Steve J. Rogers

I wonder if this means changes to various show pages' staff. Some of them I swear just didn't get it half the time. I.e. some of the Angel stuff for Season 4 was dead wrong (including spoilers for Buffy's finale that included EVERYONE from Angel's cast (including Cordy and Connor) appearing) and that includes tidbits from episodes. Couple of wrong examples: On one episode featuring Faith and Angelus, Faith asked Angelus if he kissed his momma with that mouth (Angelus said a rather filthy word) to which Angelus replied "No, but I ate her with it" and the person running the guide thought it was a reference to a Buffy episode title that same week. Obviosuly it was a reference to Angelus EATING his family which has been mentioned many times on both Buffy and Angel. The second was during the S4 finale, the climax happens in a sporting goods store of an LA mall, naturally Laker and Clipper jerseys would be among the props with "Los Angeles" visable. Well whomever did the guide page thought it was "Angel" on the jerseys! Person was just looking for references where they didn't exist! Steve <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I sort of see it. I believe that line happened in "Salvage," while the Buffy episode that was on during the same week was "The Killer in Me." But it is looking into it way too much. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The line came from Orphus (or whatever its spelled) where Faith and Angelus are sharing a coma inside Angel. That night's episode of Buffy was "Lies My Parents Told Me"' BTW I just checked and it looks like the entire season's guide on TvTome.com has been reworked, no reference to the line or the "Angel jerseys" Neat line though, I'm surprised its not in the quote section though. Both were corrected on the old guide Steve

Here in NY Kittle was on the Michael Kay radio show (4-7 on 1050 ESPN) and Kay puncuated the story by telling how every year the Baseball Assistance Team (BAT that helps those in the baseball family who aren't so fortunate in their post baseball days) goes to the All Star Game to collect various jerseys and such for a silent auction later in the year. The only person Kay says that does not donate to them is Barry Bonds

I wonder if this means changes to various show pages' staff. Some of them I swear just didn't get it half the time. I.e. some of the Angel stuff for Season 4 was dead wrong (including spoilers for Buffy's finale that included EVERYONE from Angel's cast (including Cordy and Connor) appearing) and that includes tidbits from episodes. Couple of wrong examples: On one episode featuring Faith and Angelus, Faith asked Angelus if he kissed his momma with that mouth (Angelus said a rather filthy word) to which Angelus replied "No, but I ate her with it" and the person running the guide thought it was a reference to a Buffy episode title that same week. Obviosuly it was a reference to Angelus EATING his family which has been mentioned many times on both Buffy and Angel. The second was during the S4 finale, the climax happens in a sporting goods store of an LA mall, naturally Laker and Clipper jerseys would be among the props with "Los Angeles" visable. Well whomever did the guide page thought it was "Angel" on the jerseys! Person was just looking for references where they didn't exist! Steve

Why? Because some early results have some injured stars in front, before the cream has a chance to rise to the top? If Nomar is elected to the team, I will be absolutely shocked. Otherwise, there are a few questionable choices, but you are going to get those no matter who votes. The problem isn't the voting group. It is the process. No leading player has less votes than Garciaparra. Most fans are not voting for Nomar Garciaparra. Just counting the top 5 of NL First Basemen, at least 1.2 Million ballots have been cast. I figure the total number counted is somewhere around 1.75 Million. Think about that. That means that just 15% of the voters picked Nomar. 15%! Do you really want to take away fan voting because 15% of the voters picked Nomar? That's silly, particularly since most All-Star voters do not have access to current statistics when making their selections in the ballpark. The problem is that the vote is an unrestrained plurality, and when the process lacks a clear candidate, the vote becomes divided and a player with little to offer besides a name has an advantage. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good point. How many people looking at that ballot in the first few weeks realized that Nomar is A) injured, B) not having a good year and C) there are more worthy canidates (a guy in New York perhaps...) Steve

