Hunter's Torn Quad

Both went through a period where they seemed to get injured every other week. Both went through some 'growth spurts'. Both are overrated by their biggest fans. So who's the better of the two? Triple H is better, but he's also the most overrated of the two in terms of how he's seen by his biggest fans.

Both went through a period where they seemed to get injured every other week. Both went through some 'growth spurts'. Both are overrated by their biggest fans.

Credit - WO.com Look for JBL to lose the WWE Title without doing a job, and I guess they've given up on CCC already, seeing as it looks like it was a clean job.

They expanded too fast too soon. Instead of expanding slowly, state by state, they tried to move too far afield. They paid for tv timeslots they really shouldn't have, because they felt they had to take the offer while it was on the table.

The Blondes were split up long before Hogan arrived. I was talking about the Flair feud. Trust me, I know all about the Blondes. I've been a mark since age 12. At what point was Flair grooming Austin for this feud ?

The Blondes were split up long before Hogan arrived.

Nobody is/was contracted to have a title reign. Vince might promise someone a reign, but he'd never put it in their contract.

He can only respond to the questions he's asked. As much as we'd like to move on from certain incidents, and I'm sure Bret would rather leave them alone too, it's still what the people he gets interviewed by want to ask him about.

Hunter wasn't as close to jumping as whoever said that. Given his spots in the WWF at the time, and the nature of WCW, he would have had to have been an idiot to jump, regardless of how much he was getting offered. It would have led to Flair making Sanders look good en route to doing a job. Then Sanders would have been put in the ring with a non-magician, and he'd have been exposed as sub-Average Mike Sanders. Some fucking idiot thought the most uncoordinated wrestler of all time would be a good Horseman. Probably Bischoff, as he seemed to have a hard on for Mongo. Roma was a last minute replacement for Tully Blanchard, so they probably had few options. Plus, he was cheap. Yep. He was on a $100,000 per year deal A million sounds right. Dustin Rhodes's Seven gimmick was shelved after one appearance. It was Brian Adams who was the first Demon. It got changed because the gimmick was a Bischoff idea, and they pulled the gimmick at first. Then they realised they were contractually obliged to put The Demon in main events, so they gave it to Torborg, and put him in undercard matches that were billed as 'Special Main Events'. Where he would invariably job.

If you look at the current Tough Enoug kids I would agree with that statement. But the guys in OVW on developmental deals put that theory down the toilet. Scherer needs for some of the crap he puts out... However, WWE tends to bring up the guys who aren't ready, based on their size and/or look.

That one got asked a few pages back.

It got beyond absurd watching WCW try to find as many ways as possible to plug Surge. When they had the cameras on the announce table, they sometimes practically shoved the stuff through the camera. Are there any questions that have not yet been asked ?

Disco Inferno. The guy has anti-charisma.

