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I'm actually kind of worried about Survivor Series' buyrate...we may only have one major title match, JBL vs. Booker T...I just don't see anything on this card yet that will draw, unless they bring back Wargames and give the match some stakes like last year's Team Bischoff vs. Team Austin match where something was on the line.

Doubt it. Care to actually explain? They just gouged the fanbase for $70 in a short period of time. It's going to hurt the buyrate of the next show because it's so crammed together. The same thing happened in the summer when they did this. The PPV following did a sub-par rate because they've oversaturated the market. People will only pay so much. Plus, people are going to be spending their money on TNA Victory Road on 11/7!

WTF is it on a Wednesday for? Are they going to show it taped on a Sunday here? Every PPV on 2000 got over a 1.0 buyrate...man, those were the days...

I don't think so, because Armageddon 2003 got a .40 buyrate, and there's no way that did fewer buys than No Mercy or Taboo Tuesday.

Apparently IYH #5 got a .30 buyrate. I don't know if that's different because it was back in 1995 so the numbers are different, or if IYH got around the amount Taboo Tuesday did. But that was the lowest bought WWF PPV in history coming in to 2004, I believe. International Incident in 1996, Armageddon 2003, IYH4, Buried Alive, and Ground Zero were also very low, in the .35 - .45 range.

Does anyone know what 190,000 and 170,000 equal out to buyrate wise? (You know, like .30 or whatever) Also, does this number include the people that buy it and watch on the internet?

Of course if the PPV numbers continue to drop because there are so many of them... I mean honestly, at this rate how many buys will Armageddon and that RAW Puerto Rico PPV do? And will that reduce the number of buys the Rumble gets?

You know how if someone puts on a figure four leglock and you reverse the hold and turn it over so the pressure is on them? Has anyone tapped out to that? They put on the figure four, but it was reversed on them, so they gave up?

The WWE will say that the buyrate can be attributed to the Tuesday experiment, I guarantee it.

This isn't really surprising, but it's kind of funny that this show got the lowest buyrate in the history of the WWE. We're talking less than IYH 4 and IYH 5 in 1995, people.

Darkness Crabtree is a comedy worker, a masked 70 year old man, basically. He's hilarious, IMO. Anyways, I'm sure this was more comedy from him.

10/29 results: 1) Mano Metalico pinned Joker. 2) Lance Steel beat Darkness Crabtree, in a Best of 3 falls match. 3) Lance Steel defeated Darkness Crabtree in a Submission match. 4) Lance Steel pinned Darkness Crabtree in a Hardcore match. 5) Lance Steel beat Darkness Crabtree in a Falls Count Anywhere match. 6) Lance Steel and Darkness Crabtree left the building in a No Time Limit, No Count Out match, and vanished into the night with the referee. 7) Matt Bomboy defeated Din Mak. 8 ) European Rules Match: Claudio Castagnoli knocked out Sabian. 9) IWA Mid-South Tag Team Titles: The Wild Cards retained over F.I.S.T. (Gran Akuma & Icarus). 10) Ladies Match: Allison Danger beat Lacey. 11) Skayde pinned Hallowicked. 12) IPW Mexican Title: Oriental beat champion "Lightning" Mike Quackenbush. 13) Larry Sweeney, Crossbones, American Gigolo & ShareCropper beat Jigsaw, Jolly Roger, DJ Skittlez & Shane Storm, when Sweeney pinned Jigsaw. ======================= Comment from CZWFans: "Matches 11, 12 and 13 were all excellent. I thought that maybe Lance Steel and Darkness Crabtree would wonder back into the building at some point and finish their match since it was a "No Time Limit, Anything Goes Match". I thought it would have been very funny had that been the case. Overall a good show, but the Reading crowd sucks as most are your typical "country bumpkin, there's rasslin goin on" type fan."

Nice work, guys. You gotta love Eskimo booking Dean Malenko into a feud with New Jack.

