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Also reading the results to find strange appearences by those you never saw on TV. Double Trouble as a WWF tag team, Mongalian Mauler in WCW, Memphis running angles that were tied into WWF, that the WWF never mentioned (Pg 13 earned a tag title shot, Somebody won a spot in the Royal Rumble that WWF later veto'd, the whole McMahon/Lawler feud.Mongolian Mauler had a few matches on Worldwide in '94 when they realized that the previous Disney tapings were a disaster so the show had to exist on a different plane of existence from most of what was going on in WCW.
PG-13 did get a tag title shot against the Smoking Gunns on Raw.
Doug Gilbert got to be in the Royal Rumble that he won a slot in. They may have run it another year where it didn't come off.
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-Frenchie Martin apparently has a Goldberg-like streak going. It appears that Frenchie (Andre the Giant's close friend) has been on the last couple of weeks and is always winning. Even Poffo is doing jobs to him (twice) and Poffo does two jobs on the show. Weird.Frenchie Bernard was Andre's friend/caretaker, not Frenchie Martin.
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In fairness, maybe the tape was messed up during Gagne-McGraw.
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I always wish Heenan had never left the WWF. Heenan doing Raw during the Attitude Era would have made that era even better. It's a shame Monsoon got sick, because they could have gone on forever and never gotten old. Monsoon & Heenan were so far ahead of their time. Can you imagine them as they are in 1992 in WWF 1998?There was an episode of Raw on recently where Monsoon threatened to throw Steve Austin's "ass out of the building". It was both incredibly awesome and incredibly odd to hear Monsoon curse on TV.
Who the hell is J.W. Storm?
A little investigative journalism led to my finding out that he is former DDP bodyguard MAXX MUSCLE~! and marking out a little. One of his other ring names was Big Juice.
Jeff Warner as Maxx Muscle is a Wikipedia-created myth.
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Crockett bought the UWF primarily for its syndicated network (Jim Ross had built up a pretty solid roster of affiliates all over the US)...which Watts was paying out the ass for. Crockett paid Watts for the right to pay for his TV slots when he could've just waited for Watts to go out of business and taken them over then.
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"While CWF might be one of the lesser known territories"
I love the stuff that they throw in to piss people off.
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For what it's worth (as a factoid), Freddie Blassie wrestled with one kidney later in his career.
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The short version of the history of Dr. Black:
He runs the NFL drug testing program and his presence was a big reason why Meltzer et al thought the WWE policy was legit (high steroid failure threshold aside). After the Benoit murders and his talk show appearances where said testosterone was not a steroid, he was viewed as a stooge who looks out for the best interests of whoever's paying him.
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Has HHH actually mentioned "Dr. Black?" Unless it's from this week, I don't recall the name ever coming up.HHH's reference to Dr. Black was taken off Smackdown in editing before it ever hit the air.
There's something to be said about a promo by the son-in-law being considered over the line enough that it was edited.
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London reportedly hated Japan, which led to him signing with WWE, IIRC, because he couldn't supplement his income as well as his peers could if wouldn't do Japanese tours.
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I seem to remember the "smoking gun" photo being that their bookshelf had recent Coliseum Videos.
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Starting with stuff you can get via completely official and legal means (everything here is also available from Netflix, with some of the Wrestling Gold family of stuff available via "Watch Instantly" streaming):
Pick up some Memphis. The TV formatting and wrestling style (lots of great brawls and epic main events) will be easy to get into if you're used to this decade's WWE stuff. Maybe start by picking up the Wrestling Gold DVD set at retail to get started as it's cheap and has a good amount of quality Memphis footage, with alternate commentary by Jim Cornette & Dave Meltzer to give all sorts of fun historical info. Some is edited but it's a good start. I was hooked by seeing some of the same matches on old VHS tapes from the same company. The 2nd box from the same company has 2 Smokey Mountain Wrestling DVDs and some OVW, which is newer ('90s and '00s respectively) wrestling booked by Jim Cornette to have a similar feel to Memphis and Mid-South (and these also have Cornette/Meltzer alternate commentary tracks).
Speaking of Mid-South, they have 2 official retail releases available that have some good stuff:
http://www.dvdpricesearch.com/cgi-bin/dvdc...p;tmpCart=75547
http://www.dvdpricesearch.com/cgi-bin/dvdc...p;tmpCart=82806
The Watts family sells a lot of Mid-South footage at http://www.universalwrestling.com but they have no compilations besides the retail ones, just a lot of full TV episodes and house show footage, so it's not the best place to start.
Oh, and back to Memphis for a second. There's the Andy Kaufman "I'm From Hollywood" documentary that covers the Lawler feud. Though the timeline is messed up at times and they skip a lot, it's a blast to watch. Netflix has the out of print version with "My Breakfast With Blassie" on the B side of the DVD.
There's also a solid "Best of the Von Erichs" DVD that's out of print. (All of the commentary has been removed, though)
Of course, there are also the various WWE releases of older footage. The Flair sets, Pillman set, Bloodbath set, '80s stars set, and Andre the Giant re-release are a good start.