Guilty As Charged '99: Axl Rotten and Balls Mahoney v Tracy Smothers and James Maritato v Amish Roadkill and Danny Doring: 1/2* Yoshihiro Tajiri v Super Crazy: ***1/2 Sid v John Kronus: 1/4* The Dudley Boy’s v New Jack and Spike Dudley: -* Rob Van Dam v Lance Storm: *** Justin Credible v Tommy Dreamer: **1/2 Taz v Shane Douglas: *** Living Dangerously ’99: Super Crazy v Yoshihiro Tajiri: **1/2 Balls Mahoney v Steve Corino: 1/4* Little Guido v Anitfaz del Norte: *1/4 Rob Van Dam v Jerry Lynn: ***1/2 New Jack v Mr Mustafa: 1/4* Sid and Spike Dudley v The Dudley’s: * Tommy Dreamer and Shane Douglas v Lance Storm and Justin Credible: * Taz v Sabu: ***1/2 Hardcore Heaven ’99: Taz v Chris Candido: 1/4* The Dudley’s v Spike Dudley and Balls Mahoney: **3/4 Super Crazy v Taka Michinoku: **3/4 Yoshihiro Tajiri v Little Guido: **3/4 Lance Storm v Tommy Dreamer: *** Rob Van Dam v Jerry Lynn: ****1/4 Sid v Justin Credible: -* Taz v Bubba Ray Dudley: *3/4 Heatwave ’99: Chris Chetti and Nova v Danny Doring and Amish Roadkill: ** Jazz v Jason: 3 /4* Super Crazy v Little Guido: *** Balls Mahoney and Spike Dudley v The Dudley’s: * Taz v Tajiri: **1/4 Rob Van Dam and Jerry Lynn v Lance Storm and Justin Credible: ***3/4 Anarchy Rulz: Lance Storm v Jerry Lynn: ***1/4 Jazz v Simon Diamond: DUD Nova and Chris Chetti v Simon Diamond and Tony DeVito: -* Yoshihiro Tajiri v Super Crazy v Little Guido: ***1/2 Justin Credible v Sabu: ***1/2 Mike Awesome v Masato Tanaka v Taz: ***3/4 Tommy Dreamer and Raven v Steve Corino and Jack Victory: DUD Rob Van Dam v Balls Mahoney: ** November To Remember ’99: Spike Dudley v Simon Diamond: 1/2* Little Guido v Nova: *1/4 Jerry Lynn v Yoshihiro Tajiri v Super Crazy: ***1/2 The Baldies v New Jack, Axl Rotten and Balls Mahoney: * Sabu v Chris Candido: *** Mike Awesome v Masato Tanaka: ****1/4 Rob Van Dam v Taz: **1/4 Rhino, Justin Credible and Lance Storm v Sandman, Raven and Tommy Dreamer: *1/4 Guilty As Charged 2000: CW Anderson v Mikey Whipwreck: *1/4 Simon Diamond, Danny Doring and Roadkill v Jazz, Nova and Kid Kash: 3/4* Yoshihiro Tajiri and Super Crazy v Jerry Lynn and Little Guido: ***1/4 Angle v New Jack: *1/4 Rob Van Dam v Sabu: **1/2 Justin Credible and Lance Storm v Raven and Tommy Dreamer: *** Mike Awesome v Spike Dudley: ***1/2 Living Dangerously 2000: Dusty Rhodes v Steve Corino: 1 2* CW Anderson and Bill Whiles v Danny Doring and Roadkill: *1/2 Mike Awesome v Kid Kash: *** Nova and Chris Chetti v Gedo and Jado: 3/4* Super Crazy v Little Guido: *** Balls Mahoney v Kintaro Kanemura: DUD Lance Storm and Justin Credible v Raven and Mike Awesome v Masato Tanaka and Tommy Dreamer: ** Super Crazy v Rhino: *3/4 Hardcore Heaven 2000: Masato Tanaka v Balls Mahoney: *** Little Guido v Simon Diamond v Mikey Whipwreck: ** Kid Kash v CW Anderson: *** Chris Chetti and Nova v Angel and Tony DeVito v Danny Doring and Roadkill: * Yoshihiro Tajiri v Steve Corino: ***1/4 Rhino v Sandman: *** Jerry Lynn v Rob Van Dam: ***1/2 Justin Credible v Lance Storm: **1/2 Heatwave 2000: Sal E Graziano v Balls Mahoney: DUD Danny Doring, Roadkill and Kid Kash v Simon Diamond, Swinger and CW Anderson: ***1/4 Jerry Lynn v Steve Corino: ***1/4 Chris Chetti and Nova v The Baldies: **1/4 Yoshihiro Tajiri v Mikey Whipwreck v Psychosis v Guido: ***1/2 Rhino v Sandman: **1/2 Rob Van Dam v Scotty Anton: *** Justin Credible v Lance Storm: **1/2 Anarchy Rulz 2000: Danny Doring and Roadkill v Christian York and Joey Matthews: *1/2 Kid Kash v EZ Money: ***1/2 Joel Gertner v Cyrus: DUD The Baldies v Balls Mahoney and Chilly Willy: 3/4* Steve Corino v CW Anderson: ** The FBI v Mikey Whipwreck and Yoshihiro Tajiri: **3/4 Rhino v Rob Van Dam: ***1/4 Jerry Lynn v Justin Credible: ***1/2 November To Remember 2000: Simon Diamond and Swinger v Christian York and Joey Matthews: *3/4 Kid Kash v CW Anderson: ***1/4 Danny Doring, Roadkill and Spike Dudley v EZ Money, Julio Dinero and Chris Hamrick: **1/2 Nova v Chris Chetti: **1/2 Balls Mahoney and Chilly Willy v Da Baldies: **1/4 Rhino v New Jack: 3/4* The FBI v Yoshihiro Tajiri and Mikey Whipwreck/Super Crazy: **3/4 Steve Corino v Jerry Lynn v Justin Credible v Sandman: **1/2 Massacre On 34th Street: Christian York and Joey Matthews v Simon Diamond and Swinger: *3/4 EZ Money v Balls Mahoney: **1/4 Nova v Julio Dinero: ** Danny Doring and Roadkill v The FBI: **3/4 CW Anderson v Tommy Dreamer: **3/4 Rhino v Spike Dudley: **3/4 Mikey Whipwreck and Yoshihiro Tajiri v Super Crazy and Kid Kash: ***3/4 Steve Corino v Justin Credible v Jerry Lynn: ***1/4 Guilty As Charged 2001: Cyrus and Jerry Lynn v Christian York and Joey Matthews: DUD Danny Doring and Roadkill v EZ Money and Julio Dinero: *1/4 Nova v Chris Hamrick: *1/2 Tommy Dreamer v CW Anderson: ***1/4 Mikey Whipwreck and Yoshihiro Tajiri v The FBI v Super Crazy and Kid Kash: *** Simon Diamond and Swinger v Balls Mahoney and Chilly Willy: n/a Sandman v Steve Corino and Justin Credible: 3/4* Rhino v Sandman: DUD Rob Van Dam v Jerry Lynn: ***1/4

This is great stuff. Dangerously and co are burying WWE, and I don't know that anyone there will realise it.

I'd wager ECW's guys still made more. Jarrett paid peanuts.

