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- In the main event of the ECW taping, Bobby Lashley vs Hardcore Holly ended in a no contest after Big Show, Test, Paul Heyman and Heyman’s security interfered, only to be chased off by Sabu, Rob Van Dam and CM Punk. RAW tapings will start shortly.

- Tommy Dreamer beat Daivari via DQ in a short match after The Great Khali interfered and gave Dreamer the low blow into the ringpost. After the match, Khali continued to attack Dreamer.

- Matt Striker cut a promo talking history and hyping up the Elimination Chamber match, which led to a video package to further hype up the match. Our history teacher also incorrectly pronounced Gorbachev. - Backstage, CM Punk cut a great promo putting over the importance of the Elimination Chamber match.

- Backstage, Holly, Big Show and Heyman argue over who to blame for what just happened, with Big Show putting the blame on Heyman. Heyman announces Lashley vs Hardcore Holly for later tonight. - CM Punk beat Mike Knox with the Anaconda Vice in a match that went a little longer than Punk’s previous outings.

No, and it's unlikely he was going to leave in the first place.

Wrestlemag - The ring is set up for an ECW taping, and right now they’re making last minute changes with the lights. The set has changed a little from previous UK tapings, with the TitanTron shaped to look like a Union Jack. - A video package from WrestleMania 22 played, with John Cena being booed out of the building when he was shown. They announced that ECW was being taped tonight as well, and that also got booed. - In a dark match prior to ECW being taped, Carlito beat Doug Williams via pinfall. A short match that went about five minutes, with Carlito winning after hitting Williams with the backcracker. - ECW started with Elijah Burke on commentary alongside Joey Styles. No sign of Tazz. - Paul Heyman and Big Show cut a promo to open the show. Heyman reveals that there will be no Rob Van Dam tonight, and also that Hardcore Holly will be in the Extreme Elimination Chamber match at December to Dismember. Backstage, Bobby Lashley attacks Holly then gives Big Show a spear, before heading to the ring and signing a contract that will see him as the sixth man in the Elimination Chamber match next month. Excellent opening segment that the crowd were hot for. - Backstage, Holly, Big Show and Heyman argue over who to blame for what just happened, with Big Show putting the blame on Heyman. Heyman announces Lashley vs Hardcore Holly for later tonight. - CM Punk beat Mike Knox with the Anaconda Vice in a match that went a little longer than Punk’s previous outings. - Matt Striker cut a promo talking history and hyping up the Elimination Chamber match, which led to a video package to further hype up the match. Our history teacher also incorrectly pronounced Gorbachev. - Backstage, CM Punk cut a great promo putting over the importance of the Elimination Chamber match. - Tommy Dreamer beat Daivari via DQ in a short match after The Great Khali interfered and gave Dreamer the low blow into the ringpost. After the match, Khali continued to attack Dreamer. - In the main event of the ECW taping, Bobby Lashley vs Hardcore Holly ended in a no contest after Big Show, Test, Paul Heyman and Heyman’s security interfered, only to be chased off by Sabu, Rob Van Dam and CM Punk. During the match, Lashley hit Davey Boy Smith’s trademark delayed vertical suplex and running powerslam moves. RVD got a major superstar reaction at the end of the match, and was over far more than Lashley was. - After quickly changing the ring, RAW started with DX coming to the ring to an incredible reaction. They cut a promo and footage aired from last week’s show. The Coach interrupted and said he had issued a bounty on DX for £10,000, to which Triple H called him a cheap bastard. - A four on two handicap match was made, with DX taking on Lance Cade, Trevor Murdoch, Charlie Haas and Viscera. DX won in a fairly long match rather than the squash you might expect, with Triple H giving Charlie Haas the pedigree and picking up the win. - Backstage, The Spirit Squad did a promo with DX that saw all members of the Squad in the background doing the Shawn Stasiak thing by running into a wall while DX were oblivious to what was going on. - Johnny and Kenny from the Spirit Squad beat The Highlanders after Kenny rolled up Robbie for the win. - Chris Masters beat Jerry ‘The King’ Lawler in a Masterlock challenge. - Backstage, Eugene tried to get the bounty on DX, but he ended up running into a wall also. - A highlight video of WWE’s most recent trip to Iraq played for the live crowd, before Todd Grisham interviewed Lita backstage. - Still backstage, Chris Masters tried, and failed, to claim the bounty on DX, ending up hugging a toilet instead. - Todd Grisham has replaced Jerry Lawler on commentary alongside Jim Ross to sell Lawler passing out to Chris Masters’ Masterlock earlier in the show. - John Cena beat Umaga via DQ after Big Show interfered. Fun match which the crowd were totally into, with 50/50 split on who was behind Cena and who was booing him. After the match, Umaga and Big Show both laid Cena out. - DX left the building after claiming the bounty by taking themselves out. Shawn Michaels stole the 10k from Coach. - Jeff Hardy beat Johnny Nitro to become the new Inter-Continental champion after rolling through a moonsault by Nitro and getting the pinfall. After the match, Nitro attacked Hardy and laid him out using a ladder. - Outside the building, DX are shown wanting to use Coach’s money to buy tickets to get back inside. They struggle to get any, so try and buy some from Cryme Time. - Backstage, Carlito is shown reading the Daily Star newspaper and makes reference to Celtic vs Manchester Utd match that is happening in a week or so. Torrie Wilson and two girls from the Daily Star invite him out after the show. - Graphics are shown on the Tron running through the Survivor Series card, then DX are shown coming into the building through the crowd and sitting at ringside. - Mickie James beat Lita in a non-title match. The pre-match stipulation put in place was that Mickie had to wrestle with both of her legs tied together, but DX distracted Lita, allowing Mickie to hit her with a DDT and get the win. - Jeff Hardy vs Johnny Nitro in a Ladder Match for the IC Title was announced for next Monday’s show. - Edge and Randy Orton beat Ric Flair and Roddy Piper to win the Tag Team titles. Piper was taken out early on, leaving Flair alone. Edge and Orton pretty much destroyed him, winning the tag belts after a spear by Edge. After the match DX hit the ring and brawled with Edge and Orton, RAW coming to a close with DX left in the ring as Orton and Edge stood by the top of the ramp.

