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I hoped this would happen. 50 thinks he can tell Dre what he can and can't do? If not for Dre putting 30 cops on the payroll to begin with 50 would be dead by now due to the number of guys 50 has called out, pissed off and insulted. Now he is going to bite the hand that feeds him because he's making money through his own ventures after they've basically groomed him for the spot Em is stepping down from? Seems like for every smart move he does to generate hype, he does an equally stupid one afterwards. It's been going on ever since Cam'ron called into a radio show while Ma$e was on the air and basically called him a joke as an MC, a preacher, a husband and lots more. Ma$e pussied out on the air at the time however DipSet dropped "Take Em To Church" and follow up tracks on the mixtape circuit. Now Mase has been dropped because his last album flopped, he's trying to drop the good guy image he'd established during his time at Bad Boy and wants to use his old Murder Mase schtick and run with G-Unit because they have the image and sales he'd like. I think Mase should just fade away at this point personally. Besides, how many mumbling MCs does one crew need?

Who a show has appearing doesn't matter, the actual quality of the show does. By your logic, Ishtar was a better movie than Swingers because it had Warren Beatty and Dustin Hoffman in it compared to Vince Vaughn and John Favreau. It's not of course and is considered a shitty movie but it's got the better and more versatile talent in it, so obviously it doesn't suck. SD has sucked for a couple of years now, the really decline being after JBL got the belt. As for it's comparison to RAW, just because one pile of shit doesn't reek as bad as the other doesn't mean they both aren't stinking messes.

What do you mean, "starting to suck"? Have you been in a cave for the last 18 months?

Just a note, Alexis Laree didn't have McMahon pay for her implants. She got them earlier this year in the hope she'd be noticed and called up sooner rather than later having got what the rest of the girls have.

Are you fucking kidding me? They are calling themselves the fucking Triple Threat? Candido is now rolling in his grave, Bigelow just had a heart attack and Shane Douglas... well, he's probably having bizarre facial twitches like he always has.

This show just seems to prove the old cliche that the more things change, the more they stay the same. In this instance, they change stations but still put out crap the majority of the time. Also, VKM is not exec producer for the Rock's films anymore. He has a handshake deal with VKM, no contracts, so as such VKM and the WWE are little more than more advertising and exposure for Rock these days.

He was actually on speed and ecstasy. Police found it in his bag.

Is it me or does taker seem to take a 2-3 months off every fall, either returning for a year end PPV or the RR? Does anyone know if he has this vacation time wrote into his contract? Also, between Taker, Muhammad Hassan and Paul Bearer being killed, why aren't any wrestlers spending time in jail while they will get arrested for so much as touching a heel GM?

The WWE taking a staff member from another Fed/Company does not mean they fear that company. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It is not a matter of fear. It is a matter of spite. Over on Sherdog many are rejoicing now Goldie is going, as it means we may get Eddie Bravo on commentary who is more than capable of commentating on groundwork. As long as he can get the fighters names right this name, we'll be better off without Goldberg. Brian basically said what I was going to. You don't offer someone with no previous experience in the field an "insane" amount of money for the Hell of it.

Not anymore, no. Edge is trying to reconcile with his wife... probably because he doesn't want her taking half his money.

Goldberg isn't a great MMA announcer though. They already have Styles under contract so why not just use him as he'd already be familiar with the moves? Otherwise Goldie will just end up being like Schiavone. If anything they should try get Mauro from PRIDE, he is already doing Jim Ross trademarks like calling moves wrong and screaming until his throat is hoarse when someone he likes wins.

If according to Vince they don't consider the UFC to be competition, why exactly are they planning to take one of their announcers? WWE logic is funny.

