cabbageboy

I've been saying it for weeks: The main source of conflict in all this Edge/Kane and now Edge/Matt stuff has been the idea that Lita is SO incredible and awesome that Edge is willing to be attacked constantly just to be with her. Thing is, it's obvious to anyone that even storywise Edge is just fucking Lita for the hell of it. The rational thing to do is just dump her since she's not worth the hassle. It'd be hilarious if Edge dumps Lita and then he, Matt, and Kane all go to the local watering hole and swap stories.

I agree with the squash sentiments. I mean hell I used to mark out for a Crush/Papa Shango main event because it actually meant two notable wrestlers were going at it rather than just squashing jobbers. And just imagine how amazing stuff like Bret/Bulldog from SS 92 seemed after watching mostly jobber matches that whole summer. There needs to be more programming. Maybe something like Superstars back in the day, something to just let guys stomp a jobber. Then have the better stuff on Raw.

I'm a pioneer in HHH hate...I've always sorta disliked the guy no matter if he was a heatless blueblood circa 1995, a degenerate circa 1998, or the Cereberal Assassin. I think it was after WM 2000 that I seriously started hating his guts though, it's still a complete farce that he retained at that show. Hell, the whole Angle/HHH/Steph thing only served to put HHH over and bury Angle for a time, but Angle survived it and won the title. Imagine how much cooler Angle's title run had been had he beat HHH in that feud though. I also watched those Raws on the 24/7. What was up with that Bulldog/Yoko angle anyway? On that show they did a Yokozuna face turn so he could feud with a heel Bulldog. Who in their right mind would possibly cheer that fat fuck over Davey Boy?

The NWA badly needs to cut any ties with guys who were headlining WCW near the end, and this includes guys like Sid. I'd say it's obvious by the .15 buyrates WCW was drawing that Sid doesn't bring much to the table. What they need to do is push a very different and fresh array of talent. Those guys won't have the stigma of either being released by WWE or headlining the waning days of WCW. Or well, to modify that I might sign the Duds or Kanyon but wouldn't use them as my absolute top guys.

I don't think RVD is a lost cause by any means. Take a look at Raw of late, everyone is out there doing the most boring, bland wrestling known to man. At least RVD can do a bit different stuff and if he is allowed to do anything decent at all he'll get more over than most anyone on the roster.

It is amazing that Christian has any heat. What is his TV record this year, like 5-22? We traded the boring JBL speech this week for the Eddie/Rey Days of Our Lives angle. Am I the only one who thinks that this whole thing doesn't really make any sense, particularly what Rey was saying? He came off like a prick tonight without really meaning to. I mean here he was wanting his son to stay with him, then took time out to trash Eddie saying he can't beat him. And then puts his own son on the line in a wrestling match? What kind of sick fuck would do that? I think Eddie will somehow emerge from this feud with his heat intact. Don't ask me HOW exactly but Eddie is that talented. Rey however? His heat is dying a slow, painful death.

You know, why is it no one is thinking that JBL might actually WIN at SS? It seems to be a given that Batista will destroy him this time, but given that Hassan was booked to win the title there does anyone think they might just plug JBL in Hassan's place? It'd be about the most horrible thing they could think of doing considering Batista is the only champion on the roster with any credibility. I doubt Hassan was ever meant to be a long term champ. These cheap heat gimmicks can't work long term in terms of being champ. Note that Iron Shiek was merely a transition guy between Backlund and Hogan, and Slaughter (during the Iraq phase) was a transition guy between Warrior and Hogan.

I dunno, I think Chavo is likely safe due to Uncle Eddie. They can always drop this idiotic Kerwin White crap and send him back to Smackdown...at least if Uncle Eddie abuses him in a family angle it might be entertaining. Back to Bagwell. Why is it I am drawing a blank on his team with the Patriot? I remember him teaming with Scorpio, and obviously later in the American Males, but I honestly have zero recollection of Stars and Stripes. Were they any good?

I think everyone can agree that the single biggest booking mistake WCW ever made was not having a true blowoff to the NWO where they finally got what was coming to them. The thing is I don't think Bischoff had another idea after the NWO, thus they stayed around forever. The irony is that WCW was actually doing a lot of great stuff right around the time the NWO first arrived. Take a look at GAB 96, that show has a lot of great stuff on it and maybe 5 mins. of The Outsiders. WCW didn't HAVE to have the NWO to have a good show, it just became a booking crutch.