I enjoyed the Blood Generation vs. Do Fixer six-man a lot. I thought it was tremendous stuff. Sure, from a selling and more traditional standpoint it didn't have the meat that some people want, but it wasn't meant to. It was meant to be a fast-paced, spot-spot-spot style that drove the crowd crazy. And it succeeded in doing that to such a degree that the fans were chanting "please don't stop" as the match was heading to the finish. If the goal of a match is to get over with the crowd, have them popping big for what happens in the ring and popping big for the finish, then the match worked. It did its job. If you like that style, then you're going to love the match more than someone who doesn't like that style. I showed the match to a non-fan friend of mine, who doesn't like wrestling and really can't get into it. They not only loved it and were going crazy for it but wanted to see more of the same.

Silly angles, bad booking and devaluing a title may be fun to watch if presented in an entertaining manner, but it's still silly angles, bad booking and devaluing a title. But you got to win an argument on the internet, so go you.

Yes, but they obviously changed their mind, probably because they need all the help they can get in speading the word about TNA.

The Kurt Angle appearance on WOL now as its own thread.

Despite his inflated ego, Kurt has been a great guest.

What was funny was they were playing the music to signal a commercial break for about five minutes before Dave wrapped the segment up. Kurt sounds like he's been up for weeks. Which might be true.

As it's about TNA, or suposed to be, it's best to talk about it in the Comments That... thread in the TNA forum. I'm listening to it and posting ongoing updates on what Kurt says.

