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Austin one year came out from I think the stands, so "technically" thats a run-in" His enterance music played, everyone in the ring waited for him (this was the 98 one if I'm not mistaking) while he came in from behind Steve

Isn't it said on the site that some of the images were also for people to say "Boy what were they thinking letting HIM get away?"

I don't why I started thinking about this, but I wonder how many former fans of Seinfeld actually don't like CYE, and what the demographic would be of that group. I.e. Compare the two shows to say, Paul McCartney and John Lennon I'm sure Beatle fans who were more likely to appreciate Paul's work would not nessecarilly like the grittyness and mind-altering state of Lennon's solo stuff (and alot of his Beatle songs as well) To tie it back, Seinfeld, because it was on a network, had to toe a line and toeing the line meant innuendo, double entredes, ect which gave the show a nice "wink wink, nudge, nudge" charm to it that would make it popular to those who may have watched to show to seem "hip" rather than to the hardcore Seinfeld fan who actually found it truely funny and would find stuff like CYE funny as well Essentially I'm wondering because when you get down to it, the "Larry David" character is a much more successfull (monetary wise) version of "George Constanza", if George was married, thin and lived in LA (I don't see a Jerry, Elaine or Kramer arctype though, not that there is anything wrong with that) Of course it could be that if you liked Seinfeld and don't like CYE maybe it means you didn't like George. I mean WHO could not like Jerry? Steve

More and more comedy is going down that route, when the American version of The Office comes out you will see a perfect example of it (if they don't fuck it up). Most of these kind of shows (of which CYE is perhaps the most fully realised American effort) go for the 'painful' kind of laughter, rude and dislikeable characters acting innapropriately and causing embarassment or conflict. Yeah, but comparing this thread, and other opinions on Larry David's post Seinfeld work I wonder how popular in the "mainstream audience" that show will actually be The reason this thread really started was more of a response towards a review I saw in IMDB.com for David's movie "Sour Grapes" where the review said that she was a Seinfeld fan but hated this movie and said that she guessed that she liked the "Jerry half" of Seinfeld, as if she knew what was the extent of Larry David's contribution to that show, other than giving the inspiration for "George Contanza" That kind of made me wonder about the majority of the mass audience's reason for liking Seinfeld a much more watered down version of a show like The Office or CYE What I mean is, did Seinfeld get popular because A) they wanted to be seen as "hip" towards people who geniunely liked the show and wanted to join in water cooler talk about it and B) they wanted to feel that they were "in" in jokes like "master of your domain" or "significant shrinkage" and probably wouldn't like the jokes if they said outright, "Lets see who can go the longest without masterbating" or "My penis shrank because of the cold water!" I rather have someone dis-like the show for various reasons, too each their own, but I wonder about those who loved Seinfeld but vehmeatly dislike CYE Steve

Come on, am I the only one that still thinks the title around Eddie Guerrero is the legit WWE title and Benoit's title is still HHH's ego-fuck Raw belt that was only given because Lesnar took the belt and ball to Smackdown I get the feeling Bischoff or someone is going to come down on this on Raw or Smackdown this week and next month its Benoit vs Eddie to unify the two belts and do the whole "Champion can appear on both shows" gimmick again Well maybe part of the feeling comes from hearing for a year and a half from the smarks that the Raw title was not a legit title, even though the WWE clearly held it in more esteem than the actual title Case in point, HHH and HIS belt would main event PPVs and the REAL WWE belt would either be co-main event but not the last match, or be in the mid card. And now that Benoit has the belt I have this feeling that the WWE will degrade the Benoit belt and put more emphasis on Eddie's title Steve

Now here is the sad part. I'm an NBA fan but I have to say: Read is The Rock's voice: Who in THE BLUEST OF HELLS IS DAVID BENOIT? Well yeah after someone tells me I'll be "Oh yeah thats right!" but now I'm all HUH? I think he's an NCAA player. I recall seeing the name recently, but can't remember what team he's on. It would make sense considering March Madness and all, but still. Anyone care to venture a worse name mixup? Sure this belongs in a totally different folder but I'm sure there are plenty of worse ones where the person is referred to as someone "less famous" or "more obscure" BTW the same field doesn't count. I.e. some of Lillian's and other wrestling commentator's goofs don't count (with the possible exception of Rodman calling Lex Luger "Luthor" but then Luthor IS easily more famous than Flexy Lexy) Steve

Now here is the sad part. I'm an NBA fan but I have to say: Read is The Rock's voice: Who in THE BLUEST OF HELLS IS DAVID BENOIT? Well yeah after someone tells me I'll be "Oh yeah thats right!" but now I'm all HUH?

