Big Ol' Smitty

But prosecuting someone for political genocide would still be prosecuting them based on why they killed.

And what the hell, I'll ask again... Should spraypainting "Yankees Suck!" on a bridge be punished the same as spraypainting "Death to Christians!" on the same bridge? Same crime...

Genocide *is* hate crimes, essentially. Look it up. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=genocide synonyms: race murder, racial extermination The term didn't even exist until after WWII--when Hitler revolutionized the practice. The UN said that what happened in Darfur wasn't genocide, but that the perpetrators should still be punished harshly according to the crimes that they committed.

No, I'm not. As I said, I don't CARE why they killed untold thousands or millions of people. They killed them REGARDLESS. Whether they did it for racial hatred, political hatred, etc is immaterial. They are still dead and the perps should be punished, harshly, for it. -=Mike ...Using your hate crime logic, the US is well within its rights to punish ALL Muslims because they committed such a massive "hate crime"... Er, I thought you were arguing before that genocide charges should be made. Misunderstanding. All Muslims were involved in the 9/11 attacks? OH yeah, and I can CAPITALIZE words AS well as you CAN.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05039/454339.stm http://www.cultureandfamily.org/articledis...goryid=cfreport

You're still punishing the perpetrator for what they were thinking when they conducted the mass killings.

Also, I'm undecided on hate crimes stuff. I do think it is reprehensible to attack someone out of hate for their "group," but I'm not sure if the laws are really necessary. Just to play devil's advocate, though, this site has some decent rebuttals to arguments against hate crimes legislation. http://www.commonplacebook.com/features/hatecrimes2.shtm Should egging a house be punished equally with egging a Jewish household in a pattern so that the yolks spell out "Die Jew!"? They're both just vandalism...

Why is me killing a black guy because he's black worse then me killing a white guy? I didn't say anything about whether I supported the hate crime legislation or not. Please don't put words in my mouth, little guy. I just said that if you are against hate crime legislation then you should, out of consistency, be against genocide treaties. Genocide is the targeted killing of a racial, ethnic, national, or cultural group. I think conservatives (including some on this board) got pissed off at the UN because the Darfur killings weren't labeled "genocide." Well, they weren't genocide. The Janjaweed was killing all sorts of people. It is inconsistent to bemoan hate crimes legislation and then moan (further) over something not being labeled as genocide.

Then I guess you are againt genocide provisions in international law, too?

Fish 1: Hey that guys comin' over tonight. Fish 2: Alright! We're havin' chicken tonight!

Bush on Social Security:

Erm, that's not all he did.

On the topic of police, why is the term Five-0 used? Does it have anything to do with Hawaii Five-0?

I'll throw in the lives of 3 hamsters and a myotonic goat. That's my final offer.

Too bad it will... Wanna bet?

Well why did he go there in the first place? That would be like going to Berkeley and going OMG I'm surrounded by commies... He was a conservative Christian and his parents encouraged him to go there. We were friends as children (we were in Boy Scouts together).

Has Falwell died yet? My poor roommate freshman year had transferred from that guy's hellish college in Virginia.

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Sounds like fatty talk.

A guy who, like me, has blasted the Bush tax cuts.

Haha! From the Publishers Weekly review on the site you linked: Referring to Sowell. Sounds like a certain TSM economist? Just replace angry with arrogant. Sowell not da man. I'll be sure not to read it.

And some people think the radical left is clueless... -=Mike Which is actually a valid complaint. Valid or not, it's irrelevant to the discussion I was engaging in. Stephen Joseph said that: The quote from the MMP site suggests that the MMP's goals go beyond what SJ said.

I'm supposed to take advice from this guy? You said "growth matters," as if what I cited did not factor in growth. The stat that I cited measured "potential for the world’s economies to attain sustained economic growth over the medium and long term." You cited GDP real growth rate, stating that the "size & scope of the economy" don't matter. Based on growth, then, the greatest economies in the world are such places as Chad and the authoritarian hellholes of Turkmenistan & Equatorial Guinea. And you can quit being so condescending. Nobody was rude to you, despite the fact that you are constantly. You act like we should all bow down in reverence before the great wrestling message board "economist."