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I thought about Edge's future and here is what I came up with for him: --He'll job out to Cena and then face Foley at WM. He will win that match of course. --He'll embark on a post WM feud with RVD, perhaps over something like a MITB (should be easy enough, Edge can say that he's Mr. Money in the Bank and wants another shot...that is if they DO another MITB at WM). --He will get jobbed out to RVD in that feud. --In the draft he will be traded over to SD since by that point Orton--if he has the title--will be tanking horribly and they will need a new main heel.
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They should definitely put Nova over Memphis. Ever since that Zaga win Memphis really hasn't done anything top 5 notable. Here's the way it should go: 1. Duke (if they win this week) 2. Villanova (gotta do it now, they beat #1) 3. UConn (the loss isn't THAT big of a deal as long as they beat WVU) 4. Memphis (they go down 1 mainly due to Nova winning) 5. Gonzaga (staying solid).
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With the way this went down I'm banking that HHH beats the Big Show in that 3 way to get that #1 contender spot. I'm actually shocked they are protecting RVD this much...figured he'd get to the finals and then job out to HHH with little fanfare. Now with this 3 way they can simply job out the Big Show. Oh God, in fact I just KNOW the finish they'll use: RVD hits the 5 Star on the Big Show, HHH will then toss Van Dam out of the ring while he's selling the move, HHH then Pedigrees the Show and wins.
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I think this is actually a bad move. To me, what little heat Randy had was a residual of his dad doing run ins and cheating for him. Now what do you have? Randy Orton out there doing headlocks for 20 mins. before hitting an RKO.
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Lynn/Corino wasn't a terribly amazing match however aside from the bizarre DIE spot. I'd put another "Corino gets his ass beat" match: Tajiri/Corino from HH 2000. Blood on the camera! 2Gold, what Tanaka/Awesome would you put on there? I'd put the New Year's Eve 1999 TNN match with Awesome regaining the title. How can you top the inverted sitdown powerbomb from the top rope?
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That lied part is kinda funny but it makes a PPV stip seem meaningless. This whole idea of Orton screwing UT over makes me want to see Orton/UT at WM, certainly not Angle/Orton.
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I'll tell you one match that I'm not sure fits the Bloodsport motif of the DVD but I like it: RVD vs. Lynn from a Sept. 99 TNN show. That is the one where Lynn had the broken ribs. I personally think this is their best match.
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The Nova/UConn matchup means little tomorrow really, especially given that the two teams will likely split the season series. I'd think if there is a 3rd matchup then whoever wins that at MSG is the favorite for Indy. Both could be 1 seeds right now. WVU getting back on track tonight with a solid road win over G'Town. WVU gets UConn in Morgantown soon, as well as a Pitt rematch. I think they can win both. But hopefully they have another goofy letdown game vs. U of L, cause we REALLY need a road win in conf.
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Honestly I found the main event to be almost a satire of every WWE cliched main event of the past 7 years. What I didn't get about it was where was Larry Z. during all that? He talked constantly about firing anyone who did a run in and yet here is Gail Kim interfering at will. I think they put the title on Christian tonight due to Edge getting it in WWE. Will Christian job it back in 3 weeks however? Will he and his hot wife have torrid sex in the middle of the ring on the next Impact? At this point I almost think they could be making Joe TOO invincible. As in there's no one believably on the roster who stands a chance. I mean fucking Alex Shelley beating Joe? Austin Aries? I don't give a shit about what Aries and others did against Joe in ROH...in TNA's universe those guys are Joe's jobber bitches. I was just wondering but what's up with Sabu? I'd almost like to see him take a shot at Joe, but he's not really X division. That would be a sick match though...I'd fear for Sabu's life.
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Is there going to be an Ironman movie?
cabbageboy replied to Lt. Al Giardello's topic in Television & Film
I think Clooney is the closest there would be to looking like the guy in the comic book. Thing is, with these more prestigious films like Good Night and Good Luck and Syrianna, is Clooney even interested in doing this stuff? I guess you gotta do the safe picture, then you do the art picture...then sometimes you do the payback picture cause your friend says you owe him. (For Clooney I guess the safe would be Iron Man, the art would be a film about Walter Cronkite or something, and the payback is doing something for Steven Soderbergh.) -
With this Orton crap pissing on Eddie's grave I am not going to watch SD. There may be some decent stuff buried in there somewhere but it's not SO good that I can forgive the main angle. Also, if this leads to Orton beating Rey for the title shot and a 10 month Orton title reign, then I shall continue the boycott.
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That Pitt and WVU game was typical Pitt (were you expecting Michaelangelo?). I'd imagine in the rematch Pittsnoggle will be back on his game more and WVU will win.
