Tawren

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Teddy = douche Feinstein = douche Teddy in ROH, working for Feinstein = true love

Remember when we said that about RVD, Booker T, Kane, Steiner, Nash, Goldberg, so forth? Yeah. SPOILER: HHH wins.

2001 or 2000...probably 2000, better overall card.

Looks like another weak week.

Agreed. Why put a commercial for Raw during Raw? It makes NO SENSE.

4. Brock/Eddy- ***1/2 (WAY overrated, people were saying ****3/4, this is a lot like Eddy/Benoit from Vengeance 03, started off awesome but the ref nonsense really hurt it) Angle/Cena/Show- ** Rey Jr./Chavito- **1/2 TWGTTP/APA- 1/2* Holly/Rhyno- 1/4* Scotty/Rikishi vs. Bashams- DUD Noble/Nidia- DUD

And everytime the majority of the board says that, the show ends up good. Strange, aside from 2/11 (which got good reviews, I didn't watch), I haven't seen a good TNA in months. What defines a good TNA show now? What I meant was whenever a show seems to be a "fuck this, I'll watch the [insert random NBA team]" show, it ends up being better than expected. Not great, but good. And usually when it looks good it will suck. Damn TNA logic. A good TNA show...something ***+. I haven't seen anything ***+ from TNA since...hmmm...September? It's sad, with the awesome roster they have. ... NHL > NBA

And everytime the majority of the board says that, the show ends up good. Strange, aside from 2/11 (which got good reviews, I didn't watch), I haven't seen a good TNA in months.

Looks like another must skip week.

HHH is a smark at heart. "This microphone is like Goldberg...it can't work"

Actually, when the rumor for XX was Benoit/Angle, people bitched. Guerrero/Angle hasn't been done before.

I'll be vice president...no, JUNIOR Vice President!

You underrated it by a star and a fourth, at least. Bullshit. The match sucked. 3/4* at most.

From the ROH boards

Those suck.

JD2002 and Vengeance2002 are everywhere in Canada.

Duuuuuuuude...this cake is soooo goooood.

No, the point was that he isn't making facial expressions while lying on the mat, it's that he's not lying on the mat. There is only one portion where he lies on the mat, and it lasts 7 seconds. That's the point. I'm sorry if you expect guys to just jump up after taking finishers, but that's not the way smart matches work. OK, I just went back and re-watched the match. I get the story. The work is smart. No, they don't lie around as much as it seemed like the first time I watched it (which was my point, when I watched it it felt like they were just lying around a lot). But I still can't call it anything great. I understand that they don't need to get right up right away, but get this: I don't like the match. It feels like they are taking a while in between moves and I hate the ending. Again: I get the story. I don't like the match.

That's a pretty bad cop-out. Blowing him off with the dismisive "whatever" after he went back and took notes on the match to prove you wrong is pretty lame. He hasn't been too "nice" about arguing this, but if someone makes a good argument, it's usually best to listen instead of ignoring them. How are you supposed to get anything out of a discussion if you won't listen to others's opinions, especially when they've made a good point? Sure, he's made a good point that Ohtani has facial expressions while he lies on the mat, but when I watched the match, I didn't like it and it seemed to me like they were lying around a lot. I didn't like the match. I get the story, I get everything he is saying, I just don't like it. Yeah, it's a cop-out, but I don't like the match.

Inspector Impact is the name.

I know for sure New Blood Rising and Fall Brawl were.

Bah, fine, whatever, you win. I didn't like the match. There ya go, there is my reason. I felt they were lying around too much because that is what it seemed like while I was watching it...whatever.

Off the top of my head: -Both Wild Pegasus & Shinjiro Otani vs. Great Sasuke & Black Tiger 2 from the Super JR tag league 94 -Ohtani/Ultimo Dragon from the J*Crown 1996 -Benoit/Samurai from BOTSJ 1993 -Benoit vs Guerrero from BOTSJ 1995 As for lying around, sure maybe they are grimacing or holding their arms, but they are on their backs on the mat, mostly towards the end with Ohtani hitting his fishermans buster and dragon suplex, as they lie there for a while post-move before getting up and hitting the next move. Again, they're selling, but they are also just lying around and it is hard for ME to find a match ****+ and one of the best matches of the decade when lots of the time is spent lying around.

God forbid they actually sell the moves they are doing to each other. And if you don't get the finish, than you obviously don't understand the story. Yes, I do understand the story. Liger is out to prove he can hang with the up and comer trying to take his spot as top dog, Ohtani is out to prove he can beat the top dog, so Ohtani pulls out all the stops but just can't put Liger away, which is evident in Ohtani's frustration after Liger keeps kicking out. I GET IT, THAT ISN'T MY PROBLEM. I just don't like it as much as I have seen it pimped. Explain to me how me not liking Liger one punch(palm)ing Ohtani to finish the match out of nowhere means I don't get the story. Sheesh. Dude, don't you get it, it's a fluke knockout. Ohtani is the firey underdog, he gets to firey, and stupidly runs into his own demise. It's a fitting ending to cap off the match's theme. I understand that, but my main point is that it comes out of nowhere (which a fluke has to, but still), they spend way too much time lying around (selling a move is fine, but they spent so much time just lying there), and how weak the finish is. Seriously, Liger could use his brainbuster or Ligerbomb or even a lariat and it would work more than just a one punch(palm) to win. I like the match, I just really don't get how people call it so great and one of the best matches out there.