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Thats cause Kilborn was ummmmmmm..... I dont know, funny thats it! He was just hideous as a late night talk show host, as far as Ferguson getting the gig goes, it just gets a big shrug and so what from me.

Awesome Czech... damn I'm quickly becoming your laugh track... oh by the way Seattle sucks.

Czech thanks for giving me the best laugh of the day, that was tremendous!

The bottom line is a win is a win. Did Tennesee win a lot of games in ugly fashion? Dude I'm a Gator fan I watched them STEAL a game but you know what theyre still a 9-2 football team and ND (granted in ugly fashion) deserves credit for beating them.

I'll grant you a couple of points here, calling Chow's offense pro-style was using the wrong terminology but its till didnt change the style of player that USC recruited. You still cant judge Willingham's recruiting class because again it was not enough time for what Ty was trying to do. Yes Notre Dame was lucky in 02 but that was more playing out of fear than beating their opponents (Willingham is known for being somewhat of a hardass) but their talent or lack there of caught up with them. Two years of recruiting is not enough, sorry. Also you obviously didnt see me mention that Dama had the best point in this thread concerning Bob Stoops and he is probably the only coach that has pulled or can pull this type of transition off. Thats wrong. It takes approximately six years to MASTER the West Coast offense but you can (theoretically) learn it pretty well in one year for the pros (see Brad Johnson in the Bucs Super Bowl year) and approximately two to three years for college so say somebody red shirts his freshman year he learns the system that year by the end of his first playing year he should have the offense down pretty well. Or USC being asleep in the 1st quarter and then waking up. I noticed you forgot to mention that ND beat Tennesee as well, Notre Dame's problem is that team was too green and Willingham didnt have enough of his players ready to make an impact. Again, if this was the case in 2006 then it would be time to pull the plug but in 2004 it was way too soon.

Up your ass Notre Dame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW! Lots to reply to I'm gonna start with Dama since he makes the best point: Dama I am a Florida Gator fan, you know and I know that Bob Stoops is a special coach. I saw him take a defense where 9 guys (at the same time) couldnt tackle Tommy Fraizer and make it functional enough for the Gators to win a National Title. He's just as responsible as Spurrier for securing the crown. Few people who follow the SEC may know this but in the years following the title the defense eventually became better than Spurrier's offense. Bob Stooops is probably the only coach that can pull off that drastic of a transition with players already there in a short period of time. I'm not claiming here that Willingham is the best coach but he deserved more time to execute his plan if he wanted it. Notre Dame was not regressing under Willingham they were just stagnant. Lets look at Ohio State and Iowa individually. Jim Tressel already had a solid base at Ohio State to work with his job was to change the attitude of the team and show half a brain on Gameday (which Cooper didnt have) so it was easier for OSU to emerge with a national title in a short amount of time. He wasn't changing the style of player for the program. Kirk Ferentz at Iowa is the epitome of getting the most of the least (at least early on) but all he did was employ simple schemes that his players executed very well. Again, he didn't try and change the style of player that gets recruited to Iowa. Willingham needed two more years in order for a proper judgement to be made on him and Notre Dame pulled the trigger too soon... However, there is one BIG caviat to that, if Willinghqam did try to contact Washington while he was coach of Notre Dame then that changes the landscape completely. If that is the case, then they were perfectly in bounds to fire him because he wasnt committed to the job, thats if and ONLY if the Washington rumor is true, if not he deserved two more years.

HUGE difference though, Pete Carroll only had to recruit a better caliber of player that they were already searching for (pro-style conventional offensive and defensive players ) and its also easier to convert a team that was running shitty conventional schemes into one that actually works. As was pointed out several times Willingham had to change the type of players he recruits you are simply not gonna win with option players running the West Coast Offense, quite simply he deserved two more years. And if you remember that team it was insanely lucky throughout the season (in fairness, not unlike Willingham's first year) and please dont try to imply that Bob Davie was a better coach than Ty Willingham. Davie was an incompetent hack who had one lucky season, Ty never got the chance to truly prove himself.

You cant say it wasnt working after just three seasons, if Notre Dame still looked like this by the time his contract is up then yeah make a change, Spicy's list is pretty much irrelevant because he was in the process of changing the whole way the team operates so yeah, the transition would be rough at times, but you dont fire a guy without giving him a chance with his own players.