Give that man a cheroot. Tapping out was introduced both due to the popularity of the UFC, and because the gesture itself was a more animated way of giving up, with tapping out clearly indicating a submission. In kayfabe, verbal quitting to the ref was more ambiguous, and could lead to the misinterpretation of any sound made by the wrestler. The tapping out was designed to prevent any errors when it came to deciding if a wrestler had indeed submitted. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hence the Shea references: So Saturday I go from the Marriott Suites in MidTown Atlanta down to Turner Field to catch Braves and Phillies. Beautiful day, sadly the weather didn't hold, as while it wasn't bad on Sunday, being at a wedding under a tent on an overcast day loses the effect that a tent should have, and a great day for a ballgame. No baseball related gear for me on this day, not that I'd get into serious trouble or anything just didn't pack any Met stuff. Just regular shirt, shorts and shades. First stop, and any baseball historianfan visiting Atlanta should vist this spot, regardless of team you root for, a visit to where 715 landed in old Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium. Had a slight problem locating it as when I asked a security guy "Where is the 715 thing" he thought I was referring to the 755 Club, the Braves Diamond Club equvilant, but eventualy I was able to get the right coordinants. The old sign on top of what is supposed to be the Brave outfield fence circa early 70's. I'm pretty sure the fences were padded by the time the stadium met its demise. In the back there is a wall circumfrence, I'm guessing that is also part of the old ballpark. Standing on the grass I got a nice chill thinking about all the Left Fielders who patrolled that plot of land through the years, and just had to "scale the fence" just for the sheer hell of it! There also is an unmarked monument of home plate at the end of the parking lot, I'm guessing thats where home plate was in the old ball park. Moving on I strolled through Monument Grove on my way to purchase a walk-up ticket. Nice monuments of Aaron, Spahn and Niekro, and of Georgian native Ty Cobb. Picked up a $35 ticket and walked along the retired number monuments of Aaron, Mathews, Spahn, Niekro, Murphy and Jackie Robinson's 42 on the way to the Braves "Hall Of Fame And Museum." Now this puts the Diamond Club lobby to absoulte shame! It has a ton of interesting memoriablilla, representing all three stops the franchise has had. Naturally all the Braves' 1990's success is represented. Tom Glavine's Silver Slugger is residing there, as well as the knee brace Sid Bream wore in his winning slide at home in the 92 NLCS. Also a big updated daily Braves All-Time Leader Board, a display of every Brave in Cooperstown, and a run down of all the Braves in their own franchise hall. That list is: 1999 Hank Aaron Eddie Mathews Phil Niekro Warren Spahn 2000 Dale Murphy Ted Turner 2001 Lew Burdette Ernie Johnson 2002 Bill Bartholomay John Sain 2003 Del Crandall 2004 Kid Nichols Tommy Holmes Skip Caray Pete Van Wieren Pretty decent list, not enough of a Brave follower to argue (What no Biff Porocoba or Rafel Ramierez? Wheres the love for Ozzie Virgill?) As I am want to do first time I'm in a stadium (its a yearly thing here with Shea and Yankee) I strolled around each level to soak in the ambivance of the place, for Shea and Yankee its more to see what new stuff has been added since the previous fall. Wandering around the concourse about an hour before game time, I caught a glimpse of a Caribbiean music festival which was cool. Made me realize that I was missing a Jazz festival in Piedmont the same day, but you can't do everything. Walked into a place called "The Chop House" which at first I thought was a clever name for "The Club House" and was a team shop. Nope. I did in fact walk into the sports bar down the right field line! Deciding "Why not" I sat down to chow down on some lunch. Just a plain cheeseburger and fries. For some reason I wasn't in a southern cooking mood. In fact, I didn't eat one barbcued food all weekend. Very strange. Anyway, I soon found out that Turner Field has its very own micro brew. Tomahawk. A very tasty amber brew, brewed by Budweiser especially for Turner Field. Again, if someone is listening at either Shea or Yankee Stadium... Interestingly enough, after eating I noticed on the other side of the concorse there is a kiosk in the form of an old fashioned Southern hickory B-B-Q shack with Skip Carey's and Pete Van Weirn's name on it. Very cool! Too bad I allready ate or I could say I ate at Skip and Pete's HOF BBQ Shack. Walked upstairs after the meal, and ventured to the Coca-Cola pavilion in Left-Center. Now this is a good spot to watch a ballgame! Kind of like being up in Boston's Monster Seats I guess. Also kid friendly sprinting path is up there, as well as large Coke padded chairs. Very cool place. Made my way back down to my seats, right along the right field line, just to the right of the 1st base bag. When Chipper Jones was up I just couldn't help myself and starting saying "LAAAAAAAAAAA-RRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYY!" Couple of young girls in front looked back at me and wondered what I was saying. I said "Thats his real name!" Not sure if they understood what I said! Pretty pedestrian game. Phils took an early lead, couple of Jason Michaels homers. Brave miscues had Brave fans on the agravated side. Actually I was pretty impressed with the crowd. It was the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend and they had a pretty decent crowd, just a shade under 35,000. Atlanta is suposedly a dead town during the major weekends as most dwellers travel to shores, Florida, the Carolinas, ect. To illustrate that point, I was at a local rock band do an outside gig at a sushi bar in Buckhead and there was no crowd. Not a bunch of stragglers, no crowd. Just patrons eating. I basically had a private concert and had a lenthy conversation with the lead singer the entire night! Unfortunatly I had to leave after the 7th in order to prepare for a rehearsal dinner so I can't tell how Brave fans react after a loss. But overall a pretty decent/knowledgeable crowd that was into the game. Got a kick out of some of the in-between inning stuff, the usual fare, but it seemed like they did more interactive stuff than the Mets and Yanks do. "Thank God I'm A Country Boy" is the post Take Me Out To The Ballgame song by the way. There are alot of games, but since they were all baseball related I'll give them a pass. Major problem with the Cartoon Network stuff though, thats too much "Isn't the game enough entertainment for little ones?" for me (i.e. the Nickelodeon stuff at Shea in the mid-1990's) Well I'll give the ballpark 5 stars. Yankee Stadium is still the place for history though. Something to do with 26 flags I guess. Okay, 3 down, 27 to go... Steve Rogers

