Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye

No, I didn't stop blaming the people when our conversation switched a little more to the topic of the government. I'll leave the ratio of blame assignment to interest groups and those who have exhausted all their words on the actual event. This would seem like the most reasonable course to take in the area now. Again you emphasize boldly that YOU are doing something and I am not. Again, this just comes off as appealing to my sense of right and wrong in a Christian sense, and it's offensive. I never denied that you have personal involvement in this at all. The fact that you are going to help your girlfriend and her family is very admirable and I applaud you for your dedication to the people you hold dear. This doesn't kill off the outright insanity that I see from your posts to me. Not exactly what I was thinking of in terms of higher ground. I would say that it would be more prudent to move to higher elevations either within the city or in the nearest possible place otherwise. Yes the people died horribly, but again, they are not without blame in this to, in many cases. And yes, the government is a spectacular failure aswell. Disgusting and very sad. A related question I have now...with all the things going on in the Superdome or other largely populated 'safe' areas that the people are now stuck in, what will the decontamination protocols be after they people can be moved out of there? From what little I've seen of it, it seems that the restrooms and other parts of the building have become open sewers

Why does the city have to be rebuilt? So it can be buried in water and shit again the next time a hurricane comes? It's a fairly glib thing to say but nature always wins. I have no interest in the behaviour I mentioned above being celebrated. People will show this sick form of pity while placing themselves above those they perceive as lower than them. Insanity. I don't think I'd have half the problem with it if the person indeed had a sense of community and actually cared about them. I see it as an all too familiar behaviour. Great praise to those who are not afflicted with this sickness. They don't have to go hundreds of miles, just find higher ground and whatever shelter you can find/create from what's around you. The discussion seems to be stuck on the feasibility of using a bike to get out, but obviously that's just one option. Let's not stick to that point, because I have thought this over a bit and I know it's not possible for everyone. There can be no perfect plan to move that many people in that time frame, given all the various physical and mental conditions of the residents. I'm looking at limiting the human damage. I'm not sure where all the cute remarks about the government are coming from, as I'm certainly not making such an immature point about getting back at the beauracracy in such a way.

This is a stupid thing to do anyway, as it would take away valuable time from filling a back pack or shopping bag/s with a few water bottles and some non perishables and walking or getting on a bicycle. This of course goes into the whole fuckup on the local leadership level that's been covered everywhere a 100 times now about not mobilizing. Better to spend a few dollars on a false alarm then a few billion on cleanup hindered by thousands of corpses. Fault is not the sole possession of the citizens of the city(that are able to leave. Of course there are many circumstances that could take away the possibility) alone, but if they don't even try, how much of a victim are they, really? I really don't like this comparison because the people of WTC truly had no warning about an impending disaster. Certainly not enough warning to facilitate evacuation of the building an neighbouring area. I have little problem with people feeling strongly that they need to do something for the people in NOLA, unless they are doing it for reasons like CheesalaIsGood. If you're going to help the people, do it for them/your community, not so that you can hold a 'good deed' over everyone elses head. Now is the time for thinking on a community level, not more selfishness in that area, and heaping on a bunch of phony goodwill from outside areas is DAMN SURE not going to make things better. Reduce the long term environmental damage as much as possible, get the survivors lives back to normal as much as possible, and move on with life hopefully with a big lesson learned as soon as possible. I pray they don't rebuild a city there out of some kind of egotistical contempt, in the guise of 'human spirit'.

