Hunter's Torn Quad

DDP wasn't that over. He was over to a degree, but him coming out as World Champion was like Ronnie Garvin coming out; he's a nice guy and all, but him being World Champion just didn't look right. And Hogan turned face again at Uncensored in March.

But why was Honky in position to call the shots in the first place? Since when does holding the IC Title make you the captain of your fate? There was no reason for McMahon to let him dictate change in major booking plans, unless he was indeed on the verge of leaving the company or something like that. It's not like Honky could talk his way out of getting squashed by Warrior..... Honky was over enough that he probably had some level of pull. Anyone who is as over as he was has some say in how they're booked. Not to mention that the NWA would have loved to have stolen the WWF's IC Champion, so McMahon had that to think about. And Honky was set to jump to the NWA over this, so that probably helped Vince decide to change plans. Honky had no problems with putting Warrior over, because Vince asked Honky how he wanted to do it, and Honky felt that, as a veteran, that was the way to do it, rather than just dictate.

I believe he had a connection with one of the office staff. He was a long time wrestling fan, though, so he at least had some idea of what to do.

Benoit ECW Promo: On the first disc, access the 'Extras' option. Select the Benoit-Sabu match, and press the LEFT with your remote. This will reveal the full promo Benoit cut in ECW that was discussed in the film (The rubbing hands promo). Benoit's lost tooth: On Disc 2 , from the Main Menu, access the 'Extras' option and navigate to the second page. Now, highlight the 'Back' option and press RIGHT. It should highlight the "little tooth" in the bottom right corner. Press ENTER to select it reveal a short clip explaining how Chris lost his front tooth. Those are two of them. Not sure if there are more.

Are we giving answers too ?

Add in Fakertaker as well.

JBL has improved on the mic, but he's still not in DiBiase's league.

Hogan's 'last match' can be a great draw for a PPV, which is exactly why any match that could be his last, and with Hogan's physical condition his next match could be his last, should be hyped up ahead of time. Hogan might have only one match left in him, so you may as well get some money out of it.

As long as Hogan is kept as a midcard attraction, he won't put off many, if any, fans. People weren't sick of Hogan, as much as they were sick of him being in the main event, so having him be a novelty won't put anyone off. As for surprising people, I'd rather do something with a guy that can draw money in a situation that can actually draw. Save the surprises for stuff that wouldn't draw much if it was advertised.

It's not like it can get much more second rate.

I don't think any kind of short Hogan match is ripping anyone off. At this point, you'd have to be an idiot to expect a long Hogan match. Besides, when Hogan returns, the people who want to see him want a basic Hogan match, and they won't care that it's five minutes or five seconds, as long as Hogan Hulks Up and gets the pin with his legdrop.

It had something to do with him turning on Nash, which built up to their match at Slamboree(?). As for him turning back face, I think it may have been something to do with Kimberly. The face turn came at a time when Russo was booking, so there were a million things happening every second, so it's hard to keep track.

People are more likely to watch Hogan's first match back if it's live, rather than on a replay. Watching it live creates a buzz that you can't get with a replay. Hogan isn't a regular draw anymore, but a special return match with the proper hype will draw some significant buys. Is it really worth sacrificing the money that could pull in just to get people to think that anything can happen ?

Not to mention DiBiase had a tremendous house show program with Savage, that did great business, and saw great matches.

HTM's refusal to drop the IC Belt had nothing to do with any contract negotiations. HTM didn't like the way the title change was presented to him, and refused to do the job. And while DiBiase is not an official WWF Champion, I believe he was announced as champion at a house show the day after the Twin Referee angle. He came out with the belt, and the on-screen graphic declared him WWF Champion. I could have sworn I remember reading that Honky Tonk Man either working without a contract, or really close to the end of his contract, and was threatening to run off to NWA with the belt. I'm not sure of his exact contract situation, but he was in a position such that he was in the process of coming to terms with the NWA. However, the IC Title situation was the cause of that, not the consequence.

You know, this would actually be pretty entertaining. If they do the match it should go down like this. They can't lose. They would lose. Hogan's return has ONE strong buy rate jump in it, and that's the first match back. Blow that on an unadvertised match, and you're giving away PPV revenue.

HTM's refusal to drop the IC Belt had nothing to do with any contract negotiations. HTM didn't like the way the title change was presented to him, and refused to do the job. And while DiBiase is not an official WWF Champion, I believe he was announced as champion at a house show the day after the Twin Referee angle. He came out with the belt, and the on-screen graphic declared him WWF Champion.

Hunter could have 12 straight DUD PPV matches, and he wouldn't get the blame for it. Hunter isn't going anywhere. He's one cancer you have to work around.

Could you elaborate on why you think Michaels is a better draw than Jericho, and try and explain the logic in him going over ? As for my opinion being influenced by my 'love' of Jericho, not even close. I'm a fan of both men; I just happen to think that the time of one of them to headline had, and has, long since passed.

There was one in ECW at Natural Born Killaz in 1996, with Pitbull #2 and Sandman beating Raven and Shane Douglas. A pretty good brawl that was.

Stuff that doesn't matter. I'm taking your advice, and just relaxing. Yuck this up, laughing boy.

Actually, the main problem with this thread is people who are unable or, like you, unwilling to see that their favorite winning was wrong for business. And of course you won't change your opinion, because that would involve you having to admit that Michaels winning, while great for sentimentality, was bad for business, for all the reasons that have been explained. The only reason for Michaels to win was purely for a feel-good ending to the feud, when the best thing for business was Jericho winning, and leaving Michaels to get his win at a Raw, or even building it up for a 'B' level Raw PPV where it could even have been used to draw some buys. Jericho winning being the best thing for business is obvious to anyone with a clue, which seems to be why such a fact is beyond you. As for who thought Jericho would be one of, if not the biggest star by 2005, that would be people who are in favor of change and progression, which sees new top stars made, and guys whose time has a main eventer has passed, like Shawn, to do what is best for business and step aside, to let someone new draw money. This post made me laugh for all the wrong reasons! Repeatedly! Do you have any other hobbies? Do you have anything relevant to add to this thread ?

Don't expect anything over 5 minutes if Hogan does wrestle. His knees and hips are in terrible shape; even worse than when he was around in 2003.

I'd be willing to bet good coin that Vince is on steroids or something, because with the insane schedule he keeps, you can't be 54 or so and have the body he does without some kind of chemical aid. Warlord, Hogan and Warrior didn't tear anything because their style saw the other guy do most of the work; they usually stood there and let the other guy bounce off of them. And when they did move, it was almost never running; even Warrior only ever ran hard when he was coming to the ring, which itself, if you noticed, seemed to involve him almost speed marching really, which doesn't put so much pressure on the part of the quad that can tear. DBS probably didn't tear anything because most of his mass was on his upper body, with his legs not being too bulked up. If his legs had been as oversized as his torso, then he'd have torn something for sure. Benoit isn't juiced to anywhere the degree the others are. Because he isn't a 6ft6 300lbs lumbering lummox, he doesn't have to put on a great deal of mass, so the risk of muscle tears isn't that big.

Would Hogan lose to Hassan ? Yes Would Hogan put over Hassan ? No