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  1. landy1987

    WWE 24/7 Discussion Thread - November 2007

    Cawthon lists Santana/Valentine, Jumping Bomb Angels/Glamour Girls, Butch Reed/Hillbilly Jim and Hart Foundation/British Bulldogs. I haven't watched myself yet, likely this weekend. Yeah I created the Primetime page for Cawthon's site, and I was only able to get an edited version of the show, and I'm not really sure if Santana vs. Valentine did air on that show or it was just thrown in on the version i had.
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    WWE 24/7 Discussion Thread - November 2007

    Can anyone post a match listing for the new 8-10-87 Primetime please? I've only seen an edited version of the show so don't know the full card. Thanks.
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    WWE announces 2007 DVDs

    This is the complete listing for the WCCW DVD courtesy of www.bbfc.co.uk THE TRIUMPH AND TRAGEDY OF WORLD CLASS CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING (1:33:10) (THE TRIUMPH AND TRAGEDY OF WORLD CLASS CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING) (17:43) (TEXAS RASSLIN' - DUKE KEOMUKA VS. RICKY STARR - "2 OUT OF 3 FALLS") (23:38 ) (FRITZ VON ERICH RETIREMENT SHOW AT TEXAS STADIUM 6/4/82 - FRITZ VON ERICH VS. KING KONG BUNDY - AMERICAN HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP) (10:57) (WCCW STAR WARS - 12/25/82 - KERRY VON ERICH VS. RIC FLAIR - "STEEL CAGE MATCH" - WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP) (34:21) (WCCW - 5/18/83 - "ICEMAN" KING PARSONS KEVIN & DAVID VON ERICH VS. THE FREEBIRDS - KEVIN VON ERICH ALTERNATE COMMENTARY) (15:28 ) (DAVID VON ERICH MEMORIAL - PARADE OF CHAMPIONS - 5/6/84 - FRITZ KEVIN & MIKE VON ERICH VS. THE FREEBIRDS - "6 MAN TAG TITLE MATCH") (12:58 ) (DAVID VON ERICH MEMORIAL - PARADE OF CHAMPIONS - 5/6/84 - "GENTLEMAN" CHRIS ADAMS & SUNSHINE VS. "GORGEOUS" JIMMY GARVIN & PREVIOUS - "MIX TAG MATCH") (6:54) (DAVID VON ERICH MEMORIAL - PARADE OF CHAMPIONS - 5/6/84 - THE GREAT KABUKI VS. KAMALA) (9:29) (WCCW PARADE OF CHAMPIONS - 5/5/85 - FANTASTICS VS. MIDNIGHT EXPRESS - AMERICAN TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP) (13:36) (WCCW - 7/12/85 - KEVIN VON ERICH VS. "GENTLEMAN" CHRIS ADAMS - KEVIN VON ERICH ALTERNATE COMMENTARY) (12:20) (WCCW - 10/26/86 - BRUISER BRODY & THE MISSING LINK VS. ONE MAN GANG & RICK RUDE) (11:30) (3RD COTTON BOWL EXTRAVAGANZA - 10/12/86 - BRUISER BRODY VS. ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER - "STEEL CAGE MATCH") (5:23) (3RD COTTON BOWL EXTRAVAGANZA - 10/12/86 - BRUISER BRODY VS. ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER - "STEEL CAGE MATCH") (7:13) (STAR WARS OF WRESTLING - JUNE 1983 - "ICEMAN" KING PARSONS VS. BUDDY ROBERTS - "HAIR MATCH") (9:52) (TEA FOR TWO) (3:06) (JIMMY GARVIN & SUNSHINE WORK AS DAVID VON ERICH'S FARMHANDS - 7/21/83) (6:35) (SUNSHINE'S ASSISTANT - 6/29/83) (3:05) (FREEBIRDS PROMO ON VON ERICHS - 2/3/84) (3:57) (FREEBIRDS AT HOME - 4/23/84) (4:54) (MICHAEL HAYES - "BAD STREET USA" MUSIC VIDEO) (4:24) (GINO HERNANDEZ AT THE AIRPORT - APRIL 1984) (2:43) (CHRIS ADAMS & GINO HERNANDEZ CAR DEALERSHIP - 4/7/85) (2:52) ("ICEMAN" KING PARSONS VIGNETTE) (1:30) (INTERVIEW - MICHAEL HAYES - THE GREAT KABUKI) (0:47) (INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - SUNSHINE IN ISRAEL) (0:40) (BILL IRWIN - INTERVIEW - FRITZ DOES BILL IRWIN A FAVOUR) (1:42) (KEVIN VON ERICH - INTERVIEW - WATCHING DAD WRESTLE) (1:10) (DORY FUNK JR. - INTERVIEW - FRITZ VON ERICH VS. DORY FUNK SR.) (2:11) (DVD EASTER EGG - KEVIN VON ERICH - INTERVIEW - WCCW LOGO) (0:25) (INTERVIEW - GARY HART - AIRPLANE CRASH) (6:19) (INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - THE BOBO BRAZIL KICK) (1:31) (INTERVIEW - JIMMY GARVIN - KEVIN VON ERICH PULLS HIS OWN TOOTH OUT) (2:21) (INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - CONCUSSION) (5:25) (INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - SURVIVOR) (1:25) (EASTER EGG - INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - HOW WCCW WAS NAMED) (1:20) (EASTER EGG - INTERVIEW - BUDDY ROBERTS - "FRITZ WAS THE FIRST PERSON I SAW WRESTLE ON TV") (0:36) (EASTER EGG - INTERVIEW - JIMMY GARVIN - BEING DAVID'S SERVANT) (0:54) (KERRY'S KORNER - 6/27/87) (2:00) (EASTER EGG - INTERVIEW - KEVIN VON ERICH - WHY I WRESTLE BAREFOOT) (0:35)
  4. landy1987

    "Oops, I Forgot"

    That's not true - watch this Steamboat match from 91 I put on Youtube and listen to the commentary - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5WYDCYy6i7M
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    "Oops, I Forgot"

    I just got some WWF All American shows from 93 and they show about a 5-minute clip of the Bret-Shawn ladder match to hype the release of the Smack Em Whack Em tape coming out that week. I think All American was drawling low 2.0 rating by that point so a fair amount of people will have seen it. Also in fairness to Lawler forgetting stuff, he says in his book that he has a terrible memory, one thing I remember is he said he could never recall wrestling Mick Foley before and then was shown footage of their KOTR 97 match and that was the only way he remembered it.
  6. landy1987

    The Youtube Thread

    The Rockers beating the Hart Foundation in 1990 to become Tag Team Champions (rare clip from Action Zone in 95) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tzlhCt0N9Fc
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    The Youtube Thread

    Total Wrestlecrap so I had to put this on Youtube - Virgil's older sister -- Virgilina! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=obkS-IszSCQ
  8. landy1987