Pretty much what I was going to say. Arguing about a belt being "handed" to someone is silly when technically all belts are "handed out" in wrestling. Saying "Triple H didn't win it in the ring" means nothing. So if they threw him in the ring with any wrestler on RAW and won that match for the title, then it would be legit? Actually I agree with that sentiment, but for the better part of the Raw World Heavyweight Title's existence it has been denounced by the smarks and the IWC as being a non-legit title, basically acting like it deserves as much respect as the aforementioned "Million Dollar Belt" and "King of the WWF Title" Whatever I guess. Being a Benoit-Jericho fan I do hope we FINALLY get them to slug it out on PPV for the title, been waiting for THAT match for a LONG time (even before their feud with the Two-Man Power Trip) Steve

Don't forget that fact either, granted that night HHH and Flair had a decent match for it HHH was HANDED the title. Its not like Bischoff had a special tourney or anything, it was AWARDED to HHH for no apparant (kayfabe) reason (well yeah that he was the last unified champion to carry around the Big Gold Belt if you WANT to call that a reason) no "screw job" loss to Lesnar to say "I WAS ROBBED WITHOUT A CHANCE TO GET THE JOB BACK!" No rime or reason, just HHH is the top heel with a Ric Flair obsession so give him the Big Gold Belt Actually it does make some kayfabe sense, but so did the "Million Dollar Belt" and Harley Race's "King of The WWF" title and both were defended for over the course of their existence (Race's long after he left the WWF) Steve

Well NOW it is, and yeah, as I mentioned the WWE ALWAYS made it important, but for the better part of its existence it has been riddiculed as the HHH Ego-Fuck Championship Belt Yeah thats because for all of its existence it has been held by HHH and Shawn Michaels but the point is still valid though Especially when the lineage of WWE Champions still goes through the belt Eddie Guerrero has and not the Raw belt

