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I would hope they'd actually push Val Venis again, I still hold my belief that the man was getting over as Chief Morley before the plug was pulled on him. Not to mention I just watched some ppvs from 2000, and he was more over then the babyface Eddie Guerrero in his King of the Ring match. I'm not trying to use a single match as proof as to why Venis should be pushed. I think his ring work is good enough on its own to speak for itself, and on the microphone he's pretty damn underrated.

I'd kill to see an alternate reality where WCW stayed on the air under the direction of the Eric Bischoff led buyers(Fusient?). Just to see how it played out. Whether or not Sting and Flair would stay on. How the Natural Born Thrillers would have ended up. Would Goldberg still be wrestling? Could Rey Mysterio have ended up a World Champion? It's too bad most of the talent is too old, it'd be nice to see WCW be jumpstarted from where it left off. The whole mention of TBS/TNT just made me realize how much I miss even the last days of WCW.

I might have to buy those sets from fye just for the rebate although I have bad luck getting money back from rebates.

That pretty much sums up my feelings. I enjoyed the late 80s through about 94, then I started to enjoy it from 96 until about early 99. But on the flip side I was never a huge WWF fan during the wars, although I kept up with what was going on.

Well at the very least I'm going to pick up this dvd. I know it's not going to make the rounds in the newsletters for it's "five star matches", but the card has some cool stuff listed.

I miss the Stevie/Thorne feud. Just wanted to add that.

If you guys haven't seen his film called Find Me Guilty, then go check it out. It's some pretty good acting work from Diesel and not too bad of a movie.

I liked Destiny from I think 2004. It has the last Kawada/Misawa match and Kobashi/Sasaki. Also I think The Great Voyage from 2000(could be wrong on the title) is a pretty good show with Vader/Misawa as the highlight for me, and several other good matches. Those are my recommendations for NOAH. NOAH 12/24/2000 December 24th 2000 is the listing for the Vader/Misawa show on IVP.

Hopefully that CNN crew caught every bit of it for their documentary they are filming by following around CM Punk.

It has been confirmed that this will be Sting's final year in professional wrestling. Sting said in Ted DiBiase's "Get a Grip" newsletter that his retirement would come near the end of the year. Asked about a reason, the Born again Christian stated that God was calling him in a different direction. Also stating that wrestling these days is too raunchy, and that he doesn't see himself fitting in with the others. I do believe that pretty much seals the deal on whether or not he will win the world championship at Bound For Glory, although they can still go the route of having him put over a new babyface if he does win like I mentioned earlier in the thread.

While I didn't notice when it was first happening, but looking back at all of his matches and work from those last two years of his career. He was one of the few heels of the last five to ten years to actually get how to create heat.

I was referring to wrestling, I should have been more clear. I do find it funny that so many wrestlers think the screwjob was a work though.

The one thing I'll add to this dead horse is that I agree with Bret Hart from one of his shoot interviews. When the screwjob went down, even though everyone knew it was fake, it turned the business from people worrying more about what went down on screen, to respecting performances no matter how little the crowd reaction and worrying about gaga backstage. Now that's not the direct quote of how he said it, but it's the basic gist of the situation.

Something told me when I got online just now that Nigel won it, it just seemed like he's had too many title shots and was so strong in the pay-per-view match with Danielson that he(in my opinion) had to win the belt tonight.

Sting vs Goldberg Slamboree 1999- The match was a decent bout, and not something that stands out as a classic or anything. But I look at it like this. Your two biggest babyfaces fighting on a pay-per-view should draw some buyrates, should probably draw a buyrate, and should probably have a pretty clean finish unless one is turning heel. To my knowledge it did none of the above, which showed me at the time that WCW was being poorly managed, and needed some big help.

Well I'm sure you know more about it then I do, you seem to know your ROH happenings pretty well so I'll take your word for it.

I like Diesel, but he's probably running out of money to produce his Hannibal The Barbarian, Riddick, and detective cop movies he's been working on for years. I think the life on the fast and the furious might be on empty, but maybe not.

I was under the impression that Joe could still appear for ROH occasionally with permission, while I already know Gabe said he wasn't an option to face Misawa. It would have been possibly I'd think for Joe to win the belt, then drop it back to Misawa on an ROH show. But it was already ruled out as a possibility so just thought I'd throw that out there. ROH took great length to say that his farewell tour was the end of his run in ROH as a "regular" performer.

Apparently Angle and TNA officials sat down recently and discussed making TNA more mma like. What do they consider more mma like? Clean finishes, Kurt feels that we are living in an mma world and the fans want to see clean winners. No more run ins, you want me to win, I win. You want me to lose, I lose. I don't know how true this is as I saw it on prowrestling.com. Just thought I'd throw it out there.

Has anyone ever ran across that promo where Kurt Angle cut a promo on Rey Mysterio with remarks about Rey being a boy in man's world, and kurt loves to play with little boys, and such other great gems?

I can't believe they can actually get people to sign those deals these days with information being made readily available via dvd, internet, books, etc on how to break into the business.

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It took you four years to get through high school?! What I meant, was the four school years, not four actual years. I actually graduated a semester early.

See my only problem with Matt Hardy is, and I will admit he's been interesting with the MVP rivalry, that after he lost the Mattitude gimmick he became very boring to watch. I'm glad he's finally found something to spark that little extra something in him again. I think he's very capable, but he seems to need the right thing to get going.

Oh for the love of all that is good and decent in the world I hope so. Sorry...I was just disappointed by the quickness of the Sting run last year, and would like a title reign that actually amounts to more than one month.