Steve J. Rogers

Okay, I see your point, probably on the level of HIAC I type of match Steve

Thats why you can hang a Mantle tag on him. One of the all-time greats, but never as great as people thought he might have been Mantle's a Hall of Famer and an icon, but imagine if he had stayed healthy and lived cleaner Thats the point Steve

Well I'm not putting it in context Sure, in the grand scheme of things its epic, but as a stand alone...

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The Honeymooners? A Guy and Girl a Protocol Droid and A Wookie

I mentioned this in the "Wrestling Misconceptions" thread! Hogan first mentions it (or as far as I can tell) in that A&E Wrestling documentary about 8-9 years ago but I think he said "soon after" You know, its quite possible after the cameras stopped rolling Hogan realized he said days and corrected himself. Having never seen cribs, I doubt there is much editing going on that its all just "off the cuff" and considering how "out of it" the producers must be they never bothered to double check and "reshoot" Steve

Good Lord, wonder how many insults Leia and Han threw back and forth during that time Or if they ever continued that kiss Threepio cut into Steve

Gotta say, just watched ANH and ESB again, and I don't know about rating the two climatic battles: Vader vs Kenobi Big dud here maybe even negative stars, even in light of A) Prowse and Guinessiss having no idea of how to even fence and B) Lucas not yet knowing how a saber duel should go I mean Erol Flynn circa 1930 was better than this crap! It looked like two old guys going back and forth with no real "action" and just Vader looking for the opportunity to strike at Kenobi Vader vs Luke I Overrated! Maybe two stars tops for the psychological job, especially the end promo which is one of the most epic promos in the genre's history, but Vader takes what only one bump? And he no sells it! Luke was bumping like a Mofo and selling it like a champ. Their matchup in Jedi is much better Steve

This may tick alot of people off, but you kind of have to put this guy on the list: Would this guy have had the kind of career he was hyped to have had he; A) Stayed healthy. Perpetual knee problems would hamper him throughout his life. Still one of the fastest guys in the game, but would never be the same after tripping on that drangage divit in left field and B) Lived alittle bit cleaner. He would always admit, right to his final days, that he could have been so much better had he not believed he only had 40 some years to be alive (his dad, brother and I think one of his sons all died very young by the same disease) and not been such the hard liver that he was and taken care of himself better Who am I talking about? Mickey Charles Mantle

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Going back to the front page with the Donnie Moore game (Game 5 86 ALCS) there is a misconception that the homer led directly to Moore's suicide. While it played a part in his depression he was quite financially troubled and had a slew of personal demons that he was battling

I think its just a personal and team pride thing than anything. It doesn't get listed on a plaque or anything (as the player wouldn't play a game) but its just a "ceromonial thing" Steve

I think we were just talking righties but yeah...

I was a caller to a Fairfield University radio sports-talk show in 1999 and the host asked me, "Ryan greatest RH of alltime?" and my answer was "Ummmm, no. Probably not even top 20" and I proceeded to run off a list of great RH in the Hall like Seaver, Johnson, Gibson, Pete Alexander, Mathewson, even threw Jim Palmer in the mix That shut the guy up Steve Not even top 20? I don't know about that. I was thinking quickly, yeah Ryan might crack top ten if I really thought it through, I was trying to "show off" though Steve

I was a caller to a Fairfield University radio sports-talk show in 1999 and the host asked me, "Ryan greatest RH of alltime?" and my answer was "Ummmm, no. Probably not even top 20" and I proceeded to run off a list of great RH in the Hall like Seaver, Johnson, Gibson, Pete Alexander, Mathewson, even threw Jim Palmer in the mix That shut the guy up Steve

D'OH! Don't ask, I was thinking about that three year stretch when the Yanks and Giants were in the WS every year (Giants won the first two) and I thought it started in 20, not 21. D'OH! Actually the misconception is more Ruth's HRs saved baseball after the Black Sox scandal, maybe it did, but as you said he had a great year before the scandal broke Also I'm sure many people think the "Eight Men Out" were suspended right after the 1919 series when they all played in 1920 and Ed Cicotte and Lefty Williams (two pitchers suspended) were actually two of the 4 Sox to win 20 in 1920, (along with Dickie Kerr and HOFer Red Faber) the last before Jim Palmer, Dave McNally, Mike Cuellar and Pat Dobson did it for the O's Actually that may be another misconception, seems like everytime I hear about the 71 Orioles it seems like they are the only team since the turn of the 20th century to have 4 20 game winners

I think I speak for everyone here, If this movie even remotley sucks, George Lucas has HELL TO PAY!