At least it wasn't Benoit Benjamin Or pronounced Ben-Wha as Ben-OIT

This is part two featuring the match between Hart and Austin: Its the Monday after the Hart/Michales matchup in my last story and so Nitro begins, but the announcing crew seems alittle shocked to see Eric Bischoff storm to the ring, mic in hand with a very p-oed look on his face. Bischoff enters the ring and addresses the crowd: BISCHOFF: Lets cut to the chase. Last night...Last night for the very first, and ONLY time. Myself and Vince McMahon were partners in a joint wrestling event. It was made CLEAR to me that it would be the ONLY time members to two different organizations would face each other in an event like that. Plus KNOWING how much BRET HART wanted to give those jerk-off WWF fans one last CLEAN match against Michael Hickenbottom (Author's note, WCW has often tweaked WWF/ECW by reffering to other orgainzation's personel by their real names)I RELUCTANTLY agreed to the event. Now. Last night. Steve Austin, who faced our Dean Malenko last night, came to both me and Vince and requested a shot at Bret Hart. Since both Vince and myself knew that Bret was under contract with WCW we told Austin that that was NO longer a possibility and we told that PEA-brain not to do ANYTHING irrational or brash. But since as Forrest Gump would say, Stupid is as Stupid does. Stone Cold, or should I say, Mushy Lukewarm Steve Austin showed up at the end of the match, challenged, and attacked Bret Hart. Now. There is a reason why Austin is NO LONGER with WCW, and that is it. The man is out of control. Austin. I have made sure that security will NOT LET YOU INTO ANY BUILDING A WCW EVENT IS BEING HELD!(With that, about twenty rows behind Bischoff in the crowd Stone Cold Steve Austin stands up and makes his way to the ring and the crowd roars with anticipation while Bischoff thinks the crowd is roaring for him) IN fact Steve Austin. If you come anywhere near me or any WCW employee I WILL personally knock that HOT air you have right out of your (bleep) And thats the bottom line! (by now Austin is in the ring, standing behind Bischoff with a huge grin on his face) BISCHOFF THREE SIX...(Austin taps him on the shoulder which spins Bischoff around to see Austin. Bischoff stammers and basically looks like a deer in head lights as Austin delivers a stunner) AUSTIN: I'VE BEEN WAITING THREE LONG YEARS TO DO THAT AND I JUST FEEL LIKE SAYING A (Crowd joins in) OHHHHHHHHHHHH HEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIRST LET ME GET THIS CRAPPY PIECE OF TRACH OUT OF THE RING(Kicks Bischoff out of the ring) Now! Can someone back there get that pink piece of trash Bret the (bleep)man Hart out here so I can open a whole keg of whoop-ass? (Bret Hart comes out onto the entranceway and has a sly look on his face and mic in hand) HART: Well. I see you found your way down here. Somehow you rattle-snaked your way past security, but like any snake in the ground, you can be stomped on very easily. AUSTIN: Whatever you say Bret. But the bottom line is this. I layed out a challenge for you. And since we are both here tonight, lets get this thing settled right here and right now. HART: I'd loved to Austin. But right now I have things to take care of here in WCW. AUSTIN: So thats it you coward. Running away. That seems what people do whenever Stone Cold Steve Austin wants them. HART: Well Austin. You may say I'm running, but I did not come prepared(rasies his hand, and with that Chris Benoit charges from the crowd, hits the ring and slaps the Crippler Crossface on Austin) NEVER MESS WITH CANADA YOU WORTHLESS TEXAS TRASH! (Hart charges the ring and slaps the Sharpshooter on Austin as Benoit still has the Crossface on tight. Finally Austin passes out so Hart and Benoit leave the ring and security drages Austin out of the arena) About an hour later on Raw, D-X(HHH, HBK, and Chyna) come out with belts in hand. HBK: Well. I may have lost the decison. But THE HEARTBREAK KID STILL HAS THE GOLD! Now I know all of you wanted me to whup that pink meanace all the way OUT of wrestling. But BRET HART! YOU HAVE NOT WON THE WAR! Now, Triple H, you have something to say? HHH: Yeah Shawn. I do. Last night I had Curt "Perfect" Hennig set up for the Pedigree, but that glory hog, washed up, bannana nosed has-been Richard Morgan Fleihr wanted victories against Hennig all to himself. So what did he do? He distracted me into letting down my guard, almost costing me the victory. If it wasn't for Chyna, Hennig would have beaten me. So, Flair. I know you have a rather LARGE nose, which is about your largest redeming feature. But since you cannot beat Curt Hennig, that doesn't mean you have to stick that large pecker...er, I mean nose into someone else's buisness. Other wise that person, like me for example would be glad to put you permantly OUT of the buisness. (Shawn takes back the mike and the interview concludes) Meanwhile an hour later on Nitro, Mean Gene brings Flair out: FLAIR: MEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAANNNNN WHOO! GEEEEEEEENEEEEEEEEEE AN HOUR AGO. An hour ago on another wrestling program. An immature punk named Jean-Paul Hevleque(I don't know the real spelling) came out and insulted me. Well Mister H. As a matter of fact. As a matter of priniple. I have curpious notes on each and every member of the Four Horsemen so in the event that they become EX-Horsemen. I know how to kick their asses. So. I saw what you were doing to Curt Hennig and you were NOT styling and profyling. I have known Curt Hennig for a LONG time. And I know you can not put him OUT with a joke move like your pedigree. So I was trying to tell you what to do to beat him. I actually HAD some respect for you Helmsley. But after last night and tonight you have proven your self not worthy to be mentioned with THE NATURE BOY! And. If you think you are gonna put The Nature Boy out of the buisness? Ask Dusty Rhodes, Harley Race, Terry Funk, Ricky Steamboat, Ronnie Garvin, Magnum T.A., Lex Luger, Sting, Hogan, and others how to do it, and they will ALL tell you. THERE...IS...NO...STOPING...THE...WHOOOO! NATURE BOY!!!!!!!!!!! (Struts and leaves the ring) A Few Weeks later RAW opens with a startling announcement: JIM ROSS: Uh folks. We are live in Hersey Pennsylvania but there have been no sign of Steve Austin, or members of D-X. Now DX's Triple H was supposed to be in a match tonight against D-Lo Brown and Austin was slated for interview time but now we can nont find any of them here and around the building. Vince McMahon has stated that we will get some subtitutes for Triple H and Austin probably later in the show. An half hour later on Nitro live in Philly Ric Flair has the legs of Alex Wright ready for a Figure Four. A Quick Whoo! and rasing of 4 fingers and Flair executes a perfect move. But as Wright starts to tap out Shawn Michales and Triple H dash from the crowd and into the ring where they attack Flair from behind with both of their title belts. Bret Hart then runs in to make the save on Flair leading to a staredown with Michales in the center of the ring, in the meantime Flair puts Helmsley in the round the ringpost figure four. Out of nowhere then comes Steve Austin(from the crowd) to give stunners to both Michales and Hart. Flair releases the move and watchs HHH collapse on the floor holding his knee cap and hits the ring and seems to say some words to Austin. The two have a short conversation and leave the ring seperatly. The following week both WCW and WWF announce that due to the actions of Austin and D-X that there will be a follow-up PPV with a double main event: Flair vs Helmsley in a no-DQ match and Hart vs. Austin. The undercard would also be made up of mixed federation matches. Live from San Antonio Texas its a special WWF/WCW/NWO PPV featuring the stars of both federations. Match One: Owen Hart/Chris Benoit vs Buff Bagwell/Brian Christopher The first match of the