    WWE 24/7 Discussion Thread - August 2007

    The Prime Time they are showing is really good and it's a 3-hour special. And the 6/10/89 Nassau Coliseum has one of the worst matches I've ever seen - Andre the Giant vs Hillbilly Jim but to make up for it there is a real good Rockers-Rougeaus match on this show
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    July WWE 24/7 Discussion

    Everything that's coming up in July is now on the Sunflower site: http://www.sunflowerbroadband.com/cable/on...ng/?network=wwe
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    Tony Schiavone and Jesse Ventura

    I'm pretty sure he did the Main Event preshow for Slamboree 1995, but that was with Eric Bischoff and Dusty Rhodes. I don't know if he did the Slamboree pre-show but he definitely the Main Event show before the 8/95 Clash of Champions (the Main Event show had the Hogan-Kamala match)
  11. landy1987

    Hardy Boys Debut

    I've just put this on Youtube - this was the Hardys first match as a tag team to air on WWF TV, against the New Rockers on Superstars 6-1-96. I've also put up a Bundy/Jeff Hardy squash from 12-11-94 if you look on my profile page. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ziqNNEUf8A
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    The Youtube Thread

    Jim Ross tells a story about Mr Perfect Curt Hennig (this is hilarious) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmapoKYHl_k
  13. landy1987

    The Youtube Thread

    Howard Finkel heel promo from 1993! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjSIVkw1qGg This is from USWA 1993
  14. landy1987

    The Youtube Thread

    Some WWF 1993 stuff I've put up: Papa Shango vs Kamala Kamala vs Bam Bam Bigelow Beverly Brothers vs El Matador & Virgil Doink vs Marty Jannetty Part 01 Doink vs Marty Jannetty Part 02 Doink & Money Inc vs Steiner Brothers & Tatanka Part 01 Doink & Money Inc vs Steiner Brothers & Tatanka Part 02 Yokozuna vs Kamala And there's a bunch more if you click on my profile link
  15. landy1987

    The Youtube Thread

    I've just uploaded this match, and this is EXTREMELY RARE and was never televised in the U.S: Hulk Hogan & Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage & Honky Tonk Man (from January 5, 1987) Part 01 Part 02
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    WWE 24/7

    If they show the next episode (which I guess they will) then you'll be glad to know Heenan is back and the Fuji / Muraco Stand Up Comedy segment from TNT is also shown
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    WWE announces 2006 DVDs

    Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I haven't seen it: These are the extras for the Survivor Series 2006 dvd (from Silvervision.co.uk) Mr. McMahon Cartoon – “Thanksgiving Ass-erole” Lita Farewell Interview Survivor Series - 11/26/87 – Main Event Hulk Hogan, Bam Bam Bigelow, Don Muraco, Ken Patera, and Paul Orndorff vs. Andre the Giant, One Man Gang, King Kong Bundy, Rick Rude, Butch Reed
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    WWE announces 2006 DVDs

    The Piper DVD has been classified in the UK here ( http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.n...1F?OpenDocument ) - revealing some new extras of which Piper's Pits are included: - MSG 3/17/85 with Mr. T (and all the other participants in the first WrestleMania main event) - Prime Time Wrestling 11/5/85 which is the Piper's Pit with Bruno Sammartino from MSG - Superstars 10/18/86 with Jimmy Hart - Superstars 11/8/86 with Harley Race & Bobby Heenan - Superstars 11/15/86 with Hulk Hogan - Superstars 3/14/87 with Hulk Hogan - Superstars 3/28/87 (the original final Piper's Pit) - WrestleMania V with Brother Love & Morton Downey Jr. - I think 4 of the Piper's Pit from Piper's return in 2003 (1 is with Mr. America and the debut of Zach Gowen, and another is with Eddie Guerrero & Tajiri) - One from Raw 7/11/05 (I don't recall who this was with) and the one from the Homecoming episode of Raw - With Great Khali & Daivari from June of this year - And finaly the very first Piper's Pit taped on 1/24/84 where Piper takes over the Victory Corner set There's also some other segments from TNT, Prime Time and other talking segment, one is a story about Burt Reynolds at WrestleMania X
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    WWF Observer notes