so...you are doing this to feel better for yourself by looking down at your nose at them? And who's fault is it that they need help? The fault belongs to the political structures that watch over everyone, on every level...and the people who couldn't be bothered/find a way to leave after given enough warning to pack up some water, non perishables and bust ass up the road a bit. And no, I won't feel guilty about feeling this way so stop trying. You don't have to go to church and proclaim your allegiance to God in order to be a Christian. I don't actually know what you're talking about when it comes to MikeSC and his circumstances within this forum so let's not sidetrack this again with that topic. Within the goofy talking point box of Republican and Democrat, I wish to be addressed as neither of them, as neither of them apply to me. They're both the same thing in almost every way anyhow. So no...this is not an arguement about right and left. One last point on this thing, you migh want to find a better enemy than the Bush administration. A democratic government would fuck things up on issues that truly and universally matter as well anyway. Nope, still don't feel guilty, despite your best efforts. Talking shit? Well, shit is a vital part of reality so yes, I suppose I am talking shit. Less talking points

Feel better about yourself for showing pity to the people without the good sense to get out before being clobbered? Give them money and tell all your friends how good a person you are. Tell your arguement opponents how terribly they are if they didn't. Good little Christian...good little liberal.

HAIL PENISBIRD!

Pity = insanity. It's merely a tool used by people to look down on others as inferior, and then work to bring them up to 'their' level. Helpful indeed... LOL NATURE WINS AGAIN! http://anus.com/zine/news/1007.html ANUS indicts ADL for interrupting evolution Some fear death so much they protect useless idiots 10:00 PM 9/1/2005 ANUS News The American Nihilist Underground Society (ANUS) today criticized the ADL for protesting those who take delight in the evolutionarily-positive deaths of fools in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. While ANUS is not a White Nationalist or neo-Nazi organization and is opposed to those ideologies, it celebrates the death of those who could not preserve themselves. "Regardless of race, background, color, sexual orientation and genital size," said ANUS spokesterrorist Vijay Prozak, "the people who failed to evacuate New Orleans are by nature genetic failures. They are failed life. They could not respond to changes in reality, which means they're either insane or dysfunctional." "They had 48 hours of warning," said ANUS CTO Penisbird. "If you cannot save your ass within two days of otherwise certain doom, you have nothing to offer humanity." He then whipped out a monster cock and sprayed his semen across the faces of the assembled members of the press, who carefully sampled the fluid and wrote observations in shorthand. The American people, long accustomed to being manipulated emotionally by their government, are gathering today for a giant cry-in about the New Orleans disaster, and will be sending their hard-earned money to subsidize those who could not preserve themselves, in the longstanding tradition of welfare, civil rights, public education and drug treatment programs. "This is an extension of the Christian and Jewish concept of 'pity,'" said ANUS scientist Midvinter. "When one extends pity to another, one feels personally important for having the power to help another. However, this is a cancerous notion, as it encourages the proliferation of life-forms that, being poorly adapted to their environment, would otherwise have perished." ANUS has long promoted the idea that 7 billion humans is too much to avoid ecocide, and that, as many environmentalists have said, the sensible limit for worldwide population is a half-billion humans. "We aren't short of people, that's for sure," said ANUS infoterrorist g0sp-hell. "And most of them are brick stupid and contribute nothing except consumption and defecation, neither of which are in short supply." New stories report that when the hurricance approached New Orleans, most people who had any sense of self-preservation got up and left. Those who remained have been unruly, assaulting police officers and looting all remaining buildings while doing nothing of a practical nature, such as trying to stop the flooding or built temporary shelter. Based on this observation, say ANUS scientists, "it's unlikely these people could survive in the wild." "People who are inferior, regardless of race and color et cetera, will drag us down by forcing us to design society for idiots," said Prozak. "If you let them live, they breed, and soon you have to dumb everything down to accomodate them. It's great for industry, because they buy whatever they see on TV, but bad for those who can feed themselves without an instructional video." Despite their loathing of Undermen, the ANUS organization has determined that in order to meet its projected budget needs, it will launch a line of instructional videotapes, starting with the inspirational "How To Avoid a Hurricane Within 48 Hours." The videos will be hosted by legendary underground black metal artist Paul Ledney, who will be naked and covered in blood in order to express his individuality. About ANUS The American Nihilist Underground Society advocates nihilism, or a removal of interpretive layers from our perception of physical reality, as a means of transcending neurotic