Big Ol' Smitty

No Iraqis want your STDs or the money you stole from your girlfriend.

Do you know how quickly all of these claims have been pretty thoroughly debunked? -=Mike How quickly? Where and by whom?

Racism. This isn't Bush per se, though. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1342051,00.html

Although I don't agree with INXS, that's a pretty lame way to refute his argument. No, it's a very solid refutation. If we're doing things for oil, explain why prices are so high. Explain why we support Israel over Arab countries that have oil. Explain why we're quite possibly the only country to boycott Iranian oil. -=Mike I don't think our involvement in the Middle East is totally oil-related for the record. Hell, Tom Delay and the rest of the Christian Right probably just want to speed along the apocalypse. However, by securing the flow of Iraqi oil, the US could break the Saudi's and OPEC's hold on the global oil market. The Bush energy policy is pretty oil-friendly.

Although I don't agree with INXS, that's a pretty lame way to refute his argument.

Yeah, I noticed that about it, too. Agreed. He was much more skeptical and didn't seem to buy into the whole neo-con "mideast sandbox" ideology. I guess he eventually came on board, though. His ill-fated UN speech would seem to indicate this, anyway.

Completely ignoring all the modifiers and warnings about stretching conclusions to fit their pre-programmed ideology, our intelligence services actually provided quite good intelligence - the bushies simply did not like what they were hearing, so they chose to ignore and conveniently leave out whole sections. Yellowcake. WMD. Aluminum tubes. Cakewalk w/flowers nonsense. The CIA had it correct.

With several Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Wolfowitz disses thrown in for good measure.

So are we at war with Eastasia or Eurasia right now?

Alas. The voice of reason is gone. Also, Cerebus, from watching the Frontline documentary on Rumsfeld I got the sense that Powell not only disliked the way the war was conducted, but the entire idea of the war.

What are you getting at, DDP?

That's an awful lot of blue in Utah, don't you think?...

Something else needs to be said...

I both like him and ask for his input.

This'll be kinda like the meal thread. List your workout for the day. We can give each other tips and advice, too. I'll start. 11/11-Weights Dumbell Military Press Upright Rows Tricep Kickbacks Skull Krushers Pullups and I walked around my campus a bunch

11/14 4 mi. running on treadmill

Ridge '08. I'm on the bandwagon.

Yeeeeah. Recognize.

Also here.

Fuck that shit Yeah. Bitch ass ho's. I mean FUCK!

Liberals do it more freely.

Exactly. You're no competition for Banders.

Fascinating.