Hunter's Torn Quad

The 2002 KOTR PPV got, for that time, what was considered a disappointing buy rate. The tournament got the blame for it, because it was decided that it couldn't possibly have been the fault of the Triple H v Undertaker main event. So, the tournament got scrapped for good.

The turn was decided on the day before.

I'm not surprised, apparently Bret wiped the floor with him. I think it was one of LOD who said Bret would've killed him had it not been broken up. It wasn't Shawn's first scuffle. On their last night with the company in 1995, The Bruise Brothers politely informed Shawn that they were a little displeased with his conduct. One of them barred the locker room door, and the other grabbed Shawn by the throat and held him up against the wall, while gently informing Shawn that he had commited a faux pas. Which Bruise Brothers were these? 1995 was during my WWF "blackout" period (93-98). I have seen some tapes of 1995, but not much. They were Jacob and Eli Blu.

I'm not surprised, apparently Bret wiped the floor with him. I think it was one of LOD who said Bret would've killed him had it not been broken up. It wasn't Shawn's first scuffle. On their last night with the company in 1995, The Bruise Brothers politely informed Shawn that they were a little displeased with his conduct. One of them barred the locker room door, and the other grabbed Shawn by the throat and held him up against the wall, while gently informing Shawn that he had commited a faux pas.

Is it just me, or does Vince's hair appear to have changed shape from when he first appeared on screen to when he showed up at the end of the night ?

That wasn't a Dusty Finish. It was meant to be a legit title change, and was only changed because the circumstances dictating the change did.

I know he said it was a match he was very proud of, because Davey Boy forgot everything they'd laid out almost right away, and Bret had to call everything on the fly.

He had a run their against Superstar Billy Graham when Graham was WWWF Champion.

Michaels vacated his half of the tag titles after getting into the fight with Bret Hart. Michaels had refused to return to the WWF, and wanted out of his contract, citing an unsafe working environment.

One was Al Greene, who teamed with Kevin Nash as The Master Blasters back in 1990. The other was Florida indy worker The Terminator, who is actually the brother of Road Warrior Animal and Johnny Ace.

It was a tag match for Jakked right at the end of 2000. He was indefinitely suspended to deal with the drug issues, as well as a personal situation, and was then formally let go a short while after that.

Gunn's losing to Shamrock at the Rumble wasn't a punishment. but the finish was. Originally, he was to lose via outside interference, but it got changed to him losing clean via submission. Edge beat Jarrett for the IC Title because Ken Shamrock, ironically, had transportation problems, so they gave Edge the win because he was losing to Jarrett the next day at the PPV anyway. And it was Fully Loaded, not Summerslam.

He and McMahon have the same fondness for toilet humor.

That was one of Russo's many faults; his obsession with surprising people with something they didn't see coming. While a logical surprise can be nice from time to time, Russo was never able or willing to grasp the concept that a surprise that has no rhyme or reason to happen is pointless, and that while people didn't see it coming, they didn't see it coming because it made no sense.

Silly poster. You must be thinking of a company that wanted to make money.

At a guess, Russo. It's the kind of thing that makes no sense at all that he loves to do just for the sake of doing it.

The Warrior rumors came about because the WWF, during his title run, were regularly changing his hair, his facepaint and even the color of the WWF Title belt, in an attempt to find some sort of look that would catch on with people.

It's without question TNA are lucky to be alive. Jerry Jarrett was literally a day away from folding TNA before Panda Energy stepped in. TNA are defying the odds, and more power to them on that front, but you can't survive forever by defying the odds. Sooner or later you have to turn the odds in your favor, and TNA haven't done that, and until they do it's quite right to question how long they can keep going.

I'll just repost what I said in the other thread about this: That was what was so bad about this one. He went through half the roster and highlighted their legitimate weaknesses. That's stupid, no matter who does it, but it's more stupid when a heel does it. Heels are never meant to say things that people can't refute, and they absolutely should not put down babyfaces in a manner that people can say he's bang on the money with. That is what Hunter did, and that is why it was a horrible promo and one he is rightfully getting criticised for.

The R N' R's worked smaller rooms though, and the same region. You can't really compare the reaction they'd get at the mid-south colliseum to the Rockers working big arenas across the country for McMahon. This was in a packed, 15,000 seat Charlotte and Greensboro Coliseums, amongst other places. The crowds were comparable to anything Vince was drawing at the time. Everyone was going batshit for these guys, and it was beyond deafening. The Rockers never got anything close to this, but then again almost nobody could. Shawn's selling wasn't in the same league as Ricky Morton's. The Rockers would have drawn well, but Ricky's selling just put the RnR's drawing potential above The Rockers.

Well, now Jeb wants custody of her.

I've heard live reactions to the Rock and Roll Express, and it blows away absolutely anything The Rockers, or almost anyone else in history for that matter, got. It was absolutely insane.

Hogan won the IWGP League, which was a tournament. The actual IWGP Title wasn't created until 1987.

The Rock 'n' Roll Express blow away The Rockers in all departments. While The Rockers were no slouches, but the RnR Express were so far above them. While Shawn did get some really good heat when he was selling, Ricky Morton's was on another level. Robert Gibson was also far better than Marty at working the corner, and their teamwork was far smoother. While individually, at varying points, Shawn and Marty were probably better workers, as a team, Ricky and Robert were superior in every way.

A great draw can draw a good buy rate against all but the most un-over of opponents. IYH: D-X got, for the time, a terrible buy rate. If Shawn was as good a draw as he was a heel, IYH: DX would have gotten a lot more buys than it did. And, as I actually did point out, he didn't wrestle on the Feb PPV, but that had no bearing on the buy rate, because few people found out he wasn't appearing until the last minute or until bell time, so any buys for the event were garnered with the belief he was wrestling. And while I'm not 'blaming' Shawn for not taking viewers away from WCW, a great draw would have managed to do better than he did.