If the original plan was to put the title on Orton, do you put the belt on his replacement, whether it be HBK or someone else so you can send the crowd home happy? Or does HHH retain?

IWA Mid-South Wrestling returned to the National Guard Armory in New Albany, IN on Thursday night, 10/28 for "The IWA Mid-South/NWA Wildside Challenge." Here's what went down... IAN ROTTEN opened the show by informing the fans that due to travel problems, "American Dragon" BRYAN DANIELSON as well as "The Iron Saints" of VITO & SAL THOMASELLI would be unable to appear. However, NWA Wildside sent a few additional wrestlers to take the Thomasellis' spots on the show. 1. SALVATORE RINAURO (NWA Wildside) def. BRANDON THOMASELLI (IWA-MS). 2. ACE ROCKWELL (NWA Wildside) def. JOSH ABERCROMBIE (IWA-MS). 3. NIGEL McGUINNESS (IWA-MS) def. TODD SEXTON (NWA Wildside). 4. JIMMY JACOBS (IWA-MS) def. "Kool" SETH DeLAY (NWA Wildside). 5. JC BAILEY (IWA-MS) def. SHAWN TEMPERS (NWA Wildside). 6. TANK (NWA Wildside) def. IAN ROTTEN (IWA-MS). 7. Team Wildside (SALVATORE RINAURO & TODD SEXTON & SHAWN TEMPERS & TANK) def. Team IWA Mid-South ("Spyder" NATE WEBB & JIMMY JACOBS & NIGEL McGUINNESS & IAN ROTTEN) when Nigel caused Ian to be pinned, giving Team Wildside the win in the series, 4 matches to 3. The match went approximately forty minutes in length. The event was filmed by IWA-MS with a single camera for home video release. For those in the northern half of Indiana, we're back in the region this coming Thursday night, November 4th, with our debut event at the National Guard Armory (1117 E. Grace Street) in Rensselaer, IN. Bell time is 7:30pm. Tickets are $15 ringside and just $10 general admission, and will be available at the door. St. Joseph's College students, present your student ID at the door and sit ringside for $10! The Rensselaer Armory is basically the midpoint between Highland and Lafayette on I-65 (just off Exit 215), making it an easy trip for fans in both areas. Already signed for 11/4 in Rensselaer... ***Falls Count Anywhere*** IAN ROTTEN vs. "Metalhead" STEVE STONE PETEY WILLIAMS vs. "Spyder" NATE WEBB CHRIS SABIN vs. BRANDON THOMASELLI Plus ZACH GOWEN, MICKIE KNUCKLES, and more IWA stars! Look for more matches to be announced in the coming days for 11/4. The very next night, Friday, November 5th, we team up with NWA No Limits Wrestling to present "Point of Impact" at the National Guard Armory (1421 Park Avenue) in Muscatine, IA (right by the Illinois border). Doors open at 6:45pm; bell time 7:30pm. Advance tickets are available at Big Ten Sports Cafe (2202 Houser Street in Muscatine), Co-Op Records in Davenport & Moline or by emailing [email protected]. Advance tickets are $15 front row and $12 general admission All seats are $15 on the day of the show. ***NWA Iowa State Title Match*** [Champion] RYAN BOZ vs. JIMMY JACOBS ***Two out of Three Tables Match*** IAN ROTTEN vs. JC BAILEY ***NWA Midwest X Division Title/Ladder Match*** [Champion] MATT SYDAL vs. TRIK DAVIS PETEY WILLIAMS vs. DELIRIOUS ZACH GOWEN vs. "Spyder" NATE WEBB DAIZEE HAZE vs. MICKIE KNUCKLES Plus CHRIS SABIN, JUSTIN KAGE, THE ALL-STARS, KID KRAZY, JOEY E, GAGE OCTANE, and more. A special training seminar with TNA stars Chris Sabin and Petey Williams will be held on 11/5 in at the Armory in Muscatine before the show. The camp will run from 4pm-6pm. The seminar is designed for students that already possess and can properly execute the basics of professional wrestling training. The two hour session is limited to 25 people, and is available on a first come, first served basis. Cost is $30 per person and does not include admission to the show that evening. If you have any questions or are interested in participating, please E-mail Doug Ritter at [email protected] to reserve your spot. Visit http://www.nlwrestling.com/ for images and video clip from the last NWA No Limits event (featuring CM Punk vs. Christopher Daniels), as well as more information on NWA No Limits Wrestling. If you live in or very close to any of our upcoming live event stops, and would like to help us out with spreading flyers for the shows around your area during the next few weeks, please E-mail [email protected] for more details. Call the IWA hotlines at 502-569-1701 in Louisville and 630-585-3958 in Chicago.