card is a mixed tag team match. Benoit and Hart come down first very focused to Hart's music while Buff and Brian come seperatly and mocking the other's poses. Benoit starts the match off with Bagwell and unloads on the nWo star. Buff tries to tag Christopher but to no avail as the punishment continues. A tag made to Owen brings in Christopher but that brings the same result. In an effort to stop the bleeding Christopher runs into his own corner and clothslines Bagwell into the match, and right into the waiting arms of Owen Hart's Sharpshooter, Christopher runs in to interfer but is met with a Benoit takeddown into the Crossface. Bagwell submits, end of match, but Owen quickly gets a mic: HART: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE! Chris Benoit and myself are both sick and tired of being sick and tired of our promotions barely promoting us. FROM NOW ON! WE ARE TAKING OVER! YOU HERE THAT MCMAHON, BISCHOFF, WHOEVER ELSE WANTS TO LISTEN? (he flips the mic to Benoit) BENOIT: Thats right folks. Chris Beniot and Owen Hart. As a tag team you can call us the Canadian Cripplers. And we are serving WCW, WWF, NWO, whatever, notice. But we are gonna grow. Just you tune in tommorrow on Nitro. And then we are taking names and kicking the asses of anyone who gets in our way(with that the two leave the ring) Match 2: The Giant vs The Nation (Farroq, Rock, Kamma, Henry and D-Lo) A gimmick Gauntlent match that has D-Lo first up with the Giant, unfourtuanly he gets a quick chokeslam and out. Next up Kamma who getsz some offense in but is quickly choked slamed. Mark Henry then jumps in and tries some offense but the Giant goes for the Moonsault for the pin. Farroq is next and stays in the match long enough to wear down the Giant but eventually gets choked slammed. In comes the Rock who acctually decides its better to stay away from the Giant and leaves the ring to be counted out but gets into a confrontation with Farroq over it. After the countout is finalized the Giant steps out of the ring and chokeslames both Farroq and the Rock on the entrance ramp. Match 3: Taka Michinisu vs Chris Jericho Its a unification bout for the Cruiserweight champs. Jericho gets a leg up by putting on a relentless assault on the young Japanese star. In fact Taka is pretty much taken out of the match and Jericho applies the Lion Tamer for the win Match 4: Shawn Michales vs Scott Hall Hall comes out with blue jeans and a sweatshirt: HALL: Aye Yo! Now the folks who put this show together thought that one of the fans most favorite series of matches of the 90's was Razor Ramon vs Shawn Michales(the crowd roars) Now. Shawn and myself 0agreed that it would be a good idea to give you all one more match between Shawn and...(removes sweatshirt and jeans to reveal full Razor Ramon garb) The Bad Guy! So Chico! Shawn, Ya better get you ass out here so I can kick it man. Out comes Shawn Michales to "Sexy Boy" but Shawn just can't help holding back some chuckles and smirks as he comes down. Once he gets in the ring he and Scott shake hands and wish the other a good fight. Its a pretty routine match between the two but the finish comes with Razor putting Shawn up for the Edge, but Shawn slithers down and reverses it and executes it on Razor and gets the pin. Shawn helps Razor up and the two walk out of the ring together. Match 5: Steiners vs LOD A classic match between two of the all time great tag teams. The winner are the Steiners. Match 6: Goldberg vs Ken Shamrock A match of shoot fighters. While Goldberg has a size advantage, Shammrock makes up in smarts and winds up making Goldberg tap out with the ankle lock submisson. Match 7 Ric Flair vs Hunter Hearst Hemsley Michael Buffer enters the ring for the first of two main events: When announcing HHH all of a subben Beethoven's "Ode To Joy" blares out as Hemsley comes out deck to the nines with a great robe with Chyna by his side. HHH does a little mock strut as he enters the ring. Flair comes out next but as he gets half way to the ring he grabs a mic and starts talking: FLAIR: WHOOOOOOOOOOO! Now Hemsley! You don't think for a second that I was gonna come out here and let you have a two to one advantage on the Nature Boy do you. 'Cause I have an anwser for that Amozonian you've got standing next to you. In fact. She can go toe to toe with many men in pro-wrestling today. In fact! She is ALL WOMAN! So! Without, any further ado! WHOOO! OH WOMAN OH WOMAN! WON'T CHA MARRY ME NOW! WHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Out comes Woman to stand by Flair's side and the enter the ring together. Chyna glares at Woman who promptly does a running forearm to knock Chyna down. Woman then picks Chyna up and powerbombs her out of the ring and starts a good old catfight outside the ring. HHH is stunned as he watches so he doesn't notice Flair chopping him in the back starting the match. HHH counters with some chops of his own and an eye rake. Flair tries to go back on the offensive with an Irish Whip across the ring. HHH ducks the running lariet and pushes Flair out of the ring. Using this to his advantage HHH starts pounding Flair's body parts into the ring post. That is untill Woman chokes HHH with her necklace. HHH spins around to strike Womn but notices that Flair has gotten a hold of Chyna as she was about to low blow him. Flair sees HHH so he plants a nice wet one on Chyna. To which HHH grabs Flair and hurls him back into the ring. HHH then tries for a figure four but Flair blocks it and gets back to his feet. The match continues on untill it gets back on the floor where HHH notices that Woman has the upper hand in her catfight against Chyna. He goes to help when Flair attempts and successes with a suicide dive and starts pounding HHH. Shawn Michales comes out to help HHH and Chyna but is met by Arn Anderson who gets a hold of Michales and DDTs him. Flair drags HHH back to the ring to apply the Figure Four. HHH can't counter and weakly taps out. MAIN EVENT: STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN vs BRET THE HITMAN HART The announcers notice that Flair and Anderson are still hanging around as SCSA and Bret Hart enter the ring During the match the two are seen convering with each other. The match starts off as a brawl as the two battle outside and inside the ring. Austin gets an early advantage leaving Hart no oppertunity to collect his thoughts. The relentless Rattlesnake eventually gets a Stunner on Hart, but Hart kicks out, which stuns Austin. Austin picks Hart up and throws him out of the ring so he can do some more damgae0. As Austin is on the floor Owen Hart sneaks down and opens a six pack of whoop ass on Austin, giving Bret some time to rest. AA sees Hart and is about to make his move when Ken Shammrock makes the save and bralws with Owen to the back. Austin gets back in the ring with Bret who gives Austin a clothsline and starts the sharpshooter, but the rattlesnake slithers out of Brets graps and takes him down. Austin sees his oppertunity and applies a sharpshooter of his own. Hart doesn't give up as Austin applies the pressure for a good 5 minutes. Austin then points directly at Ric Flair and turns the Sharpshooter into a Figure Four leglock. Hart is still not giving up so Austin releases the hold, grabs Bret into a DDT position and Austin poins at Anderson as he falls back. Austin then dleivers three more DDTs and tires the pin. Hart still kicks out at two. By now Austin is wondering what the hell does it take to beat this guy, so he goes with wha he knows best. He knees Hart in the gut and stuns him. Then he pulls Hart back up and does it again, and again, and a final fourth time. This time sure that Hart is out cold Austin goes for the pin and its one-two-three. Flair and Anderson jump in the ring to neet with Austin. Some words are exchanged and heads are nodded and Austin holds up four fingers with Flair and Anderson as the PPV ends.

