Steve J. Rogers

Oh good grief! Sure this will be classic Wrestle Crap material

<{POST_SNAPBACK}> They are also cheering the FACE CHARACTER not the real life person. And last time I checked the Face character Hulk Hogan is still one of the most well known and beloved in the history of pro wrestling I mean many people still invision Hulk Hogan when they hear the words "pro wrestling" You know, some people just plain enjoy being marks. Does it matter that Terry Bolliea sides with the way the things went down in Montreal? No, not really because he had nothing to DO WITH MONTREAL! Just a guy offering an opinion about one of the major events in pro wrestling history Steve

Yeah, no explaintion was ever given. Credible just defected and no reason was given to why X-Pac and Albert split. Not that anyone cared of course

When was Flair WCW Tag champion? Was it during the dark ages? Because I dont recall him holding it... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think back when it was in the NWA days, Flair never won the tag title in "WCW" Steve

You are not wrong. The plan was for Hunter v Nash at Summerslam. I believe the idea then was for Hunter to go through the nWo until finally facing Shawn. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not only that, part of the reason the whole plan was scrapped and redone was because HHH wasn't drawing as a face (and when you think about it, the gimmick HHH has doesn't lend itself to being a full blown face the way most wrestlers's gimmicks can) so they'd had to turn HHH heel (plus HHH likes being a heel better) You know what really would have been sweet though. That Raw that Eric Bischoff debuts as the Raw GM, he hugs Vince, Vince gets out of the ring and starts walking up the ramp as Bischoff cuts this promo: ERIC: OH YEAH! I'm back baby! Hey Vince, ya might want to stick around for this. Because my first move as GM of Raw? Is to BRING BACK THE NEW WORLD ORDER! (Vince is completely shocked as he stands at the top of the ramp, so shocked that he doesn't see HBK behind him (with an nWo shirt on of course) HBK taps Vince's shoulder and delievers Sweet Chin Music and starts doing crotch chops) You see Vince, you thought you can just disband the nWo just by saying "Hey I'm disbanding the nWo. I brought them in, and now I don't need them" Well you are wrong Vince! Kevin Nash, Hulk Hogan, Scott Hall? They aren't THE nWo. They are vital cogs of course, but I, ERIC BISCHOFF, AM THE NWO! And to Triple H. Shawn Michaels' threat still stands. Join this Sunday, or prepared to be conqured! HIT THE MUSIC.

Don't know where the post vanished Okay, song comes from a bumper on a sports talk radio show here in NYC. I can't make out the first part of the snippet quite clear, I think it has something to do with sports and the last part of the snippet before it cuts out the singer sings "...the messages in the media..." The song sounds like an up-tempo late 80's easy listen vocalist song (but its probably a newish song though) And for some reason the host thinks its called "I Am The Man" cause he said "Hey, its the Terrell Owens song!" So I Google it, and came up with nothing, so can someone help me out here Thanks Steve

Good question...

I always had a problem with the "Yeah that means you are a 16 time loser" agrument as in the case of Flair, a number of times he was stripped. But I guess the guy cutting the promo isn't going to go "Yeah that means you are a six...err...ummm... eh...Okay, you are a 14 time LOSER!" You want to take it kayfabed, well Ali is what a three time champ? You can't call him a "three time loser" though since he was stripped of his first title. And last I checked Ali still ranks as a consenus number one all time great in rankings of heavyweights Personally, I like the Austin argument, but I'd go more with the Flair spacing as well. Basically I'd take a guy holding it off and on for a long time frame, where it looks like they dominated the field and avenged all his loses. Well untill it starts reaching "Shouldn't the guy drop out of the scene for a while" situation (i.e. Triple H currently) Steve

None at all. Basically it was more a Triple H heel turn rather than HBK turning face. Shawn pops up at the PPV promising Hunter "Fun and Friendship" if he went on Raw so Hunter chose Raw Next night, Bischoff in the opening spot names HBK the manager of HHH. Shawn balks at this idea and its Hunter's job the rest of the night to convince Shawn to stay. And Hunter does by brining out some old D-X gear and the two do a "D-X IS BACK!" promo at the end, only just as Hunter is saying "Lets get ready to SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK IT!" he cuts out of the promo and drills Shawn with a pedigree (in back-to-back weeks the WWF manages to kill dead the nWo and D-X) Next week the show is building to a Shawn-Hunter confrontation over the pedigree (this is the week where Show confronts Shawn) but that doesn't go down because Shawn is taken out in the parking lot. Next week of course Hunter is revealed to be the guy to drill Shawn through a car window and Shawn via tape in Texas delivers the challenge to face Hunter at SummerSlam Steve

Yup, 5 month span. Yeah Shawn was just a spokesperson/manager role. Akin to Bischoff in the old days. The plan there was to build towards Shawn-Hunter in some form though Steve