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They can't have Orton win this match now, not with Eddie's family at ringside. There has to be some attack of sanity here. You can take Orton and have him work with Booker T. at WM, or do whatever at WM. Considering Angle is going to play heel vs. UT soon he can simply stay in that mode vs. Rey for WM. Let's say Orton wins...what then? You have "most revolting heel" vs. "possible heel/tweener" at WM. You've pissed off all the fans, pissed off the wrestlers in the back, shit all over Eddie's memory...and for what? To try and get fucking RANDY ORTON over (which is a move that can't possibly work anyway)?
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Interesting that they had UT beat Henry there. Isn't this one of the oh so money drawing WM matches they had in mind?
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This card isn't in absolute dire straits until they announce HHH vs. Cena and Orton vs. Angle as the main events. Somehow I can't help but think that a light will go off before then and they'll say "Wait up, we can't have two heels win the titles at WM." Cause right now those two title matches have essentially no one to cheer. First off, within what they have sorta set up here's what I'd do: --Rey must win at No Way Out. This isn't an issue. Orton/Angle has all the appeal of a damp rag. Let Rey retain his shot and go to WM, dedicate his match to Eddie, and pull off the mega huge win. Then you can go back to Orton/Rey or whatever. --The Raw tourney must end in a screwy non decision with RVD and HHH. Since I doubt HHH would accept being in the midcard this is the best solution. You can have a 3 way at WM with Cena/RVD/HHH, with Cena as a tweener, RVD the face, and HHH the heel. Doesn't that beat the lame 1 on 1 match (that would bury RVD in the process)? It's obvious from that wwe.com poll that fans certainly would accept RVD in that position.
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Will WWE ever be as great as they were in 2000?
cabbageboy replied to AmazingRen's topic in The WWE Folder
I've watched quite a few of those old school MSG and Philly shows on 24/7, stuff from roughly 1980-84...and for the most part that stuff sucks ass. There are some individual matches that are good from this time period (Patterson/Slaughter street fight, Snuka/Backlund, etc). Honestly I think the WWF first started getting good as far as in ring wrestling goes around 1988. That's when they signed several guys like Hennig, Owen, the Rockers, etc. and it improved their mid card dramatically. 2000 was a good year but is vastly overrated. It was the beginning of HHH getting the push from hell, winning the main event at WM as a heel, and so on (yeah his first title win was in 99 but it wasn't until 2000 that he was truly a top guy). Guys like Jericho and Benoit were ready but were held down, albeit having good matches against each other. 2000 also had some really shitty stuff like the RTC, Angle's brother hiding under the ring to help him beat UT, the entire debacle known as the "Who hit Austin?" angle, the fizzle out of the HHH/Angle/Steph triangle that went nowhere. 1999 gets shit on a lot for not having much in the way of good wrestling or PPVs and I guess that is true. But Raw at that point was so fast paced, so enjoyable. 2000 had a decent oasis from roughly June-October. The stuff before that was solid in terms of wrestling but it was utter depression in terms of booking or sending the fans home happy. And the late 2000 stuff was a total joke that was a harbinger of the dreaded Steph booking era to come. -
OAO 02/06/06 RAW thread - WM22 Tournament Begins
cabbageboy replied to Downhome's topic in The WWE Folder
I will say that RVD/Masters will be surprisingly decent next week. Masters is a hell of a lot better worker than Snitsky, in fact I'm not giving either him or Carlito much shit anymore since they are at least trying to improve to justify their pushes. As far as predictions go, I'll take HHH over Big Show next week to blow off that filler feud. And I'll take RVD over Masters with either a botched Carlito run in to cost Masters or maybe RVD reversing the Masterlock into a pin (which keeps Masters strong). The sad thing is that when they showed that voting it was like 45% for RVD, 24% for HHH, 12% for Big Show, etc. Will they listen to those poll results? Of course not. -
Regardless of FSU being 42, 30, 94 they are still at the end of the day a Jobber to the Stars that Duke should have little trouble trashing at home. Hell, they were favored by 16 I think. Just wondering but what is U of L in Sagarin? I know we're about 64 in the RPI. And Iggy I do agree that the RPI is a joke. Let's face it, they have a bunch of midmajors like Old Dominion, George Mason, Missouri St. and so on well ahead of U of L. We might suck this year, but I'll be damned if we couldn't trash any of those teams.
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It's funny but anyone else find it amusing that the refs went from trying to screw the Steelers vs. the Colts in every way possible to prevent them from getting to the Super Bowl, and then once in the Super Bowl did everything to ensure that they win? As far as the Seahawks go, I think Skip Bayless had it right: "Seattle is a product of the worst schedule in football, in the worst division. And they have the most intimidating home field advantage." That's pretty much it really. I see no signs that they'll be back in this game by any means, since they mostly beat a bunch of scrubs and got lucky as shit against a couple of real opponents at home (Dallas, NYG). The times where they had to play a solid team on the road, they lost (Skins, Jags).
