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^ Ingenious

did he really say that?

After hearing what Miles actually did, he should be suspended for the rest of the season. Mo Cheeks has been completely undermined by the front office here and you can't expect him to control that team when Miles can piss and shit all over his authority and get a slap on the wrist for it. I don't blame Mo for wanting to resign, if management won't take a tougher stand what choice does he have?

JR called Haas "Rene Dupree" several times, and when Haas got eliminated he punctuated it with an "AU REVIOR!"

HBK being in that match doesn't make any sense. Hopefully they change it to Benoit/Orton as Benoit has a reason to be pissed at Flair. HBK is involved with Edge and Angle, no reason to put him in with Evolution. Could be a setup for Angle taking him out during the show.

No Holds Barred grossed $16,093,651, Summerslam 89 did a 4.8 buyrate (better than the previous years show), and the No Holds Barred movie PPV did a 1.6, better than the first Rumble show. I don't know how much it cost Hogan and McMahon to produce the movie or what they payed Tiny Lister to wrestle, but from the numbers it looks like a moderate financial success.

Grizz? Paul Gasol is out like 4 weeks which might put them down for a rough month. And it's tough the way they play with so many swingmen in the rotaton just trying to ride the hot hand, will that work without an inside presence? One game it's Bonzi Wells, the next it's Mike Miller, then it's James Posey. I don't entirely trust such an up and down group, they can easily hit the skids. I like Jason Williams though, it's an effective team and tough to write them off. I won't bet against Houston passing them. Houston's #9 right now, but they've got the better divisional record and are only one game behind Memphis, the 6 seed. Plus, they've had major roster turnover, while Memphis has virtually the same exact team they had last year, and the coaching change has been a non-factor on the surface except for Battier getting a slight bump in minutes. Because Houston's been on TV all the fucking time this season I've seen them play and they're a much better team now than they were in November. Yao still disapears for stretches, but McGrady looks more comfortable, Howard looks more comfortable, and Sura gives them a ton of energy. LA I consider a virtual lock, even with Kobe hurt. They have a surprising ammount of depth, Rudy T is a great coach, and Odom and Atkins can handle the on-court leadership for now. No fucking way KG doesn't make the playoffs. They don't even need Spree to do shit. Cassell came in rusty off the hip thing, then he hurt his ankle or some shit, as soon as he gets in a groove they'll be fine, and if he doesn't, they'll still be in. I think the East is a lot tougher to call at this point. Will the Bulls make it? Can the Wiz get homecourt? Will the winner of the Atlantic have a better record than the Clippers? Nobody knows!!!

The Mavs didn't have power finishers or real sprinters. Finley and Nowitzki are finishers, but they're just as apt to be spot up jump shooters, and Nowitzki has more of the finesse game. The best play he and Nash ran was the little screen and fade because Nowitzki could catch and shoot in one motion, and he's accurate as hell. The other guys they brought in, Jamison and Walker last year, weren't really fast breakers. It wasn't so much that they were a running team that Nash created that illusion by keeping everything up-tempo in the half-court and breaking when possible. Nash has turned up the speed a couple notches with Phoenix though. Amare and Marion bring the fucking thunder and are faster than any other 4-5 combo in the West, and they leave the spot up shooting to Johnson and Richardson who trail on the break. It's a different dynamic. Oh, and Nash would definitely work well with Shaq in the half-court because he drives on unorthadox routes, knows how to hit the baseline, and would find Shaq for little dump offs, but Shaq isn't gonna run on a whole lot of breaks

It wasn't that obvious, I had to watch it a few times to be 100% sure. Batista did hit first, but the SD refs audibly called Cena hitting first despite having the best view and being supposed experts at this shit. That doesn't strike anyone else as odd? It's possible that all of this is just smart booking. They know the mathematical odds of two guys hitting at the same exact time is slim, they can't welch out of showing it on camera, they've run this finish before and know there will be controversy, so why not book another layer of conspiracy on top of it just to fuck with people's heads? They obviously want a controversy to exist as justification for John Cena getting a title match at Mania and tried to put both men over as winners. It would have been more effective if they'd had another couple minutes to tease the actual finish, but they still have the footage of Batista hitting first so it worked out.

After reading through some earlier pages in this thread, I do agree that JR should have verbally put over Benoit more, and it's not smarkdom saying that, it's the fact that he won last year by going the distance, they put the story in place this year with him lasting 50 minutes or whatever, but JR never drove it home. Little things like that add a great deal to a match when it comes to standing the test of time. We all knew Benoit wasn't going to win, and JR acted like he knew it too, which an announcer should never do. They were guilty of this with Edge too. JR never mentioned Edge's quest for the world title, never mentioned how he was a main player in the RAW world title being held up for a month and how close he was, how he missed two straight Mania's due to injury. This is the essence of Edge's character yet to hear JR tell it he's just another victim for "THE MONSTER BATISTA WHO BY GAWD IS SO DANGEROUS HE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ALLOWED IN THIS MATCH!" the telegraphing of who could win v. who was just fodder was way too obvious. And I'll admit this is nitpicking so jump on it if you want, but Tazz got on my nerves a little freaking out a couple times when Edge did skin the cat stuff which in retrospect gave away that he would be one of the last guys in there, because the rest of the match Tazz could care less about a RAW guy getting tossed yet seemed overly concered that Edge not fall out by accident. Maybe they shouldn't tell the announcers how they're booking the match and just let them call it as they see it.....