Back in 1997 I saw this guy was taking fan submissions for Wrestling "Fan Fict" and that started my writing juices to start flowing so here is part one of two that I wrote for this site: http://members.tripod.com/Griff_4/medieval.html I had planned more but never got around to it. Just an interesting thing to put up, maybe I'll continue it from here on out Note, this was using all personalities during the winter of 1997 and I was just taking segemnts out of the various shows to serve my storylines, rather than go through the minute of entire programs: Bret "The HitMan" Hart VS. Shawn Michaels IV: The One To Settle The Score by Steven(sic) J. Rogers THE RETURN: Its RAW IS WAR a week after D-X descirated Bret Hart's last match with the midget Bret vs Shawn Michales. D-X is in the ring spewing off their usual monolouge when a familiar voice eminates from a mike in the crowd: VOICE: Well, well well Boy Toy. (D-X is stunned and starts looking around the arena untill Bret Hart stands up and everyone sees its him) Thought you had seen the last of me huh? Well I was on my way down South when I saw that crap you and your Degeneriates pulled last week. And you know what Shawn Michaels? We do have unfinished buisness. And I am here to issue you that challenge right here. And if you have any guts left, you and I will get this settled ONE ON ONE. SHAWN: BRET THE MARKED MAN HART! Are you sure you want your geriactic ass whupped by me again? I have beaten you for THIS(Holds up the heavyweight belt) twice, I just shoved you down South were you can play in that Jurrassic Park Federation. But if YOU WANT ONE MORE MATCH WITH THE HEARTBREAK KID? WELL. I'LL GIVE YOU ONE! (At this point HHH gets pissed and starts to tell Shawn off but Shawn just pushes him aside) BRET: Any time, any place.(throws mike down and heads out through the crowd.) SHAWN: Of course Bret. Any where, any time is all I need to prove ONCE AGAIN that THE HEART BREAK KID IS THE ICON! THE SHOWSTOPPER! THE MAAIN EVENT! (Shawn throws mic down and leaves, totally ignoring a shocked and upset HHH) JERRY LAWLER: WOW! I can't belive what just happened J R. But Bret Hart must be a real idiot if he thinks he can come back and challenge D-X like that! HA HA What an idiot! JR: Well King. This certiantly is a surprising, shocking development. We never thought we'd see Bret Hart again. He was finished. He left. Now he returns to make one last challenge to the heveyweight champion Shawn Michaels. (A week later on RAW Vince McMahon comes out to speak about the events the week before) VINCE: Last week. Right here on RAW. Bret "The Hitman" Hart came out, and issued a challenge to WWF champion Shawn Michaels. The two men then came to me, seperatly and expressed intrest in getting one more, final match. While yes, Bret Hart is under contract with another company at this time, he has been cleared to fight in this last fight. (crowd cheers) However, after talking with one of the heads of the aforementioned company, I have decided to make this a non-title match(crowd boos) But. What this match will be is a no disqualification, no interference steel cell match. Both Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels have assured me that their respective entourages will be barred from the ring area at the time of the match to be held THIS SUNDAY NIGHT! At a special joint Pay Per View with that other company to be held at Madison Square Garden in New York(The crowd erupts as McMahon leaves the ring). THE PPV: Its a special WWF/WCW event live from MSG. With Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler, Tony Schivone and Larry Zybsko at the mikes. Besides the main event the card featured 10 other bouts featuring stars from WWF vs stars from WCW/NWO: KEVIN NASH vs KANE: Several of the wrestlers were asked who they would like to fight in this card. Nash had this to say: "I'd just love to get that Kane dude and teach him that there can be ONLY ONE. Yup. I want to show the world that I AM the true BIG DADDY COOL! So expect some VIP, very intense pain cause its Diesel time and I am JUST TOO SSSSSSSSWWWWWEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, Vince, sorry for screwing up your story line HAHAHA!" In any event Nash acctually comes out to the match as Diesel(his old singlet) and starts right off the bat against Kane. The match is a complete squash as Nash puts Kane away with the Jacknife Powerbomb GIANT vs. KURRAGAN: Another squash as Giant proved he was much more versitale than the 7ft tree Kurragan. One chokeslam was all the big man needed. MENG vs. MANKIND: (Special submisson match) In a match that fitted the Tonga Death Grip vs Mandible Claw the loser had to submit to the winners finisher. After a good long 5 minutes of the two killing each other Mankind was the first to slip on his finsiher. It took a while but Meng's strong arms were able to pry Mankind's hand out of his mouth and then he slapped on the TDG to which Mankind had no answer to and submitted. CURT HENNIG vs. HUNTER HURST HEMSLEY: HHH Vs Mr. Perferct as the two slugged it out for a long time early in the match. HHH went to work on Hennig's knees and back, trying to injure the nWo star even more. Then Hennig quickly turned the tide but HHH reversed it and was about to apply the Pedigrie when Ric Flair came to ringside to shout something to HHH. Unfourtuanly HHH couldn't hear Flair and let Hennig go to get what Ric said. Hennig used it to his advantage by sneaking up and hitting HHH from the back and began to put on the Hennig-Plex. As he was hoisting it up though Chyna reached through the ropes for a low blow causing Henning to drop HHH right on top of him. The ref made the three count and HHH got the win. Then Hennig went out of the ring to attack Flair. When the two got at it HHH saw this and joined in, wheeling Flair around and cold cocking him, and did the same to Hennig and did crotch chops to the both of them as he and Chyna left. TAKA MICHINISOU vs. REY MISTERIO JR: A battle of cruserweight/liteweights. A match full of great high flying action and high risk manuevers with Rey getting the brunt of the hurting. Rey eventually came out victorious though and the two shook hands out of mutual respect afterwards. LEX LUGER vs. THE UNDERTAKER: A match of big men was pretty much dominated by UT early on but Luger made his usual comeback and won via the Torture Rack. DEAN MALENKO vs. STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN: One of the most brutal match ups of all time as these two fierce and focused competitiors put on a clinc of how a wrestling match should be. Malenko tried for the Texas Cloverleaf but some how Austin grabed hold of Malenko's ankle and got Dean off balance. Austin then got up and gave the wobbling Iceman a Stone Cold Stunner and passed out on top of him for the win. CHRIS BENOIT vs. CACTUS JACK: Hardcore legend vs hardcore star. Another brutal matchup with no clear advantage as the two used everything against each other. Eventually Benoit had