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I would have like to have seen something along those lines. Beats there current shitty relationships angles. Most probably she would. She always had so much energy, remember?

Very true, but Id rather have somebody try to book a show that could turn out to be interesting than just drop it on the workers laps, which can turn out to be more hit than miss. Is Steve Corino in anyway connected to the WWE? Teddys name has been thrown around. On another note, Bauer didnt do a real good job of MLW and H2O, why Velocity then?

I agree. And this can be done since it hasnt be called Light Heavyweight, Jnr Heavyweight or Cruiserweight. Casual fans may say, X Div, whats that?

IMO, the most important thing here is the DVDs going to Wal-Mart. Maybe that means TNA is finally serious about getting their products where customers are. Hopefully Best Buy and Media Play aren't far behind. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Could anybody give a bit more unbiased opinion on Sean please? Let me guess, BG James is going to be the Special Guest Referee. Great, they are going to call them Jameses. Interesting about Kidman and Moore. With respect to Kanyon: about FN time. Wasnt Ouellet one of the Rougeau brothers and X? Damn good video deal. Id prefer it if they put PPVs on the DVD in order, 3 at a time. Very practical that way and fantastic VFM.

No, I cant. Not until I see Bret kick Vince's ass all over [insert state name here] in a WM match. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> God, you are pathetic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Brets my favourite. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But how would seeing Bret 'sell out' so to speak by working for Vince again and then beating him in FAKE FIGHT make you feel better about the situation? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (1) At least I get to see Bret on TV again. (2) A Vince ass-kicking is always a good thing. (3) Wrestling's fake, get over it. (4) Bret may have some form of future on TV, hopefully ring wise. (5) That means that Bret can finally be inducted into the Hall of Fame, where he rightfully belongs.

A coloured ones? What does that mean, oh panty expert? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Surely you would be more knowledgable on this subject CandianChick. In a similar line, how many women frequent this board? On Juvi et al, they will become jobbers, mark my words.

I tend to agree. I like it when they use each others finishers but since its not theirs, their oppenent kicks out. Ive never seen anybody hit the Alabama Slam though, except for Holly though. Juvi and London should have a battle over who can use the 450.

How politically correct we are all becoming, and Im referring to TSM. Its really sad when some of my favourite posters such as Black Luschus, Porter, Bob Barron and Y2Jerk cant get along. On an unrelated note, after reading about this, doesnt 'Secret' angles always turn out really bad. Im expecting the worst for Eddie-Rey. I think your in the minority there. If you were to add up all the people who liked soccer, football, basketball, hockey, baseball, rugby, cricket et al, wrestling would be pretty outnumbered.

And in your opinion, which was the worst?

Let me start off by saying that he is one of my guilty pleasures. The WWE have something if CCC is getting my dad to watch wrestling. He loves the guy from the moment he saw him and saying thats not cool. He was in stiches when he told Teddy Long: Carlito doesnt shovel snow and when he told him Ive got a doctors note. Which means that hes really bad. Thou shall not understand the WWE's logic. Finally, somebody's said it. All this potential crap is getting me down. Its the here and now that matters. Ahh, you dont like the Buck Wheat style then. He looks VERY awful. Hot Rod Rowdy Roddy Piper > CCC (Entertainment wise) Shelton > CCC (Wrestling wise) Why cant a heel do such moves?

Of course there are other better wrestlers that should get the title or should be pushed hard to elevate to the world title level. One of the people that comes to mind is Christian. If he were given the chance I believe he would run with it and be a good champion. Granted he isn't on RAW anymore. On RAW I believe Val venis has been misused most of his time in WWE. I think he could have been a credible main eventer if they had put some trust in him several years ago. RVD could be a champion (even if it might only be a 2 month reign) as well as Ahelton benjamin (if he got a more distinct and interesting personality). I do prefer Edge overall to Cena. However Cena is better with the talking even though I dont enjoy what he is saying right now. I dont think Edge can talk very good at all. But just like you I prefer the actual wrestling to what goes on around it (the show part if you will). I just watch TNA's PPV's for that reason. I like RoH sometimes but their undercard sucks (or used to suck anyway) and I cant stand the guy who does the commentary (Lovey?). He actually ruint the whole RoH experience for me. The best wrestling organization today for me is clearly NOAH. Thanks for the welcome message <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Im glad that you understood what I was initially trying to say.

And whats wrong with that? Lewis is not a wrestler.

Double post.

What new angle, this is just the egotiscal HBK of 96 and 97. I think you can forget Bret for sure. No way he will help HBK on screen. Id say Nash is past it now. What is this huge problem that he has about playing heel for fucks sake? Hes not going to hell because of it.

How Raven-JJ is developing is very interesting, as I thought it would it. Thank god that Lynn-Waltman has been added in. Yes, it is. Crazy/Rey wasnt anything special but Benoit/Eddy felt a lot better than ONS did. The PPV finish had to constructed in such a way so as to lead to JJ-Raven. I personally have no problem with it, just think that it could be used to elevate Brown back to true ME status. I love it when wrestlers dont fall for what happened to them in the past. Thank god for that if BG is reffing the match. I think your right about the tapings. For me the spoiler thread is a bit of cluster fuck, since you dont know when 1 show starts and the other ends. IMHO Lynn-Waltman needed some form of confrontation at ringside.