Hall, Nash, Hogan to start at No Way Out in Feb 2002 Hogan is kicked out after WM turn, X-Pac "rejoins" Nash is still on the shelf wrestling wise but making apperances Big Show gets added just to have a "big man in ring precsence" I guess Hall is fired after "Plane Ride From Hell" Flair turns heel in May I believe and announces Booker T to join the nWo for no apparent reason. Booker's tagteam partner Goldust is in angle of trying to join. New sherrif in town, Kevin Nash brings a returning Shawn Michaels into the nWo to replace Scott Hall. A week later Shawn kicks out Booker, obstensibly to keep Booker a face and continue BookerDust vs nWo angle going This would start a gimmick of Show and Pac having to "win" matches in order to stay in the nWo. Don't remeber if X-Pac was still a member by the end of it though, but one week Show would lose a match and HBK gave him some Sweet Chin Music for it, though he was still in the nWo as HBK said it was "tough love" They actually played up this angle when Shawn turned face a few weeks later where Show wanted to have a face-to-face over the SCM Then the infamous night Nash comes back, only to tear his quad! HBK cuts the final (ever?) nWo promo advising Triple H to accept membership in the nWo (he was a "free agent" at this point) Next week on Raw Vince dissolves the nWo and Eric Bischoff, ironically the brainchild of the gimmick in the first place, debuts as the new Raw GM That I believe was the week before the July 02 PPV where Triple H would "make his decision" between Raw and Smackdown Steve

Just stating what I heard from the Michael Kay radio show (1050 ESPN in NYC 4p-7p) Rumors are swirling that 2 huge names are about to come out, one NL, one AL. The only thing Kay, obviously a Yankee announcer, said was he'd be "dissapointed and crushed" if one of the guys rumored turns out to be one of the guys. Take that for what its worth. Also take this for what its worth as I heard this third hand, but a guy in the NFL (not a star) who is friends with Giambi says that Giambi is definatly back on the juice, but MLB won't suspend him Take both with grains of salt, but putting the dots together, it does point to Giambi Steve

Jason Giambi: To Juice Or Not To Juice... Taking a break from my vacation. Uh don’t worry; I’ll be churning out weekly columns as soon as the NFL season starts so I can make my weekly NFL picks. Oh won’t THAT be fun! Yup. I am a consistent handicapper. Uh, consistently horrid that is. Anyway, rest of Atlanta trip will be up, eh, eventually. But a recent conversation with a soon-to-be Stevens Ducks radio broadcaster (to be heard in a small radius surrounding Hoboken, New Jersey) named “Little Buddy” caused me to return to the blog. I apparently enraged my young friend when I suggested that Jason Giambi could very well be back on an undetectable steroid. However, he said I should stop talking. Well Little Buddy, stop drinking the Yankee Kool-Aid, put down the Pinstripe Colored glasses and start looking at things in a more cynical way. I’m not saying unequivocally Giambi is back on the juice at all, I am saying its easier to say he is than it is to say he is not. Little Buddy brings up the fact that I tried to shoot down his Palmerio-as-career-jucier by bringing up the fact that he played most of his career in band boxes, but that was more to get Little Buddy to think more globally about certain issues. It seems he has not learned how to think globally at all. Fact: Giambi in Oakland was considered one of the best pure hitters in the game, when he was on the juice. Fact: Giambi gets off the juice, and he becomes no better than a Double A hitter. Fact: Giambi is back to being one of the top hitters in the game, maybe back to being one of the best 1Bmen in the game today. Hmmm. Could Jason Giambi, so distraught about how his career was in shambles, how the Yankees were close to sending him down to the minors and/or even releasing him, go back to something, probably an undetectable one, that helped him achieve at such levels in the past? You can not NOT ask that question. Steroids may not be addictive as heroin, or alcohol, cigarettes, cocaine, gambling, or even coffee and chocolates, but it is still a drug. Its still a vice, a crutch. The only time in Giambi’s life where he had it all was when he was using steroids, he gets off steroids and boom, his life is in shambles. Do you see how one can “connect the dots.” Yeah it could have been through dedicated work, it could have been spending less time partying like a rock star (like he was in his roid days), it could have been spending more hours with Don Mattingly, it could have been…etc. But to get back to the same level that he was back in 2000? To swat 14 plus homers in a month as a Yankee for the first time since Mickey Mantle? To get back in such a quick manner when the guy is a now a KNOWN steroid abuser, you simply can not tell me without question he did this cleanly. Little Naïve Buddy, you have a lot to learn about the cynical nature of professional sports. Open your eyes a little, its not all black and white. There are plenty of shades of grey, plenty of questions to be asked. Maybe you won’t necessarily get it all at a Division III school (all the other contributors here went to Division I schools, though I’m starting to wonder about Fairfield) but any issue of sports demand multiple questions, multiple points of view. Its not as cut and dry as cold hard stats. -Steve J. Rogers

During one of Piper's face runs in WCW, going up against Hogan, he came up with a shirt proclaming that he was an Icon, only it was done in acroynm form I.C.O.N. Now, what the hell was that supposed to mean? I Cower Over Nobody eh, I can't come up with too many sentences that make sense with I.C.O.N unless it was parts of words or something Steve

