J. Hungerford Smith

Well that also contradicts itself since Paul Bearer and the Undertaker confirmed that the awful fire DID happen...unless...ah, I dunno. I got nothing.

Well, if you're a WWE writer, you think people like us aren't going to ever remember that and say "Hey, now that's weird." Kind of like how Kane was supposedly scarred for life while he was wearing a mask and a suit that covered his whole body, and now he wrestles topless sporting a perfectly unburned complexion.

This relates to a personal opinion - people should only rate matches, especially with stars, if they can explain at the drop of a hat why they gave the rating, and what their measuring stick is to rate matches in general, which has to go beyond "it entertained me", because that's a crap justification. It means to me that every match is either ***** or a DUD with no middle ground, because either you're entertained or you're not. There's too much useless star-throwing, and some people should just rate the particular crowd at hand because it seems that it's the biggest or only criterion. I agree. That part was just directed towards those earlier in the thread who were just like "Dave sucks at reviewing" or whatever. I remember reading it and Dave did justify why he thought the match was good, I mean I guess from a wrestling standpoint that didn't matter. But it wasn't an awful match. I think people got better than what they expected. And yeah, people do overrate the crowd. Obviously it's an important part in the match, because if the crowd's not being entertained then chances are the person watching on TV isn't going to be entertained either. But I think it makes it much more interesting when there's a rush of excitement going on with the people in the audience, but that's just me. Which reminds me of something else I want to bitch about: the Bashams are awful and no one cares about them. I'd at least rather get the old X-Pac/RTC heat than NO heat at all. There's no need for them to have the tag belts.

I'm not going to quote everything I want to respond to, because it would be a lot of quoting. I'm going to generalize it real nicely though: Ratings are opinions. Just because Meltzer or Keith or whoever said that it's so many stars doesn't mean jack shit. Who cares what they think? You guys are acting like the guy's an idiot just because he liked the match. Well you know what? I liked that match. I don't care if you think I'm an idiot, I agree with Dave. It was better than most of the other garbage on the card. It was entertaining. I wasn't expecting any wrestling. The match did what it was supposed to. It told an excellent story, and Vince got an insane amount of heel heat. If you came into this match expecting some sort of **** classic, then you're a bigger idiot than you claim Dave to be. Because that's not going to happen at all. I sincerely doubt any of you thought that it would be any good, so why complain about it? It was your typical Vince match. It was no better or worse than any of his encounters with Flair, Hogan, HHH or Austin. It was funny too, because I had about fallen asleep during Big Show and Eddie, but when this came on, my eyes were glued to the TV. So yes, in my opinion, Vince vs. Steph was a better match than a lot of the stuff on the card. Of course, Rey/Tajiri was my MOTN. But the real point I'm trying to make is, there's no reason to harass someone just because he has a different opinion of a match. People are going to like it for their reasons, and people will dislike it for their reasons. It's not like it's an official rating or anything. I'm sure Dave doesn't care about your rating, so why should you care about his?

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Too bad Rob Conway sucks and doesn't have any potential like Rock did. Also he looks stupid. He won't last.

I have no idea who he is, but he's already annoying me.

This was some ad on my Hotmail inbox page...

Yeah, I figured that as well. I'm sure most of the people who are on those ads aren't single.

They also got TV time and marketable gimmicks. And are over 6 feet and 200 pounds.

Don't say that, you might give Tommy Dreamer hope. Tommy looks like a sensible guy, I'm sure he's understood by now that he's going nowhere in this company.

You're acting as if Big Show was everyone's job-bitch or something. Big Show was already an established star with title reigns in WCW and WWE. Plus the fact that he has undeniable size. It wasn't like they pulled him off of the opening Heat match and handed him the belt. And yes, I agree that it WAS dumb booking.

And yet you have *Kane* on your list. Because Kane is being used. When was the last time Matt Hardy had a legitimate pay-per-view match? Backlash? I never said Kane was any better than Matt Hardy, that's ludicrous. But Kane is given failed push after failed push yet the fans still seem to care. Without Jeff, Matt is doomed to matches with no heat, saved only by a comedy gimmick that appeases the smarks (something that apparently is very tough to accomplish). The idea of this post was to decide the best 10 workers to build your company around. If you're a clueless mark, are you going to be buying a Kane t-shirt or a Matt Hardy t-shirt? Would you like to see a 3-legged debacle between Matt Hardy and Zach Gowen or a bumpfest between Kane and Shane McMahon? No, I'm not asking for your biased smark opinion. If you're that fat hoosier in the Brock Lesnar t-shirt, what would YOU want to see?

Kurt Angle The Rock John Cena Brock Lesnar Triple H Chris Jericho Rob Van Dam Rey Mysterio Kane Eddie Guerrero Smackdown: 5 RAW: 5 Faces: 5 Heels: 5 The reason I've picked these 10 is that they've proved that they can get over and that people are interested in watching them. If you have a problem with me picking Triple H, I don't care. He's no worse than anyone I left out, besides Benoit. I'm not picking Benoit because no one gives a shit about him. I'm sorry I'm not a Matt Hardy fanboy but he's really nothing special other than having a cool gimmick.

Hyping Gowen's return and jobbing him to Shannon Moore for the 2nd time... I don't get it. I don't want Gowen to go over or anything, but it really doesn't make sense.

The report on Observer says that Lesnar actually pinned Cena in 4 minutes.

Wendell ruled.

Marc is about to come on Game Show Network!

All 3 of them suck. If I had to pick one, it would be Dupree. But that's only because he's 19 and banging Molly Holly. What a stud.

... Yeah, but who cares? The opening lyrics are so captivating that I imagine they just blew their creative loads then and there. Indeed. ::cranks it up and turns on the lights::

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