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Seriously wow. Oh my god wow.

The preview for this weekends episode is soooooooooooooo good. *dies*

Is it kind of morbid to be reading that? Hmm...

Ahh. When Clinton left, he put in tighter Arsenic-In-The-Drinking-Water standards. When Bush leaves, he puts in Fuck-Endangered-Species standards. Soo evident...

Damn Canada... stop blowing up...

More bang for your buck.

So, people need to realize that the areas Russia invaded were part of Georgia that Russians kind of migrated to. Also, Russia spammed the areas with Russian passports. Georgia sent troops into its own areas to surpress rebellion...

Yeah that too.

NIMBY plz...............

Be more precise in "a lot" We'd use America's supply of oil up in a few years. Then it would be gone. An "air dependance problem" Wow. WOW. You know, its actually possible to live without oil. There are other means of moving. Jesus... Work to solve the inflation of oil prices? How about USE LESS OIL!? In case you try to drag out that "demand hasn't gone up much" it really has. The Chinese car fleet is coming on-line. Ditto the Indian one. Do you realize how many Chinese people there are!? Drilling for oil would provide less oil than properly inflating our tires, as the government recently pointed out. So what does that tell you? We can obviously save more oil than we produce. For one thing the declining value of the American Dollar has had a HUGE impact on the price of oil. Recognize that. "NO real change?" Obviously you don't understand that speculation is people attributing future value to something. The speculators believe that oil demand is going to go up, and the value of the dollar is going to go down, so the price of oil goes up. Then when the dollar starts stregthening and the US uses less oil than they did the year before, it goes back down. Which accounts for the recent decrease. If anything, this should show you how absolutely volitile a resource oil is, and how uncontrollable. Why do you YEARN to put your faith and trust in a substance that we cannot control, and is generally controlled by people who don't like us? You want to use other fossil fuels as a transportation method? Cars powered by natural gas? CTL? There's a reason we don't do that now. It's expensive and we don't have the infrastructure in place for it. The only people who desire CTL and LNG is people who already produce coal and natural gas, and their proxies. Do you know why Germany was doing CTL work? Becuase they had NO OIL. And they had a war to fight. It is not an easy swap. Why not swap to something that will progress this nation, instead of regress it? Electric cars. Renewable fuels. Do you REALLY want to be giving all our money to the Russians? Instead of producing energy here at home? And Nuke plants? Nuclear power has NOTHING to do with transportation costs. Absolutely nothing. I already addressed the refining, it's not the left's fault on that. It just isn't. And OPEC directly influences the global cost of oil because its a WORLD MARKET, as you said. That means whether you get your oil from OPEC or Mexico, it gets sold the same way, for the same cost. If we stop buying oil from OPEC, China buys from OPEC instead (because we're taking all hte Venezualan oil) Like it or not, the Middle East has most of the worlds oil, it will always control the price of the stuff. Where did I say you had to walk six miles to get to a bus-stop? Oh, and that shit is just going to get hotter thanks to global warming, guy. Great! We agree on something! Intersections get in the way! If you're not up to biking 12 miles, and you have to go 12 miles everyday, take the bus. There should be a bus. Or, bike to the bus stop, bus, and then bike to your location. But seriously, if you can't get anything without going 12 miles, you live too far away. Ok I don't know what you mean by ICS, but whats the problem with the Washington D.C. subway. Shit, that goes underground and they got that built. If you think D.C. is too packed tightly, then what you're talking about isn't much of a city. It's a mess, and busses are probably a better idea except for the major commute paths, when a L-line of some sort would be a good idea! So what you're expressing is the fact that areas of the United States built up after the invention of the car is too sprawled out, I agree with you. But you act like this will continue nicely without my kind fucking it all up. And it's not. If you're saying the entire Metropolitan area of Houston is layed out POORLY, I agree with you. It's car-centric and stupid and wrong and needs to change. There's a reason its one of the fattest cities in the country, and most of the fattest cities are from TX, or areas where people can only ever drive. You say it's not going to work, and I say it's going to HAPPEN. So which of us is planning ahead and which of us has their head in the sand?? Oil is not just artificially inflated in cost. Yes, the 70's oil shock was the arabs not selling us oil. But it was an indication of how weak this country is when it comes to its oil fix. Someday even the middle east is going to run out of cheap oil. Yes, there will always be oil, but eventually production is not going to be able to keep up with demand, at all, and the price is going to spike. Once the idea of oil as a finite resource begins to spread across the globe and everyone starts hoarding it, the price might easily go up 10x or more. Once the production cannot keep pace with demand, thats the tipping point. That's the peak in peak oil. When that happened to America, we started buying from other parts of the world. When that happens to the world, what the fuck are we going to do then!?

