Carnival

I don't agree that Jarrett isn't drawing. I agree that TNA isn't drawing. Again blindly blame that on Jarrett. Then JBL is only person to blame for smackdown sucking. Just like i don't buy the Jarrett turned Monty so he wouldn't have to job bullshit. Thats just NOT true. It's insane to think that could be true. I blame Raven for this. Jarrett didn't do anything to him. Raven keeps wanting to work these programs with random low-mid-carders. And i'm sure if RAven was oppossed to this he would quit TNA. You may not remember, Jarrett cleanly jobbed to Booker T for his first World Title. I agree those names besides Booker, were guys who gave Jarrett the rub. Someone mentioned Austin and Rock not hurting after Trips beat em. Well those were guys who gave Trips the rub. So I mentioned guys that gave jarrett the rub to make things fair. And yes, Scott and Jeff did have matches. Jeff Jarrett in the WWF as a mid-card talent was one of the most over heels in the company. He should have been elevated to the ME. Jeff should be in JBL's spot.

obviously there is a happy medium.

ironic isn't it. And it appears I actually DO know what i'm talking about in this case.

it's not. he says fricking. bottom line. some people just hate to be wrong i guess. You miss heard him, big deal, just admit it.

Follow suit exactly

and no, he didn't. There was no R in there. might i suggest watching it again. Like spike TV would allow a commercial on their network that says "fuck" in it.

To be any sort of a draw nowdays in the US, you must be able to speak. I'm not saying Abyss could NEVER EVER be a world champ if they completely changed him. But if his gimmick doesn't change he will never be a world champ. read the first pages of this thread. i don't know who said it. but they are just as credible as everyone who says JJ has the final word. you're right. something doesn't add up. I don't think either parties are right, i think it's a balance between the two. Casual fans and smarks alike would shit their pants if Jericho won the world title in a month or two. If Raven won the title in that time, same thing. But i think it would be easier for Raven due to the fact things change so fast in TNA. I mean all of a sudden Chris Harris was fighting for world titles and people loved. Where did that come from??? But other TNA fans ate it up. It's easier to climb the ladder in TNA than in WWE. And thats thanks to Jarrett not in spite of him. Cuz the big named old dudes are TNA's only hope of drawing the casual WCW fans who stopped watching wrestling when Vince took over. Bring em in with the big name over the hill dudes and keep em with young stars. HAHAHA. What!?! Where is he? Dead? he never was SHIT! The Rock and Austin did more for Rikishi than HHH did. Jeff Jarrett helped make Booker in WCW, blows rikishi out of the water. You're right, my bad. Who did Jarrett make look good in his career? Monty, AJ, Chris Harris, Killings, DDP, Nash, Sting, Ric Flair, Booker T, Scott Stiener to name a few. By the way those are all people that he has beaten aswell. I think some of those names had pretty good luck after the "ever so deadly" jarrett beating.

you ass

he did say fricking

i wonder whose fault it was. and if car wrecks are punk. then consider me C.M.

and no, he didn't.

And I haven't? I'm not going to pretend I've been watching since day one. More like since. The first Jarrett vs Killings feud. But I consider that to be long enough. And another thing, I wouldn't consider myself a TNA supporter. I think the product as a whole is too flakey and doesn't make much sense, much like WCW. I see that phrase a lot in this thread. But then i also read that JJ wanted Monty to go over him and Dusty said no. But i thought JJ had the final word in everything? ABYSS? Are you serious. He CAN'T talk...at all! He hasn't said shit..ever. There is no way he could be a credible champion. He can wrestle..no doubt. But the makind/Kane thing was lame then and it's lame as HELL now. The only man on that list who MIGHT be more over than Jarrett is AJ. Orton...YES. although it's not ALL HHH's fault. But you blame everything on JJ, so I'll blindly say Trips is all to blame for how lame randy is. Jericho...No Doubt. Jericho is mid-card AT BEST. He did the clean job to Shelton Benjamin. Jericho is still over...but since his loss to Trips at WM X8 he hasn't been the same. Next PPV he didn't even wrestle. Next PPV he does the job to a newcomer Cena. Cena pretty much debuts and beats the man was world champ 2 months earlier. that's LOW I see you didn't mention..RVD...Kane..or Booker T...I wonder why? You're right, but thats not what i meant. I meant they probably(again i don't know for certain) want to give the title to a younger contender, I know jarrett is old. Thats why they don't give the belt to the likes of DDP, Savage and Nash. Because it would be devestating to morale that a man past his prime can walk in and become champion, when someone like Monty or Killings who work thier asses off don't get a break. I know thats what it seems like now, but Killings had his break and he will get it again. And just wait...Monty will get his too. I didn't mean that AJ or the Truth wouldn't be credible, i carefully used the word position, meaning they were involved in other things for the time being. Also Killings got pinned CLEAN by primetime, how credible would he be? I suppose that too is 100% Jarrett's fault. Jeff Jarrett may go over in the end, but he makes his opponents look like Gold. much like triple h does now. Like I said, Name one person Jarrett has beat cleanly in this title run.