First Hour Angle on WOL now is saying that when he went to Smackdown he was the second choice. Shawn Michaels was the first choice but he turned it down. Angle says he disrespects Shawn for that. He aso said he was sick of being the utility guy and wanted to be 'the' guy. Angle says he was going to win the main event of Wrestlemania XIX until he hurt his neck. Doesn't think Vince ever protected him. Says they spent all week writing for Raw and then the next day would panic over not having anything to do for Smackdown or ECW, and would just say, "Well we'll put Angle in the ring to wrestle and that'll take up 30 minutes." Says he broke his neck against Shawn on the Homecoming Raw (might have the wrong match here) when he landed wrongly on an Angle Slam. Broke his C7 and T1. Says he was getting tested for painkillers every week and passing shortly after this. Said he asked for a month off after dropping the World Title at WM 22, which was agreed to and was then asked to go on tour overseas. Says they kept putting him on the road even when he asked for time off. From what he says, it was along the lines of him being asked "just do this one thing" time after time. Says he was losing weight, wasn't on painkillers even though he was getting tested weekly. Had a cortisone shot in his neck to help, and when he was drug tested they found steroids, the cortisone, and was suspended for a month which angered him. Said that eight others also tested positive but nothing was done about them, and that also upset him. Said he lost $125,000 from being suspended. Was calling Vince and Johnny Ace and was upset with them. Said it was at this point he decided to leave. Was calling UFC and they made him an offer that was good but he turned it down because they wanted to 'own him' and 'nobody was going to own Kurt Angle'. After this he was told he was going to ECW which he wasn't happy with but Vince told him he would be the top guy but then it ended up with Heyman writing Van Dam as the top guy. Vince met with Kurt and he handed Kurt a bunch of papers with a list of all the messages that Kurt had left Vince and Johnny Ace. Said he told Vince he wanted either part-time or he'd quit, Vince refused, and Angle said he quit. Angle shot back with that he had a big money offer from PRIDE, and Vince said "Fine, take it. Go." Said he was Vince's top draw. Commended Cena and Shawn, but said he was the best wrestler and people came to see him wrestle. Second Hour Expects a very physical match with Joe. Says he and Joe have been treating it as a shoot. Says the match won't be pretty but it will be great. Says the eight guys who failed the tests had scripts from a surgeon/doctor , but his was from a pain doctor(?), so theirs was legally ok. Says if you pick the ten greatest matches in WWE history, he'll be part of all ten. Says Joe is tough and that it'll be a challenge to keep up with him. Talked about giving advice in ECW and TNA. Says he was an agent in ECW, and that when he gave advice to someone in ECW they complained to someone about it, saying Kurt had only been in the business for six years when they'd been in it for fourteen. Dixie and Jeff Jarrett told Kurt to teach the TNA wrestlers the things he knows but they don't. Kurt said he studied wrestling tape from the 70s which is why he has more wrestling. Says the WWE wrestlers wouldn't even tie up, and it'd be chop and punch. Says he's in TNA to not just be a wrestler but an agent. He likes advising the wrestlers and doing the agent stuff. Tells wrestlers to do what they do well and stay away from what they don't do well. Says the six-sided ring has less dead time, as there isn't much time from when you throw someone into the ropes and when they bound back. Says it requires more improvisation, and he picked that skill up from Patterson, Ace, Briscoe, etc. Kurt says he is 100%. His arms grew two and half inches, his groin is fine and he's fine. Says the match he tore his groin in against Van Dam was one of RVD's best ever, and the fans gave him a ten minute standing ovation. Kurt told the agents how injured he was and was told he was going to the next ECW house show and he decided there and then to quit. The next time he saw Vince, he pulled his pants down and he was all black and blue from where he was badly injured. Kurt says he has plans to go to Japan and MMA. He's all for it and so is Dixie, but that Dixie wants him healthy for it. They're still working the details out if it. Kurt says he expects to have 1-3 MMA matches. Says the prime-time TNA show is the best TNA show ever. Says the AJ Styles match is awesome and must-see. Says PRIDE offered him three fights at $1m a fight plus $3m in endorsements. Says UFC offered one fight for $10.4 million. Would have been in Season 5 of TUF and in the crowd for future seasons. Says Dixie