Okay, here's how this will work. We are going to determine the worst WWF, WCW, and ECW PPVs of all time. So no, you can't argue Heroes of Wrestling or WOW or something. What you do is this: 1) Post your choice for the worst PPV of all time. 2) Post the card results for the show. (You can go to www.prowrestlinghistory.com or some other website to find this stuff if you want) 3) Give an argument on why this show is the worst PPV ever. Make it a better argument than simply "this show sucked and all the matches sucked and it was horrible!" And here's the catch...once someone takes a PPV, you CAN'T argue that one! So if somebody has already mentioned King of the Ring 1995, you can't argue that one, you'd have to move onto Great American Bash 1991 or some other horrible show. Ready? Let the arguments begin!

Yeah, I think they just dropped it.

Yeah, it's clearly not a "high profile" IWA-MS show, and not one that will probably sell a lot of tapes compared to others...but I think it could be fun.

Yep, you've got it.

I always liked Sid. He was always good at least for a laugh. Wargames? It's what they SHOULD have done at Survivor Series 2001, but I won't complain if they do it here. But I agree, they probably won't do two rings and a cage, like a REAL Wargames match.

On a side note, I think the Anderson/Eaton tag team needs to be called the Midnight Horsemen.

-The show kicks off with clips from last week. We throw it to Mike Tenay and Joey Styles in the ring, who welcome us to the show. Tenay says that because of their actions last week, Stevie Richards and the rest of his crew are banned from the building tonight and have been fined heavily for their actions. He says that HBK, Shamrock, and Sting suffered burns, but will be here tonight. Tenays says that the exception to the "banned from the building" decision tonight is Randy Savage, who will be there without the rest of Clockwork Violence. Savage will be in the ring for the main event when he competes in a four way dance against Paul London, Sting, and a mystery opponent. Tenay said the main event would have a stipulation to be named later. -At this point, Dean Malenko came to the ring with JJ Dillon at his side. Dillon put over Malenko as the best wrestler in UWE. He told the announcers to get out of the ring. Dillon said that UWE officials had tried to hold down Malenko, but they couldn't anymore. Malenko was challenging anyone in the back to meet him in the ring right now in a "purist" match. That meant no jumping off the top rope, no open hand strikes, and no throwing somebody over the top rope. Christopher Daniels came out and said that HE was the best wrestler in UWE, and he accepted the challenge. 1) Dean Malenko d. Christopher Daniels at 6:50 with the Texas cloverleaf in a good back and forth match. After the match, JJ Dillon drove a chair down into Daniels' knee repeatedly until security came out to break things up. **1/2 -HBK and Ken Shamrock came to the ring. Michaels said that he and Shamrock have put their differences aside momentarily, because they will be going after Clockwork Violence as soon as they are let back in the building. HBK says that tonight he and Shamrock have been given a shot at the UWE tag team titles. Michaels says that after tonight they'll each have a title belt, and after First Blood one of them will have another belt, too. Eaton, Anderson, and Lane come through the crowd and attack. Jerry Lynn comes out to save. This segues into a match. 2) Jerry Lynn d. Stan Lane at 4:04 with the cradle piledriver after Shamrock and Michaels fought off Eaton and Anderson. A brawl between all three men continued, and led to our tag team title match. *1/2 3) Arn Anderson and Bobby Eaton d. Ken Shamrock and Shawn Michaels via DQ at 6:49 when Shamrock got Anderson in the ankle lock, Anderson got the ropes, and Shamrock wouldn't let go. **1/4 After the match, HBK and Shamrock got into a fight about Shamrock not releasing the hold. They started brawling, and Tenay said it looked like their short lived partnership had already ended! Randy Savage came down and blasted both men with chair shots. He then set the chair across HBK's face and dropped an elbow off the top onto it! He dropped an elbow onto Shamrock, too Savage got on the mic and said that he was a marked man tonight, and it wasn't fair that the rest of Clockwork Violence wasn't allowed in the building. Savage said that he wasn't going to sit around like a lame duck all night, he wanted the main event to happen right NOW! -After an ad break, Sting and Paul London came out. The fourth man in the match was announced as Sid Vicious! With all four men in the ring, Mike Tenay got on the mic and said he was being told in the back that this match was going to be a four way LADDER match! At the top of the ladder would be an envelope. The winner of the ladder match would get what was in the envelope. The four men didn't need much motivation, and started brawling immediately! 