How about what Brock could do in New Japan, seeing as how it looks almost certain he is wrestling there? How about what this means to anyone else in the future who wants a release from WWE while under contract? How about what this means is the actual strength of the non-complete clauses in WWE contracts, as opposed to their perceived strength. There is a lot to talk about here, if people were able or willing to use their brains. I know that's a tall order for a lot of people around here, but give it a try. That doesn't stop the people who have common sense from using it. Assuming Brock has obtained some kind of release from WWE, it's logical to conclude it allows him to compete in Japan, and just as logical to conclude that, given how WWE feels, it precludes Brock wrestling in North America. Common sense says he'll be rusty to some degree. That much should be obvious. Assuming Brock is wrestling in New Japan beyond the Dome event and is there for any length of time, and that you yourself have said New Japan is in decline, is it really that hard to work out what New Japan's plans for Brock would be? Really, is it? This thread belongs in the Other Promotions folder, because it deals with Brock wrestling in a promotion that isn't WWE. All the fluff has been removed. Let's make sure it stays that way. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Brock's release is different to anyone else seeking one. He was not being paid by them but forced to stay in a contractual agreement that was unreasonable. I doubt WWE will be foolish enough to write such a clause in ever again. Also since Brock apparently wants to participate in "realistic wrestling" I doubt he has any desire to wrestle on American soil right now. There isn't much for Brock to do in NJPW except squash some people, get the belt and then drop the belt. Considering the photo shows him standing next to a ring he may come back full force, he may not. No one will know until he actually performs. NJPW's plans change every 6 months. It is hard to predict what they will do in the long term at any time these days, although if they are paying Brock the wage WWE would not obviously he is going to wear the belt at some point otherwise it will have been a poor investment. Until further booking details or more press releases are available to indicate what direction NJPW actually want to go in with Lesnar, given their erratic booking in the last few years, I'd say it is somewhat hard to predict which way they wish to use Brock. For all we know he could end up on a K-1 HEROS show to try legitimise his image in Japan or he could bomb and be released. We'll have to see how things turn out. If you have a crystal ball, please feel free to use it and enlighten us.

What else is there to actually talk about? The documents relating to his release are sealed. It's likely he will win the IWGP title at some point, even though the promotion is in decline. We have no clue as to his ability to perform pro wrestling right now since it has been a fair while since he has tried. He has changed his image and that is the most noticable thing to address seeing as there is little to no chance of us finding anything else out in the immediate future regarding NJPW's plans for him or the direction Brock wants to go in.

Batista was never an All American wrestler. Brock was. As was Lashley. There is more in common between Lashley and Brock than Brock and Batista.

People that actually think the WWE are giving his actual weight are being stupid. Do you people think Shawn Michaels actually weighs 230? I'm guessing they are employing the usual policy of "add 25lbs and 3 inches" so while he probably has put on a lot of muscle, I doubt he's actually what they are promoting him as stats wise. They advertise Rey Mysterio 15lbs over and he is the smallest guy on the roster and Kane wears lifts in his boots to appear taller, so I doubt they are being honest in regards to Lashley either.

It also looks as though on each side medal where the names are, the listings correspond to the title holders from the continent depicted on the globe at the top of each medal. It does look a lot like the Undisputed title the WWE had a while back except with some gems like Cena's current belt. The massive lettering reminds me of UFC's titles.

No. I don't believe so. Interesting part of the new Rhino interview in Power Slam magazine "I came up with the Arab American gimmick. Stephanie asked me in 2004 why I was growing my beard and I told her I wanted to change my gimmick to someone who had converted to Islam. I'm from Detroit, Michigan and we have a huge Muslim population here so I know all about this and could research it properly. I wanted to convert, like Muhammad Ali did, change my name and do stuff with American heroes like Sgt. Slaughter. Easy heat. I had lots of ideas and everyone loved it, including Jim Rosss and Pat Patterson, but the writers said it was too touch of a subject to use religion. Then they did the whole Muhammad Hassan and Daivari thing..." Seems Haas and Rhino are singing the same song about the writers. There's a few other interesting things he mentions in the interview such as his heat with Bruce Pritchard, what Vince said to him after the match in New York where the fans chanted boring and Vince brought out the divas, what his original gimmick was meant to be coming into the WWF and his thoughts on the "invisible camera" during backstage angles, if anyone cares I might scan it in later.

that or meth <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He doesn't want to steal Christy Hemme's gimmick though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's probably E or Speed considering how smiley and bouncy she is.

I converse with pro and amateur fighters, both MMA and boxing. I myself drop 17lbs over 5 weeks to compete in submission grappling/Brazilian jiujitsu and in doing so stick to a strict diet. I talk to two nutritionists regularly, one in Spain I met at the BTT camp I attended a couple of months ago who regulated what the meals would comprise of every night and one over in America. Over on Sherdog there is a dieting forum I check out often for new ideas often. I may not be a nutritionist but I would like to think I know what it takes to lose weight. Cardio burns fat. If you are already substantially overweight as Show appears to be, you have to do a lot more than eating right to lose weight. Considering Wight has hands the size of dinner plates already, eating proportionate portions isn't really going to help. I'm not saying it is not possible for him to lose weight. My point is he should have made an effort before he got this big and before her got so many injuries. If he drops any weight and even gets down to like 460 or something he is still going to be putting a shitload of stress on his bones which will continue to impede his "athletic" ability. As for the eating more often thing, have you heard of the warrior diet?

