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The fan in question, who was a security guard for the event that this incident happened at, was a bit of a dick. Cornette was part of a 3-on-2 match, with him, Jimmy Del Ray and Bruiser Bedlam against The Bruise Brothers. Cornette was hiding behind a black security guard, daring one of the BB's to come and get him. The guard played along, but the other guard, who was called Marcus, and was on the opposite side of the ring, walked all the way around, and came up to Cornette and told him to, "Let the brother go". Cornette told him to get lost. At this point, Jimmy Del Ray comes across, thinking that something may happen, and gently pushes Marcus away from Cornette. Anyway, in short order, a melee ensues, which sees Marcus try to go for Del Ray or someone, and the match has totally broken down. Brian Matthews, the ring announcer comes over and asks Cornette what he should do. Cornette replies, "Get the nigger out of here, that's what I want you do." (At the SMW BBQ the following year, Jim would explain that he called Marcus a nigger because he wanted to piss him off over ruining the match). Marcus tries to go for Cornette, more bedlam ensues, and Marcus is taken away to his dorm room. A short while later, during the battle royal main event, Marcus returns with some of his friends and a knife (to carve apples(!)), and they place themselves right by the heel locker room. When Del Ray gets eliminated, he has words with Marcus as he walks to the back, which cause Marcus and co to jump down from the bleachers and make to go to the back. The Bruise Brothers saw this, and they went to stop Marcus and co from attacking Del Ray, and one final brawl erupted, which led to the SMW crew being escorted to the city limits by the police, and advised not to return.
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Now all we need is to find out who the guy involved is.
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The article didn't give the whole story of what happened when Cornette called the fan a nigger, and it definitely did not stem from any racist views that Cornette may or may not have held at that time.
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I wasn't joking, btw.
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Which part ?
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Amway Salesman.
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Except that Taker has proven that he can still go. The man hasn't had a terrible match since early '02. I will agree with the "putting over new talent" thing, though. I guess you've not seen a lot of his matches since 2002.
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How close is the WWE close to tanking?
Hunter's Torn Quad replied to Epic Reine's topic in The WWE Folder
I'm not talking about buyrates, I'm talking about stupid booking habits that ended up being a factor in the death of the company. I know that WCW was more popular for a period of time, but that doesn't take away from the fact that many of their decisions were just atrocious. If WWE booked a NON-TITLE match for the main event of WrestleMania, when one of the men in the match was World or WWE Champion (not talking about main events where neither man was champ), fans would shit all over it in droves, and you know it. But somehow, WCW rode that wave of mediocrity and shittiness for a couple of years before fans realized it sucked. If the booking of WCW leading up to Starrcade '96 was so bad, it would not have drawn the numbers it did. Regardless of whether you liked the direction of WCW of that time, it cannot be denied that it was what the majority of fans wanted, because they paid for the PPV, and WCW got almost twice as many fans to pay for Starrcade '96 than the WWF got to pay for Survivor Series the month before. And yet it was WCW who drew a huge number for the PPV it was held on. It doesn't matter if you thought the booking sucked or not. The fact is the PPV drew a huge number for WCW, and more people paid for that PPV than did WM XIII a few months later. -
How close is the WWE close to tanking?
Hunter's Torn Quad replied to Epic Reine's topic in The WWE Folder
Using Starrcade '96 as an example of how bad WCW was might not be the wisest idea, seeing as how it almost doubled the buy rate of Survivor Series the month before. -
How close is the WWE close to tanking?
Hunter's Torn Quad replied to Epic Reine's topic in The WWE Folder
It's possible enough that it's being talked about as something that could happen. Vince's pride about being seen as weak got him into this mess, and it'll be the same thing that determines if he'll go to WM. -
It's one thing if they were too scared to try and stop the beating, but they didn't even help the guy up, or check on him or anything. That goes beyond being a simple coward.
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How close is the WWE close to tanking?
Hunter's Torn Quad replied to Epic Reine's topic in The WWE Folder
Don't think that Vince hasn't thought of the chance, however small it is, of WWE maybe losing TV down the line. If he can get 24/7 off the ground with enough coverage, he'll have a fallback position if something freaky does happen that seems him lose TV. -
How close is the WWE close to tanking?
Hunter's Torn Quad replied to Epic Reine's topic in The WWE Folder
There's no way they'd lose Raw and Smackdown. The ratings are just too good. Even if they drop below 3.0, a company will still want them because that's still a top 10 cable rating. People said there was no way WCW would lose Nitro either. It can happen, if Vince or Kevin Dunn goes that little bit too far with some crazy angle. And regardless of what ratings Raw or SD get, if something insane happens that sees WWE image drop, it won't matter what ratings they get. -
How close is the WWE close to tanking?
Hunter's Torn Quad replied to Epic Reine's topic in The WWE Folder
Not in terms of money, maybe, but if a main event guy is seen by the mainstream has being in a terrible movie, it reduces that guys stock, and WWE's stock by proxy. Each failed venture takes away some of what little value mainstream press and people give to WWE. -
How close is the WWE close to tanking?
Hunter's Torn Quad replied to Epic Reine's topic in The WWE Folder
If something freaky happens that sees Raw or Smackdown taken off TV, that could theoretically shut them down, because they'd have no major vehicle to push anything. Of course, they'd probably be able to get on another station, but that could depend on the freaky occurance that saw them lose Raw or Smackdown in the first place. -
Lists of what ? His matches ? Drugs he took ?
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How close is the WWE close to tanking?
Hunter's Torn Quad replied to Epic Reine's topic in The WWE Folder
Vince not being there means he won't have the same hands on approach that he likes, and that means things being done more to the liking of the people in charge who are actually there, and that means Stephanie and Hunter. It also means nobody can go up to Vince and make last minute suggestions, or attempt to sway him into going against anything Stephanie and Hunter want to happen. Don't make any mistake about it. Vince not being there in person affects how things happen, and what gets decided. -
How close is the WWE close to tanking?
Hunter's Torn Quad replied to Epic Reine's topic in The WWE Folder
If you want to know what things would be like with Vince not around, pay attention for the next 4-6 months, at least, because that's how long Vince is stuck in a wheelchair for, thanks to his tremendous ego. And yes, this does mean he might not be at WM XXI, so think about that one for a second. As for Hunter and Stephanie running things, while Hunter has a great wrestling mind, as far as the business side of things goes, he hasn't proven he knows anything on that front. As for Stephanie, well, the less said about that the better. -
Or how he rips into Bischoff, and tells of the time he stuck a booger on his windshield.
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From Meltzer at WC, about when Russo got power: "It was the week after an early 1997 Raw that had Foley vs. Sid, which did a horrible rating. May have been the show with Owen vs. Davey having the great match in Germany (week after) but I'm not sure. I just remember Sid vs. Foley did an incredibly bad rating. Nitro tripled it, and Vince realized his direction was really wrong."
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Ultimate Fighter on Monday night did set the expected record for the show, doing a 2.0 rating, up 35% from the show's average, and getting 2.2 million viewers. Credit - WO.com
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The storyline was that Cornette wanted to bring back wrestling to the WWF. It was presented to Cornette under the guise of something to placate him, but was in fact the brainfart of Super Booker Vince Russo, who wanted to 'prove' that wrestling was old news.
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That got a 2.2.
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It wasn't through a car, just on top of it.
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Yeah, the LMS was in July 2000, but that doesn't stop the NM 2001 match being the last chance for them to pull the trigger on Jericho being taken seriously as top guy, nor the fact that the finish was beyond horrible.