    I typed these up and put them on another board, so I may as well post them here as well, some of the early WM3 notes from Meltzer are quite interesting: 9/22/86: I guess the top story revolves around the NBC-TV tapings the WWF had last night (9/13) at the Richfield Coliseum in suburban Cleveland. Really, however, nothing much happened at the show, which will air as a "Saturday Night's Main Event" on 10/4 (originally it was to air on 9/20, but NBC, for reasons having nothing to do with pro wrestling, moved it back two weeks). The bouts that were taped for NBC-TV saw Kamala pin Lanny Poffo, Ricky Steamboat pinned Jake Roberts in what was billed as a "Snake Pit Match," but as we've mentioned before, is just a regular match. By the way, I was told the match was excellent so I'm anxious to see it, because I've seen about a dozen of their matches, some of which have been good, but have yet to see what all the fuss is about; The Hulk Hogan-Paul Orndorff match wound up as a DQ on Orndorff when Adrian Adonis interfered, and then Roddy Piper, who as part of the angle I presume, was said to have a knee injury, came to the ring with a crutch, and chased the heels away with the crutch. Told the match was decent; Hercules Hernandez pinned Cousin Luke; Roddy Piper pinned Iron Sheik in about 1:00 and in the finale, Dynamite Kid & Davey Boy Smith kept the tag belts winning 2 of 3 falls from Brutus Beefcake & Greg Valentine. Greg and Dynamite split the falls with Smith pinning Beefcake to win the thing. I was told it was a pretty good match, with Dynamite and Greg in the ring the vast majority of the way. The building was legit sellout of about 21,000, although with radio give-aways, the paid was slightly less. Still, it's an excellent crowd as Hogan and Orndorff are drawing everywhere, for the most part. In the matches not taped for NBC-V, Koko B Ware (who they are completely missing the boat on) pinned Mr. X; The Killer Bees downed Jimmy Jack Funk & Jose Luis Rivera (Blair pinned Jimmy Jack--which tells you how much future Jesse Barr has with Titan) and Dick Slater pinned Steve Lombardi. Some unhappiness among the wrestlers when the checks came for the week in which they did all the big business - the week of the big Toronto show, which included sellouts for Hogan-Orndorff at the Capital Centre, Hartford, Providence, Chicago, St. Louis plus a near sellout of MSG… Payoffs in Toronto, for a gate that was well over $1 million, started at $700 Canadian money (which, after 15% Canadian tax off the top and a 30% devaluation nets out to about $400). I don't know all the payoffs, but do know the Funks and Killer Bees got $1,500 Canadian (nets out to around $850), Harley Race & Pedro Morales got $2,000 Canadian and the guys in the six man tag team (Machines-Albano vs Bundy-Studd-Heenan) got $7,000 (nets $3,700)… One of the main reasons the crowd was so large was that the sponsor Molson Breweries spent $200,000 on advertising… They returned to Toronto last Sunday (9/7) and drew a very disappointing crowd of 13,000 (they expected an easy sellout, but simply came back too soon after the big show) despite the hottest main event they could possibly have… some match notes -- Davey Boy Smith pinned John K-9 (subbed for Dory Funk who has left the Fed) with a tombstone piledriver--a move he and Dynamite were famous for but weren't allowed to use because its similar, but much more impressive than the finisher Don Muraco uses... Dynamite Kid pinned Jimmy Jack Funk. This was a sick one, as apparently DK was ill or ate too late because he threw up all over Jesse (a liquid type of vomit as opposed to a solid type) and they quickly went to the finish… Hulk Hogan-Roddy Piper downed Adrian Adonis-Paul Orndorff via DQ. It was expected this match would sellout Maple Leaf Gardens with ease. Finish saw Hogan choking Orndorff and Jimmy Hart get the heels DQ'd for hitting Hulk with a chair. Heat was incredible. The heels came out first. Piper then came out by himself to a standing ovation. He was already fighting both heels before they cued the music and Hulk came out. It was a non-stop brawl at this point. After Hart hit Hogan with a chair, Hulk punched Hart and the chair went flying--right to Piper who cleaned house on the heels with it. Piper was still swinging and swung at Hulk, and then stopped at the last second, and walked out of the ring without any sort of handshake or embrace, leaving hulk alone to pose at the end… Next Toronto is 9/28 with Savage vs. Steele, American Express vs. Sheik-Volkoff and Studd-Bundy vs. the Machines (without Andre, who is gone).. As Noted earlier Dory Funk has left the WWF. It was said he left because he was mad about his Toronto pay, although I think he was probably going to leave anyway since he had some dates in Puerto Rico and Japan already booked starting in just a few weeks… Andre the Giant is also gone until around Christmas, as he's in England working on a movie. I expect Super Machine (Bill Eadie-Masked Superstar) to leave for Japan shortly after Halloween… TV Tapings will be held Tuesday in Baltimore and Wednesday in Salisbury, MD with Hogan vs. Orndorff headliners which should insure big crowds in both cities. The Piper-Adonis getting together angle will be shot in Baltimore on the first hour of the taping during their Battle of the Bands type deal… Although the Hogan-Orndorff angle is going big-time almost everywhere, it pretty well died this past week in the Mid South. They drew about 2,700 in New Orleans with that, and about 3,000 in Houston--actually those are good crowds, but considering this is the hottest thing WWF has ever had, its shows they've got little potential to actually do well there. On 10/4 they are coming to Jackson, MS with Hogan on top and should easily sellout, however, since it's their first time in and they haven't burned out the audience by unveiling their much weaker in comparison, live show.. Jake Roberts isn't allowed to use his snake gimmick in Toronto because the society for the prevention of cruelty to animals has come down on it in Ontario… Ricky Steamboat's new lizard is a giant alligator after the last one walked out… 9/6 in Boston drew a crowd announced at 9,100 in the newspaper, which probably means one a lot smaller… I expect Butch Reed to be in for this weeks tapings, fresh with bleached blond hair… 9/5 in Pittsburgh drew a $58,000 gate (about 5,500 or so).. They will be holding tag team Battle Royals in October in several cities, with all of their interchangeable teams plus the champs... Rules are when one member of the team is thrown out; both of them are eliminated… Ernie Ladd has been fired as the third member of the Monsoon trio of announcers after the first set with Monsoon-Valiant-Ladd was ruled a disaster. While I agree Ladd wasn't that good, shouldn't the geniuses have been able to figure out beforehand the trio was a disaster. Why do they keep Monsoon? Well, Crockett keeps his brother so it all evens out… TNT is in serious dangers of being canceled by the USA Network due to poor ratings. That's the real reason Vince gave up hosting the show, because he wanted it to go under with Gene at the helm… The Incident on location at "Randy Savage's home" which aired on the syndie show (I was told it was as funny as the old Memphis skits) was actually taped at the home of an executive from another company. Coliseum will be releasing a Randy Savage tape shortly. Expect some future matches down the line (early '87) with Savage vs. Piper and Hogan vs. Jake the Snake. 12/1/86: The biggest thing from Titan is the Randy Savage-Ricky Steamboat angle which came off better than expected. The match itself between the two was fast paced and all-action. I thought it was a great match, but then I put on a Japan tape right after and realized it was only a great U.S. match if you get my drift. I have problems with them proclaiming that Steamboat almost died and they had to drill a hole in his throat for him to breathe, and felt sorry for Bruno Sammartino because you had to fell for how much it pained him having to go through with that skit. The most significant thing about this is all the hype, until Steamboat comes back to the arenas in mid-January, is it builds up a Sammartino vs. Savage feud. The matches probably won't be that bad either, because Bruno may be old, but nobody can accuse him of not being a hard worker. Savage is certainly talented enough to pick up the rest of the slack when it comes to Bumps and the things Bruno can no longer do, However, for all the talk of being an international promotion and doing things for a world-wide audience, this angle is being shot specifically for a few cities (New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Boston) where Bruno's name still means something. The thing won't even play anywhere else. At this time of the year, those cities shouldn't need a hot-shot angle to draw (and there are some now who even doubt Bruno can turn things around). Obviously, Titan is very concerned about its base. In the remainder of the country, Savage will work against Jake Roberts and Billy Jack Haynes, both of which are matches which will not draw… I didn't hear much about the TV tapes earlier this week other than Adrian Adonis returned and they shot an angle with him and Piper which probably will air on the NBC show as well (spliced in during the editing)… Roddy Piper, Jesse Ventura and Paul Orndorff appear together in a Campbell's Chunky Soup commercial which will air in Canada. The commercial shows Ventura at ringside doing commentary while Piper wrestles Orndorff in the ring… Did you notice the medics putting Steamboat on the stretcher in the TV angle? I did. They were Dr. Pat Patterson (dark hair now) and Dr. Jay Strongbow… The 11/24 MSG card still isn't assured a sellout as they have 7,000 tickets unsold two days before the event. Hulk