RVD was a killer heel in 1996-97 era ECW..thing is he eventually got so over as a heel that he turned face. Or really didn't turn exactly, I can't think of a specific match or time where he turned. Come to think of it, RVD was always heelish in ECW almost till the very end, what with his constant putdowns of opponents and Fonzie's whistle.

The Death of WCW basically says a lot of what people have already been saying on here: too much creative control given to wrestlers, Bischoff wasn't minding the ship, no one was elevated until it was too late, etc. Starrcade 97 was a perplexing show in a lot of ways. You'd think since Bischoff planned it so far in advance he would have convinced Hogan way ahead of time that he had to job clean here, it was the only good choice. As far as the rest of the show goes, it's baffling. I didn't watch the show at the time but after hearing the results from friends who saw it I was bewildered that they did half of that stuff. It was like: "Dude, I think Hogan got robbed....he got a 3 count on Sting, but then Bret Hart had the match restarted saying it was a fast count when it wasn't, and Sting won." I thought: "Why the hell would they do something like that? Sting should have just killed Hogan bad in that match." "That's stupid though

I had an idea along these Doink lines but I dont' think he should literally become Doink. A creepy heel type like Doink might be interesting though, where Dinsmore shows a more creepy retard edge to Eugene and slowly but surely we start to realize he's a psycho who is doing a retard schtick. Maybe have him slightly break character with no one else around, give a creepy smirk, things like that.

It would have to be mindblowing collusion to be true. I mean the year before this group called SFX tried to buy WCW for 500 million dollars (if you believe The Death of WCW). They ended up selling it for 3 million to Vince. It's weird, but the whole time period was so bizarre to think back on it. I don't think I even really remembered thinking anything in particular when I read WCW was cancelled on TV. It's like it somehow wasn't real to me....wrestling no longer being on TBS and TNT.

I probably saw Bagwell wrestle from 1992 to 2001 and you know what's funny? I can't think of ONE Bagwell match that is any good. Nothing that would even get to ***. By 1999 or so he was such an abysmal worker that he literally didn't hit anything he tried in the ring. His swinging neckbreaker is the worst I've ever seen, and he couldn't hit his own finisher half the time (The Blockbuster). Conway is somewhat bland in the ring but he's at least not inept. Besides, he's an original OVW guy from Louisville who finally made it to the main roster.

Yeah I know all those things happened (I read the Keith 93 Rant after all) but if you just watched the show on a casual basis the show from week to week didn't seem all that bad. I mean it certainly was nowhere near the level of crap of 1999/2000. In regards to Vader, did it really matter that the Sting Superbrawl and the Cactus Havoc match were non title? Vader won both matches so he would have retained anyway, which blows my mind now that I think on it. Why have a non title match on PPV with the champ retaining? I mean if you advertise it as a title match it'd get more buys.

I dunno, I wasn't real thrilled with Tennessee last year and I'll have to see them be awesome to believe it. These guys should have lost to friggin UK if not for Shane Boyd totally choking it away the last 5 mins. I repeat, they almost lost to KENTUCKY in football. Now that I say this, watch UK bust something out of their ass and beat U of L in the opener. If that somehow happens, restrain me from jumping off a high bridge.

So wait, zyn. You instead want Bulldog to job in his homeland to a heatless HHH circa 97? Yeah I'm sure that would have pleased the fans in the UK more than Bulldog jobbing to Shawn. The One Night Only PPV is the equivalent to the ECW PPV this year...it existed outside of the regular established storylines. Or rather maybe it was using the feuds of the day, but no one in the US even saw it or cared. Also, what does it say about Shawn when he wouldn't even job to Bulldog, a guy that was key in getting Shawn over as both IC champ and World champ? Bulldog jobbed to him in late 92 in the IC match, and then he was a key opponent in Shawn's 96 title run. It's a perfectly rational booking decision to say "Bulldog comes up short vs. Shawn in the US, but in the UK he gets the win."