Strange how TNA got news of VR's buy rate so quickly, and yet when they first started up, they claimed it would be a year before they got any solid information about the buy rates.

Nothing specific HTQ. I just found his listings ***+ matches of WCW/WWE/WWF from the 90's until today and I was just looking for the same type thing for ECW. I wasn't an observer guy back during my ECW lovin days.......so I didn't realize he didn't cover that much. I would take the ECW PPV star ratings though if anyone can find them....... Barely Legal: The Eliminators v The Dudley’s: **3/4 Rob Van Dam v Lance Storm: **1/2 Great Sasuke, Gran Hamada and Masato Yakushuji v Men’s Teoh, Dick Togo and Taka Michinoku: **** Shane Douglas v Pitbull 2: 3/4* Taz v Sabu: ***1/4 Terry Funk v Stevie Richards v Sandman: **** Terry Funk v Raven: ***1/4 Hardcore Heaven ’97: Taz v Chris Candido: **1/2 Bam Bam Bigelow v Spike Dudley: **1/4 Rob Van Dam v Al Snow: **3/4 The Dudley’s v PG-13: ** Tommy Dreamer v Jerry Lawler: 1/2* Shane Douglas v Sabu v Terry Funk: ***1/2 November To Remember ’97: Chris Candido and Lance Storm v Tommy Rogers and Jerry Lynn: **3/4 Mikey Whipwreck v Justin Credible: *3/4 Taz v Pitbull 2: 1/2* Tracy Smothers and Little Guido v The Dudley’s v Axl Rotten and Balls Mahoney v The Gangstanators: *1/2 Tommy Dreamer v Rob Van Dam: **3/4 Sabu v Sandman: -***1/2 Shane Douglas v Bam Bam Bigelow: *3/4 Living Dangerously: Jerry Lynn and Chris Chetti v Tracy Smothers and Little Guido: *1/2 Masato Tanaka v Doug Furnas: -* Rob Van Dam v Too Cold Scorpio: *1/2 New Jack and Spike Dudley v The Dudley’s v Axl Rotten and Balls Mahoney: ***1/4 Tommy Dreamer v Justin Credible: ** Bam Bam Bigelow v Taz: **1/4 Sabu v Sandman: **3/4 Al Snow and Lance Storm v Shane Douglas and Chris Candido: 1/4* Wrestlepalooza ’98: Blue Meanie and Super Nova v Tracy Smothers and Little Guido: 1/2* Justin Credible v Mikey Whipwreck: ** Chris Candido and Lance Storm v Axl Rotten and Balls Mahoney: 1/2* Bam Bam Bigelow v New Jack: DUD Tommy Dreamer and Sandman v The Dudley’s: -* Rob Van Dam v Sabu: *1/4 Shane Douglas v Al Snow: *1/4 Hardcore Heaven ’98: Jerry Lynn v Justin Credible: ***1/4 Chris Candido v Lance Storm: ***1/4 Masato Tanaka v Mike Awesome: **** Sabu and Rob Van Dam v Jinsei Shinzaki and Hayabusa: ** Taz v Bam Bam Bigelow: ***3/4 Tommy Dreamer, Sandman and Spike Dudley v The Dudley’s and Big Dick Dudley: **1/4 November To Remember ’98: Blue Meanie and Super Nova v Danny Doring and Amish Roadkill: DUD Tommy Rogers v Tracy Smothers: *1/4 Lance Storm v Jerry Lynn: **3/4 Masato Tanaka and Balls Mahoney v The Dudley’s: *3/4 Jake Roberts and Tommy Dreamer v Justin Credible and Jack Victory: 1/4* Sabu, Rob Van Dam and Taz v Shane Douglas, Bam Bam Bigelow and Chris Candido: 1/2* Those are from 1997 and 1998. I'll post 1999-2001 later.

Agreed. Maven got buried six-feet under, and he's dead now. Nothing kills off a babyface like not being able to get the win even when he has two top guys actively helping him out over and over again. Watch for the next three Raw's to be the same as this one. Maven sucks. Who cares if he was buried? It made for a good Raw main event. You really don't have a clue do you ? It makes no sense at all to bury a babyface that the crowd are actually responding to in some fashion.

It's probably not the best After pic, but Douglas face has become more angular and hard over the years. Hunter's weight gain began in early 1998, and it peaked in early 1999. He put on at least 30 pounds of solid muscle. He looks totally different And The Rock lost weight because he trimmed down due to his acting gigs.

I was thinking that too. I kept expecting some sort of macho/homoerotic kiss of some kind. And Snitsky talked about seeing Heidenrape later, but I don't think they mentioned it again.

Before: After:

Buy rates with him in the main event say otherwise. He isn't drawing noticebly worse than HHH is. I believe Taboo Tuesday got a lower buyrate than No Mercy, did it not? No Mercy got a 0.03 bigger buy rate: 0.44 versus 0.475. To be fair to JBL, nobody is over right now. Buy rates are down, house show attendance is terrible. Business is down across the board. The money situation is so bad that management are offering advances on pay.

Buy rates with him in the main event say otherwise.

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