The average nutrionist will also advise a person eat portions the size of a clenched fist. Considering the size of Show's hands, that probably wouldn't work in practice. If he was in actual athletic shape keeping a high metabolism would be conducive to keeping toned and eating regularly would prevent muscle being used for fuel rather than food or fat. Given he needs to lose weight eating more often isn't going to help. Maybe food substitutes would be more suitable although arguably less filling. I doubt he's going to maintain a healthy diet on the road otherwise he would have done so already and took the hint after he was sent to OVW twice that they didn't want him around unless he dropped weight. Ross has been talking the same shit for 5 years now and nothing has changed, I really doubt it is going to now. Even if he did get back down to the weight he was in WCW somehow, he has back, elbow and knee problems now that restrict his mobility so I think it is too little, too late. He was in the best shape of his life when he was first entering WCW and didn't smoke. I doubt he could even get back down to that weight. Will power keeps people from binging, not eating more often. Research into the Atkins diet has actually revealed eating things in a certain order is more effective in giving your body the impression it is full rather than hungry rather than any strict diet plan.

I'm aware of diet plans, however when someone is already 500lbs they are probably better off having 3-4 meals and doing lots of cardio rather than eating even more, especially given that Wight must have an irregular workout routine due to travelling all the time. Are you 500lbs?

So he is going to change his diet by eating more often? Breakfast, Brunch, Lunch, Dinner, Dessert.. how many other meals are there in even a heavy diet? I wish he'd stop pimping Show. The guy is going to be fat and stay fat until his fat contract runs out, get over it JR. He was saying the same stuff 5 fucking years ago and Show's even bigger than he was then. How many years does it take for JR to give up hope? Ask the booking team, smartarse. I doubt Chavo wanted to be playing this shitty character. They have had two mediocre matches already, how many more must we endure? Great, the wifebeating broken necked gammy kneed racist is coming back for even longer to squash even more people. Hooray. Maybe he'll face the fake hipped fake kneed orangegoblin a verbal battle of "what"s and "brother"s and "dude"s. Whataschmuck. That explains a lot. Probably shortly after Cornette got revenge for Ross on Ferrara.

Except Ross -is- delusional, at least in the wrestlers he thinks have "talent". Just how many times did he call Billy Gunn the best athlete in the business, any way? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But he beat The Rock in a 100 metre sprint, clearly that means he is a great talent... Striker parodoied Warrior and Sandman on the indie circuit... he probably just dug out the same tassels.