Hogan is appearing three times this month in New York (12/1 in Nassau, 11/24 at MSG and later at the Meadowlands against Randy Savage). I thought they learned in 1984 what happens when Hogan gets used too often, but then again, they might as well do that, because nothing else seems to work… Kamala is squashing George Steele around the horn to set up Hogan vs. Kamala matches after the Orndorff thing has run its course… Do you realize right now the two heels in wrestling who are put in the position to get the most heat are Danny Davis and Missy Hyatt? Amazing… Funniest skit if you're smart, this Honkytonk thing with the votes is funny. Do you realize they taped all three interviews (the one asking for votes, the one talking about the votes coming in and the one with the results of the voting) on 10/28 in Binghamton. In other words, they gave the results of the voting (and the "670,000" votes) before they’d even received one vote. I hope are presidential elections aren't worked like that… Both Jacques Rougeau and Danny Spivey are back in action after injuries… It's still four months away, but some guesses at Wrestlemania line-up are 1) Steamboat vs. Savage (virtually a definite unless one gets a legit injury); 2) Hogan vs. Orndorff--they have to work some sort of angle where Danny Davis screws Hulk--now I don't believe for a second Hulk will let himself lose the title, the best we can hope for is Hulk to graciously allow the belt to be held up; 3) Vince & Bruno vs. Davis & Jesse (I've been hearing this rumor since the summer and completely dismissed it at first, but every week on TV this nightmare is coming closer to reality); 4) Piper & Mr. T vs. Adonis & Orton (Mr. T needs work). 12/22/86: The saddest news of this week comes from here, as Dynamite Kid suffered what was reported as a fractured spine in a match last night (12/13) in Hamilton, Ontario. Dynamite suffered the injury at some point in a tag team match against Don Muraco and Bob Orton, but continued the match. As he left the ring, he suddenly collapsed. Muraco and Orton started pounding his brains out with chairs, not realizing what had happened. He spent the night in a Hamilton hospital, but was transferred to a hospital in Calgary. It's too early to determine the long-term effects of this injury and how soon, or if he can return to the ring. The hottest rumor, hinted at on the weekend syndicated show, is perhaps that Andre the Giant will eventually turn heel. I can see the appeal of an eventual Andre vs. Hulk Hogan WrestleMania match, and future Andre vs. babyface John Studd clashes. If it's going to happen, it'll be one of those long-running soap opera scenarios that'll climax in about eight weeks… Speaking of WrestleMania, it takes place 3/29 and I think it's going to be quite difficult for it to be financially successful. Titan is planning on touring Japan in April, but it's questionable whether they can draw without any Oriental stars. Actually, aside from Hulk Hogan and possibly Ricky Steamboat or Randy Savage, Titan has nobody of interest in Japan. Savage has never been there so there's curiosity, and Hogan was a big star there before making the big impact here. The rest of the Titan guys like Piper, Orton, Orndorff, etc. never got over in Japan. Adonis did, but today's Adonis would be a negative drawing factor (he'd keep people home). WrestleMania was originally to take place in New York, Los Angeles and Toronto; however Harold Ballard, owner of Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto, wanted too big a cut so it'll either be in two sites, or they'll have to find a new third one… Ricky Steamboat and John Studd spent this past week doing public relations work in Toronto. Steamboat did kay-fabe the public, never speaking to anyone and had a bandage around his throat. Studd was being as friendly as one could possibly be… The 11/29 SNME draw an overnight rating of 9.7 and a 27 share. Generally when the final numbers come in, they drop about a point, so it's still a really good rating. The Detroit broadcast drew an incredible 18.6 rating…Gerry Brisco will wrestle on a few Bunkhouse Stampede's (Bunkhouse Battle Royals) in Florida... Paul Orndorff misses several matches over the past week with a pinched nerve in his neck, but he's already back in action… 12/6 in San Francisco drew a surprising 9,500 (surprising because SF is the only city where Piper can outdraw Hogan--Hulk's last two SF appearances drew 8,000 each) 12/29/86: The biggest story of this past week has been concerning the condition of the Dynamite Kid. As we reported last week, Dynamite collapsed due to a severe back injury during a match in Hamilton, ONT on 12/13. The injury left Dynamite paralyzed from the waist down during the early part of this past week, although he has regained some feeling and movement on his right side. Dynamite was flown this past Sunday to his hometown of Calgary and on Friday (12/19) underwent disc surgery. According to hospital officials, Dynamite had severe spinal disc and sciatic nerve damage. Doctors have told him that he shouldn't return to wrestling, but our expectations are that he will return. It will, however, be several months before he'll have any possibility of returning. The injury actually occurred during a tag team title match where he and partner Davey Boy Smith were facing Don Muraco and Bob Orton. Dynamite and Orton were criss-crossing and Muraco stuck his knee, from the apron, in Kid's back. Kid immediately collapsed and the three suddenly had to go into an impromptu finish, where Mr. Fuji tries hitting Smith with his cane and instead hits Orton and Smith gets the pin. Muraco and Orton then pound on Dynamite with chairs afterwards, to set up the "cover story…" Because of the TV taping schedule, Dynamite's injury won't be acknowledged until the weekend of 1/17. The SNME, which airs on 1/3 and was taped the night after the injury, may or may not acknowledge it. I'm not sure how it'll be played, being they have just worked a possible career ending injury gimmick to Ricky Steamboat, and even though this one is legit, coming on the heels of the last one (which nobody believed), nobody will take it seriously either… Plans are being made right now to hold a tournament to determine new champs, and talk being the way it is these days, I'd put Rick Martel and Tom Zenk as the favorites. The latest on WrestleMania III is the show will emanate from two U.S. locations one of which will be the Los Angeles Sports Arena. The other will be in New York--most likely the Nassau Coliseum. Show starts at 4 p.m. Eastern time and 1 p.m. Pacific (first time the show will actually air live in all time zones) on Sunday, March 29. There has been some talk of a third location--London, England--but the logistics of trying something like that seem to make that unlikely. The main event will be Hulk Hogan defending the WWF title against new-heel Andre the Giant, who will be managed by Bobby Heenan. There will probably be some sort of a climatic change between Randy Savage and Ricky Steamboat, possibly ending with a title change. Perhaps they'll either hold or complete the tag team title tournament at this show. Roddy Piper vs. Adrian Adonis and Harley Race vs. Junkyard Dog are possible matches as well, although both will need heavy-duty stipulations to get "over." Actually Race-Dog won't get over no matter what. John Studd will return by then, probably as a babyface, so perhaps a meeting with King Kong Bundy? Or Kamala? It's probably futile to speculate because I'm sure they haven't decided on much aside from the two top matches and a possible gimmick match (hopefully nothing will be as bad as involving football players or Mr. T--but to get the thing over to the mass media, celebrities are needed)… For the most part, Titan's popularity at this point is well below what it was at the same time last year. The only thing that hasn't faded is the drawing power of Hulk Hogan, and in Andre the Giant as a heel, you have the single-best possible opponent for him--on the surface. The question is--do people care about Andre? Also, do fans realize this has the possibility of being the worst "big" main event of all-time, given Andre's lack of stamina and mobility is such that it makes Hogan look like Ricky Steamboat in comparison… When the new year begins, or shortly thereafter, Titan will begin running four shows nightly. Expect about a dozen or so mid-level types to be brought in to help fill out the cards. Names pretty well confirmed as being on the way--just waiting for a start date--include Scott Hall, Brad Rheingans, Ron Bass, Tom Magee and Steve DiSalvo… Titan's guys are off with the exception of running two matches on 12/20 in Philadelphia after the 76ers game (Don Muraco vs. George Steele and Koko B. Ware vs. Hercules Hernandez)… Ricky Steamboat returns this week and will be replacing Andre the Giant in several cities in matches with Randy Savage. My assumption is this was planned from the start, as I'd originally heard Steamboat would return right after Christmas, not a reaction to weak advances on Andre vs. Savage shows… I don't know if I’ve brought this up before or not, but the Titan P.R. department claims pro wrestling was invented by Jess McMahon (Vince's grandfather) in the 1920s. Just thought some of you wrestling historians out there would get a kick out of a new piece of info you can add to your history books… The next TV tapes will be 1/5 at the Meadowlands and 1/6 in Hershey, PA. In Hershey they are gambling, as Hulk Hogan is getting the night off which is a first in their current taping format. They've always used the lure of Hulk coming to a middle-sized town as the draw for the tapings. Andre vs. Savage is on top, though I assume it'll be Steamboat vs. Savage that takes place. I'll move onto 1987 later if you guys want...
  20. landy1987