crowdism and thus achieving adaptive success. It has been online since 1995 and attracts thousands of readers daily with articles about philosophy, politics, music and culture. Every major internet filtering service bans anus.com, and many "anti-hate" organizations decry it as an anti-crowdist site which must be censored and its perpetrators bankrupted. http://www.anus.com/ About Nihilism Nihilism is the belief that nothing we perceive has Absolute value; reality exists, but beyond its inherent meaning to us as the physical container of our existence, it has no significance outside of what we perceive. "The world is my representation," indeed. When we strip away all of the values projected onto physical reality and its outcomes, we are left only with personal ideal and natural ideal, and bringing the former into adaptation with the latter is the lifetime task to which nihilism is a gateway. http://www.nihil.org/ wait there's more! As Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans on Monday, experts said it could turn one of America's most charming cities into a vast cesspool tainted with toxic chemicals, human waste and even coffins released by floodwaters from the city's legendary cemeteries. Experts have warned for years that the levees and pumps that usually keep New Orleans dry have no chance against a direct hit by a Category 5 storm. That's exactly what Katrina was as it churned toward the city. With top winds of 160 mph and the power to lift sea level by as much as 28 feet above normal, the storm threatened an environmental disaster of biblical proportions, one that could leave more than 1 million people homeless. "All indications are that this is absolutely worst-case scenario," Ivor van Heerden, deputy director of the Louisiana State University Hurricane Center, said Sunday afternoon. The center's latest computer simulations indicate that by Tuesday, vast swaths of New Orleans could be under water up to 30 feet deep. In the French Quarter, the water could reach 20 feet, easily submerging the district's iconic cast-iron balconies and bars. Estimates predict that 60 percent to 80 percent of the city's houses will be destroyed by wind. With the flood damage, most of the people who live in and around New Orleans could be homeless. "We're talking about in essence having - in the continental United States - having a refugee camp of a million people," van Heerden said. Aside from Hurricane Andrew, which struck Miami in 1992, forecasters have no experience with Category 5 hurricanes hitting densely populated areas. "Hurricanes rarely sustain such extreme winds for much time. However we see no obvious large-scale effects to cause a substantial weakening the system and it is expected that the hurricane will be of Category 4 or 5 intensity when it reaches the coast," National Hurricane Center meteorologist Richard Pasch said. As they raced to put meteorological instruments in Katrina's path Sunday, wind engineers had little idea what their equipment would record. "We haven't seen something this big since we started the program," said Kurt Gurley, a University of Florida engineering professor. He works for the Florida Coastal Monitoring Program, which is in its seventh year of making detailed measurements of hurricane wind conditions using a set of mobile weather stations. Experts have warned about New Orleans' vulnerability for years, chiefly because Louisiana has lost more than a million acres of coastal wetlands in the past seven decades. The vast patchwork of swamps and bayous south of the city serves as a buffer, partially absorbing the surge of water that a hurricane pushes ashore. Experts have also warned that the ring of high levees around New Orleans, designed to protect the city from floodwaters coming down the Mississippi, will only make things worse in a powerful hurricane. Katrina is expected to push a 28-foot storm surge against the levees. Even if they hold, water will pour over their tops and begin filling the city as if it were a sinking canoe. After the storm passes, the water will have nowhere to go. In a few days, van Heerden predicts, emergency management officials are going to be wondering how to handle a giant stagnant pond contaminated with building debris, coffins, sewage and other hazardous materials. "We're talking about an incredible environmental disaster," van Heerden said. He puts much of the blame for New Orleans' dire situation on the very levee system that is designed to protect southern Louisiana from Mississippi River floods. Before the levees were built, the river would top its banks during floods and wash through a maze of bayous and swamps, dropping fine-grained silt that nourished plants and kept the land just above sea level. The levees "have literally starved our wetlands to death" by directing all of that precious silt out into the Gulf of Mexico, van Heerden said. It has been 40 years since New Orleans faced a hurricane even comparable to Katrina. In 1965, Hurricane Betsy, a Category 3 storm, submerged some parts of the city to a depth of seven feet. Since then, the Big Easy has had nothing but near misses. In 1998, Hurricane Georges headed straight for New Orleans, then swerved at the last minute to strike Mississippi and Alabama. Hurricane Lili blew herself out at the mouth of the Mississippi in 2002. And last year's Hurricane Ivan obligingly curved to the east as it came ashore, barely grazing a grateful city. closest thing I could come to the original source: http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/K...G_ONE?SITE=KVUE