Turfing Bischoff in Sept. 99 was pretty much necessary. The guy was a nonentity by that point, he was always on vacation, he let the inmates run the asylum. Frankly he was probably so burnt out that he needed to be let go. I maintain that the WWF was open to a possible attack around the time HHH first started getting pushed as champ. He wasn't over, the shows were getting mediocre, and if there had been anything notable happening in WCW they could have rebounded. In fact I dare say that the initial Russo Nitros were a lot more entertaining than the Raws of this time (Oct/Nov. 99). Whatever momentum Russo initially had was gone by Dec. 99 however, and they just went back to another lame NWO incarnation before Bret got hurt, Jarrett got hurt, and everyone wanted their release. Basically the events of Jan. 2000 killed WCW. By Jan. the WWF was also doing quality shows again and the Cactus/HHH feud finally put Hunter over as a major star.

A difference here is that Sandman's real son did this, whereas in the storyline now Eddie is supposed to be Dominic's real dad. Eddie really has to finally get a win here and end this feud. Yes, it's one of those goofy feuds where one guy dominates until the other finally gets ONE win and then it's over.

Well my point about JBL is that there is literally nothing he could do with the title at this point. Smackdown's face side just provides the same crap he did last year to little acclaim, unless it's just a shock switch and Batista regains soon after. It's time to cut bait here, job his ass out and end this failed experiment. Summerslam absolutely HAS to be Cabinet jobbing night, there is no other option. If I don't see both JBL and Orlando Jordan get their asses kicked then this PPV is a fiasco.

Maybe Bischoff DID get lucky? It's not like there was anything prior to 1996 that suggested they could do that great stuff. I almost think WCW succeeded at this point in spite of Bischoff. If you look at how many people truly liked WCW more than the WWF, this is a fairly small number (and would mainly consist of people in the south). I mean hell, I've always liked the WWF more than WCW but even I was more interesed in WCW in 1996 or so. Some of it was that I flat out hated what the WWF was doing back then. WCW only got a ratings lead in my view because people they were doing good stuff for a while and the WWF was shit. Once the WWF had something people wanted to see again (like Austin as champ), the WWF was back on top.

I truthfully didn't think WCW was all that bad in 1993. I mean hell at least the show was for the most part about wrestling, some of it still being pretty good. I'm a big Bulldog fan so it was nice seeing him get a push, Flair was back in the company, the Hollywood Blondes were carrying the tag division, etc. It was just that they spent money on too much foolish stuff like the White Castle of Fear (which personally I didn't think was all THAT horrible at the time, though it's hilarious watching now) or the Beach Blast mini movie. You know what's funny? That Aug. 93 Clash with the Shockmaster...I don't even remember him being on the show. And I saw the show, because I remember quite a few of the matches! What's funny is that I seem to recall the rest of that Clash being pretty good. It's a matter of perception. WCW was just a 2nd rate redneck league back then, if they did some stupid shit I let it pass because frankly I wasn't expecting anything great. In 1999 when they did all that horrible stuff it was worse because the company had been really wonderful for a while before the downfall.

At the end of the day, Bischoff has to be praised for WCW's success and blamed for its failure. It was his decision to let Nash book, it was his decision to dick around in Hollywood and take his daughter to Europe or Japan and ignore the company for weeks on end. If he'd put his foot down on some of this stuff before it got out of hand WCW might still be around today.

It's hard to feel that sorry that he didn't get the title considering he had zero business being in a main event anyway. I think his career is basically finished. Even if he's repackaged he's still going to be identified as Hassan, which is the problem of doing such a gimmick. I think Nick Dinsmore has the same trouble getting past being Eugene (someone like Rob Conway however can simply drop the goofy French gimmick and do something else). It would help if Magnus was known to WWE fans as Mark Magnus. Perhaps they should have brought him up under that name for a while, then had him do a heel turn and convert to Islam (which is what he did on OVW to justify his new gimmick). Thus if they wanted to kill the character off at some point he could simply go back to his previously established Magnus character and apologize for his actions.

The draft really killed Smackdown's drawing power. I don't think they care really since the show is going to move to Friday this fall and will be killed off a year from now. I can see why they would consider going on with the Rey/Eddie thing since that has been going forever and Eddie plausibly needs a win at some point. But this Batista/JBL thing? Fucking hell. No way can this possibly go past SS, since Batista obviously has to win there and end this crap feud. There is absolutely no way they can justify keeping Bradshaw in the main event at this point. It was sorta funny for a while but now it's getting offensive. Get this fucking clown off my TV.