It wont for me. I can imagine Vince saying it too. Sabu should be no way near a TNA ME. And did they even bother to describe how Sabu and Raven are back on the same page? He is a wrestler who should be competing for something like the NWA North American Heavyweight Title at best, but more likely the Tag straps with somebody else. I disagree. Ive always thought it would be cool to have a match inside a glass cube, in the sense that it is put over the ring like a steel cage. Things will get really nasty when somebody is suplexed for example through it and it shatters. Broken glass is extremely painful, especially if somebody is dropped on it. It looks dumb if you swing it like a singapore cane. I dont think anything should get up after being drop onto a pile of glass. My sentiments exactly too. Thats why I think it should have happened at Bad Blood, and it should have 3rd gen superstar vs 3rd gen superstar at Backlash in Rock vs Orton.

Out of the current crop of talent: Big Vis Hardcore Bob Holly Im surprised nobody has mentioned JBL.

Thats so sad, dream team? Lex Luger on a dream team? I can understand teams of Hogan/Flair, Austin/Rock, Benoit/Angle, Eddie/Benoit, Bret/HBK, HHH/UT, Sting/Flair, Bret/Benoit, etc... as being billed as dream teams but Luger wouldnt feature in any one of them with anybody. More interesting though, what did Pammy think about HBK?

Good Jackie. Youll get more response here I think. Now its time to bash the newcomer! Only kidding, welcome aboard. You will find life very entertaining here, better that US wrestling itself on the whole. But I have to agree with cabbage. Michaels did the heely thing. He can twist though that he wants to prove that he is better Hogan and is the WWE's number one all time greatest wrestler (which he should have done so IMHO and not said hes doing it for the fans and then Piper calling him a coward, which was just lame dumb pathetic shit). It should have been about HBK releasing that hes jealous of the love Hogan gets now, and HBK is the sidekick, even though he brought him back. Hogan held a lot of people down, but I think it is a strech of the imagination to accuse him of holding Michaels down (Steamboat is another matter entirely, for example). I wouldnt describe HBK as a 'joke' of an IC champ at the time, cause wasnt 1993 after WMX?

So do I, despite one being a purist and the other anything but. I think they have a common ground for atheleticism, which will mesh well together, producing something very entertaining.

My apologies, double post.

No he doesnt need the title to sell merchendise. I said that he is a bigger draw than Edge (not that he is a big draw compared to others). I have no numbers but I'm pretty sure Cena draw more than Edge. I'm not sure if Cena is capable of leading a match. From what he shows right now he isnt capable of doing that. However that can change. I just said I enjoyed his heel gimmick way more than his face one. In fact I loved the out of ring heel Cena (even though I actually despise rap/hip-hop music and culture). As a face I dislike most of what he does. And about him being carried to a good match. Yes thats right (its pretty much what I said as well). At least he isn't Heideneich/Viscera/Tomko bad so that you cant even drag a good match of him. The question for the thread was who was more worthy as champion and that is Cena according to me. He doesnt actually need the title to stay popular or to sell merchendise but he does deserve being champ more than Edge does right now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was just pointing out the fact that the possibility does exist that the Title may be of better use strapped around somebody elses waste, not necessarily either of these 2. In fact I asked for a third choice in my 1st post in this thread. I have my doubt whether anybody really draws anymore, but yes I would say that Cena draws more Edge, but currently, isnt Edge in a hotter programme than Cena, which could result in Edge over-drawing Cena for the time being? You would be right that the programme would be drawing and not Edge per se, but Edge would still be a part of it. Jericho will draw saw people to his fued with Cena. Anything can change in life, thats the beauty of it. I could wake up a millionaire tomorrow or Vince could just sell the company or the product itself could improve. I was talking about the here and now, not the ifs and maybes. I also prefer Cena as a heel, which I must have said somewhere here. But Cena is doesnt work that well and IMHO he is a poor seller. Edge is IMHO currently a better worker and seller, which, technically speaking, implies that he will be able to lead a match a bit better. Granted, hes above the 3 hopeless cases you mentioned (Big Vis has a better moveset IMO). Its very easy to compare him though, the top uppercarder to 3 low carders. Using last week as an example, and just as an example, I prefered Edges promos and ring work over Cenas. I know what the question for the thread is. Ive posted (in my 1st post) that as things currently stand it will be Cena and voted accordingly, despite begrudginly. I didnt want to come across as stating the obvious or act condensing, I just felt it had to be said. Given the same degree of push and with time as Cena is exposed, I think people would be thinking differently of how they post and vote. Im a traditionalist and prefer wrestling over entertainment. Given that, the answer to the channels topic becomes pretty straigh-forward and hence my not loving Cena (and all the Cena bashing). Todays be a very bad day wrestling wise, since Im disgruntled with the WWE and TNA. At least RoH continues to surprise me in a good way. Welcome to the board. Can Edge? So far I've found him boring, even when paired with guys like Shawn who should be able to make him look good even when they're not in control. The only time I was impressed by Heel Edge was the THAT'S AWESOME~! days, and I think he either was being a spot machine (ladders, TLC) or used as the guy who was tagged in to clean house. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As a blunt statement, I personally think that based on what I have seen of Cena's WWE ring work, I find him incapable of leading a match. Relatively speaking out of the 2, I prefer Edge's ringwork and move set over Cenas. That would mean that Edge can lead a better match than Cena, given what we have seen of the 2 in a WWE ring.

She hasn't. Nobody said she has. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Read the below, did 1 + 1 and came up with 3.

I agree totally with what Magus and RedJed have to say. And I think countless others will too. If TNA cant see what a few posters on a forum can clearly see on all counts, then there is something gravely wrong somewhere. I personally thought that TNA were on the right track, making the right calls and booking generally interesting stuff, which was pointing in the right direction, especially with the TV deal. Now was the time given how low the WWE currently is.

I wouldnt actually describe Raven as being shitty thank you very much. And Jeff should be in the X Div, not the World Title scene.