    WWF Observer notes

    This is the last one I'm doing as I'm not gonna have time at all to do anymore. There's a lot of stuff covered here by Dave. 9/7/87 Long-time Houston wrestling personality Paul Boesch had a farewell show in his honor on 8/28 before a sellout of 10,000 at the Houston Coliseum. It was a unique card, not only in that six non-WWF wrestlers worked the show, but also that Titan brought in literally dozens of former wrestling greats to Houston to attend Boesch's farewell card as promoter. Some of the mat world notables in attendance included Lou Thesz, Gene Kiniski, Verne Gagne, Jose Lothario, Ernie Ladd, Tiger Conway Sr., (who got a big reaction), Red Bastein, Billy Red Lyons, Jack Tunney, Vince McMahon, Pat Patterson, Sputnik Monroe, Bronko Lubich, Boris Malenko, Nick & Jerry Kozak, Cyclone Anaya (also got a big reaction), Mike Mazurki, Danny McShane (another one who got a huge reaction), Stu Hart, Jesse James, Jim Casey, Ox Anderson and probably several others I apologize for leaving out. It came off like a big event should have and the crowd seemed to enjoy the trips down memory lane every bit as much as most of the matches. Vice President George Bush even sent a congratulatory telegram to Boesch, commending him for his 55 years in the pro-wrestling industry. I've got several comments to make regarding comparisons between the two leading wrestling companies in this country, Titan Sports, and Jim Crockett promotions. After seeing several different types of Titan shows (a small-town spot show, a major TV taping and a heavily-hyped "greatest card in Houston wrestling" type Supercard) within a week, and also with all the JCP shows I've seen the past few weeks, the two groups seem to be almost like night and day. I really don't believe the two are in as much competition for the same fans as many would believe. They attract a very different type of audience and their live shows are totally different both in product and atmosphere. As most of you know, there are things I both like and dislike about both groups and if anything, those same positives and negatives are more obvious to me now than ever before. When it comes to the product between the ropes--the matches themselves--there is no comparison between the groups. Now there are exceptions to what I'm saying, obviously Ted DiBiase is as good as any JCP wrestler technically, he doesn't miss moves, blow up; etc. At the same time, Bugsy McGraw or Jimmy Valiant are worse than all but the Outhouse Jacks and the Junkfood Dogs of the Titan world (and yes, those two are worse than Valiant). But by and large, the JCP wrestlers have more intense battles, miss much fewer moves, are more competent as workers and work a whole lot harder in the ring than their Titan counterparts. I was really amazed in Houston as how many wrestlers, working a much slower pace than I was used to from the JCP guys, still were breathing heavy just five minutes into the match. Lex Luger may be the exception to the rule with JCP, but there are plenty of Titan guys in worse cardiovascular shape. Aside from the matches themselves, Titan's advantages over JCP are so obvious that to borrow an overused cliché, Ray Charles could see them. The Titan shows, whether they be in a small town or a major city, come off to the fans as very professional, major league and organized. The crowd is different in that they are generally better behaved, and for the most part ignorant of the wrestling aspect anyway. For someone with only a slight bit of interest in wrestling, the Titan shows would be far more appealing and for an upbeat atmosphere, they are well above the competition. I saw three Titan shows this week, a spot card in Santa Cruz which had almost no bumps and even fewer high spots, but the crowd was into the personalities and it was even a fun show even though the matches were terrible--until the Hart Foundation/Rougeaus match which was so dreadful I felt like I was watching four guys named Larry Zbyszko. The TV tapings in San Francisco--as a fan in the arena--was a bad show. I've already received literally dozens of letters and phone calls on how bad that was--basically by the third hour, the crowd was drained and most of the sellout crowd of 14,700 came to see Hulk Hogan and sine they didn't know for the most part, that three television shows and an MTV video were being taped, many felt "used." Houston on 8/28, as I said before, came off very well and the crowd seemed to enjoy it a great deal, even though the matches weren't that good. One thing Houston showed me, however, is since they were taping TV 9either for local use or for Prime Time Wrestling, not sure), the wrestlers all worked hard. However, for the most part, even when these guys work, most of them aren't of the calibre of wrestlers--or even near that calibre--that their competition is. Back to the TV taping, however, I don't know how much Titan spends per taping (I wouldn't be surprised at all if the figure exceeds $100,000) but it is so professionally done and first class that from the casual fans' eyes, its glitter, production values, well-timed entrances, distractions from the bad matches (with those interviews insets), short matches so most attention is directed at the entrance, etc. makes it appear totally superior to its competition. That, along with better marketing explains why Titan is No. 1 by such as great deal. The fact is that most markets (and there are exceptions, for the most part any market that was real "hot" for action wrestling for example), the quality of the matches themselves do not bring the fans back--it is whether or not the atmosphere is upbeat and Titan's atmosphere at two of the three shows I saw was very upbeat. It is far more important to get the babyfaces hand raised in the main event than to have tons of great working matches… 8/28 at Sam Houston Coliseum - "Paul Boesch's final show": 1. Sam Houston pinned Steve Lombardi with a bulldog headlock in 14:00. Houston got a great reception and seemed to be enjoying himself. Lombardi isn't the best type of foe for Houston because Houston is into taking wild bumps and Lombardi's offense is mainly traditional face-rakes and stomps. Good for a Titan opener. ** 2. Bruno Sammartino downed Hercules Hernandez in 6:00 via count out. Very little reaction to this match, both guys got tired real fast and there were lots of restholds for such a short match. Bruno still has very quick hands when he throws his flurries, but unless you are in the Northeast where he is legendary, Bruno came off as a slow old man and I hated seeing it because of Bruno aura. Hernandez tried to make Bruno look good but didn't succeed. Bruno backdropped Hernandez over the top ropes and when Herc got to the apron, Bruno knocked him off (count was eight) and the ref just continued to count to 10 ruling it a COR. ¼ * Andre the Giant was introduced to the crowd after this match and was heavily booed. Andre walked one-third of the way down the aisle, then stormed back to the dressing room. Word I get is Andre will probably be back in action in around three months. He's lost weight and seems in a lot better shape now after his back operation that he's been in a few years. 3. Brutus Beefcake downed Johnny V in the hair vs. hair match with the sleeper in 7:30. Both guys tried their best but they don't have it. After the match Brutus shaved JV almost bald (and they finished the job in the dressing room). ½ * (just for the haircut, match was a dud)--I should note that Beefcake got a good reception but no heat at all for this match until the haircut. Ted DiBiase then did an interview doing his Million Dollar Man gimmick. Ted was cheered by a lot and booed by even more. He then brought out a young kid to sing "Yellow Rose of Texas" after a monologue insulting the Houston economy which was very well done. He wouldn't pay the kid the $300 he promised which got tremendous heat. Actually this routine was better than any match on the card and Ted became super-heel after that was over. 4. Tom Prichard pinned Mark Lewin in 4:00 with an enziguri kick. It was all action for the time but the crowd wasn't into it. They both worked very hard while they were out there. * 5. Hulk Hogan pinned One Man Gang in 9:00 with the dreaded legdrop after a bodyslam, typical big man match. Hogan, who got as much sustained heat as anyone I've ever seen, failed to slam gang early so Gang pounded him. Hogan made a comeback till Slick distracted him (Slick was very good at ringside when they were in rest holds) and Gang blindsided him. The next comeback was the slam and the legdrop. Bout was probably 25% restholds, maybe more. Hogan took several bumps. The reaction to the post-match posing was deafening. *** 6. Sherri Martel pinned Fabulous Moolah in 10:00 to keep the women's title. Moolah looked real good here, believe it or not. The crowd cheered Martel even though Moolah was playing babyface. Better than I expected but the finish was totally messed up. I don't know what they were trying to do, but they didn't do it. They kind of screwed up a move, Sherri tried to figure out what to do and I guess Moolah just laid down and said to cover her but it was bad. ** 7. Junkfood Dog (final tabulations on keeping Junkfood's name were 117-to-19 in favor) & Tony Atlas beat Kamala & Sika when Junkfood reversed a bodyslam and pinned Sika in 4:00. Words can't describe JFD now--he makes Valiant look like DiBiase. He was in 90 seconds and blew up as bad as Mr. T in the final moments of the boxing match. I thought he'd almost have to be hospitalized from exhaustion it was so bad. Kamala wanted to leapfrog JFD but he