Its at the tail end of a promo cut on Stephanie, I was thinking about it over the weekend talking to someone about a cheap and brutal strip club in Atlanta, the Clermount Lounge. Speaking of Atlanta Strip Clubs. Quite an ironic postscript to the infamous Gold Club, its now a Church of God Don't ask, thats the religion, God. Not sure of the official denomination or anything but thats what is in the building now Steve

HAHA Not sure if having an office staff would have helped the cause. WWF/WCW are/were conglomorates at the time of the Monday Night Wars so they could afford having a fully fledged Back Office Any fledgling indy or indy that wants to step up to the big boys (or big boy now) just can't afford setting up shop in a town with an in house (or even independant contractors) staff of behind the scenes guys. Not for a while at least and ECW was no where near that stage by 2001 Steve

Dennis Rodman called Lex Luger "Lex Luthor" To be fair, I'm not certain this should be considered a slip up though (sure Rodman was in "no condition to perform" most of his apperances in WCW but still). Hogan, even as a heel, had himself booked as a "Superman" type of character and at the time the NBC/NBA PR machine were hyping Jordan/Pippen and Rodman as "Superman (Jordan) Batman (Pippen) and Rodman!" So it may have been a legit blast at Luger Steve

Because Han is supposed to shoot 1st, dammit. Dammit. 1) Han shooting first defines the character of Han Solo as a quick thinker in tight situations, Greedo shooting first just makes it seem that he is a lucky bastard 2) It hit me watching the DVDs, but there is a scene in Jedi, not sure if this was meant AS a call back, but when Han is hovering over a supposedly injured Leia at the bunker enterance, a Trooper is about to arrest them, Han sees Leia is playing possum and has a blaster ready and they share another "I love you." "I know." moment, instantly making Han realize that Leia has his way of thinking. Not sure if that was meant as a call back to Han shooting first, but it did give me a bit of a call back vibe Steve

Just got back from ROTS and something hit me, I don't know why, maybe because I've been thinking about my High School days recently or what, but is it me, or does the Prequel Trilogy seem very much like a standard Shakespearean tragedy? Think about it most of the main characters in the PT die or are forever changed, evil turns are made by making choices with good intentions, tragic flaws lead to epic downfalls, ect I don't know, maybe just too much Shakespeare on the brain... Steve

So when you're in your 30s/40s you want your parents coming over unannounced all the time? Sitting right there while you argue with your wife and throwing their 2 cents in? My problem was that they never knocked, they just came right in. I mean, it's Ray's fault for giving them keys, but still. Have some courtesy. In real life you would lock the doors, make demands, ect Last time I checked its a SIT-COM Also would a real set of parents be THAT over the top?