I don't think thats what the gimmick was to entail. Just being an over-frustrated heel saying he hasn't gotten his just due from the fans, backstage, ect, and feelings that he is not only the best in the game, he IS THE GAME! BECAUSE HE IS THAT DAMNED GOOD! Triple H's backstage politics and the right person to shack up with helped the character get the God push By the way, the guy has had "The Game" gimmick for about 8 years now? Thats a long time in this day and age. Sure HHH apologists (if any actually exist on the net) will say he tweaked the gimmick when he and Flair begain their on-screen friendship in 2002, but hey, "The Game" is still his entrance song

Gotta agree with most of the stars of the 80's WWF Hogan, Duggan, JYD, Koko B Ware, Hillbilly Jim, Ultimate Warrior, ect Talk to someone who was a mark back in that day and itsn't really into wrestling since for whatever reason, they'll swear up and down that they were the best ever

What I mean is nothing stood out in terms of flat-out parody of the times. Let me put it this way, it looked like it could have stood on its own in 1975 as a comedy, not as a drama It didn't go out of its way to make fun of styles, the way people talked, pop-culture references, ect. It basically had a look of a 70's buddy cop movie, only as a comedy not a drama Steve

So I'm guessing this is not a "Starsky & Hutch" style remake Thats a shame What I mean is: If a movie is a remake of an old TV show you can either A) Give it a loving tribute to the show and/or genre (i.e. for S&H mid-to-late 70's Buddy Cop movies) B) Be simply a modern style adaptation using current day conventions and such (Honeymooners, Lost In Space) or C) Due a complete full-on parody of the show and its time that makes people wonder "How did I LIKE this back in the day" or "How did anyone LIKE this back in the day" (Brady Bunch) From comments and critics it sounds like C Steve

- By far this is the worst in terms of actual in-ring PBP the "classic" "1...2WEHAVEANEWCHAMPIKICK OUT!" or the many various "blown calls" Do announcers realize that legit sport broadcasters get ridiculed for such bad blown calls? How many times do you chuckle at "IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR, IT IS...Caught at the warning track" Please, it really adds zero to the drama, especially since we SEE the action. In fact, thats another thing, why must PBP guys treat a match like its on radio? No need to "paint the word picture" since WE CAN SEE WHATS GOING ON! I'll come up with more at some point, just wanted to get the ball rolling on this kind of thread Steve

Speaking of Stone Cold, how about the announcer ramming a gimmick down our throats. When Austin ran in on the promo the night after WM Ross calls him "The Always Unpredictable Rattlesnake" Uh Jim, Austin hasn't been truely "unpredictable" since Stone Cold's debut run through his first title run. The only unpredictable thing is, what corny joke will he come up with, or which arm will he deliever the stunner with. Steve

<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'll give you that, but I'm talking about using EVERY second of air time to talk. We are watching the show for the match, not the announcer! Maybe I need to watch boxing to compare (legit announcers as opposed to those paid for by the promotion)

While alot of the out of controll nature of steriods can be blamed on the owners and MLB's hierarchy, its quite unfair to suggest Bush "looked in the other direction" when his players were juicing. You want to say he didn't do anything, fine. You can't say however if he suspected and chose not to know something that he should know. Also in light of how much crap hands on owners like George Steinbrenner and Marge Schott get/got and how much a Fred Wilpon here in New York gets lambasted because he wanted to get "safe" players on his roster it wouldn't surprise me if an owner, especially one with a famous family name, would be a hands off owner.

Well at least we know the draft wasn't rigged! But seriously, this is shades of that arbitration ruling that gave the Flyers Eric Lindros! Always seemed like there has been an Anti-Ranger bias in the NHL in terms of "letting the Rangers completely self destruct" and not letting them get better I don't think this kind of attitude exist anywhere in any other sport. Usually the hatred of other teams in other sports are fans only or just against a specfic person (i.e. Al Davis) not the specfic team Not to sound New York centric but shouldn't the NHL WANT the Rangers to be in the mix? Biggest market in the US, Original Six member and the flagship team in the market If the Rangers are good, then their attendance/ratings are up Ah what the hell, 49 more years untill the next Cup huh? Steve

Does Owen Wilson looks a little like the late Owen Hart? Or at least Hart when he had the floppy hair going Wilson Hart Ah, could be just me looking too much into the fact that they both have/had the scruffy blonde look and a hawkish looking nose Steve

I think they changed their ISP (they were on Fox Sport's server for a while) but google Powerwrestling.com they have lots of WWF/WWE televised recaps Also you can go with The Other Arena and Kayfabe Memories for continued updates along with vintage recaps from Scott Keith, Christopher Robin Zimmerman and others Solies.org is still up but no recaps for a few years now Not sure if Slobberknockercentral.com is still up, sure if you plugged it into archive.org you'll get some classic stuff there from the early years of the Monday Night Wars and the Attitude Era Steve