Hunter's Torn Quad

And the reason you, and everybody else with this problem, never PM'd me about it, is...? If people have a complaint about this forum, a PM can work wonders about that. If they get sent.

Fine, have your Sabu thread back if it'll stop you bitching.

There are people in WWE who would deserve a thread if they got fired. Sabu is not one of them. Putting every single comment is this stupid thread has ruined all discussion in the WWE folder. Mega-threads suck. This thread is for comments that are minor enough to not warrant a thread devoted exclusively to discussion about it. Sabu being fired is one such comment, because Sabu has no real value to WWE. Now, if John Cena gets fired, I can guarantee you won't see that moved here, because that would actually warrant a thread. People bitched when trivial newsbits cluttered the forum. Trivial newsbits get their own thread, and still people bitch.

I can see Sandman being kept around as a crowd warming act, much like the Godfather was.

There are people in WWE who would deserve a thread if they got fired. Sabu is not one of them.

I know it's the typical finish, but seeing Batista get beaten over Benoit is just...weird. Benoit's been put in the role to carry the workload and drop the fall for so long, that it's strange seeing him not lose when he normally would. I don't mean to sound like a prick, but your looking to deeply into who got the pinned in that match. I asked Meltzer about the house show booking, and if there was anything in it:

TNA cut away from everything far too soon in a mad rush to cram as much in as possible. After the Texas Death match, which was really good, they focused on Harris for about fifteen seconds before cutting to that botched Sting promo. No replays of the big spots from the match, no post-match deal with Harris getting to his feet and standing over Storm. Nothing. They just rushed into the next segment before any of it could sink in. It's why nothing gets over as well it can. Actually you are wrong - they recapped the highlights from that deathmatch and commented significantly on it AFTER the Sting promo. They certainly put the match over, more than most of the other bouts, with a retrospect on it not immediately after the match, but a few minutes afterwards. I take the Angle deal at the end with them cutting away so quickly was just to make people tune in on Thursday to check the show out, like of like a "WTF just happened, better watch to find out" type idea. For what its worth, this was TNA's best ppv IMO since lord knows when. Pretty much every match except VKM shit was at least *** and a few really were something, such as the Deathmatch, X division title match as well. Wouldn't it have been a good idea to recap the match right after the match, like it's normally done, instead of letting the enthusiasm and momentum fade away? Given TNA's penchant for rushing from one thing to the next as soon as possible, I think it more likely it was the usual attempt to get as much stuff in as they could instead of letting things sink in. I'd agree that it was TNA's strongest PPV in quite some time.

He's good friends with Russo, so he's got an in there.

The people who checked out the thread just below this one do. I'll even link you: TNA title belts picture thread

TNA cut away from everything far too soon in a mad rush to cram as much in as possible. After the Texas Death match, which was really good, they focused on Harris for about fifteen seconds before cutting to that botched Sting promo. No replays of the big spots from the match, no post-match deal with Harris getting to his feet and standing over Storm. Nothing. They just rushed into the next segment before any of it could sink in. It's why nothing gets over as well it can.

It needs to be Joe, without question. He was doing fine for the most part until they went to the three man team of Jarrett/Russo/Mantel. Since then, Joe's turned into just another guy who means maybe a tenth of what he did at his peak. Angle was only special for about a month before being turned into just another guy on the roster.

The usual TNA PPV, with good to great wrestling hampered by weak booking and bad production. I'll give Jarrett credit for losing to Roode when he could have easily won instead, though it wasn't like Roode was really put over here. I did like that Eric Young was finally put in a position to come Jarrett's rescue, given that he was the one Roode and Traci had been abusing for so long. Some of the bigger moments of the PPV, like Harris's big win and Kurt winning the NWA/TNA Title had none of the impact they could have given how they cut away almost the second the match was over. My biggest problem with the finish to the main event is that, like with every main event finish to a TNA PPV, it neither conclusively proved who the better man is nor is it leading to a match where it'll be conclusively proven who the better man is. It's leading to a match, the King of the Mountain match, where the winner will be who can climb the best. Nobody wins an NWA/TNA title match because they're the better man. They win, or lose, because of ref bumps, run-ins, weapons or, in the case of the main event next month, because they can climb the best.

Gabe Sapolsky is on WOL right now.

PPV opens with the X-Division three way. They also have a new mascot, a man in a kangaroo suit called Stomper. Jarrett vs. Roode is next. Daniels vs. Rhino is up next. I'll update this post with results and such.

Unless Jericho is itching to come back or needs the money, I don't see why he should come back at all.

I know it's the typical finish, but seeing Batista get beaten over Benoit is just...weird. Benoit's been put in the role to carry the workload and drop the fall for so long, that it's strange seeing him not lose when he normally would. I don't mean to sound like a prick, but your looking to deeply into who got the pinned in that match. Maybe I am looking too deeply, but usual WWE booking policy for house shows is that the chosen ones don't do jobs. If it only happens once, I can see Batista losing being done as a surprise. But if it happens again, I'd be getting suspicious, because it's not the type of thing WWE does for no reason.

One poster, I think it was cabbageboy, ended up buying Lockdown at the last minute. I think he might have been the only one here who did. I do know that it used to be a half dozen or a dozen people here would buy the PPV, and now it's down to one or two impulse buys and that's it.

Why would they, seeing how the live ECW show follows the tapings? You assume the majority of people would stick around for the ECW show. After watching the 'real stars' for two hours, including a PPV-level main event and major post-match angle involving the World title changing hands, I don't think a lot of the casual WWE fans would stick around for the C team. The usual pattern for tapings where Smackdown is taped first sees a lot of people leave for that very reason, that they've seen the big stars and can go home now.

I would imagine he was pushing for Batista to get the belt again, as Batista looking good makes Hunter look good by virtue of being the guy who 'made him'.

Funnily enough, I think Christian was in the last NWA Title match in TNA that was a singles match with no stips and no ref bumps or interference at all. His match against Monty Brown last March was a regular match and featured a clean finish as well. I think that says it all about what's wrong with TNA.

I know it's the typical finish, but seeing Batista get beaten over Benoit is just...weird. Benoit's been put in the role to carry the workload and drop the fall for so long, that it's strange seeing him not lose when he normally would.

Some curious booking in the main event of last night's WWE house show: Strange that, not only was it MVP and not Edge getting the pin for their team, but that it was Batista who got beaten and not Benoit. Stuff like this usually doesn't happen for no reason, but who knows. F4W

The TV version definitely didn't do justice to the reaction it got live, which is probably in part to the 'sweetening' of the audio; the TV soundtrack didn't match what happened live, because it did get over huge in a positive manner. As for the crowd itself, just watching them on TV, and I rewatched the entire deal specifically to see their reaction, they absolutely were into this in a big way. Very few people were leaving their seats, and almost everyone was standing and reacting in some way, either flipping Edge of or openly clapping. This got over big, no doubt about it. The final rating, which is looking to be in the same 2.6 range Smackdown usually gets, shows what kind of power the internet really has, and it's not what people seem to think it is. This was all over the 'net Tuesday night, and WWE.com were pushing this as hard as they could, but in the end, it made no difference at all.

Full spoilers, at least what happened in front of people, are now up.