forgot to duck and Kamala nearly killed him. –* ½ (that's negative one-and-a-half) 8. Terry Funk pinned Chavo Guerrero with an inside cradle in 7:00, great performance by Funk although there wasn't that much wrestling. Chavo mainly did the savate kicks and Funk sold like crazy for them. Finish saw Chavo do his swan-dive move and shockingly Funk kicked out at two and cradled Chavo, amazing to see an NWA semi-regular pin a Titan guy in the middle of the ring on a Titan card. ** ¾ All the ex-wrestlers were then introduced to the crowd by Titan's Howard Finkel (who seemed genuinely excited about doing this). Malenko was intro'd as being from Russia. Most got nice hands. Verne wasn't intro'd as being a former World champion although both Kiniski and Thesz were. Boesch then came out and gave a retirement speech thanking all the fans. 9. Ted DiBiase pinned Jim Duggan after an elbow drop off the middle ropes in 8:30. Both guys got incredible reactions--Duggan was cheered almost as much as Hogan. Unfortunately, Duggan fell victim to another series of bad luck. They started out tremendously for about 2:00, working the same style which made their series feud of the year a few years back. However Duggan appeared to weigh about 310 and hasn't wrestled in more than three months and blew up faster than expected. Didn't matter because he was in with the best guy in Titan who carried him and made him look good, actually Duggan was spent after the first minute. A few minutes later, Duggan's left hamstring went out and with a guy as tough as Duggan when you see the tremendous combination of anguish and pain on his face, you knew it was bad. He couldn't stand up so DiBiase had to end it quickly. The crowd had never seen Duggan pinned clean-cut before and was shocked. Not a good performance at all in Jim's attempt to get his job back although it was better than average as a match because of Ted. ** ½ 10. Tito Santana (with a new haircut and outfit to make him look like a Tom Zenk clone) & Mil Mascaras (managed by Jose Lothario--by the way--Ernie Ladd managed Junkfood & Atlas earlier) beat Demolition via DQ in 9:00. This match had the best pacing of the night but was marred by lots of messed up moves because Mascaras doesn't work well with his opponents. Finish saw Fuji trip Tito for the DQ. 90 seconds earlier Tito came off the ropes and stumbled, trying to trip except Fuji was asleep at the wheel which made the finish look bad. At one point Darsow pulled a shoot move (leg trip take-down) on Mascaras out of nowhere which was funny to watch ** ¼ The Bam Bam Bigelow thing finally took place 8/26 in Fresno at the Superstars of Wrestling taping (the reason the Superstars was taped in Fresno, not at the Cow Palace as originally scheduled was because the Fresno building was much nicer looking for TV purposes). Slick was out with Nikolai Volkoff, crowing about how he signed Bigelow. Bigelow shows up, then denies it and brings out Captain Oliver Humperdink (no, they don't really call him Capt. Oliver) as his new manager and later in the tapings, a grudge match with Volkoff is signed and Bigelow squashes him. Fresno taping drew a sellout 9,000 and $99,000 while the Cow Palace on 8/25 drew a sellout 14,700 (probably in the 13,200 range for paid) and $156,000 which is phenomenal for a Tuesday night at the Cow Palace… Several MTV videos have been taped this past week. They taped a Koko B. Ware video to the song "Piledriver" with him lip-synching and doing two takes (and being booed heavily while doing so) at the Cow Palace. It should look okay on TV but they'll have to sweeten the crowd noise. About 200 fans in front were jumping up and down like a rock concert but the rest of the arena was booing. Koko's match with Barry Horowitz early in the show was also taped for the video with Barry mainly taking bumps (including a tremendous dropkick in the finishing sequence which I'm sure will make the video) and before fans even arrived, they were taping Koko piledriving Horowitz on stained glass which will also be in the video. One 8/26 in San Francisco they taped another video at Embarcadero Center which I believe is a group video like the one they did for the last album. Not too many folks know this, but Koko used to sing in a black gospel band--a four part vocal group and Ware has a good voice (at least, I'm told, when you compare him to Michael Hayes or Ricky Morton for sure. The Fresno tapings also contained tons of hype directed toward the album… 8/25 taping in San Francisco: 1. Demolition beat George Steele & Billy Jack Haynes (taped for Prime Time Wrestling) in 8:00 when Fuji hit Haynes with the cane--this was the best match on the card; 2. Koko pinned Horowitz in the video match; 3. First hour of taping began with Honkytonk Man pinning Jerry Monti; Martel & Santana beat Lombardi & Terry Gibbs--Martel looked good in everything he did; 5. One Man Gang pinned Billy Anderson; 6. Paul Orndorff beat Rex Farmer (I believe he's the son of former wrestler Woody Farmer); 7. Brutus Beefcake (great reaction) put Mark Starr (not the one from Memphis, I believe this is a guy from Southern California) to sleep and gave him a haircut; 8. Islanders beat Steve Gatorwolf & Jesse Cortez; 9. In a taped for Prime Time match, Beefcake beat Danny Davis via DQ for Jimmy Hart interfering. 12:00 of an unmerciful dud; 10. In a dark match, Billy Jack Haynes pinned his old buddy, the debuting Rip Oliver from Oregon in 4:30 with a backslide; 11. The second hour began with Billy Graham pinning Tim Patterson. The entrance lasted longer than the match. The music got a reaction, but still no heat and long concession lines; 12. Demolition beat Ricky Ataki & Pete Ketchum. The Japanese jobber took three great bumps. This was the second best match of the night even though it went 2:50 and was a squash; 13. Jake Roberts DDT'd Mike Sharpe. No heat at all, half because Jake seemed to be way below par (injuries probably) and the other half because crowd was burned out and wanting to see nothing but Hogan; 14. DiBiase pinned Lanny Poffo in 3:00. Ted isn't over at all here. No cheers but very few boos and lots of people going back to the concession stand. Ted is now billed from Hyannis Port, MA and uses the spinning toe hold as a finisher. Since nobody submits in "real" matches these days, that's a dumb finisher. DiBiase was technically heads and shoulders above everyone else but Losing Lanny was no help; 15. Hart Foundation & Danny Davis beat Sivi Afi & Scott Casey & Carl Schmidt. The Harts slingshotted Davis onto Schmitz, all six were asleep here except Davis who just isn't any good; 16. Don Muraco pinned Bob Orton in a 4:00 grudge match taped for Prime Time. Orton used the ropes for a pin, got caught then Muraco pinned him using the ropes. Looked sloppy, the pace was so slow it makes Harley Race seem like Takada but Orton at least was decent; Koko then did his lip-synch act twice and was booed pretty hard; 18. Third hour began with the Killer Zzzzs beating Shadows; 19. Khan destroyed Darryl Nickel in a legit negative three star match. Nickel couldn't even walk; 20. Muraco pinned Chung Lee, at least Tiger tried; 21. The Heenan Family (Rick Rude-Bundy-Race-Hercules) beat Brady Boone & S.D. Jones & Dusty Wolfe & Rudy Diamond when Bundy pinned Diamond. Boone & Jones never tagged in, Rude did most of the work and his physique did look better than Hercules. Fans didn't react to Rude at all although the spotlight was on him--more so because fans were burned out. I think Rude will do better here than I originally thought, but at best he's on the Hernandez level as an attraction and really below Hernandez who got some title shots that drew; 22. Randy Savage (who got a big pop) pinned Omar Atlas after several elbows off the top rope. Nobody booed Savage, but Atlas thought he was the babyface so everything in this match was screwed up except the finishing elbows, very poor; 23. Butch Reed pinned Jerry Allen to end the third hour; 24. Hogan beat Khan… The Rougeaus apparently won the WWF tag belts on 8/10 in Montreal from the Hart Foundation but the decision was "reversed by Jack Tunney" the next day because they got the megaphone and used it to win and also because they pinned the illegal man in the ring… Corporal Kirchner may be returning in about a month but strictly as a jobber… Dynamite Kid will also return in a few weeks and is claiming that he'll have made a full recovery by then… 8/29 in Baltimore before 11,000 saw Bruno & Hulk team up for the first time to beat Bundy & Gang when Hogan pinned Bundy. Bruno was in the ring very little and Hulk had to carry things. Bundy didn't do much either. They are going to run that same tag match in two or three other Northeast cities over the next six weeks. This was the first time ever than Sammartino & Hogan had teamed. Also on the show, Santana pinned Hernandez, Junkfood beat Kamala via DQ, DiBiase went to a 20:00 draw with Beefcake (most of the match was stalling) and Sensational Sherri beat Moolah… 8/23 in Santa Cruz before 1,500 saw Houston pin Chung Lee good), Bigelow pined Terry Gibbs (so-so), Outhouse & S.D. Jones beat Shadows (embarrassing), Steele beat Davis via count out (they didn't touch for 6:00, then 30 seconds later Davis did a walk-out, but crowd didn't seem to be mad at all--I wasn't either, I was just glad it was over), Beefcake beat Khan via DQ for a low blow (they tried and Beefcake was over in a big way) and Harts beat Rougeaus (awful as far as action although Bret & Neidhart did a few decent clowning--I mean no bumps, no high spots, just a few good faces being made and that gets old fast).
  21. landy1987