the Crossface on Jack but some how Cactus reversed it and turned it into a sleeper of his own and got the win. SCOTT HALL vs. ROCKY MAIVIA: HALL: Aye Yo! Well, lets see. The last time I was here. Was prior to the forming of the N W O. So, I guess all of ya in the Big Apple know about my little surrvey, cause I think TNT and TBS are availible up here as we don't come through here. Anyway, the deal is, either you are with US, or you are not. And so. Is every one here to see, WCW? (mixed reaction) Okay, okay. Now. Is everybody here to see the "Superstars of the World Wrestling Federation?" (lots of loud cheers) Well, I expected nothing less. OR. Or is everybody here. In New York City here to see the (crowd chants along) N...W...O Its close, but I'd have to say. New York is defininatly nWo country. Aye yo. (puts a mike in the Rock's face and Rock is not pleased) You are (mimicks Rocks voice) The ROCK? Right. ROCK: Thats right and... HALL: (interrupts) Okay, whatever. All I know is that you and some friends of yours created an nwo ripoff, am I right? Its here that Rocky slaps Hall, knocking the mic out of his hands and starting the match. Hall gets most of the advantage as he is the crafty veteran in the matchup. The Rock regains the advantge for a short period but Hall is too experienced and eventually ends it with an Edge. (Prior to the next match the cameras showed D-X's locker room with HHH and Shawn talking to each other about the match:) HHH: Shawn. I can't...I just can't let you do this. Why? SHAWN: Why not. I've beaten the bastard twice before. I can do it again. HHH: We won't be there at ringside. Who knows what Hart has hiding under that ring. SHAWN: Hunter, Hunter, Hunter. Stop worrying. I've beaten him all by myself twice before. I know I can beat him. HHH: I know you can kick his a** but the fact is, he could kill you tonight. SHAWN: Or I could kill him. What the-(notices the camera guy) What are you doing? Get outta here. (the camera turns off and we head back to the ring) RIC FLAIR vs KEN SHAMMROCK: The last match before the main event turns out to be a supurb one as Flair keeps Shammrock off balance all night. Sort of rope-a-dope, not letting Shammrock get an inch of him lest he snaps and kills the Nature Boy. Eventually Ric is able to get Shammrock down and puts on the figure four. As Shammrock taps out HHH comes running down and attacks Flair as he has Shammrock in the hold. Flair releases Shammrock and chases HHH back to the dressing room. Its time for the Main Event of the evening The cell is being set and the crew run one last promo highliting the two stars. The electricity is in the air now as the ring annoncer starts the introductions First Shawn Michaels. But instead of the D-X song blaring "Sexy Boy" is playing but for once Michaels comes down unadorned(just his wreslting pants and boots) and looking cocky and focused as he enters the cage. Then out comes Bret Hart. Hart steps into the cage and right away Shawn attacks, even though Bret's shades and jacket are still on. Bret comes back by ramming Shawn's head into the steel cage. Shawn then trips Bret and starts to put on a Sharpshooter but Hart slithers out of it, and gets enough time to remove his jacket and shades. The match is looking more like a brawl then a match as the two take turns slamming the other into the steel cage. Bret then decides to slap on a sharpshooter but Shawn quickly reverses and gives Bret a superkick. Shawn then tries to go up on the ropes and excute a flying elbow but Bret moves out the way. The match see-sawed like this untill about 20 minutes when Shawn decided that he would just end it right there with some SCM. Bret was getting up on the other side of the ring when he saw Shawn "strike up the band". Bret swerved away and Shawn ended up sending his foot through the cage. Seeing the oppertunity Bret went right away to attacking the leg caught in the cage. As soon as Shawn finnaially got himself free after about five minutes Bret was right there to lock on the Sharpshooter. Shaen couldn't counter but he wasn't submitting. Hart applied more presure by moving pulling Shawn's legs more and more upwards but Shawn still wouldn't submit. Bret then released the hold and tried to pummel Shawn to death. Shawn somehow got out of Bret's clutches and knocked him down so he could apply the Sharpshooter on Bret. Same results only Bret was in their for at least ten minutes and not submitting. After Shawn broke the hold Bret rolled him into a smallpackage and tried a pin fall but was unsuccessfull. So Bret then slapped the Sharpshooter back on Shawn for a good long 5-10 minutes untill Shawn just couldn't respond and passed out. Bret Hart was victourus. As Shawn Michaels had to be strectured out Bret, very hurting and exaushted took a house mike and started talking: BRET: Whew. What a match. I didn't think the Boy Toy had it in him. Anyway. I'd just wanted to take this oppertunity to thank all the WWF fans for their support of me over the years. Even you American hyenas. I'd just thought I owed you all one great match before I go down to WC... AUSTIN: NOW HOLD ON ONE DAMN MINUTE SON! (Steve Austin has just appeared at the top of the enterance ramp and makes his way to the ring) YOU ARE SAYING THAT THIS IS YOUR LAST MATCH ASSOICIATED WITH THE WWF? HART: Yeah. Thats right. AUSTIN: WELL IT FIGURES THAT A YELLOW, OR SHOULD I SAY PINK BASTARD LIKE YOU WOULD SKIP OUT OF TOWN WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A SECOND THOUGHT TO SOME UNSETTLED BUISNESS. HART: I HAVE TO MOVE ON AUSTIN. AND I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT KIND OF CHALLENGE YOU WANT. MY CARREAR IN WWF IS OVER! I'M OFFICIALLY WCW NOW AUSITN: (Austin is now in the ring)SO THATS YOUR WEAK ASSED BOTTOM LINE HUH? YOU COME BACK AND CARRY SHAWN MICHAELS, SOMEONE I CAN LOAD A WHOLE 40 ONCE OF WHUPASS ON IN UNDER 15 MINUTES, FOR ABOUT AN HOUR. AND NOW YOU THINK YOU CAN SLITTHER DOWN SOUTH WITH ALL THOSE GERRIACTIC DINOSAURS? WELL THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU STILL HAVE ONE MORE CHALLENGE AND THATS FROM ME. AND THATS THE DAMNEST BOTTOM LINE I EVER BOTTOM LINED HART: (Shakes his head) AUSTIN, I'D LOVE TO FINISH THE SCORE BUT I HAVE TO MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS. AUSTIN: OH, I GET IT NOW BRET. YOU MUST BE ALITTLE HARD OF HEARING, SO HEARS A LITTLE SIGN LANUGAUE FOR YA! (Holds up a double bird) AND IN CASE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT...(knee to Hart's gut and the Stone Cold Stunner) AUSTIN 3:16 BRET SAYS I WILL HAUNT AND STALK YOUR LITTLE PIECE OF TRASH ASS UNTILL WE HAVE A FIGHT. AND IF YOU THINK YOU OWE THESE FANS ONE MORE MATCH, WELL...(starts to talk to the fans) WHO HERE IN MSG WANTS ME TO WHUP BRET HARTS PINK AND BLACK ASS JUST GIVE ME A...(holds mike up as the crowd goes: OH HELL YEAH) OH HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Before leaving Austin gives another double bird to a still out cold Bret Hart as the PPV ends

