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The SEC is also similar in both football and basketball. In both the games are usually boring, low scoring, and ugly to watch. To truly kill the BCS what is needed is 4 really major teams from big conferences to go undefeated. Then we'll see the shit hit the fan. Last year Auburn was dicked but Utah wasn't considered notable enough to raise the ire of critics. For instance this year it'd be possible for USC, Texas, Va Tech, and either Georgia or Bama out of the SEC to all go unbeaten. Texas doesn't really have much left of note though while Va Tech has to play Miami and likely FSU. If they win those, could it be possible that they leap over Texas even if the Longhorns don't lose?

Michigan is going to get owned next week against that now unstoppable juggernaut known as....Northwestern(!?). The ACC can never be the best conf. in football though. There are just too many crappy jobbers like Duke, Wake, etc. It also doesn't help when teams like UNC go out of conf. and get assraped by U of L 69-14 (and then win a game 7-5). The ACC is eerily similar in football and basketball. In basketball you have usually 3 good teams (Duke, UNC, and someone else like Maryland or Wake). In football they have Va Tech, FSU, and Miami. After that, just a bunch of JTTS. The SEC is the best conference in football. The only jobbers are UK and the Miss schools. Even Vandy is pretty decent this year.

Anyone who frequents this forum knows how hard I am on Orlando Jordan and Carlito for being worthless. That said, the single most worthless guy on the roster, devoid of any resemblance of talent, heat, mic skills, anything....is Tyson Tomko.

The Indians aren't nearly as much of a jobber franchise as the Cubs. Nowhere close. They got to two World Series in the 1990s and another in 1954, and won in 1948. The Cubs haven't done SHIT since about 1945 and they lost that Series then. The last win was like 1908, wasn't it? Was there ever really a curse on the Indians anyway? From 1954 to 94 they were mostly just crappy. Just having a few decades of futility isn't enough to be a cursed, doomed franchise. There have to be horrible debacles where it seems like God strikes the team down and says "Thou shalt not win." Even the White Sox on lesser levels have had that happen, from coming up short in 1959 to losing the pennant in 1967 to the Red Sox by losing their last 5 games. Anyway as far as this World Series, I'll take the White Sox. I figure the Red Sox broke their curse last year, so now it's time for the White Sox.

That's cause he's Dean Fucking Malenko.

Is anyone trying to say the Texas Rangers are cursed since they haven't made a WS in their 45 years in the league? Personally I just think it's because they've never been all that good. No, if the White Sox win this series then the Cubs will be the last romanticized jobber team out there.

I don't know when or how but I just think Texas is going to fuck this all up. They always manage to. They've taken the Ohio St. role of the team with all the talent that never manages to win it all. As far as Michigan goes, they aren't that bad of a team. Losing to ND wasn't a big shock and the other two wins were in the last minute against Wisc. and Minn. I know U of L's season has become a complete disaster after that WVU game last week, but check out the first 3 games in the Big East: at USF, at WVU, at Cincy. Who the hell started us with 3 road games in a new conference? I hope USF and WVU enjoyed themselves this year because next year I'm assuming they come to Louisville and it will not be pretty.

Sass, I gotta disagree with you on a couple of those. I'm taking the Giants over the Broncos mainly because the Broncos deep down are going to revert to their usual post Elway form. Namely 10-6 by season's end. They'll be exposed by someone soon, and it might as well be Sunday. Also, yes I agree Dallas has better D than Seattle but better offense? Yeah they ran it up on the Eagles a bit but did you see that horrid game against the Giants last week? Seattle should take that one at home.

Here's the thing that Ross bashers can't seem to grasp: There isn't anyone decent they would use to replace him. Why this huge desire to sign Mike Goldberg? The guy announces a 3rd tier niche sport (UFC) and also does football games for the shitty Fox Sports Net channel. He isn't notable or anything, and frankly the crowd would treat him much the same as they did Michael Cole in 1998-99. He was right to turn them down, as it would have killed his credibility for future legit sports jobs. JR has actually been the best of the Raw announcers lately. Hell, is anyone going to argue that Coach should be on a headset? Lawler's act is quite stale, moreso than Ross.

You know a segment makes an impact when someone calls right after it. The midgets and Boogeyman segment was so bizarre and out of nowhere, I laughed my ass off at it. Isn't it interesting the shows booked by the guys who actually know the wrestling business (Heyman in OVW, Dusty with Smackdown) are the best shows? Raw the other night sucked a dick compared to this show. I think to some extent they try too hard with Raw, as in too much goofy experimental crap and sports entertainment. It also doesn't help that Raw is such a stale show at the moment, seemingly trying to relive the glory days of 1998-99 with Austin, Foley, and the McMahons all over TV. It's like WWE flat out doesn't give a shit about Smackdown and that actually makes the show BETTER as a result. I can imagine Steph and Co. having a meeting and Steph saying "I'm worried about my screen time on Raw, book whatever shit you want." Then Dusty just sends Benoit and Booker out for 20m to do their thing and GASP, it actually works.