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FSU is #94 in the RPI right now....seems pretty much like a jobber to me. Oh, I beg your pardon, I'll fix that: JTTS. Why don't more teams double team Redick to shut him down? Or just put a goon on him to take him out? Duke outta be worried a bit. Against FSU they had Redick put up 36 or so, Williams had 20+, and they still barely snuck by.
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This game tonight just had zero Super Bowl vibe to me. With the Michaels/Madden announce team, the theme song, Tafoya on the sidelines....it all reeked of a yawner mid November MNF game. The game in essence felt like "Super Bowl: In Your House." Was Seattle dicked over a bit by the refs? Sure. Do I care? Not really. Let's face it, outside of the Pacific NW there wasn't much of anyone hyped for the Seahawks being in the Super Bowl. Seattle played such a bland, vanilla game that it's hard to sympathize with them. Without that one goofy Roethlisberger INT at the goal line, that game is a 28-3 squash. This was a Super Bowl that was odd to me in that I didn't think there was really a standout player on either side. Hasselbeck didn't really make enough notable big plays for Seattle, Shaun Alexander proved tonight why he was voted "Most Overrated" by NFL players, and the Steelers had a few big plays, but not many big players. Roethlisberger had his one big pass play, Parker his one big run, Randle El his one sweet WR pass...and Hines Ward ends up as MVP? I was surprised at that really since I hadn't even thought of him as being the MVP. I guess he had 123 yards but it was mostly him being the recipient of something notable (Roethlisberger's heave, Randle El's pass) than him doing anything all that great. End result? Just a forgettable Super Bowl. Not the best, not the worst either.
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Anyone who thinks this Duke team is an all time great team is delusional. Squeaking by a jobber like Va Tech at home? FSU? I don't think I'd really take Duke right now against any team in the top 10 aside from a really banged up Florida. Man, that U of L/ND game was awesome today. Dean's buzzer beating 3 to tie it was just amazing and a potential season saver for U of L. Now two things are needed: 1. Win a few more games to make the conf. tourney at least (I'd say about 18-19 wins). 2. Win a game or two at MSG to reach 20 wins. I can't see any way the committee leaves out a 20 win Rick Pitino team.
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I think Shelton is going to beat Flair for the IC at some point soon so he can do that rather than this tourney. On pwinsider.com they are noting house shows upcoming with RVD/Shelton and assuming they'll go 1 on 1 at WM. I personally don't think so, but rather they should be 2 of the Raw guys in a new Money in the Bank match. At this point what exactly could RVD do with the IC title that he didn't do the other 6 times? Time to move the guy up. Honestly, jwpeer I think RVD still has a devoted fanbase for a few reasons: 1. Longtime fans remember his dominant ECW run. 2. Some also remember his early WWF tenure where his popularity rivalled The Rock or Austin. 3. He's really the last of the guys in the Jericho, Benoit, Eddie, Booker vein (that era) who hasn't quite gotten that world title that was long overdue. I noticed that in the Byte This interview, the general tone of "I'm glad to be back, here's hoping I actually DO something this time because I don't know how many more good years I have left." As far as psychology goes, RVD can do that as well but not in matches with stuff like "HHH works his leg for 15 minutes." A lot of his offense is centered on using his legs, so while it's good psychology to take out his legs it tends to make for a shitty match. Watch a match like the Jericho match at Unforgiven 2001 and you'll see Jericho work Rob's shoulder and he sells that very well (right down to the finish). His matches in ECW with Jerry Lynn also have a lot of psychology that has gone undetected. Stuff like them doing a series of counters and one will work in one match, but then not in the next match. Or for instance the match with Lynn where his ribs were taped and RVD focused most of his offense on the hurt ribs. Psychology goes beyond just limping when a guy works the leg for 20 minutes.
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Dude, it's just Kansas and they are pretty weak this year. As far as that BC/Duke game goes, I was more mystified that BC drove for a pointless layup instead of going for a much needed 3. People act shocked that the officials would side with Duke.
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Ravenbomb, you took the words right out of my mouth. Since we all know HHH is going to WM he has to screw over some sort of notable face in the finals. Carlito and Masters aren't faces and I'm not sure exactly what Kane is (not that anyone thinks Kane would go to WM to face the champ anyway). It has to be RVD in the finals since he's the only one there with any face heat or that fans would buy in that position at this point. This tourney has Russo overbooking all over it. We'll have Masters get by Kane in some screwy fashion (maybe a successful Carlito run in, or possibly a botched Show run in). RVD will advance over Carlito via a screwed up Masters run in. Then Carlito returns the favor to Masters and RVD advances over him. The other half is less complicated as HHH should get past Flair convincingly. And I'm sure Vince will screw Shawn over against The Big Show had get him DQed or counted out in bogus fashion. HHH can finally blow off the Big Show feud in the semis before squashing the dreams of RVD marks. That said, RVD in the FF of the Rumble and the finals of a WM tourney is a positive sign (should that happen) for his future.