Boston wasn't cursed. The Red Sox were cursed. That is, if you buy into that bullshit. But the city itself- nowhere near cursed. The Celtics won 16 rings, obviously what the Pats have done, and the Sox. BTW- Bruins made the playoffs last year, too. Not really a disappointing season, if you ask me. I'm not bitching, that's for damn sure. I don't hear many people bitching anymore, actually- so it's kind of a moot point to make. Anyway- misconception. The Red Sox have won 1 World Series to the Yankees 26. They've actually won 6. And it seems to me that a lot of people didn't know what the "1918" chant was actually referring to. I don't think that was a misconception, I just think thats a Yankee Nation boasting thing, since 1919 its been 26 to 1 I'll grant you the majority of people who use the 26 to 1 argument probably don't even realize that the first Yankee championship came in 1923, but since 1923 comes after 1918 I guess they can still say it.

You know, considering Game 7 turned out to be such a blowout, I might be able to forgive them for that! But yeah, the facts are the facts

I agree. I saw the game on espn classic last year and that hit me, though I had read about it before. Reggie doesnt get any credit for that does he? Buckener gets too much hate, I mean it was a wild pitch that tied the game actually. Is that his fault too? I argue with people I work with about that all the time. s crappy as that buckner play was it was Stanley's fault more than anything. The hell with that, how about the fact that the Red Sox had the LEAD IN GAME 7! With what, 9-12 outs to go (Yeah I should know it by heart (Mets fan)but come on, I was 9 at the time) That really is the more amazing part when you think about it, the fact that Game 7 (in both 86 AND 75) get so overlooked in Red Sox and baseball lore Steve

Along the lines with the Fisk home run, the YES Network treats the Yankee wins in Games 3-5 of the 2001 WS (Jeter's "Mr November" HR, the Brosius and Tino HRS back to back nights off of Kim, ect) as the top historic moments in Yankee history Although I can sort of see it considering how few moments we really HAVE, Robin Ventura's "Grand Slam Single" gets overhyped by the Mets I have a feeling Aaron Boone's HR is going to get very overrated as time goes on since the Yanks failed to win the World Series (Not too many people cite Chris Chambliss' walkoff in the 76 ALCS as a top 5 classic all-time moment because the Yanks lost the World Series), though maybe not since the Sox would win the World Series the next year

My column is now on the main page, link is in my sig, please send me feedback! Steve

Oh the irony! I'll just leave it at that, if you need to know the reference, just go to any site dealing with 80's political history and/or Regan sites

Hunter Hearst Helsmely American Blue Blood to Degenerate who doesn't give a damn (and name change to Triple H and wardrobe change) to Degenerate who doesn't give a damn who is a merry prankster to Power hungry Anrgy Guy who is a so called "Master Manipulater" Rocky Miavia Happy Blue Chipper with Samoan Heritage to pretty much a clone of the modern American Pro (and major college sports) cocky, spoiled, third person speaking athlete Scott Levy Different character but still I think there were acknowledgements that they were the same guy, Scotty Flamingo to Raven

Compliments the other one Just strange final apperances by performers and characters other than simply winning/losing a match never to be seen again -Patriot WWF Last seen getting coffee dumped on by Rick Rude prior to walking down the ramp for a match with HBK -Arn Anderson WWF This is strictly the AA character, not sure if he's ever been part of the security detail that holds back wrestlers since, but the last time we saw him he was being peeded on by Steve Austin (also the last time we saw Austin for a while as well) Thats all I got this morning