There are very few songs that strike me in a very sad manner but I'd have to go with Dixie Chicks "Travelling Soldier." I'm not really into country much, but that song gets me every time.

The Rock needs that big Terminator or Rocky type role to really put him over the top as a major star. There is literally zero reason why Vin Diesel should draw 100 million in some stuff while the Rock can't. I assume the wrestling aspect is a drawback.

Yeah but with Edge he wins feuds against guys that honestly he has zero business winning feuds against, if that makes any sense. The weird aspect is that the one guy who actually beat him in a feud (Regal) got jack shit out of it, just jobbing the IC to RVD at WM. Edge's problem is that he's not a terribly compelling performer and is upstaged easily, even in a feud designed to push him. For instance, the Angle feud. Do you recall Edge beating Kurt in most of the matches, or do you remember Angle having his head shaved and wearing the hilarious wig? Edge won the matches but Angle did most of the entertaining stuff in the feud and thus he ended up getting more over. Ditto Eddie in that 2002 feud with Edge. The crowd so obviously could tell he was carrying Edge that quite a few people cheered for Eddie. Even though Edge won the blowoff to that feud, it was Eddie who got more out of it. Hell, you could go to last year with Orton as well. Orton was being groomed for the world title, yet he actually LOST that feud with Edge over the IC. Yet the crowd responded more to Orton than Edge, thus Orton got pushed harder (though the face turn did serious damage to him). You can add the Matt feud to this as well. Edge is the guy they want to push, but the crowd obviously is behind Matt more. I think once RVD gets back he should feud with Edge. It's such a natural idea for a feud. The two have wrestled sparingly and have both been on that cusp of the main event. It can be a "There isn't room enough at the top for both of us" type feud.

Lawler sometimes get any worthless old USWA guys on in WWE. His son is one, hell Viscera is another. The Flair/Hogan pseudo feud is the biggest example of why the WWF's mentality of never acknowledging any promotions back then hurt them. To get the importance of Flair challenging Hogan they had to mention his accomplishments but they refused to do all that.

I'm shocked no one has mentioned "Mmmm mmmm mmmm" by the Crash Test Dummies. A friend of mine actually bought that CD and hated it so much he took a knife to it and carved a huge scratch into it, then took it back to the store.

Well, that's what I meant actually. In the previous films we have the heel alliances set up with extended scenes and they share all sorts of screen time. Here we have a couple of vague scenes with Crane and Falcone, they seem to be aligned but to what end? And then we find out Ra's is involved, etc. Kinda keeps you guessing. Ra's big speech near the end where he rants about his group sacking Rome, burning London, and almost destroying Gotham with the Great Depression was funny though. What is this dude, a villain from an Eternal Warrior comic?

Oh I think Billick has definitely left his stamp on the Ravens: awful QB, win with insane defense, etc. I blame the Ravens for this trend in the NFL to be honest. I think the Colts will actually take out Jacksonville again, but they'll lose to Seattle on the road or someone like that.

That was probably Edge's best mic work ever, though even then he had a tendency to really trash his opponents and hurt their heat. Now a tangent: Has anyone besides me noticed that Edge never ever seems to lose a feud to anyone? Aside from perhaps the Regal "Power of the Punch" debacle Edge has seemingly won feuds against everyone since he and Christian broke up.

I think I'm the only person on earth who wants to see the return of Stevie Ray. Hell, they bring back Piper at times for no good reason. I can at least think of some stuff Stevie could do with Booker and Sharmell.

What's truly insane is that I recall joking about something like that before the match! Stuff like "Wouldn't it be hilarious if Nash pulled a Jerry Rice here and got hurt again his first night back?" It was one of those things I felt kinda bad about laughing at (since I like ole Nash) but if you were watching at the time you had to be rolling or in amazement.

Oh god, you mean to tell me that this show was the show with the Gayda debacle AND also the Nash quad tear? This had to be one of the worst Raws ever, though it did have some car wreck charms.

I thought it was Kurt Angle? Or was that just a stupid rumor?

I don't know what I think about the "NWA champ vs. X Division champ" idea. In the grand scheme of things it's really counterproductive either way. It's goofy to have a glorified cruiser title with no defined meaning being considered #1 over the actual world title. Also, if you job out Styles to Jarrett it's harmful since no one who doesn't NEED to job to Jarrett should job to Jarrett.

I can't help but like Nash. Hell, if I was in WCW I'd have let him job me out to the Jersey Triad and smiled.

Well, actually there was a big main heel waiting at the end, but that's neither here nor there. Having watched it tonight I must say I enjoyed this much more on a 2nd viewing. In the theater I didn't quite know what I thought of it, it seemed so different from the other films. A major plus is that here the heels don't overact nearly as bad as in the other films. It was however amusing that they did the same "Heels all team up to do something evil" with the Ra's/Scarecrow/Falcone teaming. The difference here being that in this film they don't share much screen time or mug for the camera.