Are you kidding, this is a fucking shitty firing and Notre Dame can burn in hell now for all I care. They fired a coach with a winning record who is just starting to get the players HE recruits into the program. Yeah the BYU and Pitt losses were shitty but that is irrelevant, Willingham was brought in to change the style of play at ND and he never really got the chance. Hell, with that team they still beat Michigan and Tennesee whether they were "ready to play" or not thats quite an accomlpishment considering how green that team was. If I'm Urban Meyer I'm staying the hell away from South Bend cause they'll take him down too.

All I got to say is ***** show of the year so far. Wes and Maria were both pathetic and deserved to be fired equally.

I was deeply offended by the MNF opening.... That is deeply offended that it wasnt Eva Longoria.

Chris was the only viable option for firing this week. He stuck his neck out and not only did he lose but he got destroyed.

I dont think Trump was petty at all this week. Raj simply made too many mistakes. Sure other people screwed up but in the end it was his head. Plus, Ivana didnt deserve to be fired "this week".

Wasn't the curse something that was fabricated by a schmuck Boston sportswriter? Help me out on this Bostonites.

Okay folks, if youre the Cardinals, do you start Woody Williams tomorrow over Jason Marquis?

I think the advantage goes to Boston here.. They have the starting pitching that can contain the Cardinals offense, I can't say the same about St. Louis particularly on the road. Sure the Cardinals have a good bullpen but what good is that bullpen if you dont have a lead. I think the Red Sox can jump on St. Louis's pitching and the hold the lead most of the time. Therefore, Red Sox in 6

Check please.

I had those exact same thoughts that I shared with my friends who are Sox fans prior to the game last night. I just have a gut feeling theyre gonna pull this off, whether it is Brown or Vasquez going for New York. If its Brown he's feast or famine he can throw a one hitter or leave the game in the second inning, considering his performance in Game 3, I'm more inclined to believe he'll have something closer to a Joaquin Andujar meltdown rather than an epic performance. Vasquez is an OK pitcher but I dont see him having the mettle to perform well in a Game 7. On the flip side, I know Derek Lowe isn't exactly a safe bet for Boston but he can come through in tight situations. My hunch is that all Lowe needs to be is average tonight (ie, 3 runs through 6 innings) and the Red Sox will win this game. I simply dont see the Yankees pitching coming through.

I caught the second and third episodes and I am officially an absolute mark for this show. Forget Teri Hatcher, (even though she's good and still doable) I'm all about Eva Longoria screwing the gardener but beyond that I really like Marcia Cross's character, she is such an evil bitch and I love it. "Rex cries after he ejaculates" made me howl for five minutes straight. The only person I'm not really feelin yet is Felecity Huffman but maybe that will come eventually.

You gotta love the line about Tina tasting everyone's pie... Tina Fey +lesbo innuendo= good times IMO. Back to the topic at hand, Tina and Amy deserve half a season before they can be truly judged as a team. If they (specfically Amy) are still not clicking then its offically a bad move. Personally, I thought Amy was horrible in the Affleck show but was marginally better last week. She still has a long way to go though.

I have to chime in on this. I am one of those friends Bob made through SNL and I have to address a couple points. First off to Max, I understand you don't like the show now and thats fine, what is funny is subjective and nobody is saying that you must like it. However, saying that the pathetic SNL fanboys are the only ones that like it is an ignorant statement. Ratings have actually been on the rise the last two seasons and the Ben Affleck season premiere scored an astronomical rating, so either there are a lot of pathetic fanboys and/or SNL has a broader fanbase than what you give it credit for. Secondly, anyone who uses the "social life" arguement is just plain retarded. Lets see, twenty episodes in a season that leaves thirty-two Saturdays open plus all Thursday and Friday nights and who knows maybe you can go out one night during the week. Think before you type people.

I admire Gardenhire's balls for putting Nathan out there for the third inning and like Verne said, where else is he gonna go? When you have a chance to go up 2-0 on the Yankees you put your best guy out there to get the job done. He rolled the dice and lost but its still a split at Yankee Stadium and I would be be more than pleased with that if I was a Minnesota fan not only for the split but for the way they competed.

Team Apex right now is simply a disaster, I would be harder on Elizabeth, and I understand the leader goes down with the ship but how could she be effective with the cancers such as Ivana, Maria, and Stacie J (no long there obviously) on the team. I cant think of one person that can lead the team to victory as long as Maria and Ivana are around.

Oh you guys suck, yes some of his catchphrases and nicknames are a little outdated but for the most part... Berman rules!!!