I agree, eugenics really is a good idea.

Theater Of Tragedy - Theater Of Tragedy. Only that.

I felt bored with being a lower half member, so I left for a while. When there's something interesting to talk about in the music folder, that's likely where I'll be. For my other boarding needs I just read, or post vaguely National Socialist writings at The Pit. It's a fine existence.

This just pretty much proves that Iron Maiden is above the festival of undermen that is Ozzfest. This is dissapointing, but not suprising. Testimony from my brother seeing this festival earlier in the tour(in virginia) paraphrased: Maiden was godly, obviously so far above the rest of the show with their proficiency and charisma. Sabbath was sloppy and boring. I haven't read anything about the fest other than this story, but maybe this sentiment was becoming too prevalent from the fans with any sort of good taste?

Darkthrone Transilvanian Hunger Peaceville 1994 Production: More desperately distorted and flagrantly low-fi than any previous release in rock or metal, this album uses organic granularity in production to highlight the essential tones within its (complex but minimalistic) melodies. Review: An album of pure melody running like riverstreams under a pulsing ambient beat with no teleology or intention other than a continuous cycle of aggression and ambiguity brings forth its genius in the complexity of the relations in these deliberately scaled-down simple riffs and melodic interchanges. Highly dissonant in its composition, this music builds spaces to grow in from the seemingly random and nihilistic combinations of notes that are simultaneously familiar in their essential relationships. 1. Transilvanian Hunger 2. Over Fjell Og Gjennom Torner 3. Skald Av Satans Sol 4. Slottet I det Fjerne 5. Graven Tåkeheimens Saler 6. I En Hall Med Flesk Og Mjød 7. As Flittermice As Satans Spys 8. En Ås I Dype Skogen Length: 39:06 Master percussionist Fenriz extends his philosophy of simple drumming to a style where the toms and bass interplay for a constant roughshod grapple of elemental forces as accented by the sinister shadow of a companion cymbal or high-hat, riding each other into a continuity unprecedented in this genre, including archly-satanic battlefield fills that in simplicity and desperation express the dying gasp of a world aflame with its own denial. Over that guitars layer melody in single notes and contrapuntal dissonant patterns, creating a void of extreme ambiguity that demonstrates the doppler effect in music by approaching beat centers with a rising or descending but paradoxically oppositional melody. Orchestration of construction makes the brilliance of this album; raw patterns fashioned from chaos build entities of sublime profundity from the subconscious parsing of metaphorical structure. The voice of bitter wisdom sounding harsh angular tones above the raging madness acts as commentator; the music stands alone. http://anus.com/metal/darkthrone.html

Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger.

messageboarding is so fucking retarded anymore.

Fucking EMO...Mortal, I just can't believe it.

http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=bom...s.com/index.php? VERY RELEVANT

First music post I could find http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?showtopic=2376 First HD thread http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?showtopic=12551 I'm guessing that this was some sort of gang warz in the time before gang warz. Not quite sure what tha dilly I'm not paging through WWE folder to find my first one there. Is there a way to search posts from before the board crash.

It's funny because you should do it.

Yes. At my expense.

Delete TSM.

That doesn't make it any less sick.

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Terrible record, even by BLS standards. I'd hope you would agree if you've heard their other records(less terrible)