It suits the show IMO. I don't think they ever tried to be "BIG EVENT" style or "MUST SEE" the way shows that popular and that long running tend to be, so it goes out the way it always been There wasn't any real arch to the final season that needed to be tied up, no loose ends that needed to be taken care of. Sure it would have been nice to see a "Ray and Deb Move Away" episode thats heavy on the tissue scale and all, but that wouldn't really fit the concept of the show (I mean really are the parents THAT bad? Sure they are over the top in a sit-com way but still its liveable) The show defiantly flew under the radar for a show that popular and long lasting so I guess it was fiting Steve

Phil Niekro being the last guy to win and lose 20 in the same year Damned impossible to emass 40 decisions in a year anymore so Knuksie's "accomplishment" seems pretty safe

Have to qualify it as a nine-inning game though I can see a 5hr night in an extra inning game though

This is John Smoltz's 16th season with the Atlanta Braves. To be fair, Smoltz started in the Tigers chain, never made it to the majors, but was traded in a "prospect for aging veteran" deadline deal for Doyle Alexander Steve

I think Penny Hardaway was the only person who thought he could run the league. I remember him thinking he would lead the league in scoring once Shaq left because he would get more shots. Dude, don't forget the whole advertizing campaign with L'il Penny (played by Chris Rock) You don't get that obnoxious of a campaign if you aren't thought of as being "The Next Big Thing"

Okay this is the most inane statement I've ever read. Who the hell cares if Mick liked to party the guy was one of the three best players of his era. Saying he didnt live up to the hype in any way, shape, or form is asinine. I agree, but we are talking about athletes who were destined for greatness and never quite lived up Mantle was destined for uber-greatness and wound up still being an absoulte icon that trancended pop culture in the 1950's and 1960's, the Elvis Presley of baseball, but never quite fullfilled being "Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio all rolled into one" Just brought him up as an example, even he'd probably put himself on the list Steve

This had me chuckling this morning. I'm listening to Warner Wolf on ESPN Radio in New York, and he and a caller are talking about why Jason Giambi can't be forced to the minors, and Warner is telling the caller (and the audience) about what Yogi Berra told him in an interview done last week (for Yogi's 80th birthday) and Warner says Yogi stated that Casey Stengel had sent down Mickey Mantle and obviously that was twisted into a "If Mickey Mantle was sent down, so should Giambi!" type of argument. Umm, one slight problem, Mickey Mantle was sent down all right (very famously in fact) in his ROOKIE YEAR of 1951! He was brought back up and never spent another day in minor league baseball for the rest of his 18 year career (not even rehab assignments) So you can't even USE Mantle as part of the "Famous Player X from a different time period (pre union) was sent down so why can't Current Player X who is playing crappy be forced down" argument! Someone get a fact checker on these radio shows! HA

Not the point of the thread, but baseball is much different than football and basketball in that regard. Comparing the same situation in other sports is like apples and oranges on several levels -Caps on spending tend to put clamps on what you can actually do in terms of trades -Can't work out a deal so the only other option is flat out cutting while a player can return from the minors Anyway the point of the thread is broadcasters not checking facts...

Don't be surprised if Reyes, Wright and Floyd ride the wave of Carlos Beltran and Mike Piazza getting in the lineup Maybe not in the lineup, but very strong showings at their positions Don't be surprised if Kazuo breaks into the top 5 at 2B either Steve

This wont happen but this would be a great way to end the film After the last shot you dissolve into a scene of Luke (Mark Hamill of course) a few days after the destruction of the Death Star II on Tatooine over the graves of Owen and Beru You pan out and see Anakin (Hayden Christansen of course) in Force Ghost form standing over, so it appears that the entire PT has been a conversation between Luke and Anakin on Tatooine Last words of course from Anakin as he dissolves back into the Force "Son, the Force will be with you, always"

The point is, Mantle wasn't MANTLE yet when it happened. If this was the 1959 Mantle (roughly the same point Giambi is at in his career) then you have a point, but he was still a rawboned rookie Steve

...did anything in ECW ever look official? (Besides the magazine...that was pretty well done) Good point!

Ummm, shouldn't the photos on the page look "official" and not like fan submitted photos or other "unlicenced" sources Steve