    WWE announces 2006 DVDs

    These are the other extras on the Pillman DVD: 00:00:54:10 (PILLMAN STORIES - STONE COLD: FIRST MEETING) 00:01:46:22 (PILLMAN STORIES - STONE COLD: HOW TO REMEMBER BRIAN) 00:02:16:24 (PILLMAN STORIES - BISCHOFF: PILLMAN LIVING THE CHARACTER) 00:02:42:10 (PILLMAN STORIES - JIM ROSS: NAPTE CONVENTION CENTER IN VEGAS) 00:01:42:00 (PILLMAN STORIES - JIM ROSS: PILLMAN GETS JR TO LOOK AT TURD) 00:00:59:04 (PILLMAN STORIES - BILL CUNNINGHAM: TRIBUTE SHOW FOR BRIAN) 00:00:40:10 (PILLMAN STORIES - MICK FOLEY: FIRST MATCH W/ BRIAN) 00:01:31:21 (PILLMAN EXTRA - CALGARY STAMPEDE WRESTLING - 3/26/88 - BAD COMPANY PROMO) 00:06:23:19 (PILLMAN EXTRA - PILLMAN'S XXX FILES) 00:06:41:23 (PILLMAN EXTRA - RAW 183 - 11/4/96 - THE GUN INCIDENT) 00:04:29:13 (PILLMAN EXTRA - WCW SATURDAY NIGHT - 6/5/93 - FLARE FOR THE OLD) 00:04:23:08 (PILLMAN EXTRA - FLYIN' BRIAN - UP CLOSE)
  22. landy1987

    WWE announces 2006 DVDs

    Heenan did commentary with Craig DeGeorge and Johnny Valentine. Wonder when they taped THAT commentary... Anyways, yes, Jesse Ventura is in there. Something that they did which was pretty neat is indicate who is commentating the match for each match. BTW, no matches are clipped, but Sammartino-Kowalski, Graham-Backlund, and Backlund-Valentine are all joined in progress. They just used the exact same footage from the History of WWF Title tape they released back in 87 - which is why I think all the other matches you listed were joined in progress as well, they just rehashed the old footage from that tape. Although I've heard a few people say that the Backlund-Graham title change doesn't exist anywhere in complete form, not even in WWE's archives.
  23. landy1987