4) Sid Vicious d. Randy Savage, Paul London, and Sting in the fourway ladder match at 8:41 after powerbombing London off the ladder. Sting and Savage had both taken a spill from the ladder to the outside through two tables. ***1/2 Sid opened the envelope. Mike Tenay told him that it was a contract for his new manager. Music hit, and Sunny came out! Sunny told Sid that she was going to manage him and lead him to the world title! Sid didn't seem to know what to think about that. -The Blue Meanie held a talk show called "Tangled In Blue" (We'll get this in here somehow, dammit!) His guest was former ECW star New Jack. Jack accused the Meanie of going soft. Jack pulled out a fork and busted Meanie open. Jack hit him with a bunch of weapon shots, and then climbed up and delivered a stage dive to the Meanie! Jack was escorted away, and Meanie had to be stretchered out! 5) The Nasty Boys d. Kronik in a no-DQ bunkhouse brawl at 4:55 after Saggs chop blocked Clarke as they tried the High Times chokeslam on Knobbs, and Knobbs raked Adams in the eyes and rolled him up for the pin. *1/4 -Backstage, Josh Matthews interviewed Arn Anderson, Bobby Eaton, and Stan Lane. He asked them about the tag team competition in UWE. Anderson said nobody could touch them. They were old school and the best in the business. Jerry Lynn came by and said that he beat Stan Lane tonight, and that he wanted another shot at the tag team titles. Eaton told him that if he could find a partner by next week and prove to them he deserved a shot at the titles, they'd give him a shot at First Blood. Anderson told Lynn to "be careful who you pick as a partner this time." -Rey Misterio and Brian Pillman were shown preparing backstage for the TV title finals that would be tonight's main event! -A 6-man elimination match was hyped as coming up next. This match would have great implications on the TV title picture. Paul London would a TV title shot at First Blood, but the winner of this match would get a TV title shot next week! 6) British Bulldog d. Perry Saturn, Danny Doring, Barry Windham, Alex Wright, and Waylon Mercy at 7:55 in a fast-paced match. Saturn eliminated Wright first with a DVD at 2:40. Mercy got disqualified for choking out Doring at 3:55. Doring was quickly pinned by Windham, who clocked him with a lariat at 4:21. Windham then reversed a sunset flip by Saturn into a pin at 6:40. Bulldog pinned Windham with a running powerslam at 7:55 to earn the title shot next week. ** -Mike Tenay told us that tonight's TV title match would have a special guest referee. Music hit, and Scott Hall came out to the ring in a ref's shirt! Hall said "hey yo" and said that we should get this match underway. 7) Brian Pillman d. Rey Misterio at 9:08 to win the UWE television title after Hall gave Misterio the Razor's Edge off the top rope when Rey went to the top rope for a moonsault. Pillman crawled on top for the pin. *** Tenay and Styles screamed about how this was an injustice, and about how this could not stand. Pillman and Hall beat down Misterio until Paul London, Christopher Daniels, and the British Bulldog ran in to make the save. As they brawled in the ring, Stevie Richards, the Mountie, Randy Orton, Masa Chono, and Sean O'Haire came out from under the ring and joined the attack! Richards got on the mic and said that the UWE could not control Clockwork Violence and that he could do what he wanted "anytime, anywhere." The heels continued the beatdown as the show ended! Next show: (the last before First Blood!) Jerry Lynn and his new tag team partner vs. The Nasty Boys Brian Pillman vs. British Bulldog for the UWE television title How will Sid and Sunny work together? The Blue Meanie will be out for revenge on New Jack! Dean Malenko's "purist challenge" continues! Plus, more hype leading into the big fourway match at First Blood! First Blood: Shawn Michaels vs. Sting vs. Randy Savage vs. Ken Shamrock (UWE world title) Pillman/Bulldog vs. Paul London (UWE television title) Anderson and Eaton vs. ??? (UWE tag team titles) Scott Hall vs. Rey Misterio Plus more to be announced!