FOR VINCE MCMAHON, THE HUNDRED MILLION Dollar Man, Jimmy (Superfly) Snuka made for a challenging tag-team partner. The World Wrestling Federation’s second-most-popular star in the early eighties, Snuka was an illiterate immigrant from Fiji, prone to bouts with the law that threatened his green card, and a drug abuser who often missed bookings. During a Middle East tour in the summer of 1985, fellow wrestlers say, customs officials in Kuwait caught him with controlled substances taped to his body, and he was allowed to leave the country only after some fancy footwork. But Snuka’s near-Midnight Express experience in the Persian Gulf was child’s play compared to what happened on May 10, 1983. That night, after finishing his last match at the WWF TV taping at the Lehigh County Agricultural Hall in Allentown, Pennsylvania, he returned to Room 427 of the George Washington Motor Lodge in nearby Whitehall to find his girlfriend of nearly a year, Nancy Argentino, gasping for air. Two hours later, this 23-year-old wrestling fan – who'd worked as a dentist’s assistant in Brooklyn and dropped out of Brooklyn Community College to travel with Snuka – was pronounced dead at Allentown Sacred Heart Medical Center of “undetermined craniocerebral injuries.” “Upon viewing the body and speaking to the pathologist, I immediately suspected foul play and so notified the district attorney,” Lehigh County Coroner Wayne Snyder told me on a recent trip to Allentown. In ’83, Snyder was deputy to Coroner Robert Weir. Yet no charges were filed in the case, no coroner’s inquest was held, and no evidence was presented to a grand jury. Officially the case is still open – meaning Argentino’s death was never ruled either an accident or a homicide – though the original two-month-long investigation has been inactive for nine years. Under Pennsylvania’s unusually broad exemptions from freedom of information laws, the Whitehall Township Police Department has so far refused my requests for access to the file. Of particular interest would be two documents: the autopsy and the transcript of the interrogation of Snuka immediately thereafter. One local official involved in the investigation, as well as one of the Argentino family’s lawyers, told me the autopsy showed marks on the victim other than the fractured skull. And former Whitehall police supervisor of detectives Al Fitzinger remembered that the forensic pathologist, Dr. Isadore Mihalakis, confronted Snuka to ask him why he’d waited so long before calling an ambulance. Gerald Procanyn, the current supervisor of detectives, who worked on the case nine years ago, maintained that Snuka cooperated fully with investigators after being informed of his right to have a lawyer present, and was accompanied only by McMahon. Another investigator, however, saw things differently; he said Snuka invoked his naïve jungle-boy wrestler’s gimmick as a way of playing dumb. “I’ve seen that trick before,” the investigator said. “He was letting McMahon act as his mouthpiece.” Another curious circumstance was the presence at the interrogation of William Platt, the county district attorney. According to experts, chief prosecutors rarely interview suspects, especially in early stages of investigations, for the obvious reason that they may become witnesses and hence have to recuse themselves from handling the subsequent trials. Detective Procanyn gave me the following summary of Snuka’s story: On the afternoon before she died, Snuka and his girlfriend were driving his purple Lincoln Continental from Connecticut to Allentown for the WWF taping. They’d been drinking, and they stopped by the side of the road – the spot was never determined, but perhaps it was near the intersection of Routes 22 and 33 – to relieve their bladders. In the process, Argentino slipped on mossy ground near a guard rail and struck the back of her head. Thinking nothing of it, she proceeded to drive the car the rest of the way to the motel (Snuka didn’t have a driver’s license) and, after they checked in, picked up take-out food at the nearby City View Diner. Snuka had no idea she was in any kind of distress until he returned late that night from the matches at the Agricultural Hall. Procanyn said Snuka’s story never wavered, and no contradictory evidence was found. Curiously, contemporary news coverage, such as the front page of the next day’s Allentown Morning Call, made no mention of a scenario of peeing by the roadside; it focused, instead, on the question of whether Argentino fell or was pushed in the motel room. Nine years later the reporter, Tim Blangger, vividly recalled that at one point in his interview of Procanyn, the detective grabbed him by the shoulders in a speculative reenactment of how Snuka might have shoved the woman more strongly than he intended. Procacyn also claimed to have no knowledge of any subsequent action by the Argentino family, except for a few communications between a lawyer and D.A. Platt over settling the funeral bill. In fact, the Argentinos commissioned two separate private investigations, and it’s difficult to believe that Procanyn was unaware of them. The first investigator, New York lawyer Richard Cushing, traveled to Allentown, conducted extensive interviews, and aggressively demanded access to medical records and other files. “It was a very peculiar situation,” Cushing told me. “I came away feeling Snuka should have been indicted. The police and the D.A. felt otherwise. The D.A. seemed like a nice enough person who wanted to do nothing. There was fear, I think, on two counts: fear of the amount of money the World Wrestling Federation had, and physical fear of the size of these people.” Even so, Cushing declined to represent the family in a wrongful-death civil suit against Snuka. The lawyer cited the fact that Snuka and Argentino weren’t married, that they didn’t have children, and that she