Carter will sit in the stands and watch the show which he's never seen before out of the owner of the company. Says Dixie won't let anyone wrestler who is injured and they will work around it. Says TNA blows WWE's talent away. They just need a little more guidance, and that nobody knows their names. TNA will get there. Says he can have ***** matches with so many of their wrestlers. Says he can't say the same about WWE wrestlers, about 90% of them. Calls TNA the best kept secret in the world and has wanted to join them for two years. Says TNA has comparable production to WWE, sometimes better. Says Dave Sahadi is the best production guy in the business. Says Dixie had him take three physicals from three different doctorss. Had him drug tested once that knew about ahead of time and then another surprise one. Wants/expects Spike to offer a two-hour slot within three months. Bryan asked Kurt if he is too driven that he'll not be able to ask for time off when he needs it. Kurt says he'll have trouble saying he needs time off and he might even lie/have trouble lying to Dixie about needing time off. Kurt said his goal is the run the show(?) and take it to Vince and tell him he saw what he did right and wrong. Kurt said he's been in the ring in so much pain he's been taking pains up the wazoo. Said he wanted to go to rehab but was told he couldn't and he had to rehab himself through prayer and such. Said he won't do that to himself again. Says if he has minor injuries he'll lie to Dixie and say he's fine but if it's major he'll come clean. Kurt says he is clean but when the time comes he'll leave his boots in the ring and walk away. Says he's not afraid of letting go of the fame. Says he can do other stuff, like running the show. Says Vince was too eager to get on Sci-Fi with more product. Says 65% of WWE talented are worried they're going to get fired and the other 35% are unhappy anyway. Says Vince is reaching too much and with three promotions there is only so much you can do. Said Vince is abusing the talent, and refered to driving 3, 4, 8 and then 3 hours for consecutive shows. Says WWE have spread themselves too thin and TNA are now the best show on TV. Said that Raw was well written, though. Criticised some of the stuff on Raw that you don't want your kids watching and that a lot of the WWE's audience is kids, and that WWE has been irresponsible. Says someone in the Kurt-Angle-Steph triangle didn't want it to continue and that that same person said Kurt shouldn't/couldn't be champion. When someone, maybe Kurt, said what would happen in this person and Kurt had shoot match the persion knocking Kurt put his head down and Vince said Kurt was going to be champion. Says he wants to be the top star in TNA but if someone comes along and can get bigger than Kurt he'll step aside and let them get big because that'll mean he can make more money. A caller got cut off and things broke down. Was asked about the When Harry Met Sally spoof with Christy Hemme and if Kurt would do that sort of thing in TNA. Kurt said he wanted to do comedy. Said Spike is writing up stuff for him to do in both TV and movies. A caller asked about angles Kurt shot down and if the main mentality in TNA is all about beating Vince Dave thinks the mentality is about getting the word out about TNA because so few people know. Kurt came back on and said he'd go back to be accepted into the WWE HoF. Says he wasn't keen on the Booker T-Sharmell angle talking about bestiality. Kurt finishes off by saying he and Samoa Joe will be MOTY.

Two things make that picture even funnier. When TNA pulled their talent from ROH, they claimed it was because of Feinstein and that they couldn't risk being associated with a company that Feinstein could return to. And when that photo got out, Jarrett claimed to have no idea it was Feinstein.

The headache involved in working out a finish to that match would make me not want to do it.

Unless something drastic happens, it isn't taking place.

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A problem with doing Hogan vs. Show is that people are going to want to see Hogan slam Show, and even with Show helping out I don't see Hogan in condition to do it. If he tried to slam Show, all his artificial body parts will break off. Ashley has already posed for Playboy, so it's not like they can even get the buzz of it being the first chance to see her naked.

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He owned WCW and still felt the need to bury it six-feet under when he could have made tons of money with a properly run Invasion angle. A lot of what Vince does makes no sense.

Raw is his favorite son and Smackdown is the bastard child.

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Though there is a market for that sort of thing. IWA-MS usually run there.