre Dame vs. Navy (in Baltimore) Northwestern at Michigan South Carolina at Florida Minnesota at Wisconsin North Carolina at Maryland California at Oregon State BYU at Air Force Texas A&M at Baylor Arizona at Oregon Boston College at Florida State Vanderbilt at Kentucky Tulsa at Houston Tiebreak #1: How many total points will be scored in the South Carolina/Florida game? 58 Tiebreak #2: How many passing yards will Tulsa's David Johnson have against Houston? 400

LOL lookingatonegameaments. It might interest you to remember that USC was one play away from losing to Cal at home in 2004. If Aaron Rodgers could have converted one of four plays from the 9-yard line, USC's out of the chase and if Cal gets USC in Berkeley, it's probably more than enough to swing the game the Golden Bears' direction. That's the same Cal team that lost to Texas Tech by 14 in the Holiday Bowl BTW. You could argue that Cal played bad in their bowl due to the disappointment of missing a BCS game and I'd probably agree with you, but that just makes looking at Auburn's performance against VT under a microscope after they got screwed out of a national title shot all the more silly. Also, that same season that USC should have lost to Cal, Utah's closest win was a 14-point win over Air Force and they picked up wins over teams from both the Pac-Ten and Big XII in non-conference. It's silly to minimize the championship debate from that year.

The ACC tiebreakers fascinated me a lot more before the Jackets got destroyed by UNC last week and dropped their chances of winning to roughly 1%. In all seriousness though, it looks like UNC has the inside track. They've still got NC State and Duke on the schedule, they're only reasonably tough game is at Maryland who's easily the worst of the ACC contenders. And I agree on this week's slate being super dull. We've got USCe trying to keep USCw alive for the national title, but other than that, there's nothing of national significance.

Sorry Broward, you're wrong. Florida doesn't need any help at all. There's no way the voters will let two Big XII teams play for the title, so if Florida wins out, there's at least a 99% chance they play for the title. The only way they don't is if they win every game by single digits the rest of the way, Bama loses before the SEC title game, and USC gets a groundswell of support to pass the Gators after blowing out the rest of their opponents.