VX, the point of Critical Mass is to show that bikes and cars can work on the same road. Corking shows that it can't.

You sound like you believe we've had the Car in America since America's inception....... It is no kind of solution. You, maker of such claims, need to show me any kind of proof that drilling for oil would in any way lower the global cost of oil in any substantial way, in any way that would not be offset by tensions in oil rich parts of the world in ways we cannot control. It is definitely NOT a solution to the problem, because it in no way addresses the problem! The problem is not expensive oil, the problem is oil dependance! I'm not sure what youre "No" line was saying here. But switching to coal would actually make our situation worse. You think CTL tech is being ignored just because? Or even because of environmentalists? More importantly you absolutely need to realize that "our" demand for crude is becoming less and less relevent every day as the worlds demand for crude increases at an even greater rate. Its an absolute fact that America cannot drill its own oil. We have to buy it. Furthermore, its not as if Exxon would drill for oil in America and hand it directly to America, Exxon is going to sell it on the world market as well. Look at it this way. Saudi Arabia can influence the cost of oil because it produces so much oil that it can lower the output to increase cost without seriously hurting itself. It produces way more oil than it needs. We do not. America's production will NOT influence in any sizable way, the world oil market. SOMEWHAT!? Please, my good internet buddy, respectfully, please get your head out of the sand!! (okay 909?) Who on earth do you accuse of price gouging? Catering to OPEC? Do you know who is catering to OPEC here? It is the poster who INSISTS on NOT doing ANYTHING to sizable reduce America's dependance of what OPEN sells! The people at OPEC know full well that we will never be fossil fuel independant. So us spending all our time focusing on drilling is playing DIRECTLY into their hands as it is not time spent focusing on getting off OIL! I already addressed the lack of refining. And Treehuggers!? Treehuggers, all they've done is try to reduce the demand for oil in this country. All they've done is keep America's demand lower than it would have been without them. You think that they've caused us to avoid drilling for oil so much that it dramatically increased the price? How long do you think America's reserves would last if they were drilled at a steady rate, and used by America? Here's a hint: not bloody long. Imagine, if you will, the day when countries stop exporting oil. Would you rather have some oil left to sip in this country, or would you rather we had sucked it all up during the 90's and 00's? Again you people with your "Europe can do it but we can't!" is so sickening. And, and as if that wasn't enough, "200 years of thinking and planning" did not get us where we are today. The American Highway system was created in 1956. So that's like fifty years. I mean, the car didn't really blow up in America until WWII, you know that as well as I do. I don't see, even, why this is a reasonable excuse, and I've said this before. The world is changing. Obviouslyly, as I posted, some European nations are changing along with it. You would argue, somehow, that the United States is INCAPABLE of changing in this respect. That we, by dint of our size, MUST wallow in the expensive past. Let our gas bills rise and rise, even as our gas tax income shrinks and shrinks. You know as well as I do what that will do to the American economy. "A large effort" may frighten you, but it's *going* to happen due to peak oil whether you like it or not. Estimates say that it will take 20 years easily, 10 years difficultly, and anything shorter than that would be dramatically painful. Guess how long I've been railing about this. 7 years at this site. We had a wakeup call in 1970, and ever since Reagan we've regressed as a country when it comes to initiative that could wean us off oil.

They should probably imply that removing oil would relieve pressure on the fault linese and prevent quakes. Just as likely as it bringign down the cost of gas...

Look, it's not the sleeping around, it's the lying!

I can't imagine why they wouldn't put Batman back out during Oscar Buzz Time. People are going to want to watch it again. Like I said in a previous thread, people are fascinated by swan song performances. We'll never see Heath Ledger or that Joker again. People will watch.

I agree that the best lines in this movie were the aside comments. Not as quotable as other ones but damn good!

Fuck yeah. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/opinion/...amp;oref=slogin

909, people have been being assholish to each other in CE for years. Come on.

WTF is Alaska going to do when the oil runs out? Start panning for gold again?

bob, 909 obviously didn't get that memo...

I fence so I'm jazzed about all the fencing that's on this weekend. Opa!

You haven't seen the videos about how they get those furs, have you?

Don't wear furs > humane treatment of animals in life > meat is murder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God hates fags. I'm willing to put that out there as a truth I believe to be self evident. Whether or not all of those things are less than zero, fine. But one of those things is not like the other.

It probably doesn't. The Chinese govt. subsidizes it. I'm sure they use less gas than we do, so its easier, I suppose.