Lol, Stevie Richards and the Mountie will take over the UWE.

I haven't seen the IWA-MS quad shot yet to judge Candido's performance, but most people I've heard say that while he's a little older and doesn't move quite like he used to, he's really smart in the ring, really good at bringing the crowd into his matches, and really wants to be given another chance, so if that's in the WWE, cool. If not, I wish him the best of luck in the indies.

Post your thoughts, memories, comments, or anything about these shows below! WrestleMania VIII April 5, 1992 in Indianapolis, IN Hoosier Dome drawing 62,167 ($1,250,000) Shown live on PPV (2.3) 1. The Bushwhackers beat The Beverly Brothers (10:00). (Dark match? Pre show?) 2. Shawn Michaels pinned Tito Santana (10:39). 3. The Undertaker pinned Jake Roberts (6:36). 4. Bret Hart pinned Roddy Piper (13:50) to win the WWF I-C Title. 5. Big Boss Man, Virgil, Sgt Slaughter, & Jim Duggan beat The Nasty Boys, Repoman, & The Mountie (5:22) when Virgil pinned Knobbs. 6. Randy Savage pinned Ric Flair (18:05) to win the WWF World Title. 7. Earthquake & Typhoon beat WWF Tag Champs Ted DiBiase & Irwin R. Schyster (8:39) via countout. 8. Owen Hart pinned Skinner (1:11). 9. Tatanka pinned Rick Martel (4:33). 10. Hulk Hogan beat Sid Justice (12:44) via DQ. Guests: Ray Combs (ring announcer), Reba McIntyre (vocalist) ====================================================== SuperBrawl II February 29, 1992 in Milwaukee, WI Mecca Arena drawing 5,000 ($67,000) Shown live on PPV (0.96) 1. Big Josh pinned Diamond Dallas Page (7:36). (Dark match? Pre show?) 2. Brian Pillman pinned Jushin Liger (17:00) to win the WCW Light Hvywt Title. 3. Marcus Bagwell pinned Terry Taylor (7:38). 4. Ron Simmons pinned Cactus Jack (6:34). 5. Van Hammer & Tom Zenk beat Richard Morton & Vinnie Vegas (12:01) when Zenk pinned Morton. 6. Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes beat Steve Austin & Larry Zbysko (18:23) when Windham pinned Zbysko. 7. WCW Tag Champs Arn Anderson & Bobby Eaton beat Rick & Scott Steiner (20:06) via DQ. 8. WCW US Champ Rick Rude pinned Ricky Steamboat (20:02). 9. Sting pinned Lex Luger (13:02) to win the WCW World Title.