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Oh come the fuck on. To me he has none. Then you're a blind Cena hating tool, fair enough. I didn't used to like the guy at all, I hated him with a passion, but even I came around to realize he tries hard and is a lot better now than I ever thought he would be. Hate him all you want, you don't have to like the guy, but if you can't at least admit that he has charisma, then you're just being a retard. To me he has no charisma. What charisma does he have. Does he have the potentialsteal the show like a HBK, Hardy, Edge, Foley? Am I excited and anticipate what he will say when he is on the mic, like the way I used to be with the Rock, Foley, Flair,Rhodes, Jericho? No!! I dont hate the guy personally, and if I remenber correctly he was a much better in ring worker with more moves the first 3-6 months when he was brought up. I just think they are using him all wrong. I dont appreciatte him force fed to me for 20 out of 24 months as the champ. Everyoine used to bitch about this about HHH and it was ok to. Know if we bitch about Cena we are anti-smark-marks-smarks ( lol )if you know what I mean. Its like it was cool to boo him and hate him for the last year, but just because its starting not to be cool to boo and hate him, we are wrong to dislike him? Sorry maybe its not his fault, maybe its the booking, but the guy bores me to high heaven Somebody define charisma for goldengreek. He obviously still doesn't get what it is.

I know Fink didn't do last year..its just that he's the best, he was there tonight, yet they didn't have him do it. I don't get it. I did think some stuff was ok, but it could have been SO MUCH better. There was so much wasted potential and I hate it. Cena winning pissed me off, but I did expect it, and I know he'll continue his bullshit reign for another few years. I guess there's nothing I can do but accept it and limit myself to watching Smackdown. The backstage segment was stupid, I don't know how you thought it was cute. A retard, two "gangsta thugs", and 2 elderly women dancing..does not belong on a wrestling show.

Bob, I respect you as a poster and I'm willing to listen to your opinions, so why don't you quote my last post and rebute my opinions on each match. I'd like to hear why you think this PPV was anything better than mediocre.

JH, I don't know what the hell you are talking about, I hardly come here and complain a lot. I hated tonight's show because it sucked. To whoever asked, no I sure as hell didn't order D2D and I barely follow TNA. Now, here's why I hated WM23: MITB: Was an alright match. Better than last year's but not better than the first one. I was pissed that Edge got injured; if it was legit, that sucks. There weren't enough Jeff/Matt spots but thats forgivable. I'm upset Edge lost his streak but I'm glad Kennedy won if not him. Kane/Khali sucked as expected. I hate Khali with a passion but I knew he would win. Whatever. The backstage segment with Eugene/Cryme Tyme/Mae/Moolah/legends was fuckin' stupid until Steamboat, Dusty, and Simmons showed up, but still a waste of time. Benoit vs MVP was a good match, but should have gotten atleast another 5 minutes. I would have been happy with either guy winning. Taker/Batista was a good match, glad to see Taker win. The good of the night ended there. The backstage segment with Trump and Boogeyman sucked, completely pointless. The ECW 8 man tag was alright, I didn't expect the originals to win at all, but this match was nothing you couldn't see on Tuesday nights on Sci-Fi. The women's match was of course horrible. Glad it was short and that Melina retained but this match should have been Mickie vs Victoria. And now to the main event..a good match, yes. But the ending was absolute bullshit. Cena has gone over two of the greatest of all time with the same fuckin stupid submission two years in a row. It's absolutely ridiculous. One of the commentators said Cena has been champion 20 of the past 24 months. I don't hate Cena unconditionally, I thought his match with Umaga at the Rumble was great, but he should not constantly be the champion. Let him chase, it's more exciting. HBK deserves another fucking run and he should have gotten it tonight. I just..I don't know what else to say..I'm probably not watching RAW tomorrow. It just makes me sick how much potential the WWE wastes on a consistant basis. Even the little things like not letting Fink introduce all night piss me off. EDIT: I forgot to talk about BOTB. I think the concept was stupid, while it did get national exposure, it makes me embarrassed to be a wrestling fan. The shaving went too long, Trump looked like he would rather be anywhere else in the world, the whole thing just sucked. The match was passable, and the vanterminator was cool, but the aftermath was retarded.

This was by far the worst Wrestlemania I've ever ordered and one of the worst pay per views I've ever seen. I'm probably not watching RAW this week. I'll bitch more about it later.

Read the rest of the posts in the thread.

Having only been a wrestling fan for about 8 years now, I never saw much of Dusty, but after tonight I love the guy.

No, he's just not main eventing Wrestlemania for the first time in years.

There ya go.

I love Cody for giving props to Kennedy.

I agree that "A Million Little Fibers" (the Oprah episode) is the worst I've ever seen. Though last week's lice episode comes close. Seriously, Cartman makes this show. I've never loved an episode he wasn't in. When Bahir came into the classroom last night, Cartman's reaction was HILARIOUS. "UH OHHH!" followed by him squirming out of his chair onto the desk..lmao.

It could draw down the road if they give some young kid (or Edge) a few victories at Mania and then he can try to beat Taker's record someday. It's a money match every year for Mania. The marks will pay to see a great heel like Edge possibly get his undefeated streak broken, vice versa for a good face character. I know that's a long term investment to put into some one in this day and age but there is a chance they will realize they gave somebody like Edge 8 straight wins and take it from there. I was thinking more about Edge vs Taker, streak vs streak at WM24, and I think if they were to do that, they would need to have Taker win and then either retire before WM25 or lose then to either Kane or someone who is an up and coming star needing that boost into the ME. See, if you have Edge beat Taker at WM24, then Edge still has his streak, and 5 years from now we'll be having this same debate over who should end Edge's streak. Nobody should get a streak like Taker's. It's a huge part of his legacy that should always be there. An option would be to have Edge not win MITB this year and then beat Taker next year, but I'd rather see Edge win MITB (and the title, either Sunday or later in the year) and lose to Taker next year than have him lose this year and end Taker's streak next year.

That was an awesome episode.

I'm going to have to disagree, I can't think of one match where Kane came anywhere close to looking like a decent worker. vs Benoit in 04 for the title..Vengeance was it?

If she's in the company in two years, I'll be shocked. She looks like a woman (read: older than 25) and you know girls don't last much longer than 30 in WWE... Unless your name is Lillian Garcia, in which case you can be in your 40s and still stick around. She's meant to be seen as what she is, a respectable middle-aged woman. Candice and the rest of the females are meant to be seen as divas.

I can't wait.

I was gonna post the way I would book it but you got it just about exactly how I would have done it. My comments are in bold.

LOL at Booker getting tagged in.

"Listen you old bastard.." LMAO..Vince is more intimidating than Lashley.

I only caught the last two performances and the recap this week, but I thought Jordin was horrible, Sanjaya looked like a fucking retard (I hate him more every week), and I've decided that this is by far the worst top 10 yet.

When CM Punk asked Edge why they should listen to him, I was hoping Edge would point out that Punk has Edge's name on his shirt. lol

I haven't watched ECW in months..do they do this expose crap every week?

When's the last time they've ever ended a match on a time-limit draw? I do like the idea of the match going 20+ minutes though, if it's a good match as I've heard.

What does he need Joey Janetty around for? Well, they were the best tag team in the company, save for maybe the Hardys who aren't teaming much anymore. Who cares if they were the best team? Nitro was slumming it in the tag division. Someone explain to me how this is bad for him. It's not bad for him, just bad for the company.