wasn’t working, which would make it difficult to establish loss of consortium. “Moreover, Vince McMahon made it clear to me that her reputation would be besmirched. As a lawyer, I had to determine if a contingency [fee] was in order; my business decision, not my moral judgment, was no. The family wasn’t pleased. They had a typical working-class family’s anger that justice wasn’t done.” Through the generosity of Nancy Argentino’s father’s boss, the family then retained a Park Avenue law firm. The report filed by its private investigator shows that Snuka was as creative outside the ring as he was inside it. To the Whitehall police officer who responded to the first emergency call, Snuka said “he and Nancy were fooling around outside the motel room door when he inadvertently pushed Nancy and she fell striking her head.” An emergency room nurse heard him state that “they were very tired and they got into an argument resulting in an accidental pushing incident. Ms. Argentino fell back and hit her head.” In the official police interrogation, Snuka first floated the peed-on-the-roadside theory. Finally, in a meeting with the hospital chaplain, he said he and Argentino had been stopped by the side of the road and had a lovers’ quarrel: “He accidentally shoved Ms. Argentino who then fell backwards hitting her head on the pavement. They then arrived at the motel and went to bed. The next morning Ms. Argentino complained that she was ill and stayed in bed…. When he came home from the taping, he observed that Ms. Argentino was clearly in bad shape.” In 1985 the Argentinos obtained a $500,000 default judgment against Snuka in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia. The family never collected a dime; Snuka’s lawyers withdrew from the case, stating that they hadn’t been paid, and Snuka filed an affidavit claiming he was broke and unemployed and owed the IRS $75,000 in back taxes. Since ’83, the 49-year-old Snuka has been in and out of rehab centers and has wrestled off and on both in Japan and throughout this country. His original WWF stint extended two and a half years past Argentino’s death; his most recent ended earlier this year. According to the wrestling grapevine, he’s now trying to promote independent shows in, of all places, Salt Lake City, but my efforts to track him down there were unsuccessful. Proving negligence, of course, is different than proving involuntary manslaughter or murder. But critics of the criminal investigation find fishy the failure of the police to examine seriously Snuka’s history of drug abuse and violence against women. Former wrestling great Buddy Rogers, who’d been hired by McMahon to serve as Snuka’s TV “manager” and to get him to important matches on time, said he stopped driving with the Superfly after he brazenly snorted coke when they were in the car together. “Jimmy could be a sweet person, but on that stuff he was totally uncontrollable,” said Rogers, who was also Snuka’s neighbor on Coles Mill Road in Haddonfield, New Jersey. Snuka’s wife, with whom he had four children, befriended Rodgers’ wife. “Jimmy used to beat the shit out of that woman,” Rogers said. “She would show up at our house, bruised and battered. But she couldn’t leave him – he had her hooked on the same junk he was using.” Nancy Argentino’s younger sister remembered once being threatened by Snuka when they were alone at the family’s home in Flatbush. “I could kick you and put my hands around your throat and nobody would know,” he allegedly said. After Nancy’s death, family members said, they received a series of phone calls from a woman who identified herself as a former Snuka girlfriend who’d tried to warn Nancy away from him. Snuka, said the woman, had once broken her ribs, and had a thing about pushing women back against walls. Finally, there was the incident involving Snuka and Argentino at a Howard Johnson’s in Salina, N.Y., outside Syracuse, just three months before Allentown. The motel owner, hearing noise from their room, called the police, who found Snuka and Argentino running naked down the hallway. It took eight deputy sheriffs and a police dog to subdue Snuka. Argentino sustained a bruise of her right thumb. Snuka pleaded guilty to violent felony assault with intent to cause injury, received a conditional discharge on counts of third-degree assault, harassment, and obstruction of a government official, and donated $1,500 to a deputy sheriffs’ survivors’ fund. Whitehall police later decided this was all the result of “a nervous desk clerk,” Detective Procanyn told me. * * * ACCORDING TO ATTORNEY CUSHING, MCMAHON MADE a remark at one point in their discussions that was at once insightful and chilling. “Look, I’m in the garbage business,” the promoter said. “If you think I’m going to be hurt by the revelation that one of my wrestlers is really a violent individual, you’re mistaken.” Six months after Nancy Argentino died, the Village Voice ran a prescient article entitled “Mat Madness” by the late columnist Arthur Bell, weather vane of the lower-Manhattan gay-arts demimonde. After attending a Madison Square Garden show headlined by a bout between Superfly Snuka and The Magnificent Muraco, Bell, who knew next to nothing about wrestling, commented on the spectacle’s graphic references to bodily functions and on its barely sublimated undercurrents of sexual dominance and sadomasochism. “Take my word,” Bell declared, “by the end of 1984 wrestling will be the most popular sport in New York since mugging.” He concluded with a vignette at the Garden stage exit, where a swarm of fans, led by a woman named Bea from West Orange, converged to taunt the wrestlers as they emerged in their street clothes. “Hey, Superfly,” Bea shouted to Snuka. “You goddam fuckin’ murderer. When are you gonna kill another girl?” Credit: http://www.cactusjack.co.uk/superfly.html There you go, Dangerous A.