    WWF Observer notes

    This is possibly the last set of notes for a while as I'm going on holiday on Thursday for a week but I'll more than likely continue this when I get back. I'll go back to earlier issues from Feb-March 1987 then as well. 5/11/87: Titan held its SNME taping on 4/28 in South Bend, IN before a sell out 9,345 fans ($101,136). One interesting thing about this is that advance sales for this card were dangerously low (I heard less than 2,000 just a few days before the card) and to save the show, they added a tag match (which wasn't aired on television) with Hulk Hogan and a mystery partner, who turned out to be Ken Patera, going against Andre the Giant & Bobby Heenan (who wound up not wrestling due t his "neck injury" and was replaced by Hercules Hernandez). Titan announced the match on its local TV show the Saturday before the match, and also took out half-page ads in the local newspaper every day the last week of the card, but give them credit, they got a tremendous walk-up and sold the place out. That tag match ended with Hogan pinning Hernandez. In the matches which did air on NBC on 5/2: 1. Kamala pinned Jake Roberts in 5:00 when Kim Chee hit Jake from behind with the stick, then Kamala got the pin using the splash. After the bout Kim Chee unmasked as Honkytonk Man and he continued to beat up on Jake using the reverse neckbreaker and Jake was helped from the ring. *1/4 2. Randy Savage pinned George Steele in a lumberjack match which lasted 6:00. The best thing about this was they kept insisting that this was George's last match with Savage so I enjoyed the bout. Actually, they did a great job of distracting the attention away from the match using the lumberjacks which made it far better than a typical Savage-Steele match. Duggan did a run-in with his 2X4 before they chased him out. As usual, Steele is just horrible and Savage does about as good a job of attempting to work with him as is humanly possible. Finish saw all kinds of mayhem with the lumberjacks and Danny Davis ran in with the ring bell and hit Steele, and Savage pinned him after the elbow drop off the top ropes. Hold on to your hat--this sets up a Davis vs. Steele feud. After the match they had a battle royal with everyone brawling away until Jake Roberts comes back with the snake (and his ribs bandaged up) to chase everyone away. He then put the snake on Kim Chee (who was Steve Lombardi once again--he came to ringside for the bout with Honkytonk so fans could see Honkytonk was an "imposter" Kim Chee during the previous match. **3/4 3. Dynamite Kid & Davey Boy Smith won two straight falls from Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart in a tag title match, but didn't get the belts because the first fall was via DQ. Dynamite looks like he weighs only about 160 now. It's really sad watching him perform now, but the guy does have guts. He even did a snap suplex on Bret. First fall was 5:00 with Dynamite only in the final 30 seconds getting double-teamed for the DQ. Second fall saw lots of diversions for 3:00 as Dynamite got pounded (to keep the audiences attention away from the fact Dynamite is still maybe 20 to 25 per cent effective). Finish saw Smith press Kid over his head and toss him onto Neidhart for the pin. Since Smith worked most of the way, it was fairly a good match. **3/4 4. Ricky Steamboat downed Hercules Hernandez via DQ in 6:00 to keep the IC title. The "story" to this match was Savage was watching a monitor from the dressing room, rooting for Steamboat to keep the title so he could win it from Steamboat. At 3:00, Hercules had the full nelson on and when it looked like Steamboat was through, Savage sprints to ringside and interferes to break the things up. As they got rid of Savage and took a commercial time-out, they restarted the thing and after Herc gave Steamboat the reverse atomic drop, Heenan gave Herc the chain and he beat on Ricky with it for the DQ. Savage then came out after the match and elbow dropped Steamboat from off the top ropes. They sure weren't making Steamboat look good here, as to the fans, he basically lost three times. Given the constraints (having to fit the match into a pre-scripted story and having only six minutes) I thought they did a pretty good job. **1/2 5. Rick Martel & Tom Zenk downed Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff n 4:00. Basically the wrestlers were just but players here to get Jim Duggan over. I don't even want to comment on what the impression its gives fans when Duggan, who supposedly bought a ticket, could run into the ring with a 2X4 twice in the same match. Martel pinned Sheik after Duggan's second run-in. *1/2… They also started building up the Andre-Hogan rematches by interviewing both men and showing clips of the near fall in the first minute of their WrestleMania match when Hogan collapsed trying the slam and they are having the heels get on the case of ref Joey Marella (who as most of you know, is the son of Gorilla Monsoon). Besides the Hogan-Andre tag match which I'm told was okay except when Andre was in (almost never), the other matches on the card saw Jerry Allen pined Lombardi and Ron Bass pin Lanny Poffo. No word on when the next SNME will air. It'll be quite interesting to see if they can maintain those huge ratings they've been getting of late without a Hogan match. A couple of personnel changes here in that Adrian Adonis and Blackjack Mulligan have departed. Adonis was fired this past Monday in London, Ontario, and from the way it was explained to me, it isn't likely he'll be asked back. I was told Titan has instituted a new dress code for their wrestlers (no, they don't have to wear dresses) in that they should arrive at the arenas in nice clothes and Adonis was flagrantly violating it. Other sources claimed he was fired for gross misbehavior (I won't argue with the first half of that) or just plain unreliability. Mulligan quit and walked out, leaving Ron Bass with nobody to wrestle. At least Brutus Beefcake has a ready-made feud set up with Johnny V--who will replace Adonis on all upcoming dates… Scott Casey is coming in next month. It would be a good idea for them to team Casey with newcomer Sam Houston as a cowboy tag team because I don't think they would try and push either of the two as individuals… I was half-right last week when I said the new prelim tag team called the Shadows was the Moondogs under masks. Actually Randy Culley, or Moondog Rex, is one of the Shadows, but the other is Jose Luis Rivera… Fans are cheering Demolition in their matches with the Islanders so there's talk that the Islanders are going to become full-fledged heels… The SNME without a Hulk Hogan match drew a 9.5 rating and 26 share on the overnights, which is down from the past three, however considering there wasn't a Hogan match, the fact the rating was still very strong has to be a good sign for Titan.. Biggest crowd of the past week was 5/1 in Nassau Coliseum where the Ricky Steamboat-Randy Savage cage mach drew a $159,207 gate and a sell out 15,275 fans. Steamboat wins these cage bouts when the door somehow opens and Savage accidentally whips Steamboat out the door… 5/2 in Boston drew 11,834 ($148,776) headlined by Hulk Hogan pinning Harley Race in 8:00 (both bled but not a good match as neither sold for the other well)… 4/25 in Buffalo drew 9,651 ($98,000) headline by Hogan beating Kamala via DQ when Kim Chee interfered and it turned out the be Honkytonk and the double-teamed Hogan. The next Buffalo show is the TV taping with Hogan & Jake vs. Kamala & Honkytonk on top… 4/30 is Oshawa, ONT drew 2,361 ($28,332 Canadian) headlined by Roma winning a Battle Royal… 4/27 in London, ONT drew 1,561 ($18,372 Canadian) as Powers-Roma beat Shadows, Demolition beat Islanders, Beefcake pinned Adonis (in his last match) and Beefcake won the Battle Royal…4/28 in Peterborough, ONT drew 2,422 (#24,064 Canadian) as Powers-Roma beat Shows, Reed beat Ware and Koko won the Battle Royal… Bulldogs vs. Harts, Rougeaus vs. Dream Team, Santana vs. Reed and Steele vs. Kamala drew 4,931 in Montreal on 4/27.
  24. landy1987

    The Old School questions thread

    He did in 92 as the masked Super Invader, managed by Harley Race. I don't think the stint lasted too long though.
  25. That's an urban myth, Reed was never supposed to get a shot at Steamboat on the night of the title change, it was always supposed to be Honky.
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