Big Ol' Smitty

Okay, I'm now convinced you're just yanking our chains.

My argument, that I made earlier in the thread, is that we should try to do more to prevent teenage and unwanted pregnancies in the first place. More readily available birth control. Sex education that doesn't just pretend that teenagers don't have sex. Increased and expedited adoption. And, yes, safe and legal abortion. These things would be FAR less costly than the huge government bureaucracy you would create to enforce your no birth policy and incarcerate the offenders, not to mention the cost of subduing and repairing the damages from the riots that would inevitably result (in which I would enthusiastically participate).

Your analogy doesn't work at all. Drinking & driving is not the equivalent of pregnancy. I could have easily gotten a girl pregnant at age 16 if a condom had broken--and, even looking back as a responsible, well adjusted 24 year old, I still wouldn't have wanted the government to step in and put me in prison or cut my johnson off if my high school girlfriend and I had decided to give birth.

Hint: just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they "don't see the big picture". Especially in this case.

Because most reasonable people don't want the government making huge personal decisions for their families or anyone else's families. And this is coming from someone with an MA, wife, and full time job (who, by the way, was raised by a single mother with nothing beyond a high school education). No, but I know it's not up to me or some government bureaucrat to make that decision for her. I didn't ask if he thought that the Govt should make the decision for her. I asked does he think she should have a child. There is a big difference. You clearly think you (or the government) should be able to make other people's decisions for them.

It would be more harmful to Venezuela than to the US.

Because most reasonable people don't want the government making huge personal decisions for their families or anyone else's families. And this is coming from someone with an MA, wife, and full time job (who, by the way, was raised by a single mother with nothing beyond a high school education). No, but I know it's not up to me or some government bureaucrat to make that decision for her.

There's a huge gap between thinking people should be motivated to do something after high school and threatening to sterilize or imprison them. If you want to be lazy after HS and make 6 dollars per hour. Feel fucking free. Just dont have children because the rest of us are going to be paying to take care of them. Wipe the foam from the corners of your mouth, take three deep breaths, then read this: You're a tool.

I got a better ideas lets send ninjas to cut off those stupid sluts ovaries! Thatll teach them bitches a lesson!

Chavez has threatened to do that a buncha times. He's full of shit, he needs that oil money to keep his quasi-dictatorship afloat.

There's a huge gap between thinking people should be motivated to do something after high school and threatening to sterilize or imprison them. I agree..but there should be a reasonable medium so that things can change. I'm not totally opposed to mandatory national service (choice between military, Peace Corps, Americorps, etc.) after high school.

There's a huge gap between thinking people should be motivated to do something after high school and threatening to sterilize or imprison them.

Yes I can read. Neither of my parents fulfilled those criteria. Well, they should have gone to a trade school or Military. People bitch all the time about the taxes that we have to pay but we keep on forgetting about the billion and one free loaders who leech off of everybody else. Do you know what percentage of the federal budget goes to welfare programs like AFDC & WIC? Edit: Al beat me to the punch here.

You should run for office, NYankees. With ideas like this one, and your obvious charisma, you'd be a shoe-in!

Mine didn't either and I turned out pretty fucking great.

Too many stupid, irresponsible women are popping out multiple babies with multiple un-supportive fathers..what do you suggest be done about that? How about increased availability of birth control and the morning after pill, ending abstinence only sex ed, adoption, & even the occasional shmashmortion. Definitely not creating a government eugenics program, that's for sure.

So no stay at home moms? I think this has the potential to go into the food man/$10 DVD player echelon of threads.

Life in jail for having a kid. That's not Orwellian at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/12/us/polit...amp;oref=slogin

SNOW DAY TOMORROW WOOHOO NO WORK!

No, I don't see, Marv. Tell me more!

I guess this segment from Chapelle's Show made me think parsnips were a yuppy food. http://www.lemonzoo.com/funny_videos/15765...ng_Spouses.html

Oh, I hadn't checked out the thread again. Nice post, Inc.

I was just thinking the same thing, Floyd.