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  1. I think there's some truth to how Savage left the WWF causing a strain in the Savage/McMahon relationship. From Bret Hart's book

     

    By the time I got to TVs in Bushkill, Pennsylvania, on November 8, the news was only just hitting, and hitting hard. Randy had jumped to WCW. Jack Lanza told me how Randy called Vince at four in the morning, drunk, to tell him he'd signed: "Randy never even gave Vince a chance to make him a counter offer." I found Vince in his office, and I could see he was shaken.

     

    If Savage ever goes in the Hall of Fame, we might see a McMahon/Savage matchup. It will be horrible, but in a train wreck I'm curious to see it.


  2. Oh...

     

    I thought this was going to be things like don't upgrade from coach to first class if your position doesn't warrant it, don't date above or below your position on the card, and things like that...

     

    Yeah, that's what I thought. Only main eventers are allowed to use the physical trainers and chiropracters. Any mid carder or jobber will immediately be deemed a pussy by the other wrestlers.


  3. Have Stephanie eat a punt.

     

    The whole "He's taking out the McMahons" angle is flawed since Stephanie's back. Legacy can always trap HHH, Orton snaps, PUNT! Then he can do his freaked out face.

     

    They also messed up by doing the don't touch rule, and then having Orton break it two days later.

     

    The best use of that was in 01, HHH v. Austin-

     

    HHH pretended to sign the contract but lied so he could beat up Austin more

    HHH pedigreed JR

    Austin stunned Stephanie

     

    One of the best video packages ever done by WWF.

     

     


  4. WrestleMania X-7 was a great show, especially because it wasn't built up very well. Most matches were decided a few weeks before the event and the rushed buildup lead to lower expectations.

     

    My favourite non wrestling match part of the show, is where Austin is staring at himself in the mirror before the main event starts. It's a great shot. It's sets up his actions in the main event.


  5. My first thought, as well. Not to mention "Highway to Hell" was the theme for Summerslam 98.

     

    This makes it even more confusing as to how Vince didn't get exposure to AC/DC prior to 2000.

     

     

    Vince hadn't seen Scarface in 1992 when Scott Hall was pitching the character of Razor Ramon to him. He thought Hall was a genius for coming up with the gimmick on the spot.

     

    Vince is in his own world...Unbelievable...


  6. I just hope the Royal Rumble winner actually main events WrestleMania. They've diluted the drawing power of the Royal Rumble to me by

     

    2006: Rey wins Rumble but wrestles for the title in the undercard of 22. The fact they did some screwiness with Orton and the title shot didn't make me happy.

    2007: Undertaker wins the Rumble and is on the FIFTH match of the card at 23. The last man in the Rumble that was thrown out, Shawn Michaels, is in the main event at WrestleMania 23 even though he LOST the Rumble

    2008: Cena wins, puts the shot on the line at No Way Out and then is the third match from the top at 24.

     

     


  7. Plenty of points where you could say it began (personally, I vote for Survivor Series 97). As for where it ended, Steve Austin shaking hands with Vince McMahon at the end of WM 17 was a pretty definitive stake in the heart.

     

    Thats the beauty of Wrestlemania X-SEVEN. Not only was it probably the climax of the Attitude Era, but also a fitting close, and the beginning of a new direction for the company. Austin shaking hands with "Satan, himself", put the perfect end to the wildest era WWE has ever seen.

     

    Unless the "Attitude campaign" predates the Survivor Series, which I don't remember it doing or not, then it's from the Montreal Screwjob to Austin shaking hands with McMahon at X-Seven.

     

    I used to think that, until I watched a lot of shows from late 01 awhile back and saw that it was still very much attitude era-ish.

     

    The promo where Austin and Rock sing together happened in late 01. How could the Attitude Era have ended before that? This is THE Attitude Era promo.

     

    http://www.megavideo.com/?v=NZMT38GR

    http://www.megavideo.com/?v=SLL1EYKY

     

    And if you watch that, what did Austin shaking hands with Vince actually do? Only a few months later and they're right back to Austin and Rock being the two most popular babyfaces in the company. The Alliance and Austin's relationship with McMahon are about to be dead and forgotten about. It might as well not even have happened. So did they really go in a new direction? Not really. For a little while they did, but then they were back where they started. Wrestlemania X7 didn't actually close anything. Based on that, I'd say Jebus is right. The Attitude Era definitely extended past WMX7 and probably went all the way up to the brand split.

     

    Austin was never the same after he shook hands with McMahon, especially after his heel run. After Survivor Series 2001, his character seemed kinda flat because of the screwy booking of 2001. Hell, look at his placement on the card for WrestleMania X-8. That would have never happened to Austin from Mania's 14 to 17.

     

    The major storyline of the Attitude era was McMahon versus Austin. Once they concluded that, it went to a new era. Remember, a lot of the Attitude era has a role in the Monday Night Wars...the Attitude era is a by product of the Monday Night Wars. Once you have WCW and ECW in the mix, it is no longer that Attitude era but a whole new era.

     


  8. I've always loved the bodyguard angles in wrestling. Wrestler is the target of mulitiple enemies. In order to ensure the champion keeps his title, he enlists the aid of a bodyguard/insurance policy/etc to make sure he doesn't lose the title.

     

    This topic is to discuss some of the worst and best angles in history.

     

     

    For me, Shawn/Diesel is the tops


  9. Back in the day, and referenced in Bret Hart's amazing book, McMahon used to pay whatever he felt like for an event.

     

    For example, Bret was complaining to George Scott that he got $2,000 for his WrestleMania 2 pay and Bret said he didn't want the money because it was too low. He was lucky that Scott took care of getting Bret's pay bumped to $4,000 because McMahon probably would have fired him.

     

    Nowdays, it's different.

     

    Batista, for example, according to the latest Observer makes somewhere around $2 million per year. I think that's because he has a decent spot on the card. It's not like he's moving crazy merchandise or anything.

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