"fricking directors"

Anyone know where i can get TEW? or the update for it with the real wresltlers? I've been updating my 4.0 this whole time and i'm sick of it, i need a better version. thanks

I got 3 different situations here: Why exaclty didn't Jarrett re-sign with WWF? I've heard he was suppossed to work a program with Austin but Austin vetoed it and Jarrett got pissed cuz JR told him that he didn't have the look of a main eventer or something like that. Did Curt Henning choke out Brock Lesnar? I heard this happened on a plane i think. Lesnar was mouthing off and Hennig put him in his place. What is the current situation with the Flight from Hell? I know what allegedly happened. I'm just wondering if the lawsuit was dropped? Or if Hall and Rhodes were fired over the situation? And if so why wasn't Flair in trouble over it? And slickster this white boy LOVES your avatar!

Will Smith is a great actor, a decent rapper and he didn't write those lyrics. FAKE

1) What is your favorite WM, top to bottom, of all time? Wrestlemania X8 2) What is your least favorite WM of all time? Wrestlemania I 3) What is your favorite WM match? Austin vs Rock, WM XV 4) What is your least favorite WM match? Undertaker vs Big Show & Albert, WM X9 5) Name some honorable mentions for favorite match: Austin vs Rock, WM X7/ HBK vs Razor, WM X/ Hart vs Austin, WM XIII 6) What is your favorite WM venue? Skydome 7) What is your least favorite WM venue? MSG 8) Going in, which WM card do you think looked the best on paper? WM X8 9) Going in, which WM card do you think looked worst on paper? WM 2000 10) What do you think is the most underrated WM of all time? WM X8 11) What do you think is the most overrated WM of all time? WM III 12) What is your favorite WM moment? Hulk vs Rock, WM X8/ Jericho being Champion at WM X8/ Brock Lesnar about killing himself, WM X9/ The Fans reaction to Lesnar vs Goldberg, WMXX (13) What is your least favorite WM moment? Trips beating Jericho, WMX8 (14) Who would you pick as the top three Wrestlemania performers of all time? Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin 15) How many of the previous 20 Wrestlemanias have you seen? ALL 16) What was the most surprising WM moment to you? Trips tapping out to Benoit 17) Who was your favorite "special guest" at a WM? Tyson 18) Which WM have you seen the most times? WM X7, WMX8, WMXX 19) Which WM commentary team was your favorite? Ross & King 20) Above all, what do you want to see at WM this year? At least one **** match

ya, I'm sure thats what he was doing.

They should do a title held up due to injury and have a 4 man tourny for chance to face london (since he's already #1 contender) for the vacant title at WM. then Akio can win that. I think thats what people are implying.

Not to be a big "OMG conspiracy~!" theorist, but didn't 2Pac fake his death with that whole Makiavelli thing? Thats what everyone thought because makaveli was some dude in egypt who faked his death. 2 Pac's "God Bless the Dead" - He says "rest in peace to biggie smalls" and 2 pac died before biggie.

ah thats right now i remember hearing that. I used to think that the ultimate warrior suffered brain damage from being locked in undertaker's coffin for too long so they had to find a new guy to be Warrior. I knew wrestling was fake, but i thought that was real.

to this day i thought yokozuna was japanese

I really liked Mail Dominance too. I actually have a Mail Dominance shirt. I still don't get the title? I have all his albums I just haven't listened to them. I head Godlike is a good CD too, but i haven't listened to it. WWW.Com is my fav NATAS Cd.

no you didn't say that JJ was doing this on purpose, i think someone else suggested that. I don't think JJ is obbsessed with pushing himself, he just knows that putting the title on someone who isn't ready isn't a good idea. Also he doesn't wanna put the title on an old man such as DDP because i'm assuming TNA would like to focus on youth. So they might be saving Jarrett's title loss for a young babyface. TNA may have dropped the ball on Monty(I say may have because we haven't seen how this is going to play out.) And besides Monty they haven't had a young babyface in position to take the title. I honestly think they are a very limited number of people in TNA that are up to the world title level. I think Jarrett keeping the title for another couple months is in the company's best interest until they build up another young babyface or the Monty Angle plays out.

I agree that AJ's win over JJ wasn't a CLEAN victory. AJ was the Heel, and Heels don't usually go over the babyface clean, agreed? Name one person Jeff has gone over clean in his latest HEEL title run. He didn't even go over Hector Garza cleanly. Yes, JJ has an ego. Everyone in wrestling has an ego. I don't think Jeff is damaging TNA on purpose to "keep himself a star". I do actually think JJ's title run is damaging to the company. But it's not Jarrett's fault, it's because TNA doesn't have anyone in the position to carry the title other than Jarrett. Monty was being groomed for the position and was getting there until they turned him heel. Thats something i'm sure the jarrett haters blame solely on him. I don't think comparing him to Triple H is fair at. It's deffinently not something that is making JJ look worse. Triple H is far more damaging to the people he squashes than JJ. It's not even close. At least the people JJ beats don't lose all credibility and heat. It's amazing how many things people blame JJ for. It's also amazing that everyone thinks JJ is purposely buring the company to make himself look like a star. It's also amazing how Jeff Jarrett is playing all you Jarrett Haters for marks.