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Now, for the less official means of procuring footage.
Memphis is an odd duck. The masters are spread out all over the place and the actual owners don't seem to care about others doing anything with it. There's a lot available from your regular burnt DVD traders/sellers. If you want something a little more structured:
Highspots has some releases they've put together that are endorsed by Cory Maclin of the current Memphis wrestling. They're pressed dual layer DVDs (not burnt) and the video quality varies, but there is some good stuff on them. So far, they've released:
Classic Memphis Wrestling - 70s Arena Footage
Classic Memphis Wrestling - Jerry Lawler vs Andy Kaufman
Classic Memphis Wrestling - Strangest Matches and Wildest Brawls
For the DVDVR '80s polls, Goodhelmet has put together a big set for the voting process. Full of great stuff and while it's recorded in LP mode to minimize the the number of discs, most of the stuff holds up ok. Enough people are participating that you know you're not being ripped off or anything.
Rick at 70s-TV.com has a bunch of stuff, largely consisting of compilations that he's put together. The matches are clipped at times but even when they are, his discs and sets are great overviews. He's sold stuff on eBay for years and is very reliable.
Jerry Lawler's website sells older versions of Rick's comps as well as DVD conversions of some of his old home videos.
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WWE edited the entire angle out of International versions of Smackdown. UPN could have refused to air the segment, yes, but WWE could have easily edited the angle out themselves. They had the presence of mind to edit it out of the International versions of Smackdown, and the only reason they didn't do the same for the US version is they didn't think it would cause that much of a fuss.It was apparently that they thought Americans didn't care about anything that happened internationally, which was worse.
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Nippon TV owns most of the pre-split AJPW footage.
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It was interesting in that prematch promo to hear Race say how he slammed Andre and thus slamming Bundy wouldn't be as big of a challenge.As far as title wins go, how many of Race's wins are even on tape? He beat Brisco in 1973 but I don't know if the match exists on tape, the various wins in those brief title exchanges with Baba and Dusty might not exist (though I think Dusty's win over Race popped up on 24/7).
He beat Dory Funk Jr. in '73, not Brisco.
I seem to remember that the end of the win over Dory Funk Jr. is on PWI Lords of the Ring, the first wrestling title released on home video in the US.
Much of the win over Terry Funk from '77 is available on one of the Wrestling Gold DVDs.
As mentioned earlier, both wins over Baba are available.
Not sure about the win over Rhodes.
The win over Rich doesn't exist.
I think the end of the win over Flair in St. Louis is available.
The win over Flair in New Zealand doesn't exist.
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I suppose there's no reason they can't do both ala movie channels. The idea is to have a vehicle for their first run TV if and when the time comes they need to do so (I think that will be a disastrous day, but we'll see). I suspect they would cycle the weeks programming the same way cable channels now cycle programming in a loop, but your Raw and SmackDown would air first run on a Monday and Thursday/Friday and show up OD later.That works.
I'd be in favor of it being a regular channel if just because it could lead to them releasing a ridiculous amount of footage to have a regular schedule more like non-movie channels.
I'm curious if they could get enough ad $ to make it worthwhile, though.
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Ventura messed up the finish by holding up 3 fingers the way refs do with 2 fingers after a 2 count, plus I seem to remember that he didn't immediately signal to the timekeeper to ring the bell.
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The best part about the leadup to Goldust's debut was that initially, after hearing the name, people thought it would be some sort of old Western movie style cowboy. Then there were short bumpers with a Goldust logo on the screen with Finkel announcing "From Hollywood, California, weighing 260 pounds, Goldust!" And then the first vignette with Dustin aired, and fans collectively shared a "WTF?!?!?" reaction.
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The Dr. Jho surgery is fine if you're not taking bumps again, which is why it was fine for Lombardi (retired) and Hall (inactive, not a heavy bumper when he's wrestling again). Angle has had to have the surgery re-done a few times.
Unfortunately, it looks like Dr. Maroon is doing something that is similar to the Dr. Jho surgery: http://www.josephmaroon.com/minvas.htm
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This was the last IYH that they charged $14.95 for.
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^^^Didn't notice, but I'm sure you have a theory on it, so just tell us all.Not really, I just found it strange from someone who's had the same promo voice for 18 years.
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Anyone else here notice how weird Undertaker's voice sounded?
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Makhan holding a syringe while he's cutting the promo puts it over the top.
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King Curtis was The Master. John Tolos's last run was in the WWF in 1991 as (The?) Coach.
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Rob Naylor co-hosts a Thanksgiving weekend spectacular where we interview one of of the World Tag Team Champions, former World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk! A great show (with them carrying me at times) where Punk discusses his past as an independent wrestler, his matches with John Morrison, burying the hatchet with Teddy Hart, having a bunch of merchandise, and much more, including a hilarious Tony Garea story that includes a fine vocal impersonation. Plus, Punk hands the phone to his good friend François Kevorkian (who may or may not be the same one who mixed for Depeche Mode) for a fascinating and enlightening discussion. Almost 80 minutes of the most (self?-)important Loser Leaves Town Podcast EVER!