One of his feet touched the floor, then he pulled himself up. I heard there was some kind of picture or something floating around that shows both his feet touching when they both went over. Plus Rock halfway admitted it in a promo when he said "so what if they did touch", or something along those lines. BTW, even though Rocky said "I DOESN'T MATTER..." wouldn't logic (Yes I know logic and WWF/WWE doesn't go hand-in-hand) shouldn't all WWE history and records record The Big Show as the winner? Reverse decisions DO happen in reality based (on the level, non-scripted) sports so why didn't they do that there?

he wrote the screeplay to gorillas in the mist I dont know anything about it...popular film? not commercially... critically yes... most call it a masterpiece, but it's a film that isnt know by a whole lot of people I see... But why is this such big news if the guy wasnt that famous? Was there some scandal or controversy or something attached to him or his death? Thats an understatement! GITM was a huge Animal-Rights film staring Sigourney Weaver as a famed animal activist (not a PETA person, an actual activist against fur-traders, ect. More along the lines of Greenpeace) who was murdered sometime late 70's-early 80's Huge film in its day, may have garned some nominations/awards as well Steve

Yeah the guy was a manipulative little worm, especially in matters concerning Teddy Ballgame, whom he saw as a gravy train. He cut off many of Ted's friends out of Ted's life, he tried to commercialze everything that Ted ever did, case in point, you know that great moment at the 99 All Star Game? Well Ted originally had a Boston cap, but JHW had a cap put onto his head promoting a website Also he would handcuff Ted to a table trying to get him to sign items, he screwed memorabillia dealers out of money for Williams signed items, ect And yeah, the reason he had Ted frozen was in the possibility that he could sell off Ted's DNA. Otherwise he'd be in Alcor right now because that was what he, "Ted" and Claudia (his sister) wrote on that hospital napkin Oh, this summer SI reported that JHW has been delinquent in payments to Alcor, that was back in August and I wouldn't know if he has paid off his debts I wonder what is the legal raminfications of that? If JHW isn't in Alcor would that mean that his "final wishes" were denined so does that mean that the case can be reopened? Bobbie Jo Farrell dropped it due to lack of funds to pay her legal fees, but obviosuly she still has a case