Exactly. Which is pretty much why there's no need for Duncan or Shaq to win MVP when they have one of their "average" years stat wise, which is what both are doing now. I mean, if Duncan starts dropping 7 assists a night on top of everything else it's a no-brainer, and if Shaq starts hitting free throws at a 75% clip and is putting up 40 a night then sure, but if they're putting up career averages than I don't see any reason to give them the award in spite of other players who're having great seasons.

Maybe Stacy can "give birth" to the new Randy Orton

Paul London is a madman. I've NEVER seen a bump like that before. Real shame that the E's only use for him is Velocity matches that nobody sees and cheap pop suicide bumps. They don't let the cruisers loose because supposedly their style promotes injuries, yet they have London do THAT?!! It reminded me of when Taka was in the Rumble just to take a crazy bump and got a severely seperated shoulder out of it. Overall a fun Rumble match, with the highlights being of course Vince fucking up his knee and JR repeatedly referring to Charlie Haas as "Rene Dupree" and even throwing in an Au Revoir when Haas got tossed. You can't script comedy that gold

I like TGTTM and Milk Chan. A lot, actually

It was actually Washington and Detroit on the road, and Memphis at home. Nash got hurt during the Indiana game. It wasn't just that they lost though, losing to those teams is understandable for any team this season, but the way they played the game. Amare and Marion, the all-stars, were unable to play effectively as a tandem in those games, because neither is a playmaker, they're finishers, and without someone delegating the ball to them they exposed the flaws in their games.

I didn't think that was so bad. Eddie went over clean at Mania and there's no reason for Angle not to get a high profile job back. My problem was that they followed that up by letting Angle win the TV blowoff matches and transitioned the feud to Luthor Reigns where it just died. Eddie would have been absolutely fine if allowed to win the big TV match between the two. I don't remember exactly because I was watching SD very sporadically at that point, but didn't they have a lumberjack match and then a 2/3 falls match and Angle won both?

And the same can be said for HHH. HHH is not a great WRESTLER, he's a great SPORTS ENTERTAINER, which in this day and age in the WWF may as well be the same thing. Paul London is a greater WRESTLER than HHH has ever been or will ever be. HHH sabotages his own point by trying to seperate what he does from what Foley does by acting like his shit doesn't stink and putting his "wrestling" style on a pedestal, because they basically work the same psych, crowd manipulation & spot heavy SE style, and HHH got over wrestling FOLEY matches. What a pretentious cunt.

Yeah, that was like the first (ok, second) thing I thought of when I heard Batista won. That's a great storyline to tease for a bit and kill some time with.

Thank god. I just want to boo Randy Orton again, he's a guy you love to hate, and I've even warmed up to his face turn lately out of sympathy because he is not the problem, the problem was the arrogance of the bookers in thinking they could force feed this artificial face character to us simply because we respected his efforts against Foley and Benoit. And to anyone who says they want Orton v. Undertaker.....you don't really want that. Do we really need to see Orton jobbing to Taker to keep the streak alive? Orton jobbed clean to Hunter. He would do the same to Taker. That's the last thing the guy needs at this point. I'm all for Orton v. Edge at Wrestlemania, I've really enjoyed their series of matches over the past 8-9 months or whatever, and they actually go out there and build off previously used spots and situations, which is refreshing.

Probably about 3-4 a day for me. When I drink I'll smoke a bit, but lots of days I'll have just 1 or none, and a pack usually lasts me a week or so unless I'm on a bender.

classic....

I thought the first few episodes were really weak, especially the pilot but it picked up steam creatively and I think it's a pretty dope show now. It seems like each episode has improved on the previous one, and the animation style, especially the tones, is "refreshing" as The Replacement put it.

What I said was and is not untrue, and yes, it is Hogan's natural defense mechanism, self preservation. The fact is, we know how Hogan operates and we know he's only out for himself, so please forgive me if I don't fall all over myself to praise a handful of jobs when he was only doing it to get in the good graces of the office again so that he could pull a power play down the line, just like he always does. Yes, it was nice that he actually put a couple guys over, but he showed his true colors when he walked because Vince wouldn't job Lesnar to him on a major PPV, something that did no good for ANYONE. I'm not trying to drag his name through the mud or anything, I have a lot of respect for Hogan, but the facts are the facts. In closing, no, there is no way in hell Hogan would come in and job to Chris Benoit at this point. The idea is laughable.

That was the reformed, "I'm just happy to be in the locker room with these great young wrestlers" Hogan, which shook down to a means-to-an-end con job. I think we can all agree that Hogan got that jobbing nonsense out of his system pretty fucking quick.

I really don't think it matters. He might have a couple ideas used, maybe have a slight influence on the direction of a minor program, but it's still the Stephanie and Hunter show. At the very least I'd say it can't hurt anything, because his influence will be so miniscule and shit like "The Dog" and Varsity Club 2000 won't fly, and because anyone with his level of experience is better than guys who previously made a living writing sitcoms and failed pilots.