Correction, the "opinion" side of the media hates your Yankees. The broadcasters, pre/post game hosts, Sports Center anchors, local anchors are all Yankee lovers. Its the radio hosts, newpaper columnists, talking head "baseball" experts that are Anti-Yankee

Looks like Garth is staying true to his retirement! His Scarecrow album was his "Last album" his three concerts he did on CBS were is "Last concerts" Just being a dad to his three daughters though he went through a divorce not to long ago (he and his kids did a commerical not to long ago as well, not sure for what though) He is down in the Royals spring training, doing the same thing he did with the Padres and Mets a few years back (getting ballplayers and teams involved with one of his charities) Steve

College Basketball: Easy for the teams getting all the love: Duke and UNC. Mostly Duke. Also any big school that features a coach out of the "I Am Bigger Than The Institution" mold (Coach K, Roy Williams, ect) There is nothing the likes of Dick Vitale love to do more than to pump up any coach with a big squad and a big ego because "He does it the RIGHT way" Hate: Bobby Knight. Yeah for good reasons but still. Georgetown during the Thompson years MLB: The love goes generally to the Redsox/Cubs. And depending on the media the Yankees (Yankee hate comes from columnists, radio show hosts, ect, not the ones doing the actual game broadcasts/ESPN highlights) Braves got some love at the start of the run, now its "getting old" Also anytime a team "comes from nowhere" they get alot of love. Especially a "small market team" like the Twins or Royals Hate: Yankees by the opinion media. Probably the Brewers for obvious reasons. Teams with alot of non-media-friendly players get it as well (its with all sports) the Indians of the Albert Belle years is a good example NFL Radiers get some love. Pats get love. Usually teams that rip off "out of nowhere" starts get a ton of love, especially if they have a "can they go undefeated" run" When they are good the 49ners and Cowboys of course. Hate: Cowboys, 49ners, Redskins, Pats and Ravens

In "Come Together" John Lennon says "Shoot me" several times

Just imagine that Stone Cold had incorporated "What!" Back then... "WHAT!? I said son, I am so superior to your sorry ass that I shouldn't have to fce ya!" What? Thats right. What? I can open such a fast can of whup ass on your sorry kiester I don't wanna face ya. What? So I forfit! What? I said I forfit. Now take your sorry little ass back to the locker room. What? And someday you can tell your grandkids that you beat What? Stone Cold Steve Austin! What? I said someday you can tell your grandkids that you beat What? Stone Cold Steve Austin!"

Two classic NBC shows going out, that never gotten any love in this folder! And its getting near the end so lets discuss Best/Worst: Epsiode Regular character Reacuuring character One Shot Character Big time-Guest star Story Line ect...

I'm surprised no one has mentioned obviously the greatest single catch phrase in the history of film. In fact, Mike Myers should be inducted into every possible screenwriters hall of fame for this gem... NOT!

Another one that gets away with it, Animal House "Over? Did you say Over?..." Steve

Two from Jerry Maguire: "You Had Me At Hello" Note, country music star Kenny Chesney actually wrote a song based off of that scene with that line as the title and "SHOW ME THE MONEY!" Completely overshadowing what could have been an epic catch phrase from the same movie, "You complete me." Ironically it came up in an episode of Friends, a virtual repository of pop-culture references